Flashback: Obama promises to allow five days of public comment before signing bills
posted at 8:20 pm on February 14, 2009 by Allahpundit
An oldie but goodie courtesy of aptly-named commenter “democratslied.” The final draft of the stimulus was posted on the White House website for comment Friday afternoon. Word came down today that The One plans to sign it on Tuesday. You do the math. Politifact already busted him for breaking this promise, in fact, when he signed SCHIP before the five-day waiting period had expired. But who cares? It was a sham promise from the moment it escaped his lips. Does anyone seriously believe some commenter’s going to deter him from signing New Deal II when weeks’ worth of angry phone calls to Congress haven’t? This is the sort of empty gesture that means a lot to people who don’t pay much attention to politics but want to “feel good” about government again — in other words, to the average Obama cultist. Note to The One: If you really give a wet dump about transparency, try relaxing your manufactured “emergency” deadlines so that our representatives can read a trillion-dollar spending bill before they vote on it.
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Is it wrong to pull out the “chimpyMcObamaHitler” signs now? And will it be considered racist?
/grins
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Seven Percent Solution on February 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM
You know as well as I do that Soros’ baby has already been born.
Cody1991 on February 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Hopey McChange?
MB4 on February 14, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Which is exactly why we [legislators, the general public at large, your mom] should take our time and actually read it.
You know, just to see what it says.
Fish on February 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM
1) A bang.
2) A whimper.
MB4 on February 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Or maybe a bang and then a whimper?
“Yessir, General Petraeus, we have secured the White House; President for Life Ogabe has been neutralized.”
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Well, one more Obamunist promise he’s broken, in less than 3 weeks. How many things has he stepped aside on so far?
Someone got a link on how many lies he’s told so far?
JP1986UM on February 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Will there even be any sort of military left once He’s done?
I’m taking another trip down to Costa Rica on March 1st. While you guys are locking and loading, I’m gonna check out some real estate down there. Never in my life did I think I’d say that or want to leave this great country.
Knucklehead on February 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Is this the Hope and Change the American people voted for?
DL13 on February 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM
My fear is, we will start having serious military recruiting problems. No one is going to sign up for this douche! And all of our current soldiers are not going to re-enlist. This is going to be awful…
JAM on February 14, 2009 at 10:46 PM
He is who we thought he was. A fraud. From Chicago no less. Once bitten, America.
BHO Jonestown on February 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM
While you guys are locking and loading, I’m gonna check out some real estate down there
If the Obama hits the fan, how are you going to get there? Maybe you want to think domestic?
I’ve always had a disaster bag packed, but it’s really growing in size lately.
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Ya’ll are all welcome in Texas. Heck I might even let ya pitch a tent!
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Scum…
RalphyBoy on February 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM
My son is a commercial pilot for Jet Blue and mom flies free. Sonny also worked for a private charter service when he got furloughed after 9/11 and remains good friends with the owner.
I thought I was the only one who keeps my luggage packed at all times for emergencies! And I never leave the house anymore without my passport….LOL.
Hey Mojo, give me an address, I’m sick of the cold here in Chicago. Tents work for me!
Knucklehead on February 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM
This “presidency” will be known as the “Oh….Shit!!” presidency.
The people who voted for him will be wondering what the hell is happening while others hunker down.
In less than a month, president “Shuck-and-Jive” has shown us what to expect….. nothing. He’s on permanent vacation, campaign mode (which is what Pelosi wants), legislators pay no attention to the electorate, and we are left on our own to deal with the consequences.
Cody1991 on February 14, 2009 at 11:20 PM
MB4 on February 14, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Ya’ll are all welcome in Texas. Heck I might even let ya pitch a tent!
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I can’t deal with the man-eating spiders and car sized scorpions.
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 11:23 PM
When you get to Gilmer turn right(west) and continue until you are in the middle of nowhere, my little compound is on the right, but watch out for Mojo…and make sure to use the secret honk so I don’t accidentally open fire.
With a name like Knucklehead I’m assuming you’ll be on a Harley, just park it between mine.
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 11:27 PM
This “presidency” will be known as the “Oh….Shit!!” presidency.
Thing is, we will find out what the latest “Oh shit” is from the occasional group of survivors who wander past.
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I finally got all the brown recluse spiders killed off here…you’ll have to fend for yourself with the scorpions though.
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 11:28 PM
I thought I was the only one who keeps my luggage packed at all times for emergencies! And I never leave the house anymore without my passport….LOL.
Go bags for the family, truck never less than 3/4 gas tank and a utility rifle in the back. Most everything else is at the cabin.
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 11:31 PM
And another thing…I heard the other day that I-35 down around Austin was shut down on account of roving bands of zombies…we didn’t have a zombie problem when Bush was in office! Another good reason to keep a good firearm in the car/truck at all times!
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Knucklehead is my black lab. Can he come too and play with Mojo? I can deal with spiders but I have a problem with snakes.
Tent packed, air mattress packed.
Knucklehead on February 14, 2009 at 11:37 PM
If it does hit the fan, our military are sworn to uphold the constitution. They take their orders from the POTUS unless or until he defies it. Not to mention the military consist of our husbands, brothers, neighbors, daughters and so on. Loyalty will be an interesting issue when their loved ones are in danger here at home.
Am I wrong or am I on to something?
katy on February 14, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Thing is, we will find out what the latest “Oh shit” is from the occasional group of survivors who wander past.
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I already know who they are. I just want to get out of their way. I don’t care who they are or what happened to them. If they voted for this jackass, they deserve what they get. The problem for the rest of us is that we’re left dealing with it.
Cody1991 on February 14, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Dead on, and I would imagine there’s plenty of us who believe that the oath didn’t end when we left the military.
So I’m not the only one who stole his dogs name for online use! Bring ol’ Knucklehead down, Mojo loves to play. Hopefully Knucklehead isn’t a female or at least fixed…not sure what a DoberLab would look like…
BadMojo on February 14, 2009 at 11:43 PM
He’s a liar, Just like any other Shitcago politician.
tx2654 on February 14, 2009 at 11:47 PM
I’d love to say you’re onto something, but all of the moonbats that I’m surrounded by have only one loyalty and that’s to the One. I thought things would quiet down once the election was over, but the moonbats seem to have gotten worse since the coronation here in Chicago.
But then again that could all change when those big checks, mortgage payments and full tanks of gas fail to appear.
Knucklehead on February 14, 2009 at 11:48 PM
katy on February 14, 2009 at 11:38 PM
The 22nd Amendment would be the place to start; things are moving fast, and considering the onslaught of FDR/Ogabe comparisons, this could come into play.
What are the chances of this being said eventually: “Should we really by changing Presidents in the middle of a huge economic crisis?”
Bishop on February 14, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Knucklehead is de-nutted and an old man but loves to run and play with ALL dogs.
Dog food, water bowl, dog bed is always packed in the car. After Costa Rica, I’m ready and will be down LOL. Between the lefty loons and the crappy weather, I gotta get out of here.
Knucklehead on February 14, 2009 at 11:57 PM
That’s what I’m waiting to see. Who are they going to take it out on when it doesn’t happen.
cjs1943 on February 14, 2009 at 11:59 PM
America doesn’t want sunshine. America wants the wool pulled over its eyes. It gleefully elects a man it knows nothing about who then sells it a bill no one has read. Willful ignorance.
Disturb the Universe on February 15, 2009 at 12:00 AM
The thing that would precipitate your scenario wouldn’t as much be a decision by any one or any group. It would probably come about because of an attack or complete civilian chaos that’s coming ie food shortages, energy/utility shortages and the like. That’s where the question of loyalty will come up. When orders are given to the military to act against American civilians, what will the majority of them do?
katy on February 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM
1. Friday 2. Saturday 3. Sunday 4. Monday 5. Tuesday
Could liberals claim that Obama hasn’t broken his promise?
chansen9 on February 15, 2009 at 12:10 AM
But are we really in a huge economic crisis or a manufactured one? I know that jobs are being lost and my investments are going down the crapper, but I don’t know of anyone in the Chicago area that’s actually lost their job or knows someone who has, and no one is behind in their association fee’s in the complex I manage and live in.
This so called “emergency situation” doesn’t seem nearly as bad as what we went thru in 1980-1982. Maybe I’ve got my blinders on……or my head in the sand.
Knucklehead on February 15, 2009 at 12:21 AM
In the words of Bob Grant, the original radio conservative talker:
I DEEEESPPPISSEEEEEEEEE THEM
blatantblue on February 15, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Well, that’s what happens when you fritter away opportunities.
Anyway, I scanned the thread looking for comments from our resident lefties. Didn’t find much. Not surprising.
ddrintn on February 15, 2009 at 12:41 AM
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71)
This is deliberately in contrast to another oath that was to the head of state.
“I swear by God this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, supreme commander of the armed forces, and that I shall at all times be ready, as a brave soldier, to give my life for this oath.”
MB4 on February 15, 2009 at 1:08 AM
“I swear by Karl Marx this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Barack Obama, the Messiah of the ACORN Reich and it’s subjects, supreme ruler of all that he surveys and that I shall at all times be ready, as a zombie sheeple, to give my life for this oath.” (Rahm Emanuel Form 666)
MB4 on February 15, 2009 at 1:14 AM
why does politifact only have one ‘promise broken’? What about dropping lobbyists? what about ‘change’?
Phoenician on February 15, 2009 at 1:30 AM
As much as I would love to bust his chops on this he covered his own butt.
His promise say NON EMERGENCY legislation and in the first few paragraphs of the bill this is defined as a piece of emergency legislation.
The real issue here is that his crack WH web team has been forever finally figuring out how to work with the website from inside the WH because of security restrictions on the interior networks.
Looks like they gave up and are using a web development team outside the WH to finally get the site working just last week.
They couldn’t get the Lilly Ledbetter law or Delay of Digital TV up in time , but the fools then put them up for comment AFTER they were signed into law. DUH!
CommentGuy on February 15, 2009 at 1:41 AM
How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?
Four.
Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg.
- Abraham Lincoln
MB4 on February 15, 2009 at 1:49 AM
What are we wagering that the reason for signing the bill on Tuesday rather than Monday is to “skirt” the issue about his openness about the bill?
I can hear KO now…”Republicans can’t even count to 5…Friday…until today!!! HHMMMM…that sounds like FIVE DAYS!!”
HarryStar on February 15, 2009 at 1:54 AM
He is a liar. He hasn’t kept one promise for the Kool-Aid drinkers. Does that bother them? Probably not. They have no brain any way. Not a surprise, look how he won the election. Bought his way in.
sheebe on February 15, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Where is that original post AP where you said all his campaign promises come with an expiration date?
clancy_wiggum on February 15, 2009 at 3:42 AM
It’s kinda hard to evoke the “emergency clause”, allowing him to
bypass Congress
When he asked the Congress to write the bill!.
DSchoen on February 15, 2009 at 5:09 AM
If anyone is surprised that this big-eared fool is a goddmaned liar, they should join all the idiots who voted for him sitting in the corner wearing a dunce cap. He comes from the large bowel of chicago politics so what else could he be but the joy of dung beetles?
jsanderssr on February 15, 2009 at 6:01 AM
chansen9
1. Friday 2. Saturday 3. Sunday 4. Monday 5. Tuesday
Could liberals claim that Obama hasn’t broken his promise?
Uhm, not really. A “day” is 24 hours.
Clearly The BILL passed “LATE” Friday night, can not be a counted as a “24 hr day”
Same for Tuesday.
However, The point of the 5 day waiting period was for Obama AND “The People” to read AND Comment on the bill.
Presumably Obama had not read the Bill and has not decided if he will or will not sigh ANY Bill, He is asking for your input on the Bill.
Clearly Obama, by stating he “WILL” sigh this Bill on Tuesday.
This tells us YOUR input/comment is not wanted, respected OR needed, and has NO bearing on this Bill or any other Bill.
White House Web Allow five days of public comment before signing bills
To reduce bills rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them, Obama “will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.”
DSchoen on February 15, 2009 at 6:13 AM
Help me here people…Is this guy more like Stalin, Lenin,or Hitler, or a greatest hits of all three rolled into one???????????
adamsmith on February 15, 2009 at 6:50 AM
The fairy tale “The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf” tells us there is a price to be paid for falsely putting people in crisis mode.
Done That on February 15, 2009 at 6:58 AM
He lied? Are you sure? I’m..I’m..SHOCKED!
tgillian on February 15, 2009 at 7:53 AM
Don’t worry, they’re just a group of community organizers…
Red State State of Mind on February 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM
Chicago thug-like, similar to Stalin
Charms the intellectual elites like Lenin
Charismatic speaker like Hitler
Red State State of Mind on February 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM
I was tempted post something along the lines of..”meh, this is news how?” But I realize this charlatan MUST be exposed by any means possible, so thanks for puttin it up AP….(NY Conservative is off to have Mylanta and Pepto for Sunday Breakfast).
NY Conservative on February 15, 2009 at 9:00 AM
I’m not worried. John McCain assured me Obama was a good man so I trust him.
angryed on February 15, 2009 at 9:02 AM
To all the morons who voted for this Chicago political hack, and to those who keep electing the crooks in Congress, you deserve the social and political slavery you’re about to experience. When the handouts are finished and you’re left with nothing again, some education and a job might be your next coarse of action. The sad thing is, the rest of us have to go along for the ride. The road will be rough, but “we’ll” be free.
hopefloats on February 15, 2009 at 9:50 AM
I find it curious that everytime I turn on the news, I see a report on where Obama is having dinner, or who he is having over for cocktails, or which teen idol is coming to the Whitehouse to entertain the girls. Is Obama somehow under the impression that this is just a four year, taxpayer funded party for him? Since when is the Presidency supposed to be looked upon as a 40 hour work week?
“Excuse me, Mr Ahmadinnerjacket, but you’ll have to plan your nuclear attack during regular business hours”
anniekc on February 15, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Amen to that. This thing was a big emergency. BIG. Well? Where TF is he? He’s out shopping with his freakin wife taking weekends off. Well, just sit by and watch another power rise up then. We, the U.S., can’t afford to be slacking like this.
He’d also better get a feel for what happened with two satellites colliding and what will happen when the telecom systems go down if they go down as a reult.
Well, big emergency. Here we are. All sitting in our homes waiting. People losing jobs daily.
Oh and by the way, my bailed out bank, just cancelled some of its services to the customers.
recall, Bush sat up all night waiting to help Terry Shievo’s case. That was an emergency and treated as such. The outcome sucked, but still that how you act in an emergency. You dont go on a weekend holiday shopping spree and brag how big a President you are.
johnnyU on February 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM
I don’t get it– it’s like you think he should be held to his promises!
morganfrost on February 15, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Apparently it was much easier to read a menu this weekend as opposed to the stimulus bill. As disgraceful and appalling as it is to watch this man treat his new role as a vehicle for celebrity, it will also be his downfall.
sherry on February 15, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Incompetent, corrupt, unqualified, unaccomplished liar.
Exactly what I thought about him all along.
NoDonkey on February 15, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Man with funny name and jug ears speak with forked tongue.
Old Republican Proverb
bullseye on February 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Has anyone left a comment on the website?
dish on February 15, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I was wondering, because, God help us, I was actually concerned about the White House having access to my IP and email address.
I’m torn between my desire to be anonymous and screaming from the rooftops…
dish on February 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Well, I was enlisted Navy, but the meaning of the oath was the same.
oldleprechaun on February 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Im not sure what the big deal on S-chip is, this bill has been in congress for months and months. As for the stimulus bill I’m not sure how you could be uneducated about the bill after wall to wall coverage of the bill from rightwing and leftwing perspectives. The whole bill is on the internet and people can read it. The 5 days number was a foolish benchmark and he shouldn’t have issued it because now he looks dumb for violating the letter of the law, but the spirit is maintained.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Thanks to the economy for being in such a horrible place, no one can afford to get out…its a steady paycheck…
cappy718 on February 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Any odds on Obama pulling out the veto on this?
I was mulling that maneuver over last night. Not likely, but wouldn’t that be interesting?
DWB on February 15, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Obama
He isnt the messiah for he cant even remember what he said 4 months ago..
even when its on video..
Just like ALL the liberals
You catch them on video lying (the whole banking mess) started thanks to barney franks and the liberals..
And they will swear to you on video that
TRhat isnt me on there… or you got it all out of context..
But they didnt have any problem blaming veitnam on president bush…
Liberals they are all disgusting..
Oh yea and that bit about the run on 401k’s also starting this crash..
It was started by either Rich liberals
or communist china and russia in order to TRICK americans into voting for an empty suit named
OBAMA
jcila on February 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I knew it was a crazy thought. Tuesday will be the day Obama signs this mess.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11706425
DWB on February 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM
DeathToMediaHacks
“Im not sure what the big deal on S-chip is, this bill has been in congress for months and months”
Try this, No one believes it will really work and therefore no one is willing to use taxpayer’s dollars to pay for it.
After all, if it were a GOOD program, that will HELP Children, wouldn’t ALL Americans WANT TO PAY FOR THAT?
Now Obama sighed it with “it will be paid for by a cigarette tax”
Really?
What mathematically challenged mental midget can’t figure out that the number of smokers is going down and the number of children is going up.
Even Jethro Bodine could figure this one out, there not going to be enough smokers to fund this program, and the program won’t die, therefore you and I will have to fund it.
Simple basic honesty is what I expect from Obama, and on this he failed to deliver.
. “As for the stimulus bill I’m not sure how you could be uneducated about the bill after wall to wall coverage of the bill from rightwing and leftwing perspectives”
Uhm the bill wasn’t written till Friday night. How could you be educated a bill you have not read?
The links on http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/arra_public_review/
2 of the 4 don’t work
“http://www.house.gov/billtext/hr1_legtest_cr.pdf
The requested page could not be found
· If you arrived here by selecting a link provided by a site other than the U.S. House of Representatives, please notify the originating site of this error.
· If you arrived here by typing in a specific URL, please make sure the spelling, capitalization, and punctuation are correct.”
Uhm what was used was the link Obama provided.
Division B locks up at around 3 meg (tried on 2 different computers)
DIVISION A – APPROPRIATIONS PROVISIONS
NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE
WATERSHED AND FLOOD PREVENTION OPERATIONS
The conference agreement provides $290,000,000 for the Watershed and Flood
Prevention Operations program instead of $350,000,000 as proposed by the House and
$275,000,000 as proposed by the Senate.
Ofthe total amount, $145,000,000 is for purchasing and restoring floodplain
easements under the authorities
yadayada
Who EXACTLY asked for it
Where EXACTLY is this money going to be spent.
What EXACTLY is this money going to be spent on.
Who where and what is what Obama PROMISED we would see BEFORE he sighed on anything.
There are thousands of pages with things like the above.
Bottom line the bill in total, IS NOT ON LINE.
What is on line does not give enough info to make ANY judgment about it.
. “The whole bill is on the internet and people can read it. The 5 days number was a foolish benchmark and he shouldn’t have issued it because now he looks dumb for violating the letter of the law, but the spirit is maintained.”
Sorry but he violated the letter and the spirit of his OWN guidelines.
If there were a Nobel Prize for Hypocrisy, Obama would win it hands down!
DSchoen on February 15, 2009 at 6:36 PM
See. He promised change, this is change.
Our old president didn’t lie to us.
29Victor on February 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Ain’t enough sunlight to disinfect this administration; it’s a stinker.
redfoxbluestate on February 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Pardonme but when are we going to learn how to listen to the words Pres Obama uses? He is more clever than Clinton ever hoped to be with his: “it depends on what the meaning of is, is”. Obama can not help himself. For instance, look at how he says he will save OR create 4 million jobs. At the end of the day he gets to do the counting not us. When they tells us that we created X number of jobs, he will tell us he also SAVED X + 4 million jobs and we will not be able to dispute the number. Clever, you bet!
Pardonme on February 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM
From what I see, “His Emptiness” is not really in charge of anything, yet. Answering questions from a tele-prompter? The “Campaigner in Chief” has to have some one answer the questions for him and send it to the tele-prompter.
Who is really standing in for the U.S. Presidency? Plain to see it’s not Obama.
Cybergeezer on February 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM
further proof that every Obama promise comes with an expiration date which judging from his record was November 5th
pc25 on February 16, 2009 at 12:37 PM
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