Minnesota Recount: Court limits absentee-ballot categories
posted at 8:31 am on February 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Call it a “bad news, good news” decision on the part of the election contest judges in Minnesota. Yesterday, the panel eliminated 12 of 19 categories of uncounted absentee ballots, ruling them invalid and removing them from consideration. That sounds like bad news for Norm Coleman, but as it turns out, it only removes about a quarter of the 4800 ballots in dispute:
Dealing a blow but not a knockout to Republican Norm Coleman’s hopes, the judges in the U.S. Senate election trial on Friday tossed out most of the 19 categories of rejected absentee ballots they were considering for a second look, making it clear that they won’t open and count any ballots that don’t comply with state law.
On its face, the ruling looked to be a victory for DFLer Al Franken, whose lawyers had urged the judges to turn down 17 of the 19 categories and said Friday that they had very nearly done it. …
But Coleman’s attorneys saw it differently, saying that the ruling leaves untouched about 3,500 of the 4,800 rejected absentee ballots they want the court to open and count, enough to make it possible for Coleman to overcome Franken’s 225-vote certified recount lead.
Coleman lawyer Fritz Knaak said that those remaining votes — along with the ballots of registered voters who were thought to be nonregistered as well as the ballots of voters whose signatures looked mismatched but weren’t — will eventually result in Coleman’s return to the Senate.
If you’re Coleman, you want as many categories to remain in consideration, because he needs as many new ballots as possible to gain an increase of at least 226 votes. Just on the raw numbers, losing 1300 ballots out of the count makes that more difficult, although it also depends on where those ballots originated. And don’t forget that third-party candidate Dean Barkley will also get some of these votes, which complicates Coleman’s prospects.
In a three-way race with Barkley getting 15% of the vote, a sample of 4800 would require Coleman to outpoll Franken by slightly less than 5% of the overall vote, 44.85% – 40.15% to get 226 votes. In a sample of 3500, he has to outpoll Franken by more than six points, 45.73% – 39.27%. That would be farther outside the split of the race, although Franken has largely already gotten the absentees from his best districts added to the vote count. What’s left is more likely to favor Coleman, which is why Franken wanted more categories dismissed.
That’s why the decision actually helps Coleman more than it hurts. It leaves a pretty large sample of ballots for new votes to count, and the originating counties tend to be in Coleman’s favor. This decision almost ensures that all of these ballots will wind up getting opened, which is exactly what Coleman needs. The election contest also has yet to rule on the double-counted provisional ballots, and if Coleman wins that argument, Franken’s lead will dip under a hundred even before opening these ballots. Overall, it’s a win for Coleman — and for the voters who will finally get their voices heard in this election.










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Franken is a moron.
bloggless on February 14, 2009 at 8:51 AM
I’m sorry, if Colman eventually ends up the winner,republican voters will still be denied a true voice. While it is true Colman will be allowed to vote, will he be allowed to know what he is voting for, or against? If the stimulus package is evidence of the way our world now turns, the answer is no. No republicans will be allowed to actively participate formulating of bills and won’t even be given copies of the bills or enough time to read them if they somehow manage to get their hands on a copy.
Republican voters have effectively been denied their franchise.
oldernwiser on February 14, 2009 at 8:56 AM
If he does make it to the US Senate, he should fit right in with the Democrats & 3 of the Republicans
DJ Dubya on February 14, 2009 at 8:59 AM
When Coleman wins it will be another slap on the face of Dingy Harry. I can live with that.
DannoJyd on February 14, 2009 at 9:02 AM
I can’t believe this is taking this long. 200 years of voting in this country, and we still can’t get it right.
JetBoy on February 14, 2009 at 9:09 AM
If Norm pulls this out, we will look at this as a turning point for GOP fortunes nation wide. Franken in the Senate would be a very bad joke.
Mr. Joe on February 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM
We could get it right if the leftists weren’t so marxy and if real Americans weren’t so lazy.
DannoJyd on February 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Franken is not even funny, what makes him think he would make good representative?
What does a Franken voter look like, from a demographic perspective?
MSGTAS on February 14, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Anybody wanna take bets that Franken will suddenly find another 789 ballots (all for him, natch!) in the trunk of somebody’s lemon yellow Prius?
bloggless on February 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM
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You are right. Although Franken is not funny, he is quite laughable.
bloggless on February 14, 2009 at 9:27 AM
How many of the previously counted ballots violated the rules that the Court has now put in place?
eaglewingz08 on February 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Reagan vs. Obama in their own words.
If you need a stimulus on thought.
Mr. Joe on February 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Minnesotans are the morons.
csdeven on February 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM
The truth is, this is an embarrassment for the republicans. How did they get themselves into the situation where a clueless, corrupt has-been comedian leads in the vote?
Hint: abandoning conservatism didn’t help.
Zorro on February 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM
What does a Franken voter look like, from a demographic perspective?
MSGTAS on February 14, 2009 at 9:19 AM
This is a generalization of course,but
most I know come from 3 types: Mpls/St.Paul urban yups,artsy types,arrogant and condescending like Stephen Fowler on Wifeswap. Second,college kids,who vote twice,kids without a thought in their heads,who like to drink way too much and get really sick and puke a lot,who poop on the flag and think it’s funny, and wear red anarchist shoelaces..
Third, Iron Rangers who would beat the heck out of arrogant urbanites and flag poopers,if they got crossed by them ,BUT- who have an old,almost ancient problem here in Minnesota:they still think the Democrats are “fer da workin’man.” They are trade unionists to the core. They have seen their way of life take a slide when the Iron mines shut down or downsized,and with the help of lifers like Rep. Oberstar,they solely blame the ‘fat cat’ Republicans.
Short of hitting them over the head with a brick, there is no earthly way of changing their minds.
Of the three groups,I vastly prefer the Rangers,because they are by and large,very kind,good-hearted folks.They have common sense in other areas,but are just politically challenged.The other two groups are facistically inclined,and want all-democrats,all-the-time.I have no use for people who believe in a one party state,or who want chaos to rule.
I’m not a big fan of Norm,but I wish he had let Franken hit him, up on that stage in Duluth,(when Franken’s wife had to come up and get him.)One black eye,Norm, and you would be in DC voting against the Porkulous bill! (or would he?..)
lizzee on February 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Not sure, but as individuals, (and after doing a Google search of “Minnesotan morons” I came up with these images) exactly like this.
And this.
And this. CONTENT WARNING!!!!!!
csdeven on February 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM
If Minnesota had held a run-off election, the results would be in by now. And it probably would have cost as much as what the lawyers are charging.
GarandFan on February 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM
I agree with your analysis, but I think the iron rangers are dumber than what you portrayed them as. When the iron mining did close down, and everyone knew it was over, these dumb asses stayed up there and expected the government to take of them, which it did. Why didn’t they go where the money is? To the twin cities? Stupid and lazy is the answer. The twin cities is an employment magnet for MN and the surrounding states.
The twin cities had/has a lot of dynamite companies and Minnesotans alone couldn’t have made that happen. How do I know this? Not a native Minnesotan.
cjs1943 on February 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM
I don’t care what it takes, the longer frankenslime isn’t our Senator, the better.
oakpack on February 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM
cjs1943 on February 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM
You may be right,cjs!
I have many friends who live upon the Range,as well as my 91 year old (republican) father, and my recently deceased 56 year old miner-brother,so I admit to being prejudiced!
lizzee on February 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Franken is right up there with Daschle – I just hate ‘em. I want them to lose; period. I realize that’s childish, but they bring out the worst in me. Their imagined superiority, combined with their actual inferiority drive me crazy.
Squiggy on February 15, 2009 at 7:00 AM
This should have never gotten this far. It should have been a blowout of historic proportions. Franken-stein should have been running for cover with his tail between his legs like the maggotty piece of turd that he is. I am embarrassed for Minnesotans. They really are morons . . . letting it get this close.
DuctTapeMyBrain on February 16, 2009 at 8:43 AM