Surveys say: Greens waste more energy
posted at 10:12 am on February 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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At least they do in Britain. I missed this Times of London report this weekend, but it’s amusing, and unfortunately, all too familiar on this side of the pond. Thermal-imaging surveys of the houses of leading global-warming activists show that they waste at least as much energy as the average homeowner, and in most cases, more:
THEY may shout their green credentials from the rooftops, but some of Britain’s most prominent environmental champions are living in homes that produce up to half a ton of excess carbon dioxide a year.
An audit of properties, measuring heat loss, has revealed that Chris Martin, the pop star, Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, and Sir David Attenborough, the broadcaster, are among those who reside in homes that are “leaking” energy. Some lack even the most basic energy saving measures such as cavity wall insulation and double glazing.
Thermal images of the residences of 10 high-profile green campaigners found that their heat loss was either worse or no better than that found in the average family home.
Simon Hughes, the Liberal Democrat energy and climate change spokesman, owned the least energy-efficient property. He bought his £150,000 flat in Southwark, south London, 25 years ago but has failed to fit it with any significant insulation. Only last week Hughes unveiled plans to make every home in Britain energy efficient within the next decade. He could start with his own flat.
As Glenn Reynolds often says, I’ll believe we have a crisis when the Cassandras start living as though a crisis exists. How hard is it to put insulation in the walls? Here in Minnesota, double glazing and insulation are basic requirements to winter living. Otherwise, we’d burn half of the nation’s natural gas to survive January. Apparently, the green crusaders in the UK choose Option 2.
We have our own Chicken Little hypocrites here, too. Al Gore flies by private jet to discuss the dangers of fuel consumption, and he lives in a house that uses twenty times the normal energy consumption of an average family home. It’s of a piece with John Edwards’ screeching about “Two Americas” and poverty while building himself a 28,000-square-foot mansion. We call that “limousine liberalism” here in the States. The only person I’ve seen put his money where his mouth is on green living is Ed Begley, Jr.
Not so Chris Martin and his wife, Gwyneth Paltrow. They own a home worth £2.5 million and obviously have the means to weatherize it. Paltrow campaigns in the US on green initiatives. Yet her own houseloses over a kilowatt-hour of energy a year, according to the thermal imaging analysis.
If they want to act as scolds, then they should first put their own houses in order — literally.
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Typical.
Jamewah on February 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM
You don’t understand – they are the intelligensia. The rules are for the little people. Not unlike taxes on this side of the Atlantic.
Vashta.Nerada on February 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM
In other breaking news – a dog bites a man.
King of the Britons on February 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Oh don’t worry.
They purchase carbon credits.
Whatever those are.
blatantblue on February 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I feel like a conservative DeathToMediaHacks feeding on hypocrisy. Yummy, Yummy!!!
WashJeff on February 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Yet another story showing that the environmental movement is about seizing power not saving the environment, perhaps in time people will recognize this for what it is, a stealth attempt to turn citizens into serfs. The liberal slogan should be “Do as I say not as I do”.
LincolntheHun on February 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Add Charles Mountbatten-Windsor to the list.
OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM
A kilowatt-hour is pretty trivial amount of energy. A 100 watt bulb uses a kilowatt-hour of energy in ten hours. if that’s all Paltrow’s house loses in a year, that’s quite commendable.
Just another useless factoid.
factoid on February 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM
I ended up building my own house recently that has multiple “green” features to it. In fact, it’s much more green than many people I know of who are full out Greentards. But I built it that way to save money in the long run, not to serve Mother Earth. If I knew insulating the walls with blubber from clubbed baby seals and spilled oil would have done the trick, I would have been all over it.
matd on February 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Who do these arrogant jerks think they are, leaving their carbon footprints all over the globe? Next they will be cranking the thermostat up to 80, eating wagyu steaks and burning up jet fuel just to go sign the most horrific piece of legislation ever created in front of some solar panels.
Hmmmmm…..
joedoe on February 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Despite this, the continued discrediting of the ‘global warming’ hoax, and the re-branding of the hoax (because they can’t sell it) – damned near everyone I meet is still convinced we’re in danger.
Hell, I was listening to some internet radio and E-Surance is throwing out climate change campaign ads, telling you that you can save the planet while you save money.
*sigh*
Darbraun on February 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Do as I say, not as I do. The libs take that adage to new absurd heights.
beachgirlusa on February 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM
NSS.
When will people start to understand that being “Green” is nothing more then a political movement whose only concern with the environment is to use it to bludgeon the people to your one world government cause?
jmarcure on February 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM
The Politburo is always sticking it to the proletariat.
I see a ready market for used Zil limousines.
Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I find it creepy that they took thermal images of peoples houses, even though it exposes greenies as phonies I still don’t like it.
rob verdi on February 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Another example of a selffish capitalist!!! ;-)
WashJeff on February 17, 2009 at 10:22 AM
carbon credits = the ability to legitimize a hypocrites mentality. (see Al Gore)
Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I see new viewing mode for Google maps on the horizon.
WashJeff on February 17, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Just like the Democrats in the US – “Don’t do as I do, do as I say.” They are the party, not of Hope and Change, but of Corruption and Fear.
DL13 on February 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM
But you must understand those people are important and need the large house with all the electronics. How on earth could ANYONE expect politicians and rock stars to live in a small energy efficient house? What is sad is I would wager a large amount of money that none of the people listed in the article see themselves as even a wee bit hypocritical. Us peons who aren’t important are the ones who must take one for the team.
txaggie on February 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM
As an architect, I can tell you that the whole Green movement is BS. I can tint the glass and claim it as a “green” feature. The real source of anger within this group of people in Britain is obvious….BAD TEETH That’s where the real green is!
lm10001 on February 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Ed, Martin’s house loses over a megawatt per year, not a kilowatt.
Vashta.Nerada on February 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM
I had read that the Brits were going to do it to find and fine people that were causing GW. I thought it was a joke. Maybe not.
jmarcure on February 17, 2009 at 10:26 AM
That’s where you dig a hole to bury the dirt.
Wander on February 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Can you see the day coming when the Government uses thermal imaging of your house to determine how much “green tax” you will owe?
I don’t suppose anyone knows of a manual to create a do-it-yourself satellite interceptor?
Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Oh, but it’s ok folks, because Gwenneth’s husband went to India to plant mango trees to offset their carbon faults…
/Give me a freaking break!!!
4shoes on February 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
B Hussein O is leaving a huge carbon footprint, flying to Chicago for VD dinner and on to Denver to sign Porkulus.
OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 10:28 AM
We know what hypocrites they are, that’s not news. But I hate stories like these because they put the focus in the wrong place. Stories like this play right into the hands of the commies that are destroying us becaue:
1) They lead you to believe that there actually is a problem with putting carbon dioxide into the air, but actually carbon dioxide is a good thing and a necessary thing in the air for life to exist on the planet. It does NOT cause global warming and is not harmful in any way. In fact, carbon dioxide is beneficial to the planet.
2) They lead you to believe that we should focus on reducing the amount of energy we use RATHER than simply producing more energy.
3) These stories are all about getting people to start pointing fingers at other people, for simply using energy, rather than fixing the problem, which is to simply produce more energy.
I don’t care how much energy my neighbor uses, just as long as they are paying for it. If there is not enough energy its because we are not producing enough energy. Its NOT because someone is using too much. We must guard against thinking like that because that is collectivism at work. If the pie isn’t big enough, don’t slice the pie thinner, simply make a bigger pie, that’s the free market and that’s the REAL solution to the problem.
Maxx on February 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM
How about that tax in Australia monitoring toilet flushes?
Which reminds a few years back when some government entity in PA tried to install flushless toilets. Who made sure the toilets had water flowing…labor unions. Who supports labor unions…Democrats.
WashJeff on February 17, 2009 at 10:30 AM
There’s one born every minute.
Just ask Al Gore. He managed to line his pockets with real “hot air”.
saiga on February 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Wrap your house in tinfoil.
MDWNJ on February 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM
It’s the whole watermelon thing writ large – Green on the outside, Red in the middle – along with a real heavy dose of ‘do as I say, not as I do.’
Dilbertnomore on February 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM
At last the cause of global warming is found!
It’s all the heat that is escaping from these “Green Advocates” homes plus Al Gore speeches! Send the Noble Peace Prize to Herb c/o HotAir.
Herb on February 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM
OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 10:28 AM
TO further that, he flew back to DC and is flying to Denver today. Apparently AF1 can’t fly straight to Denver from Chicago. After Denver he is flying to Phoenix to “save the housing market” there and watch the White Sox at spring trainning.
Carbon foot print be damned. He won!
milwife88 on February 17, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Our would be betters have always believed in “do as I say, not as I do”.
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Like the kings of old ordering the peasants out of the woods. They are not concerned with saving the resources. They are concerned with saving the resources for them.
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Wrap your house in tinfoil.
MDWNJ on February 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Tried it already. We left for a day of shopping and came back to find the dog resembling a double-baked potato.
Not good.
Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM
OOPPS! Nobel
Herb on February 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM
How is this any more creepy than taking a visual light image of the same house?
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM
After Denver he is flying to Phoenix to “save the housing market” there and watch the White Sox at spring trainning.
Come on now, Ogabe has been in office for like, what, three entire weeks now and he needs a break; it’s not as if there are any big issues to resolve.
I fully expect the libs to fly into a rage, screaming “He’s taking ANOTHER vacation????” as they did with Bush anytime the man so much as strolled through the rose garden.
Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM
mark,
its more intrusive. By the way the Supreme Court struck down a police effort to use thermal imaging as a means to find pot growers. basicly the heat lamps were used as a reason for a warrant
rob verdi on February 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Don’t you know, it’s not what they do that matters, it’s that they care more than you…or, something.
CP on February 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Ha! Well i just figured ever since i started wearing my tinfoil hat, the NSA,and CIA cant read my thoughts anymore…… But the real question is did he taste good with sourcream and cheddar.
MDWNJ on February 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM
The government will have a seperate lens for liberals.
Check your local “growers manual” (silly smoke)
They’ve had it down pat for years……..
Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM
completely predictable.
Here’s another one.
90% of tax cheats are liberals.
notagool on February 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM
You must mean megawatt-hour Ed. A kilowatt-hour is the amount of energy used by a 100 watt light bulb burning for 10 hours. That’s only a tiny amount of energy. In my area a kilowatt-hour cost about 14 cents.
Maxx on February 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Too much money and too much free time lead these people to take up causes like global warming, at the same time the excess money part means that, unlike regular people living within a budget, they don’t look in horror at last month’s heating bill and decide they have to do something like insulate the house, re-do the windows, close off some rooms or just turn down the thermostat to get their cost of living back into line.
(This is for people like Martin and Paltrow who just want to feel good about themselves by talking up
global warmingclimate change. For people like Al Gore with his gianormous carbon footprint, talking up the crisis is his way of directly making money.)jon1979 on February 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Well there goes the “high moral ground”………..again.
GarandFan on February 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Just another useless factoid.
factoid on February 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Factoid has it right, a kilowatt-hour per year is a trivial amount of energy to lose in a year. Even a megawatt-hour in a year (8760 hours) translates to an average heat loss rate of 114 watts, slightly more than the energy consumed by one light bulb.
For Vashta.Nerada, a megawatt is a rate of energy loss or power, equal to a million Joules per second. A “megawatt per year” makes no sense, because the “rate” concept (inverse time units) are already included in watts or megawatts.
If we’re going to criticize green crusaders as hypocrites (which many of them are), we need to keep our facts straight.
Steve Z on February 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Obama wants Green Jobs and these Hollywood types recognize that Obama has groupies…It’s all about Obama Love. A PUMA Blogger, on how superficial the election of Barack H Obama really was. Or what every Marketer knows Sex Sells.
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/selling-obamalove/
Dr Evil on February 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM
That is true. I read that a few months back. Crazy crap. We have a septic system. One of our Town Hall fruits wants to do same thing here. They can stuff it. Having a septic isn’t the greatest. If you don’t flush it then it can make the inside look disgusting. Also the light bulbs that they are going to make us buy are very expensive. I think I will go and buy out all the light bulbs too.
sheebe on February 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM
He used to do some good commercials for Breyer’s ice-cream. It was about how all-natural the ingredients were–stuff that you’d have in your own kitchen–and then compared that with other ice-creams, asking in disbelief, “guar gum?” Good advert, though now most Breyer’s ice-creams are filled with guar and other gums, and even the regular ones have replaced sugar with corn-syrup. :(
Tzetzes on February 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Rob,
I live in Nor Cal….while you’re correct, it’s a bit naive to believe this method is not used to locate basic areas to begin a search.
Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM
OK, megawatt hour per year. I was just asking to exchange megawatt for kilowatt in the header text, I assumed the word ‘hour’ would stay there.
Vashta.Nerada on February 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM
sethstorm on February 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM
There is nothing wrong with wasting energy because we know there is no global warming. The liberals know it too. That is why they have no problem with spending their money to heat large mansions. Al Gore knows full well that his jet is NOT damaging the planet. We know it. He knows it. Liberals simply use the global warming scare to extract political and economic concessions from society.
So the issue is not one of hypocrisy, which is the way Ed is approaching this. Hypocrisy would be the valid angle of attack if global warming was real, and it was man made. Since it is not, and liberals clearly know this, their real crime is one much more insidious – propaganda, lying, for political purposes.
The only liberal stupid enough to believe in global warming is Ed Begley Jr., and what has he done since St. Elsewhere?
keep the change on February 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM
That’s not true at all and nobody believes you.
Ars Moriendi on February 17, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Check your local “growers manual” (silly smoke)
They’ve had it down pat for years……..
Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM
No, I want something that can actually intercept and destroy a satellite.
Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
What’s not true?
All the comments? The one before your comment or just your comment?
jmarcure on February 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Difference is, tax laws allow for shelters. No one in their right (or left) mind would pay full taxes. Therefore, they shelter as much as possible.
Liberals on the other hand, extol the virtues of paying taxes as being “patriotic”, yet purposely avoid paying taxes, which is illegal.
Suggesting moral equivalence is intellectually dishonest.
rightside on February 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM
More intrusive only by the slimmest of margins.
The SC has long ruled that police are able to use any information gained by normal perception. What they hear is admissible. What they hear using high powered microphones is not. What they see using their own eyes is admissable. What they see using telescopes, or any other kind of vision enhancement is not.
Regardless, the restrictions placed on police are not relevant here, since these people are not going to be put on trial for using too much energy. (They reserve that for the rest of us.)
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Ask the ChiComs.
Frozen Tex on February 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM
lmao! Thanks for the mornin’ chuckle Bishop. I needed that.
Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM
We don’t have that kind of tech avaliable here. Try China. They have it. Why do you want to destroy a satellite? For fun? Profit? Because you think the thermal image is from space? It’s not you know. It’s a hand held unit that even you can buy.
jmarcure on February 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM
keep the change on February 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Hypocrisy is saying one thing while doing another. Which is what these people are doing.
It doesn’t matter that AGW isn’t real. They are still hypocrites when they demand that the rest of us live in a manner that they are not willing to live themselves.
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 11:15 AM
sethstorm on February 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM
How does taking advantage of a legal tax shelter make one a tax cheat?
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM
CM is the one who made a fortune copying the style of Nick Drake (”Pink Moon”) and singing about Yellow. Not yellow moon, not yellow submarine, not even mellow yellow. Just yellow.
Tzetzes on February 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM
The Navy did a pretty good job destroying one last year.
MarkTheGreat on February 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM
conservatives
jmarcure on February 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Ironically, the fellow in charge of the Watts up with That site, an articulate and knowledgeable AGW foe, lives greener than any of these Chicken Little elitists/
michaelo on February 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM
I know, I was just busting him/her/it.
jmarcure on February 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Governments are hard to work with. Iridium Satellite LLC just conducted a successful demonstration of similar capabilities.
DarkCurrent on February 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Let’s put this into perspective, shall we?
According to the US DOE the average Midwestern household uses 890 Therms of energy in a heating season. A Therm is roughly 30 kWh, so even if we assume that Ed meant to say that Paltrow wastes 1000 kWh of heat a year, that still amounts to only about 33 Therms, or a little more than 3.7% over the average. Somehow I fail to be overwhelmed by the magnitude of hypocrisy involved.
But what’s more important here is that, hypocrisy or not, conserving energy is an important thing to do. Even former Vice President Cheney has stated that conservation “is a virtue.” It also often makes economic sense. Do it!
factoid on February 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
That one was in a decaying orbit, and on its way down (which made the shot closer to something like ballistic missile defense). The Chinese destroyed a bird in stable orbit, although the USAF used to have something (I think) in the inventory that would do the trick… like this.
Frozen Tex on February 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
If her house is losing a kilowatt-hour per day, then over a year that is 365 Kilowatt-hours, at a 6-cent rate (that’s what my rate per Kwh actually is here I just checked my bill), that is only $21.90 worth of electricity over the course of an entire year. That’s still a trivial amount, any big house would leak that much energy, so there is either something wrong with the estimate, or the complaint is over something very trivial.
I used 914 kilowatt-hours of electricity last month, my bill was for $55.60. That is an average usage of about 30 kilowatt-hours per day and I live in an average size house, maybe 1,200 square feet.
Maxx on February 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
rovin,
I am sure police bend a rule here and there.
mark,
using thermal imaging to see get the heat signature from behind covered areas is more them open eyes.
rob verdi on February 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
It’s past time to make Orwell’s Animal Farm mandatory reading for the entire US population.
kens on February 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Hypocrisy
Libertarian Joseph on February 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
It just goes to show you that they don’t really believe what they spew. They just like being part of a “movement”.
pageram on February 17, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Yep, and the jumbo jet AF-1 burns 10,000 gallons of aircraft fuel EACH WAY. Just so he can have his picture taken signing the sh!t sandwich in front of a solar array.
Talk about glaring hypocrisy.
UltimateBob on February 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Hey, indulgences have a long tradition in western civilization.
Interestingly, yet another way that environmentalism looks more and more like neo-feudalism.
18-1 on February 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Sorry, wrong thread. Somehow I posted this here instea
Ars Moriendi on February 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM
I love it when blowhards get nailed like this.
They should revisit each of the homes in 3 months to see if any of them have bothered to do anything about it.
Dave Rywall on February 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM
…and for that he is mocked, even among his own. Doesn’t Ed know how cool hypocrisy is?
calbear on February 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM
It’s like the “I just ran 1 mile so I can eat a pan of brownies” justification.
Going on TV and talking about how green everyone should be makes them feel like they’re doing their part. Then, they get fan mail from the peasants that are probably full of all the green things that the prominent person inspired them to do. This, in turn, makes them feel even better about all they’ve done for the earth. And, on occasion, they’ll even do something like turn a light off and eat a dinner in the dark or not turn the heat all the way up when it gets cold and they’ll feel even better about their efforts.
Then, when folks start yelling about how energy inefficient they are, they feel unfairly attacked because of all the good they’ve done. They look at their balance sheet of carbon goodness and feel that they’re a net positive and other people are just picking on them and, of course, no one’s perfect and I’m going to get to that eventually and so on and so forth.
JadeNYU on February 17, 2009 at 1:37 PM
You forgot one, Ed. Mr. “We can’t keep our thermostats at 72° but he’s from Hawaii.”
Kafir on February 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Yep.
It’s not unusual to see him riding his bike around the valley, not to mention his electric car.
The Ugly American on February 17, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Like I said, the issue we need to focus on is not hypocrisy it is propaganda. Calling them out for hypocrisy gives the impression we believe in the cause – and only care that they are not doing more. We don’t want them doing more. We want them to shut up and do less. Forget the hypocrisy, concentrate on the lie.
keep the change on February 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM
But their hydroponics need the light.
TheSitRep on February 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
I wonder if The One™ will be buying carbon credits for the trip to Colorado. You know…the bill could have been signed in DC. What a hypocrite
blr2449 on February 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM
MDs have the Hippocratic Oath. These jokers have the hypocrite hand shake.
burt on February 17, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Bravo.
Now that the sermon is over, can we finally begin choir practice?
Jaibones on February 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Liberal politicians (entertainers, ect.) apparently only pay their taxes when they are caught.
Johan Klaus on February 17, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Ed, you might want to check your units. A kilowatt-hour of energy per year is very little. It’s the equivalent of running a 100 watt bulb for ten hours, each year.
Perhaps you mean they are wasting a kilowatt, on average? Or a kilowatt-hour per day? (But even that isn’t much compared to a normal heating load.)
Or perhaps it’s a megawatt-hour per year. That’s a bit closer to being significant, just 10,000 hours of a 100-watt bulb.
njcommuter on February 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Conservation is for the little people.
These people are up late at night reading Das Kapital and stuff, working hard for Socialism.
So, give them a break if they devote their time and energies for the Proletariat rather than sticking insulation stripping around their doors and windows.
Not only that, they’re probably too high to do it right anyway…just my guess here.
Dr. ZhivBlago on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Its about greed. Algore and many others have made fortunes on this and become powerful in a very dangerous way. They use fear for this also, just as was done with the stimulus bill. Paltrow spent a lot of time tooling around Spain with friends in a couple of Mercedes wasting gas to taste the local cuisine and sold the filming of that to public television. So we paid for that also. Ed Begley also made a show on his green lifestyle, but I think he at least really does as he says. Its about greed, not green.
mph on February 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
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