Illegal aliens awarded $78,000 in damages against Arizona rancher who held them at gunpoint
posted at 7:49 pm on February 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
Remember this? The verdict’s in and the vicious comments at the Chronicle’s website have already begun: “He should have just shot them and buried them on his ranch. Shoot, shovel, and shutup. Who’s gonna report them missing?” A fitting sentiment on the day Ramos and Compean were sprung given their own attempt to cover up their crime.
That said, how can a guy be liable for holding potentially dangerous trespassers on his property at gunpoint until the cops come?
A federal jury found Tuesday that a southern Arizona rancher didn’t violate the civil rights of a group of illegal immigrants who claimed that he detained them at gunpoint in 2004.
The eight-member civil jury also found Roger Barnett wasn’t liable on claims of battery and false imprisonment.
But the jury did find him liable on four claims of assault and four claims of infliction of emotional distress and ordered Barnett to pay $77,804 in damages — $60,000 of which were punitive.
Barnett declined to comment afterward, but one of his attorneys, David Hardy, said the plaintiffs lost on the bulk of their claims and that Barnett has a good basis for appeal on the two counts on which he lost.
I’m at a loss. All I can figure is that he somehow went above and beyond simply holding them. There was a dog involved. Maybe he gave them the Abu Ghraib treatment? The tort of assault typically involves fear of bodily harm while infliction of emotional distress turns on “outrageous conduct”; threatening to have a snarling pitbull tear their arms off would arguably qualify on both counts, if in fact something like that happened, but is that really any worse than pointing a gun at them? Enlighten me, ambulance chasers.
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What a bunch of crap.
StephC on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Send all the MALDEF attorneys on a Carnival Cruise
Crazy John on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I swear… we are in some freaky parallel universe or something. I certainly hope this goes to appeal and he actually wins cash from the friggin’ criminals that broke the law by entering his property in the first place.
Doesn’t THAT crime mean ANYTHING?
cannonball on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Unless one of parties was injured directly due to the actions of the landowner or the dog under his direction (and unless the jury has completely lost it, pyscological issues should have been tossed) this thing should have been laughed out of court. The non-punitive pieces were only 17.8k so that was what a hang nail at the emergency room…
Reminds me of a CA lawsuit where two burglers break into the same house and one stabs the other one. The injured party sues the home owner for damages and wins. Gota love our legal system.
Bunsin on February 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I’m pretty sure it does in Texas.
carbon_footprint on February 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I would suggest that he counter sue the government for not protecting his property from illegal immigreants.
Scrappy on February 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Sometimes even too much to drink is barely enough.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on February 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Rewrite:
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and they will be lucky to live through it.
izoneguy on February 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Imagine beers all around at MALDEF and La Raza, they get to relish another multi generation ranch on the border go on the block.
Speakup on February 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM
But they’re undocumented workers, doing the jobs Americans won’t do!
They’re potential Democrats as soon as someone from ACORN gets to them!
Dang, you heartless righties…don’t you know this is the Age of Osama Obama?
/s
MrScribbler on February 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Wait a second, these were illegal immigrants engaged in the illegal act of trespassing and somehow the landowner has to pay damages?
carbon_footprint on February 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I say kick all the ranchers out of Texas and give their land to the illegals.
Ogabe is trying hard to make us like Zimbabwe, might as well make it official.
Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Did ya grab a 213 for home use?
dmann on February 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM
This is no big victory for Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. There were originally 16 plaintiffs, only 6 at the trial.
If the jury gave damages to only 4 plaintiffs, it is $ 4,451 of actual damages and $ 15,000 punitive damages for each of the 4 plaintiffs.
So what did Mr. Barnett do beyond lawfully holding the illegals for the Border Patrol to be found liable for assault and intentional infliction of emotional distress?
The trial judge probably gave the proper instructions to the jury, so it is unlikely that the trial judge will overturn or reduce the jury verdicts. It is even more unlikely that the 9th Circuit will overturn these verdicts.
Another downer for Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund and Mr. Barnett is that since all the claims are tort claims, neither MALDEF or Mr. Barnett will get attorneys fees from the other side.
Since it is not an overwhelming plaintiff victory, the trial judge may order each side to pay their own court costs.
Hopefully, Mr. Barnett was defended by lawyers paid for by his homeowners insurance carrier and the insurance company will pay the money damages.
slp on February 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Perhaps next time, milk and cookies.
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Plus a ride to the judge’s front door.-
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Park an old trailer in his front yard so they can live in it.
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Actually the hard working citizens of Mexico might be the salvation of America, but they should enter in an orderly manner.
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Finally, Mexico could and should be a land of opportunity, just as America once was. Another case of a short sighted if not brain dead ruling class.
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That’s it, BRAIN DEAD just like on Capitol hill.
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All dogs go to heaven, politicians not so much.
esblowfeld on February 17, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Your Grandfathers kept you from having to learn German or Japanese or be lamp shades. But YOU ARE NOT the men or women that they were, not even close.
Once we get our amnesty, we will all come to your country. We will all have at least 10 kids and in a generation we will overwhelm and deport most of you Gringos! Some of you, if you learn Spanish real well, we might let you stay to pick our lettuce or mow our lawns or take care of OUR children in what used to be your houses.
Those who don’t learn Spanish will be deported to Alaska. That is until Al Gore’s global warming heats things up and we want Alaska too, then we will deport you all to New Orleans. It will probably all be under water by then anyway. I hope you Gringos can swim, he, he, he. My bad!!!
So give it up and LEARN SPANISH! You should probably all buy Mexican flags too and fly them in your front yard and on your pickup trucks. If you already have an American flag there it is alright if you keep it, as long as you fly it upside down and below our great Mexican flag.
Now repeat after me – I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Mucho Grande Mexico, and to the Republic for which it use to stand, one nation under me, with everything for us, and nothing for you.
And remember Gringos,
APRENDER EL ESPANOL!!!
VinyFoxy on February 17, 2009 at 8:50 PM
VinyFoxy,
Please never forget to take your medication.
nagee76 on February 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Want to know who donates big-time to MALDEF? Boggles the mind!
http://www.channelingreality.com/Economic/maldef.htm
I am going to do my best never to spend another nickel on any of their products.
califcon on February 17, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Well, if the SOBs hadn’t been in this country illegally, AND TRESPASSING ON HIS PROPERTY, they never would have been exposed.
What the H*ll is wrong with people these days, has everyone gone insane?
johnsteele on February 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
You mean a .223?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
“Emotional distress”???
Distressed at getting caught maybe?
How does their ‘emotional distress’ on Mr. Barnett’s ranch equate to how coyotes treat them when smuggled through. Are they gonna sue them, too?
Dr. ZhivBlago on February 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Like your royal family, the Kennedy’s, I am mucho rich. I will always have the best in medication. You on the other hand under the Obama/Dashle cost efficient health plan will only get a sock to bite down on while someone hits you over the head with a shovel to put you out of your misery.
VinyFoxy on February 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Interesting, Sorus Foundation is one of the main foundation partners there.
carbon_footprint on February 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Soros rather, as in George Soros.
carbon_footprint on February 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I say he buys a school bus and offers them rides into town and takes them to the Sheriff’s office instead. Lexan windows and electric locks on the doors should do the trick.
thomasaur on February 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM
The key was a finding of no liability on the civil rights claims. Those carry attorney fees provisions and probably would have been quadruple the award.
Lou Budvis on February 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Insane is too kind a word to describe the damages he’s supposed to pay.
This country has lost its collective mind it seems.
Yakko77 on February 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Screw it. Pay them in Pesos.
n0doz on February 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Yup. Soros, along with General Motors, Anheuser-Busch, Kaiser-Permanente, Gerber, Levi Strauss, Fannie freakin’ Mae!!
califcon on February 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Why do you think the government is building all those toll roads? El Grande Coyote.
Limerick on February 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Maybe we could get an illegal alien to sue for a copy of Husseins birth certificate!!!
…are we stuck in some South Park episode?
christene on February 17, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Unbelievable! The sad thing is I am beginning to wish I didn’t even care anymore. I guess they say ignorance is bliss for a reason. Between this, the stimulus package and the possible reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine it has been a downer of a day…. Will we even have a country left to fight for??
PAGOPgirl on February 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Please Allah…….
…….. don’t get me started. I have followed this and many like it for years. You can count and thank the numerous Mexican Consulates that infest this country, and show up at an accident with attorneys before Fire and Rescue.
……….. If they “covered up their crime”, charge them with that “obstruction of justice”. But why were they prosecuted under “civil rights violations”?
By the way……..
……… next time you’re in San Diego,
a tour of the border is on me,
…………. my treat.
Seven Percent Solution on February 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Awesome +1eleventy
Ugly on February 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
johnsteele on February 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
The patients are running the asylum.
blr2449 on February 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM
What? This must be the title of one of the old episodes from the TWILIGHT ZONE!
jbh45 on February 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Vinny………..
……. must be proud to be a Mexican today with the corruption, drug violence, and the country of Mexico quickly circling the toilet bowl.
Where is your machismo……….?
……… Why not take your fight south of the border and fix Mexico for Mexicans? Why not stand up and use your the freedoms you enjoy in the United States to take the fight to the lawless in Mexico and return your country to one based on laws and not the mordita?
Why not “be all you can be” for la madre de Mexico, Republic of……?
Come on Vinny…………..
………. enlighten us? And by the way, every time I hear of another headless body found in Tijuana, I can’t find any outrage by La Raza. It’s in the thousands now. More last year than all of the US Service Men and Women killed in Iraq over the past six years.
Can you please provide the link, por favor………?
Seven Percent Solution on February 17, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Understanding the punitive award is simple. If white men hand not domesticated dogs, invented the rifle, and occupied Arizona then none of this would have happened.
Limerick on February 17, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Yep, just the same as some one who breaks into your home or your property and is hurt in the process, even if you are not present.
N4646W on February 17, 2009 at 9:14 PM
OMG! I’m from Arizona have lived in Tucson…when I saw that Tucson was where the trial was going to be held I thought, crap…lots of open border idiots down there. This rancher should sue then gov. Janet Napolitano, the State of Arizona and the Federal Government for lack of basic protection. Un-F-ing believable.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:15 PM
I just swore. That judgment is a load of crap! The dude should sue the state/congress for failing to do their job and allowing dangerous aliens on his land and in his country!
TDBURN on February 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Maybe these criminals should ahve not trespassed on his property? Count me in the group thinking he should have just shot them and buried them to avoid this kind of insanity where protecting your land now costs you almost $80,000. Seems like a few heads on pikes would deter people from crossing the border in his backyard, no?
cadams on February 17, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Did he get a jury of his peers?
There is a reason we insist that defendants get judged by their PEERS, and not by people from a different community.
If his jury was made up of his fellow rural citizens I figure he must have gotten a fair trial. If he got ramrodded by a jury made up of a bunch of big city fellows- then I figure he did not get a fair trial.
Sackett on February 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM
That is the beauty of the Federal system. Wyatt Earp’s peers could reside in Marin County.
Limerick on February 17, 2009 at 9:22 PM
No, I mean a M213 50 cal. off a Huey. I guess poaching the M60 set up off one of your birds would work just as well!
dmann on February 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Wow!!! Your really full of your self aren’t you. Maybe we’ll get lucky and find your headless carcass in some border town.
Boy, open registration is sooo much fun.
N4646W on February 17, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I’m pretty sure his ranch was in the Sierra Vista area which is about 45min to and hour from Tucson..so no..he was judged by Tucson residents..and you’re right..rural folks who live along the border think a lot differently then the regular Tucson population. And Tucson has a very heavy democratic open-border base. Disgrace.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
That’s what happens when you pull a jury from a drivers license pool rather than voting records… but wait, they screw up just as much.
Static on February 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Just saw this absolutely fantastic idea on another site:
Speakup on February 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Oh I got you. No, never had a 50 cal on a Huey. M60s and now we have M240s. My 223 is all I need for home defense.
And my Beretta.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM
There’s a lot of info about Barnett at the below site. I didn’t realize he even testified in front of Congress as to the big problem with illegal immigration. This is why we in Arizona think it’s a JOKE that Napaltano is Homeland Security Sec..she was a worthless gov. who bankrupted our state and did nothing about illegal immigration.
http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_pictures/invasion_barnett.html
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Maybe he can now sue the illegals for trespassing on his land and causing damage. $78k ought to cover it.
GarandFan on February 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Awesome! Thanks for posting that, I bookmarked it for later.
Too bad Barnett couldn’t have gotten a change of venue to Maricopa County. Get some of Sheriff Joe’s people on that jury.
califcon on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Keep a good supply of booze,butts,ammo, all good trade items.Read up on the 10th amendment and consider succession.
Cut and paste the article to elected officals and send a copy to your bank,screw Bud.
Send money to the republican lawyers fighting farken,gun owners of America,NRA.
Do more than write, flack the story back to the corporate HQ’s.
Nuff is enough.
Col.John Wm. Reed on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
what has happened to the wonderful country i was born in.
Milhouse on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Unfortunately I think our jury system of “peers” is very outdated. I know that there are special courts for medical malpractice, insurance fraud, etc…but I’m seriously thinking our jury pool system is a joke.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
just dreaming……though the M4 should keep’m honest!
dmann on February 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
I can’t think of enough expletives to describe this ruling.
aikidoka on February 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
No kidding! I could’ve been one of them! Yeah, I was thinking the same thing earlier..if only the trial was being held up here in Phoenix..he would’ve had a better chance. Even though Phoenix has a heavy hispanic population, they don’t like the illegal problem and tend to be more outspoken about it than the Ariz hispanics further south.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Wileygrl3:
Remember Nappy’s statement, “If we build a 50 foot high fence they will find a 51 foot ladder?”….
In October 2008, just one month, in Bisbee, law enforcement arrested over 400,000 illegals. One month. Of those 400K, 21,000 of them were classified as “OTM”, other than Mexican. That means, Salvadoran, Guatemalan or….Middle Eastern.
Friend of mine at work, Hispanic guy. Tells me about illegals captured crossing the border, including some who wear brand new clothes, shoes, caps, clean shaven and don’t speak Spanish….photos I’ve seen that are taken at known ‘rest areas’ on the route over the border of Korans, postcards of mosques in ME countries, etc.
Happens all the time. But hey, Nappy’s in charge, right?
koz on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
koz on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
No kidding Koz…can’t wait to hear Bruce Jacobs on kfyi tomorrow hammer “crappy Nappy” about this…should be a good show!
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Corpses don’t sue.
Alden Pyle on February 17, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Bruce will be about a block from my house tomorrow at TC Eggingtons, doing a ‘pre-game’ show in advance of the protests at Dobson High School. 0bozo is speaking there tomorrow. Gonna tell us all how he’s paying our rent, doncha know…..
I’m taking my camera, no sign carrying. Hubby’s afraid I’ll end up in jail and miss work, ha ha!
koz on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Dude, you’re a wit.
jaime on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM
You didn’t watch An American Carol, did you? Zombie lawyers. ZOMBIE LAWYERS!
Ugly on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM
I just had this bad feeling in my gut when I first heard this case was going to trial , just knew the liberal court jerks were going to twist the law around in some manner , so that the border jumpers would benefit.
Just simply damn disgusted.
felix on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 PM
koz on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM
You must live close to me..I’m in walking distance from Dobson High and will be EXTREMELY pissed if I’m late for work because the Messiah decided to give a rah rah there and the roads are blocked…good for you for going to the protest! My parents might be there. lol. Bruce kept saying “now remember..TC Egginton is for breakfast..not to carpool down” lol. I’ll be there in spirit.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 PM
I’d recommend the Case CX800B Excavator bad to the bone Ooo/sarc
heshtesh on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 PM
SOS FUBAR Yep, that’s our legal system. Just one more opportunity post Bambi.
Flying Jolly Roger
Caststeel on February 17, 2009 at 10:00 PM
From the chron.com article:
Pretty impressive statistics. I wonder how many more illegals were deterred by his presence alone.
the48car on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
What was it your candidate, Backdoor John McCain called them? God’s children. For some reason, McCain wanted to give the Democrats millions of new voters, too. Wonder why this story bothers you since you were such a fan of McCain? I thought he could do no wrong. Or maybe this story wouldn’t be an issue for you if Backdoor John had won. Remember, when it comes to illegal immigration, Backdoor John and Lindsey Grahamnesty want the border enforcement first folks (the bigots) to shut up. You need to work on your mavericky maverick bonafides, Mr Scribbler. You can’t get angry about illegal immigrants when you’re an acolyte of King Maverick. Remember the GOP motto: We don’t throw away our garbage. We eat it. Specter 2012
austinnelly on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Just more wealth distribution, which we’ve been told is a Good Thing.
Alana on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Precisely. When in doubt, shoot.
uncivilized on February 17, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Stimulus?? Better check the fine print. Heh
Flying Jolly Roger
Caststeel on February 17, 2009 at 10:03 PM
VinyFoxy on February 17, 2009 at 8:50 PMTenga mucho cuidado … no me rodadura
ORrighty on February 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM
The border needs to be MILITARIZED, and I don’t mean that we need to send the National Guard down there to sit on their hands. I mean in the ROE sense of “militarize”. Anything less is moronic and wholly indefensible.
progressoverpeace on February 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM
austinnelly on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Austin..McCain, or Lettuce as we like to call him, still wouldve been a MUCH better pick than Obama. Arizonans were extremely pissed with McCain about the amnesty crap..but when you put the whole crap sandwich that Obama just gave us compared to McCain..I pick McCain over that. And btw..McCain heard us loud and clear about border security first..not last.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM
If there’s one constitutional amendment that we need, it is this:
Nobody may sue anyone for injuries, whether physical, emotional, or psychological, that were recieved while committing a crime.
Or this one:
In any lawsuit case, the loser must pay the other side’s legal fees.
These two would get rid of a bunch of frivolous or morally wrong lawsuits, freeing up the judicial system’s time for real cases.
captainmeta4 on February 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM
that translates to … be very careful … don’t tread on me
ORrighty on February 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM
It may very well be sooner rather than later. I just heard on the news here in PHX to expect the meth manufacturing problem to dramatically spike due to the Mexican drug gangs crossing over to setup business here. Nice.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
appeal- drag it on forever -start an online fund for the legal fees. Fight Back.
Dr Evil on February 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM
We need to get rid of the ACLU first. They are destroying our Constitution.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM
I predict that there will soon be a rash of scumbag illegals suing ranch owners.
Good gravy! This country has lost it’s direction.
csdeven on February 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM
austinnelly on February 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Many of us Arizonans that voted for McCain in the election knew full well his position on amnesty. The fact of the matter is that those illegals that have settled in the state are here to stay. We all know it. Amnesty is just going to put a legal face on already drained resources, already escalating crime, already escalating cultural conflicts.
What has to happen is the borders MUST BE SECURED. That is what has to take place. We can’t do much about what’s already happened, but we can stop it from continuing to bleed through.
Amnesty is a given, regardless of party lines. For them it’s about votes.
koz on February 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Wish it was an M4. Close quarters full auto… That’ll do it.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM
BTW, anyone. Barack the liar said he was going to be strong on national security. When was his press conference about the dangerous Southern Border and this poor farmer?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Better idea: Open season, year round. No tags. No spectators; participants only. Pre-qualifying for accuracy required. $50 license at your post office.
Wood chipper rentals available – group rates. Feed the Yellowstone wolves.
Now is there anybody un-offended?
Oh yes. “Nuke the unborn baby whales for
JesusMohammad.”Next.
Flying Red Jolly Roger
Caststeel on February 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM
He probably put a 120 day hold on any security so that he and his team of experts can make sure no one’s civil rights are being violated. In the meantime Rome is burning. Go figure.
Wileygrl3 on February 17, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Whip the jury.
Jaibones on February 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Are they US citizens? NO? Then pay ‘em in Peso’s. 78,000 Peso’s is about 5K US.
That’s should be good for them all to get bus tickets to Phoenix for a good old US/MEX kidnapping.
This land is my land… now this land is your land…er something like that..
Indian Outlaw on February 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Forgot about endangered species. Dunno if there’s enough ammo but, with American ingenuity, IA’s could, at least become rare.
Flying Red jolly Roger
Caststeel on February 17, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Damn.
tree hugging sister on February 17, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Doesn’t matter if he actually committed the tort of assault or engaged in “outrageous conduct.” All it takes is a jury being duped by the attorney selling his clients’ “distress.” That’s why they are appealing this thing. Probably no grounds for the verdict.
change is for suckers on February 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Legend, here you go.
Entelechy on February 17, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Look, I am all for this guy prtecting his property and holding ilegals until the Polezei arrive. That said, if this dude did indeed kick the women that were not resisting, as was alleged, he deserves to have his wallet raided a little bit. He is lucky he isnt charged with a felony and doing jail time.
paulsur on February 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM
It’s easy, okay?
What the court is telling you is to kill all the threatening people. No witnesses, no complaints.
Is this where we’re really headed?
Special Forces Grunt on February 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM
The rancher should counter sue for his mental and emotional distress, I’m sure he thought he might die.
Blue Collar Todd on February 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Please tell me that is sarcasm . . .
If I snuck across the border into a foreign country and trespassed on someone else’s land, despite a ton of posted signs warning me not to do so, I would consider myself extremely lucky if all the guy did was kick me. And I certainly don’t think there would be some sort of “Ugly American Defense Fund” to file a lawsuit for me in that foreign country.
califcon on February 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM
yep…
As for B. Hussien Obama and national security, they’ll be pulling Choctaw’s out Davis Monthan before you ever see 60M’s or 53K’s in any serious numbers.
Healin that kills…All Hail!
dmann on February 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
The government should pay him for doing their job.
Johan Klaus on February 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM
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