Video: Bristol Palin says abstinence “not realistic”

posted at 9:30 am on February 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

I’m of two minds on this clip. Bristol Palin isn’t running for office, but she had to know that doing big-media interviews would mean that she had to have an answer for some political issues surrounding her teen pregnancy. After all, for what other reason would Greta Van Susteren invite her onto her show?

GRETA: I don’t want to pry too personally, but obviously contraception is an issue here. Is that something that you were lazy about or not interested in, or do you have a philosophical or religious opposition to it, or –

BRISTOL: No, I don’t want to get into detail about that. But I think abstinence is like … I don’t know how to put it, like … the main … Everyone should be abstinent, but it’s not realistic at all.

GRETA: Why?

BRISTOL: Because — I don’t want to get into detail about it.

GRETA: [crosstalk] Just big picture, not about you –

BRISTOL: Because it’s more and more accepted.

Of course, acceptance is why many people want abstinence taught.  The entire idea is to push back against the acceptance of sexual activity among those who are ill-equipped to handle the emotional, health, and financial consequences of sexual activity.  That doesn’t mean that we don’t teach about contraception as well — it always amazes me when people consider the two mutually exclusive — but that explaining that only abstinence gives one complete protection against pregnancy and STDs in ways that condoms do not, as well as the risks of exploitation.

I had to laugh at Greta’s question about religious objections towards contraception keeping Bristol from using them to prevent pregnancy.  I haven’t yet known of a religion that objects to contraceptives but not to extramarital sex.  Catholics most famously object to contraception, and years ago my pastor discussed this with my young adult group.  He pointed out that having made the decision to sin with extramarital sex, using a condom would really be the least of our worries.

In case you need a lift after this clip, though, check out this video from Jim at Gateway Pundit.  Guess what Bristol thinks of bloggers obsessed with the pregnancies of herself and her mother? Gold:

Update: I second what Ace says — Bristol has a lot of courage in discussing this topic on national television. Also, please recall what I wrote when this story broke at the Republican convention. She and her family did the right thing when it counted, and we should remember that when watching this.

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Excuses, excuses.
“I couldn’t help it, & neither can anyone else!”

jgapinoy on February 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Also not realistic these days for most people….courage. But hey, at least she’s honest it seems. I give her credit for that.

OwlorNothing on February 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Damn, those Palins are a horny bunch.

marklmail on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Some refreshing honesty finally coming from that family.

dcwvu on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Way to embarrass Mommy, kid.

jgapinoy on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

The best line of the interview was when Bristol said that telling her parents about her pregnancy was worse than labor.

CarolynM on February 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM

GRETA: Why?

People get horny? Well, maybe not when Greta’s around…

DarkCurrent on February 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Cheating on your taxes is more and more accepted as well, aparently. What’s next to gain acceptance, and lose stigma?

Vashta.Nerada on February 17, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Fancy that….hormones and emotions all riding wild….whodathunkit?

But she’s right….there was some real evil on display in the treatment of herself and her mother.

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:36 AM

As someone who DID wait until my wedding night – at the age of 31 – yes, it IS realistic. Neither I nor my wife would have it any other way. I thank God we didn’t bring somebody else’s baggage into our marriage.

Beo on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM

He pointed out that having made the decision to sin with extramarital sex, using a condom would really be the least of our worries.

Hence the reason why so many priests and religious leaders are ridiculed.
Not using a condom, creates kids, it creates fatherless children…the priest is worried about “heaven”, when he or no one except One makes that decision. What we have to worry about is taking care of the children now, not the esoteric of whether the sin committed has some other affect.
No wonder the Catholics are so messed up in their leadership…

right2bright on February 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I was in her position 17 years ago. I also had family to help out. Yea it does just happen. I know what she is going through. It’s hard being a teenage mother. Like Bristol the dad stayed around and we got married. I didn’t go on welfare. I went out and got a job and the dad had 2. We paid for our son and a wedding. I am still married to dad. It takes hard work but it is possible. I am with Bristol wait 10 years. I wish I had waited, but do I regret it no. It’s hard to regret a baby. My family and his family wanted an abortion. We will never tell our son that his family didn’t want him, because they now know the mistake that would of been.

Brat4life on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

She is right, it is more accepted, and if you don’t believe that, you either live in a bubble, or you went to school in a horse & buggy. Not saying it is right, but that is the truth of the matter.

MDWNJ on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Beo

Congratulations. Just because it worked for you, doesn’t mean it can, or should, work for everyone else. It’s that kind of implicit self-righteousness that rubs some people the wrong way.

Grow Fins on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I would like to see republicans keep their values, but find ways besides religion to defend them and I think this is a good issue for that. I was 16 the first time I had sex. I want my daughters to wait until they are married. Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably. I would love to have waited, but hormones had me itching to get some. We need to teach our kids values and prepare them to make good decisions. It’s not about whether they should have sex, it’s about teaching them to consider all options and consequences of their actions.

nazarioj001 on February 17, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Realistically, between dodging polar bears and gutting tomorrow’s meal, what else are you going to do in Alaska?

ignorantapathy on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Bristol Palin says abstinence “not realistic”

I can think of a thirteen year old in Briton that agrees with her……..

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

As someone who DID wait until my wedding night – at the age of 31 – yes, it IS realistic.

No. Your example demonstrates that it is *possible* not that it is realistic. Here’s what I don’t understand about this stuff. If your religious beliefs tell you that abstinence is godly, how does learning about condoms undo those religious beliefs? If your moral convictions are weak enough to be undone by education about condoms aren’t you likely to become a Bristol Palin and get pregnant anyway? As an issue of public school policy I can’t see one argument for abstinence only education.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Is anyone suprised that a teen would say that abstinence is not realistic at all ? This is a generation of kids who’ve been indoctrinated with smut and excessive freedom so of course they think it is more acceptable.

katiejane on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

I thought she did a fine job. She seems very sincere and likeable.

MaxMBJ on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

It’s a good volley into mainstream America. Nice job Bristol.

GP pulled the better clip tho’.

Jason Coleman on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Evil is an accurate way to describe Andrew Sullivan for sure

jp on February 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

She isn’t saying anything that most kids don’t already think nowadays. Heck, I’m not so old that I don’t think that to some extent. Ed is right, the two types of schoolin’ aren’t mututally exclusive. I don’t think any better or worse of her after this, she just says what she believes and it isn’t far off the mainstream. Abstinence would be ideal, and should be a part of any teachings, but obviously it is a hard choice and commitment to make to make when you are younger and are “indestructable.” I hope for the best with my kids and will stress the 100% safe method, but won’t be too surprised if they don’t abstain until marriage. Disappointed certainly, but not surprised.

XWing5 on February 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

With Ogabe’s reversion to unlimited welfare and “more kids equals more money”, the world abstinence will remove itself from the American lexicon and head off to the wilderness to die.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

This situation is as old as mankind. It is always best to use self-restraint, but if you fail then you must accept and deal with the consequences. This young woman is lucky to have such a supportive family unit.

joedoe on February 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

I’m not for scarlet letters or stonings, but I’m with Ed that we need to make abstinence the accepted norm. Call me old fashioned, but why are Girls Gone Wild tapes and racy internet videos, and My Space pictures considered main stream and acceptable?

No wonder teen pregnancy rates are going up. Kids must think “everyone’s doing it”, and they’re right.

Laura in Maryland on February 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

right2bright on February 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM

You missed the point. Having decided to engage in extramarital sex, there’s no reason NOT to wear a condom. The sin is in the former, not the latter.

Ed Morrissey on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Not to get into a whole debate about abstinance and such…depending on which organization you talk to, the failure rate among condoms can be anywhere from 2% to 36%.

Just sayin’

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Is anyone suprised that a teen would say that abstinence is not realistic at all ?

a teen that got pregnant and just had a baby at that

jp on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

was 16 the first time I had sex. I want my daughters to wait until they are married. Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably. I would love to have waited, but hormones had me itching to get some

You could do all kinds of things with your daughters to make their first sexual experiences more succesful than yours without putting the albatross of waiting till marriage on them. Encourage them to only have sex with someone who loves and demonstrates respect for them. Encourage them to engage in physical intimacy that’s short of intercourse. Encourage them to express their desires with their partners and teach them how to create boundaries with boyfriends. Don’t stigmatize or make it tabboo, that only leads to Bristol Palins.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Realistically, between dodging polar bears and gutting tomorrow’s meal, what else are you going to do in Alaska?

ignorantapathy on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

If upinik’s (spellcheck) in the house your about to get a mouthfull……

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

She is correct about it being more accepted and I admire her strength to discuss this subject on national tv. It’s all in how you handle society’s influences.

sherry on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Well, it’s Not realistic.
But having that child is reality.
And she’s doing the right thing.

bridgetown on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Like . . . like . . . whatever . . . ‘cuz it’s more accepted now. Uh-huh.

Not only does she not believe in abstinence, but she doesn’t believe in marriage either, apparently, since it’s been almost a year since she learned she was pregnant and almost two months since she had the kid. And yet, she’s still a baby mama. Hilarious that people call her mother–who enabled this baby mamahood and continues to put a roof over it–the “conservative of the year.” Simply hilarious. Not only has America become socialist under Obama, but conservatives have abandoned any sense of family values. In this one family–the new template for America’s conservative movement–you have a Mr. Mom, teenage pregnancy, single motherhood, and opposition to abstinence teaching. Awesome.

Sarah Palin . . . the “conservative” mama of baby mamahood. But I guess I dare not say such a thing about the Sarahmessiah.

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

You missed the point. Having decided to engage in extramarital sex, there’s no reason NOT to wear a condom. The sin is in the former, not the latter.

Ed Morrissey on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Holy crap I agree with

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

As an issue of public school policy, should we be leaving it to public school teachers to be instructing our children about sex?

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!

Sarah tells P BO to VETO that Spendulus Bill and attacks the Fairness Doctrine and this is what you report on…this is just as bad as the Lame Stream Media…

….

alexraye on February 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Obama would have experienced a teen pregnancy, if he wasn’t dating Frank Marshal Davis.

marklmail on February 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Some refreshing honesty finally coming from that family.

dcwvu on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

They could teach the media a thing or two about the truth huh?

But I guess I dare not say such a thing about the Sarahmessiah.

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Erm, you just did Deb.

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Geeezzzz….

Face it folks… whether God made us this way, or evolution did, we are BUILT to become sexualy active at a young age. We are Geneticly programed, and chemicly engineered, to desire to procreate. There are tons of things built into our body having to do with Sex, and desire.

Abstinence only throws all that REALITY about our bodies out… and instead of teaching responsibility working WITH Nature, it says to IGNORE what Nature, or God, built into us.

Now you expect the same young people, who are still LEARNING and have limited experience, to go against that physical programing?

Recipie for failure.

Romeo13 on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Didn’t you know? It’s only OK to call the black married wives of U.S. senators “Baby mama” not sweet, white, pure teenage republicans. LOL We also certainly will not be engaging in any “welfare queen” rhetoric about Bristol Palin, she’s a “champion of life.” Ah conservative hypocrasy.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

It would be easier to pry a pizza from Michael Moore’s hands than it would be to try to keep teenagers from having sex.

perroviejo on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Guess what Bristol thinks of bloggers obsessed with the pregnancies of herself and her mother? Gold:

It was gold, and very true. She seemed like a regular teenager to me, though a teen who’s been forced to grow up a bit quicker than her peers. She seems to be doing a fine job of being a responsible, young mom, she’s lucky she’s got such close family. I wouldn’t have expected anything less.

4shoes on February 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Is anyone suprised that a teen would say that abstinence is not realistic at all ? This is a generation of kids who’ve been indoctrinated with smut and excessive freedom so of course they think it is more acceptable.

katiejane on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Don’t the parents have any responsibility or get any blame here? Is it all now “society’s” fault? That’s what liberals usually use as their excuse. You know, the village thing. I guess I’m not allowed to point out that someone’s mom was busy working and that she was raised by a Mr. Mom at the time she got pregnant. After all, then I’d be shouted down by the new conservative scream about “sexism.”

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Sex is a wonderful thing, and we shouldn’t shy away from raising our kids to fully understand the joys and immense responsibilities of it. This is perhaps the most sacred of parental duties – not one we should subcontract to lowest-common-denominator gubmint school monkeys.

Problem is, we haven’t been doing that. We’ve pornified our society. We’ve exploited sex as social leverage. We have dolls that look like whores. We dress girls like Lolita.

What could possibly go wrong?

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

I’m in my 50′s and my generation thought they were on the front lines of the sexual revolution. Convincing me that sexual awareness is new to this generation will be a difficult sell.

joedoe on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Everyone should be abstinent, but it’s not realistic at all.

Sshe is saying that everyone being abstinent isn’t realistic. Which is pretty darned true.

MayBee on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

She seemed like a regular teenager to me, though a teen who’s been forced to grow up a bit quicker than her peers.

Really because she seems much less developed than the majority of the college freshman I deal with in my courses, especially in terms of her ability to articulate and her overuse of the word “awesome.” If she continues to do media interviews someone should coach her on not sounding like she’s chatting on facebook, the world is watching you when you go on a major news network.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

our culture and societal pressures are likely as much of a sin as the pre-martial sex is. In the old days, people got married young for the most part, takes the pre-martial sin out of the equation.

Today, we are told we must go to college, take on debt and not enter working world until 22 or 23….for many this means not getting married until late 20′s. Basically your asking, men especially, to go through your sexual peak without having sex, thats why its not realistic, depending on the person.

This also leads to a delay and reduction in number, of having children(considered a burden by many on the left)….which is why Birth Rates in Western Secular Nations are falling so dramatically. “Go Forth and Multiply”…

anyway, point is sin is alot more complex and all encompassing than most realize.

jp on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Encourage them to only have sex with someone who loves and demonstrates respect for them. Encourage them to engage in physical intimacy that’s short of intercourse. Encourage them to express their desires with their partners and teach them how to create boundaries with boyfriends. Don’t stigmatize or make it tabboo, that only leads to Bristol Palins.

Come on. I “fell in love” with girls on a weekly basis and would tell them whatever they wanted to hear to get access to their parts.

And while parents can be a guiding hand, if I was any example, I would have run screaming from the house had my parents attempted to define the rules of making-out, groping, etc.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

You can’t change human nature.

getalife on February 17, 2009 at 9:51 AM

After all, then I’d be shouted down by the new conservative scream about “sexism.”

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Not from this corner :)

I would question your reasoning though….

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

I really like you. You play fullback better than anyone who’s worn a Detroit Lions uniform the last few years (better than a few other teams too, actually). However, sometimes you need to lay off the caffiene.

perroviejo on February 17, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Excuses, excuses.
“I couldn’t help it, & neither can anyone else!”

jgapinoy on February 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Hmm – I always seem to agree with you
“Excuses” is the norm and responsibility has become a thing of the past
I am glad however that she kept the beautiful baby rather than disposing “the mistake” as the the Prez would say

defendfaithandfamily on February 17, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Fox News is free to have on anyone they like. They are in the business to make money and GVS obviously believed that people would love to hear from Bristol Palin about whatever. She has a show on every weekday and I am sure she needs to find something to fill that time. God bless the free market.

However, I will never understand why any thinking person would be interested to know what a young woman as immature and inexperienced as BP thinks about anything. This was an interview for E! TV or Entertainment tonight.

. . . as we continue to barrel our way towards the Idiocracy.

King of the Britons on February 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM

No. Your example demonstrates that it is *possible* not that it is realistic. Here’s what I don’t understand about this stuff. If your religious beliefs tell you that abstinence is godly, how does learning about condoms undo those religious beliefs? If your moral convictions are weak enough to be undone by education about condoms aren’t you likely to become a Bristol Palin and get pregnant anyway? As an issue of public school policy I can’t see one argument for abstinence only education.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

So abstinance-only education isn’t realistic?

Explain to me how abstinance + contraception education is. “Don’t have sex, but if you do…” Are those teaching this supposed to wink knowingly as they deliver the first part of the sentence?

Abstinance is about much more than birth control. Know how to avoid STDs completely? Keep sex within marriage only. Know how to avoid the emotional scarring that so many teenagers carry through life from bad sexual experiences? The same way.

Just because something is hard to do (and it is), it doesn’t mean it’s not realistic.

Beo on February 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

She must have went to the Obama school of , ohhh’ss, and ummmm’s.

MDWNJ on February 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM

“As someone who DID wait until my wedding night – at the age of 31 – yes, it IS realistic. Neither I nor my wife would have it any other way. I thank God we didn’t bring somebody else’s baggage into our marriage”

Now what was that remark about casting the first stone?????

An open and honest reflection by a young lady with an independent frame of mind…of course she wishes things had been different but they aren’t and so you play the hand you have been dealt the best way you can. I think I would be proud to have a daughter like that…and btw…he is a baby, not “baggage”….

callingallcomets on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

And yet, she’s still a baby mama. Hilarious that people call her mother–who enabled this baby mamahood and continues to put a roof over it–the “conservative of the year.” Simply hilarious.

What are you saying, Debbie? What should Sarah have done, kicked her teenage daughter out on the street? Bought her a house? What?

4shoes on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

DTMH, you are so full of sh*t. You don’t hear that talk here. As a matter of fact it’s an insult to even insinuate it. Most posts that hint of a racist attitude are erased and that person banned. Talk about hypocrites. You weasels on the left thrive on immoral behavior in society until it suits your argument to say otherwise.

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

From the mouths of babes.

…in more ways than one. :)

rollthedice on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

No. Your example demonstrates that it is *possible* not that it is realistic.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Well then it’s *possible* to stop smoking but not very realistic so we should just let people smoke wherever then.

Skywise on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM

And while parents can be a guiding hand, if I was any example, I would have run screaming from the house had my parents attempted to define the rules of making-out, groping, etc.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Well of course you’d run screaming from the house, but if they pressed it into your head like anything else, then you’d remember it and thank them later for it. I think you’re a lot less likely to have intercourse if your parents are saying “do what you need to…except for that and only with a longterm boyfriend/girlfriend.” That’s actually a reasonable boundary that kids can work within and still have some fun.

As for the fleetings of love, part of the conversation is the difference between “infatuation/lust” and “love/respect.” My parents and I had a series of talks about things that people who respect you do, vs things that people who just want to get it on with you do. My dad said it in one simple phrase “learn to recognize game.”

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Sarah Palin tells Greta that Obama should veto the Stimulus Package and tell Congress to “get it right,” defends the Fairness Doctrine and makes a pitch for energy conservation and this is the best you can come up with? You’re losing it Ed.

bw222 on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Ahh yes, the “you can’t win so why try” mentality. Hey, everybody’s doing it, so it’s not your fault you didn’t act responsibly.

clearbluesky on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM

BRISTOL: No, I don’t want to get into detail about that.

and you miss the whole point of this statement. This statement shows that she doesn’t think that the GOVERNMENT should be getting into detail about that in the public sector either. Sex education should be left up to the FAMILY, not the government.

I also think that religious issues with contraception is ridiculous. I don’t think there is anything wrong with contraception. I think the Catholic Church needs to rethink it’s stance concerning contraception as there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that using contraception is a sin.

Once a baby is created, I agree with the Catholic Church on abortion (likely moreso than most Catholics). . . but the church’s crusade against contraception is overkill.

ThackerAgency on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Abstinence worked for me and my bride. I am glad the neither of us have “history” and baggage to be compared against.

Staying pure in this day and age was a challenge. No one knows how difficult it is except those who resist temptation all the way through to victory. I am so very glad that we did!

We married when I was 32. We will encourage our 3 children to practice abstinence and purity until marriage. It is not impossible, and is worth it many times over in the long run.

One of the best things you can do for your children is to encourage them to wait until they are married. The very best thing you can do for them is to give them a godly heritage and an example of trusting in Jesus, even when it comes to your future spouse.

ksm on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM

We expect fully though out answers from this teenage girl? If she were like most of the girls I dated at that age she would have flipped Greta the bird and thrown a can of Pabst Blue Ribbon at her.

When Bristol announces that she’s running for some office let the cameras roll. Until then, let her be a mom. That’s gonna be hard enough.

pugwriter on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Don’t stigmatize or make it tabboo, that only leads to Bristol Palins.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

How do you know anything about Bristol Palin? Just curious. You assume that the whole idea was made “tabboo” to her, but that is just an assumption. Unless I missed something? Seems like you are just repeating HuffPo talking points.

By the way, condoms break. Another assumption is that Bristol/Levi did not use protection. Levi might just be strong like an ox, if you get my point.

BPD on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I was referring to Fox News calling Michelle Obama a “baby mama” and the non-outrage on this and other conservative sites. Indeed if you go back to that thread in the vault you’ll notice a large number of posters defending that. Yet call Bristol Palin a baby momma. As for “welfare queens” lol check out the “welfare reform” thread, there are borderline klan comments there about “fast food workers.” Dude, know your own people.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM

I can see both sides of this…and please, give me a chance to duck before anyone lobs any “verbal bombs” at me.

On one hand, most conservatives believe that engaging in this behavior at such a young age (with a baby as the result) has several pit-falls. We know the pit-falls exist, simply because this scenario has played out time and time again throughout the centuries.

That being said, I think sometimes some of us forget that 100 years ago getting married and having children at Bristol’s age was acceptable. In fact, at her age, if you weren’t already married, you were considered a “old maid”.

Now, having the child out of wedlock brings another dynamic to this scenario, in relation to how conservatives handle this with a double-edged sword. On one edge of the sword, you have conservatives (and some not-so-conservatives) telling the girl (any girl) not to consider abortion, ever, for any reason. Then on the other edge of that same sword, you have conservatives (and some not-so-conservatives) jumping down a woman’s throat because she got pregnant, even though she’s thought enough of the life inside her and has decided to have the child.

In my mind….Yeah, it’s obvious she knows what she did wasn’t the best for her and her fiance’, right now. She said that in the interview. But, if given the choice between a baby born out of wedlock, vs an aborted baby….I’m sorry, but I’m always going to stand on the side of life.

We all learn lessons.
We all make mistakes.
We all can strive to be better persons, and sometimes it takes those lessons and mistakes to actually whip us into shape.

My .02 cents….
(*ducking….)

Talismen on February 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Bristol Palin has a tremendous amount of courage to go on Greta’s show like this.

Particularly after the treatment her mother received from the mainstream media and liberal hate sites like HuffPo and Daily Kos, she has to know that some of the more zealous Palin haters will will be publishing more repulsive venom.

jjrakman on February 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

I guess I’m not allowed to point out that someone’s mom was busy working and that she was raised by a Mr. Mom at the time she got pregnant. After all, then I’d be shouted down by the new conservative scream about “sexism.”

I would be one of those shouting at you. I play the role of Mr. Mom myself while running a business and my wife is often anguished at the thought of having to travel quite often for her career. I think I’m doing a pretty good job, but I don’t treat my little daughter like a wilting flower, unable to defend herself.

If being a “New Conservative” means Dad has to take a larger hand in raising a daughter, then so be it; some of us don’t have the luxury of being good “old” conservatives.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

It’s great that she didn’t abort the baby, but responsibility doesn’t end there. That baby needs a stable home with a married mom and dad. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen.

JA on February 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

BPD on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM

No one has ever said condoms are 100%….but they are pretty damn reliable if used correctly. And if you combine them with birth control pills your chance of unwanted pregnancy is very very low.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Grow Fins on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

It obviously bothered you.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

You sound you’d also offer to watch to make sure she’s doing it right. Go grow a new conscience; the old one’s dead.

AubieJon on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Good for her, she seems to be a very nice and well balanced child and will be a great mother. She has a good example to follow in her mother. I am surprised the girl can even mutter a word after all of the bashing she has taken from the media over the past year. She doesn’t hold a grudge, but I am sure the media would love to push her around some more, there is no honor among the hateful in the media.

workingforpigs on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM

It’s something that’s been discussed before, but she doesn’t mention it.

Two things are happening:

1. Kids are refusing to grow up for longer periods of time. People approaching and even over 30 are still living with and off their parents, and spend their days goofing around rather than working and making something of themselves…and their stupid parents do little more than nag to solve the problem.

2. Inversely, younger and younger people are tackling adult issues. The Boss gets regularly upset about Bratz dolls and 12-year-olds dressing like sluts, but part of the problem is that through our culture, they’re not only seeing sex themselves, but their peers are thinking it’s necessary to start engaging in it, to establish their status.

It’s a double form of degeneration.

MadisonConservative on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Dude, know your own people.

Mirror, mirror on the wall.

Good Lt on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Really because she seems much less developed than the majority of the college freshman I deal with in my courses, especially in terms of her ability to articulate and her overuse of the word “awesome.” If she continues to do media interviews someone should coach her on not sounding like she’s chatting on facebook, the world is watching you when you go on a major news network.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

You can tell that by one interview huh? And I’m sure you’d have done soooo much better in front of a camera at the age of 18? And if you think so, well good for you then.

4shoes on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Quite a theoretical argument on your part this morning huh?

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

LOL We also certainly will not be engaging in any “welfare queen” rhetoric about Bristol Palin, she’s a “champion of life.” Ah conservative hypocrasy.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Is Bristol Palin on welfare?

DarkCurrent on February 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Congratulations. Just because it worked for you, doesn’t mean it can, or should, work for everyone else. It’s that kind of implicit self-righteousness that rubs some people the wrong way.

Grow Fins on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

He was just telling his story so mind your baggage GF.

MechEng5by5 on February 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Sarah Palin tells Greta that Obama should veto the Stimulus Package and tell Congress to “get it right,” defends the Fairness Doctrine and makes a pitch for energy conservation and this is the best you can come up with? You’re losing it Ed.

bw222 on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Ya, Ed, can we please expose the sex lives of other politicians’ children in minute, intimate “I was actually hiding under the bed with a tape recorder the whole time” detail?

How about Chelsy Clinton?…ah never mind.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Debbie Schlussel on February 17, 2009 at 9:45 A

Sarah’s political enemies are making sure Levi doesn’t get any job. Both Bristol and Levi want to get married which they’ll do after their education and jobs are sorted out. So, you’ll use the 17-year old girl’s mistakes to beat upon her mother whom you despise irrationally for some reason. It’s despicable.

promachus on February 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

“Nature, Mr. Alnut is what we were put here to overcome.”

Where does it stop. “I feel like banging someone elses wife, therefore, I’m really meant to be an adulterer. I feel like doing a J, therefore pot should be legalized. I’m attracted to another person of the same sex, therefore, I must be gay. how bout…I feel like takin a crap in my pants, therefore, a clean ass is just not realistic. And by God anyone who doesn’t accept me the way I am is just too damn religious”

lm10001 on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Abstinence works for some, not for most. God gave us a libido, and try as one might, the spirit is often willing but the flesh is weak. The Lord did say be fruitful and multiply…….It’s in our genes or jeans……..

I saw a poll of senior citizens that were virginal on their wedding night. 90% were not..So grandma and grandpa were saying one thing and doing another themselves.

Republicans would do themselves a favor by staying out of people’s bedrooms and doctor’s offices. Abstinence only goes so far and if a pregnancy happens, abortions are going to happen whether they are legal or not. Most people that aren’t hard right social conservatives don’t want to tell others how to live their lives. This is an albatross the Republican Party has hung around its own neck. I don’t trust the government with my money, nor do I trust them to make medical decisions.

As long as the Republican party insists that the world is 4,000 years old, that terminating pregnancies is murder, and whatever other nonsense some “in the closet” gay preacher comes out with, the Republican party will never have the women’s vote. I believe in people’s personal freedoms, and it’s a shame I have to live in an ever increasingly socialist system because of the Evangelical stranglehold on the Republican Party leaving Marxists to win elections. Social Conservatism is not only hypocritical and judgemental, it’s also as un-American as The New Deal, The Great Society, and the Dems current incarnation of Marxism…I’m a conservative in every other way. I think most Republicans are of the same mind but are the silent majority on the issue of social conservatism….

adamsmith on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I was referring to Fox News calling Michelle Obama a “baby mama” and the non-outrage on this and other conservative sites.

Sorry dude, but Mrs. B. Hussein Ogabe opened that door herself, referring to Mr. Ogabe as “her baby’s daddy.”

Reap what you sow.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Good Lt on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Um thanks for the random image of Michael Steele in blackface, now what’s it supposed to mean.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

She’s done the unimaginable — making an interview with Paris Hilton look like a chat with a Physics scholar. Who thought this would be a good idea? This very awkward and damaging interview can’t help anyone but Fox’s ratings.

dcwvu on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

This is just FURTHER PROOF, that all of these Palin fanatics need to give it a rest.

Yes, abstinence IS realistic….if you have parents that are watching their CHILDREN.

The Wall on February 17, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Sarah’s political enemies are making sure Levi doesn’t get any job

So many tin foil hats, so little time.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Bristol, it is not unrealistic to encourage abstinence. Will kids screw up (so to speak)–of course. So you do both, abstinence and condoms.

I am sure Sullivan will have several posts on the lies and hypocrisy of the Palins over this.

Mr. Joe on February 17, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Um thanks for the random image of Michael Steele in blackface, now what’s it supposed to mean.

Dude, know your own people.

Good Lt on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Know your own people? How revealing.

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I didn’t need to practice abstinence. That happened all on its own. I was ugly as sin in HS, I made blind kids cry.

MDWNJ on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Because teenagers in the heat of passion are so methodical about using contraceptives………

I don’t think one needs to be particularly religious to think that it may not be a good idea for their children to be giving it up at age 15.

I agree with the above posters, THIS is what you post on Palin, not her opposition to the stimulus? Seriously?

Don’t worry we’ll nominate Romney in 2012 and Obama can run his “The Rich White Republican Man wants me to lose my job” campaign.

Techie on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Wow, you mean it’s not realistic to combat 200 million years of mammalian evolution with some classes and scolding?

BTW, I successfully practiced abstinence until college. It wasn’t by choice…

CTD on February 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM

We also certainly will not be engaging in any “welfare queen” rhetoric about Bristol Palin, she’s a “champion of life.” Ah conservative hypocrasy.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

She’s receiving welfare? I hadn’t heard about that. Can you post a link?
Also any link to the claim that she’s presenting herself as a “champion of life”….or do these items just exist in your mind as a crutch to bias?

Itchee Dryback on February 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM

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