Yo, Arlen. Couple o’ guys want a word wit’ ya.

posted at 11:10 am on February 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Arlen Specter better check in with the neighborhood, because they’re not too happy with him after his vote on Porkulus.  Rasmussen detects a significant shift in support for Specter, and not one that will help him win re-election in 2010:

Senator Arlen Specter is one of only three Republicans to support the economic stimulus bill in Congress, and the latest Rasmussen Reports survey in Pennsylvania shows that his position is costing him support back home.

Just 31% of Keystone State voters say are more likely to vote for Specter because of his position on the stimulus package while 40% are less likely to do so.

A look inside the numbers shows the problem for Specter may be even more significant. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Republican voters in the state are less likely to vote for Specter. Among voters not affiliated with either major party, just 27% are more likely to support the long-time incumbent while 48% are less likely to do so.

The Republican fade is certainly expected, but the drop in independent support is instructive.  We keep hearing about how the opposition to Porkulus is a Republican “war” on Barack Obama.  If so, wouldn’t independents then be more likely to support Specter’s independence from his caucus?

As it turns out, independents aren’t sold on Porkulus, either.  Rasmussen detected an uptick in support for the bill after Obama’s prime-time presser on Monday, but only by four points overall, 44-40%.  Unaffiliated voters still opposed it, though, 46-40%, a wider margin than Rasmussen detected for overall support.  And demographics on income levels are particularly interesting.   Porkulus gets majority support in the under-$20K income level (61-21%) and $20-39K level (52-35%).  Every other level opposes Porkulus, including a majority among those making six figures or more.

Pennsylvania voters are telling Specter to oppose Porkulus.  If you want to make that message more personal, call his office at 202-224-4254, or fax him at 202-228-1229.


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Interesting, because Arlen can’t depend on getting 200% of Philadelphia voters to cast ballots for him, since he’s a “republican” (in name only, of course).

I’m thinking this old mutt is about done anyway, he has severe health problems, so maybe he doesn’t care.

NoDonkey on February 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Good!

hawkdriver on February 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM

He must know by now there will probably be a conservative challenger, even if no one has declared yet. It’s just whether the person would be a credible threat to Arlen. Bush and Santorum won’t drag Arlen’s sorry butt across the primary line this time.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I don’t understand the man at all. He made a career of out of dissing Bush over slightest of pretexts but now caves in to Obama over such a large transformational bill.

promachus on February 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Michael Steele should pull all RNC support for his re-election. No financial support. Nip this turd in the bud.

portlandon on February 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Give it a rest…

Specter said he does not care what his people say or that we have called 100 to 1 against. We are stupid, he is smart.

We are toast and might as well give up…

Most Americans do not care.

Specter, like Snowe and Collins and Murtha and others keep getting re-elected no matter what they say or do…

Term Limits anyone?

/depressed

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Here are the instate offices. Specter’s website had been difficult to access this morning. Perhaps due to getting swamped?

Lehigh Valley
504 W. Hamilton
Suite 3814, Federal Building
Allentown, PA 18101
Main: 610-434-1444
Fax: 610-434-1844

Erie
17 South Park Row
Federal Building, Suite B-120
Erie, PA 16501
Main: 814-453-3010
Fax: 814-455-9925

Harrisburg
228 Walnut Street
Room 1104, Federal Building
Harrisburg , PA 17101
Main: 717-782-3951
Fax: 717-782-4920

Philadelphia
600 Arch Street
Suite 9400
Philadelphia , PA 19106
Main: 215-597-7200
Fax: 215-597-0406

Pittsburgh
425 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1450
Regional Enterprise Tower (old Alcoa Building)
Pittsburgh , PA 15219
Main: 412-644-3400
Fax: 412-644-4871

Scranton
310 Spruce Street
Suite 201
Scranton , PA 18503
Main: 570-346-2006
Fax: 570-346-8499

Wilkes-Barre
7 North Wilkes Barre Boulevard
Stegmaier Building, Room 377M
Wilkes-Barre , PA 18702
Main: 570-826-6265
Fax: 570-826-6266

INC on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Me thinks someone has a Megyn crush…

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM

INC on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Give up… He and they (congress) do not care what the people say or think anymore.

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I cannot wait for 2010. Hopefully we can field a credible oppostion Republican to go after him, Collins and Snowe… and every other G-ddamned RINO.

With Gregg openly opposing the crap sandwich and Kennedy not voting, we could theoretically filibuster if only these three would go along. UGH!

J.J. Sefton on February 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

It will never happen, and as for taking back the country when the dems finally go for the endgame, you gun owners can chew on this:

House Bill H.R. 45

1. Require licensing for anybody that owns a gun.

2. Would require photographs and a thumbprint

3. Would require passage of a test that covers:

(A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;

(B) the safe handling of firearms;

(C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use;

(D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and

(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:19 AM

This sort of argument always has to be approached carefully. I’m sure if you polled Maine or New Hampshire, you’d see the opposite mandate (voting for the stimulus). Does that mean we’d want Gregg, Snowe and Collins to vote for this beast? Absolutely not.
Ultimately, these guys have to vote their conscience and then convince their constituents that they did the wrong things. Good luck with that, Arlen.

Trent1289 on February 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

And to think there was no reason Arlen who admits this was all too fast, had to step into this other than his big, fat ego needing to feel important and apart of the game.

Topsecretk9 on February 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Does moderation consist of checking only conservative excesses but not liberal excesses?

promachus on February 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

With all these voters disgusted with him, Arlen sure wont be wooed anymore by the White House.

No more wining and dining!

becki51758 on February 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM

The Party which robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul’s vote. Spread the misery Libs. You’ll pay in 2010.

marklmail on February 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Just 31% of Keystone State voters say are more likely to vote for Specter because of his position on the stimulus package while 40% are less likely to do so.

A look inside the numbers shows the problem for Specter may be even more significant. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Republican voters in the state are less likely to vote for Specter. Among voters not affiliated with either major party, just 27% are more likely to support the long-time incumbent while 48% are less likely to do so.

Odd. Wasn’t Allah telling us that 68% of our nitwit fellow voters loved the PorkFest? What gives?

Porkulus gets majority support in the under-$20K income level (61-21%) and $20-39K level (52-35%). Every other level opposes Porkulus, including a majority among those making six figures or more.

This one’s not too hard, is it? If you steal from Peter to give to Paul, you will always be able to count on Paul’s support.

Jaibones on February 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM

marklmail on February 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Separated at birth.

Jaibones on February 13, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Arlen Specter is certainly despicable for his support for this terrible Generational Theft Act – especially after the report that almost no Senator will be able to actually read about what is in the bill before voting on it. However, he is just one of over 60 corrupt, self-serving nitwits who are going to vote for it. Our government has grown beyond caring what people think.

There is a train speeding down the track and we are all standing right on the rails. It is coming.

What is it going to take to spur the 1/3 of this country who actually wants to be free to take action? What does this government have to do in order to cross the line? Are we only waiting for some charismatic leader to inspire that action? Freedom is dying in this country. It pains me to say this, but we are a socialist country now (not that we weren’t before, but with this bill, the die will have been cast).

Curse those in Congress who will vote for this destructive act. Curse them!

Down with the People’s Republic of America!

King of the Britons on February 13, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM

No.

INC on February 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

…and not one that will help him win re-election in 2010

We can only hope. Is there anyone in the GOP pipeline up there who can run against this turd and actually get elected?

BacaDog on February 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Me thinks someone has a Megyn crush…

Actually, I do.

Birdseye on February 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM

No.

INC on February 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Agree! Thanks for posting the info. I called Spector’s PGH office and left a message. I urge everyone to do the same. Stop complaining and do something.

conservative pilgrim on February 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Specter said he does not care what his people say or that we have called 100 to 1 against. We are stupid, he is smart.

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I bet Specter talked to some guy in the locker room of his gym about the stimulus and the dude was all for it.

[Humor explanation: Specter made a statement like this as his reason for supporting shamnesty.]

thuja on February 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Pennsylvania voters are telling Specter to oppose Porkulus.

Americans are notorius for their short attention span, myself included. It remains to be seen if his constituency remembers any of this in Nov. 2010.

Myself. I’m looking forward to replacing McCain with a conservative we can count on in Arizona.

Mr_Magoo on February 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM

…and not one that will help him win re-election in 2010
We can only hope. Is there anyone in the GOP pipeline up there who can run against this turd and actually get elected?

BacaDog on February 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

More Challengers for Specter? [Mark Hemingway]

There’s this from NRO:

Word is that some in the GOP have been trying to nudge Pat Toomey out of the Pennsylvania governor’s race and challenge Specter for his seat in 2010. Well, now there are rumors that Specter might face another serious challenger — Pittsburgh entrepreneur Glen Meakem. Meakem is independently wealthy and has his own talk radio show and newspaper column. A well-connected GOP source in Pennsylvania tells me that this should “scare the HECK out of Specter.” Meakem has already issued a press release blasting Specter for his compromise on the recent spending bill. He also told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, “I’m not a candidate at this time, but I’m absolutely committed to see that there is a challenge,” Mr. Meakem said.

Also considering a run at Specter is Peg Luksik, who most recently served as campaign manager for Bill Russell, the Congressional candidate who came within a hair’s breadth of defeating John Murtha. She doesn’t quite have the resources or recognition that Meakam does, but she is savvy and a fixture in the Pennsylvania GOP.

(h/t to GrassrootsPA, which is generally a great source for following Pennsylvania politics)

02/11 01:25 PM

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM

King of the Britons on February 13, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Take heart, there may not be a mob of pitchforkers standing before Congress, but there are tens of millions of people making their own plans to resist this abomination (I’m talking about the President and the stimucrap bill).

The manner of resistance may be small per individual, but the cumulative effect will be awesome. I’ll be damned if I’m going to let my business or family be crushed without taking a stand.

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I can hardly wait. Will this be retroactive I wonder?
If I fail the gun test will my guns be confiscated?
‘I lost the 20 rifles I am registered under’ Oops.
*My cold dead hands*

Badger40 on February 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

And to think there was no reason Arlen who admits this was all too fast, had to step into this other than his big, fat ego needing to feel important and apart of the game.

Topsecretk9 on February 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

The Senate is loaded with people who thought they were going to be President, and think they’re the brightest bulb in the room. Defeated, they settle for minor fiefdoms. It’s as if Specter is screaming,”you will listen to me.” I think he cares about that much more than re-election, and I don’t think he will be well enough that much longer in any case.

JiangxiDad on February 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

We can only hope. Is there anyone in the GOP pipeline up there who can run against this turd and actually get elected?

BacaDog on February 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

I suspect part of the quid pro quo package offered him by the donks was financial help in 2010. Is PA an open or closed primary? If open, they may have even offered some cross over help.

a capella on February 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

I’m an independent, and I will become a Republican when they act like Republicans. They spend as badly as the Democrats, so why should I sign up? Where is fiscal conservatism? Where is the PR effort to educate the public on the relationship between big government and freedom?

Walk the talk, and I’ll sign up. Otherwise I stay on the fence.

PattyJ on February 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Is this bill set to pass. He said yesterday if the health care provision was in it he wouldn’t vote for it. Can anyone show him the health care provision so he can vote against it.

Brat4life on February 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Mark, I understand and share your frustration. I plead with you not to give up the fight. You may feel that no one is listening and you may be right. However it is our duty not only to ourselves, but to our families and our country to stand united and don’t go wobbly on this. No matter how many emails, faxes, or phone calls it takes keep fighting. If we just bend over and take it and have not done anything to voice our outrage about this then, we get what we deserve. On the other hand if we yell, scream, and pitch a fit we may not get what we know is in the best interest of our country but we will be able to stand up and say “I fought the good fight”.
Never give up the fight, because when you do, they know they have you. You come across as a smart man, I believe in you and your ability to convey your message. Don’t let that message fall silent.
We are with you.

milwife88 on February 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Conservatives do not march, we do not demonstrate, we do not riot, we have gutless leadership, we have no voices.

=

The Messiah and the radicals and RINO’s ignoring us.

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Does moderation consist of checking only conservative excesses but not liberal excesses?

promachus on February 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I voted for Specter, and I’ll probably do it again, but this is exactly the problem I have with Specter, Snowe, and Collins right now. They seem to have lost sight of why anyone would support them. I suspect that they are still fighting the battles of 2005 and not getting that there is Democratic President who should be the target of their moderating activities.

thuja on February 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM

If Pennsylvanians have as much influence on their senator as we LUCKY Floridians have with ours, the good people of the Keystone state are flocked.

tree hugging sister on February 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM

No.

INC on February 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Attagirl! Just keep the rubber side down.

a capella on February 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Badger40 on February 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

From what I understand (and the official analysis right now is slim) is that it will be retroactive to a point, something like guns that have been purchased in the last seven years or so.

If it passes, I too will have to inform the G-Men that my guns were lost on a fishing trip, fell into the lake, gone forever. Yessir, I always take all my guns in the boat when I go fishing.

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM

There is zero chance PA elects a republican senator in 2010. Whether Specter or whoever wins the primary, its a lost cause.

PA handed Santorum an 18 point defeat and the state has since turned more democratic.

e-pirate on February 13, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Conservatives do not march, we do not demonstrate, we do not riot, we have gutless leadership, we have no voices.

=

The Messiah and the radicals and RINO’s ignoring us.

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM

My thoughts exactly.

We need to get organized and hold some demonstrations. Until then we are just going to get steam rolled most of the time.

Mr Purple on February 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Elections have consequences, dammit! If your Senator or Representative is not working for you, then put some effort into getting him out of office.

I don’t know that much about Maine voters but I assume they are more liberal than not and if so, I don’t have a problem with Collins and Snowe. They are doing their job. Specter should be replaced. I like the suggestion that if you call his office, tell the staffer that you talk to that the staff will be out of a job come the next election.

Vince on February 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Walk the talk, and I’ll sign up. Otherwise I stay on the fence.
PattyJ on February 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Sit on the fence, die on the fence. The GOP has made its own stumbles, no doubt, but they won’t hear you at all if you’re not speaking.

The GOP is fighting for survival right now, they have a vested interest in listening, the demorats? The will NEVER listen to you.

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM

It appears as though the Senate websites are unavailable. I have tried both of mine (not that it will do much good) and can’t get on…

I got through to Castle to urge him to vote NO.

I’ll keep trying.

Shirley on February 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM

and not one that will help him win re-election in 2010:

Listen, Arlen Specter is going to be lucky if his body holds out to see 2010, much less another six-year senate term.

Does the Republican party really want to nominate someone who’s going to be almost 90 at the end of the prospective term in question?

Do the people of Pennsylvania?

Arlen doesn’t have much to lose, really.

BigD on February 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM

The personification of the argument for term limits

-The Sheikh

blatantblue on February 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM

*** (takes off tag of “Internet Warrior” given to him by MadisonConservative, walks over to trash can, opens lid, tosses it inside, walks towards door, picks up pitchfork, opens door, walks towards Washington, humming “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” and breaking into a rousing chorus of “God Bless America”)

Time for talk is over folks. We never act. We never demonstrate. Where is our Million Man march? Where is the civil obedience? Why are we not on TV’s all across America demanding to be heard? Where is the RNC? I’m upset!

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Specter’s web page is down again. He must either be getting flooded or it’s the moral equivalent of holding one’s hands to one’s ears.

He, Snowe and Collins should be given a full court press from Steele, McConnell and whatever Republican leadership there is.

VOTE NO

J.J. Sefton on February 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM

PA handed Santorum an 18 point defeat and the state has since turned more democratic.

e-pirate on February 13, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Santorum lost because the extremism of his ideas on social issues finally caught up with him. Republican women from the suburbs knew Santorum’s ideas about gay people, like comparing homosexuality and bestiality, and they thought Santorum was a freak. A reasonable Republican can still win Pennsylvania.

thuja on February 13, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Lou Dobbs is airing some complaints about the porkulus.

JohnJ on February 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I called his Pgh. office the other day, couldn’t get through to his Senate number. Told the little girl who answered that I’m not a Penna. resident but I was born and raised just outside of Pgh. and that I’m now retired with time on my hands and that when the time came I’d drive from Indiana and work my butt off to make sure he doesn’t get re-elected, even if that meant a Democrat would.

Onager on February 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Its interesting that the demographics that support this bill are from the income levels that don’t pay taxes or very little taxes.

Why am I not surprised?

belad on February 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM

It’s been said — we are toast –toss him out and we will get others just like this old f**t ‘cuz everyone is talking about “expanding the party.”

Does anyone still really think this is a center-right country — self-delusion; socialism has prevailed– all we can do is slow it down . . . until we die . . . sorry young’uns you won’t be living in the same country–you WILL be paying for the “new one.”

rebuzz on February 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM

And to think there was no reason Arlen who admits this was all too fast, had to step into this other than his big, fat ego needing to feel important and apart of the game.

Topsecretk9 on February 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

An election in 2010? In a state that Obama carried by 10 points? With a popular governor who is begging for the money and threating massive budget cuts and layoffs if he doesn’t get it?

Jeez, people. Get a clue!

rockmom on February 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

If you want to make that message more personal, call his office…

Sorry, the Senator is out to lunch (permanently).

littleguy on February 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

2010 is a long way away (in politics) and he knows it.

This won’t matter as an issue by then.

Asher on February 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Me thinks someone has a Megyn crush…
ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I know I do, Megyn is HOT!!

DamnYankee on February 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I am beginning to think that the only thing that The Leviathan will respond to is force. The Founders understood human nature well enough to ensure an armed citizenry for that very purpose. It may be time.

King of the Britons on February 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I sent this to Sen Spector at his website:

Senator:

I cannot urge you more strongly to cancel your support for the stimulus bill. This has nothing to do with party politics or ideology. This massive bill will do next to nothing to stimulate the economy, but will grow the government, take a huge step toward socialism, and provide payback for congressional democrats for campaign contributors.

If you were serious about a stimulus that would actually work, and would do so immediately, eliminate the payroll tax for one year, and provide a one year suspension of capital gains and dividend taxes, or a moratorium on corporate income taxes. This will infuse money directly to consumers, producers, and employers, will work immediately, and will grow the economy. Best of all, if it failed to work, it could be canceled quickly, unlike the spending in the current bill.

This is the single most important piece of legislation of your career. You MUST get this one right.

I urge all of you to do the same.

stonemeister on February 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Santorum lost because the extremism of his ideas on social issues finally caught up with him. Republican women from the suburbs knew Santorum’s ideas about gay people, like comparing homosexuality and bestiality, and they thought Santorum was a freak. A reasonable Republican can still win Pennsylvania.

thuja on February 13, 2009 at 11:42 AM

+1

Those women are my neighbors. Terri Schiavo grew up and went to school near here. The locals were FURIOUS about Santorum’s antics on her case. He had a tough fight anyway against Bobby Casey, but his support absolutely collapsed after the Schiavo thing. Casey also hung the stem cell research issue around Santorum’s neck – very unpopular with suburban voters.

However, I must add that Casey is in bed with ACORN and that whole crowd. They went all out to win that election. But they still could not have done it without Santorum’s support in the suburbs collapsing. Specter is still very popular around here and he far outpolled John Kerry in the suburbs in 2004.

Liberals found the wedge issues to drive suburban voters away from the GOP in the last 6 years. But Specter is on the liberal side of all of them.

rockmom on February 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Mark, old buddy old pal; Listen to Rush today. We’ll talk again tonight. An uprising is brewing; more on that later.

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Yeah. That’s the ticket. Only I will say I lost my guns in the blizzards we’ve been having. And my cows ate some of them. Yeah……

Badger40 on February 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM

The 2nd amendment is a tough one for Liberals Bishop. In my state, we have (2) Liberal Senators (Tester & Baucus) that will be thrown out of this state on their behinds if they go after gun ownership in any way-shape-or form… They both know it, as was apparent in their campaign ads.

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM

And demographics on income levels are particularly interesting. Porkulus gets majority support in the under-$20K income level (61-21%) and $20-39K level (52-35%). Every other level opposes Porkulus, including a majority among those making six figures or more.

Says it all. Those seeking greater government control in their lives, more dependent “on government,” support the idea of getting a one-time check or easier seasonal or one-shot “jobs” or similar, like the idea of getting that, while the Americans who understand that their work is going to be charged for all of this, that they’ll be losing more to government in this process, are not supportive of Porkulus.

In other words, Porkulus really is an expansion of welfare, a “new welfare program.” Has nothing to do with “stimulating” anyone except Democrats and their associated enablers, to expand government and further enslave or diminish the American population.

Lourdes on February 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

With a constantly declining population quality, alas, the American electorate is turning into a Roman mob expecting instant gratification even if that ‘manna’ comes from the pockets of those who work for a living.

Politicians know that they always get re-elected by a grateful “mob”-even from jail cells in some instances-so they can sneer as Senator Schumer did about pork in the stimulus which he readily admitted to. Arlen Spector is no different.

Crooked politicians are the effect of the “Roman mob” not the cause of it.

MaiDee on February 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Specter is weak. He’s been tainted by big gov’t for too long. Good riddens.

Jed1899 on February 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Ed, you should include the link to email Spector. Perhaps he may listen, between phone calls and interweb messages and such.

stonemeister on February 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Specter said he does not care what his people say or that we have called 100 to 1 against. We are stupid, he is smart.

We are toast and might as well give up…

Most Americans do not care.

Specter, like Snowe and Collins and Murtha and others keep getting re-elected no matter what they say or do…

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Seriously, not flippantly here, I conclude that Specter’s mind is troubled. He does not display a mental competency (that statement alone, combined with the full range of the rest of his “decisions”). He does appear to be mentally incompetent.

Lourdes on February 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

We need to get organized and hold some demonstrations. Until then we are just going to get steam rolled most of the time.

Mr Purple on February 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Exactly. I’d like to see all the conservative bloggers get together with some real conservative leadership and start organizing marches. The bloggers can provide a “call to arms” and get people moving.

And forget the pitchforks. There was a reason for the 2nd Ammendment… just read the Declaration of Independence.

dominigan on February 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I cannot wait for 2010. Hopefully we can field a credible oppostion Republican to go after him, Collins and Snowe… and every other G-ddamned RINO.

J.J. Sefton on February 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM

In the state that voted Jack “My constituents are racist rednecks” Murtha? Keep dreaming.

Darth Executor on February 13, 2009 at 12:14 PM

This guy deserves to be out of office if he votes for this bill. Quite frankly all politicians that vote for a bill they haven’t read should be out of office.

jencab on February 13, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Bye-bye, Senator Palpatine Specter. Can’t say I’ll miss you all that much when you get taken out in your next primary.

itzWicks on February 13, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Arlen Specter got his start pushing the ‘Single Bullet Theory’ for the Warren Commission (the physics of that theory require a monumental suspension of disbelief).

Just every other member of the House of Lords, Specter is a Major Player in his own, deluded, mind.

SeniorD on February 13, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Us too. Dorgan & Conrad would be voted out on their liberal arses if they messed with the 2nd. Which is why they tread carefully I think, at least at home they don’t say much.
Dorgan also is for the new coal gasification plant in South Heart-even though that’s been stalled for now.

ND is weird-conservative nationally, liberal locally.

Badger40 on February 13, 2009 at 12:22 PM

He’s gone no matter what. He will get the blame when this bill creates a disaster and the democrat will win in his state (I know it makes no sense but these are not rational times or Obama would not have gotten elected based on his ties to Freddie & Fannie). So, we might as well distance from him as much as possible and put someone up to run against him in the primary. This bill is toxic and we want nothing to do with it.

poljunkie on February 13, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I kept sending my email and getting a network error message, but eventually it went through. I also passed the hot air article and contact information along to a number of PA people.

You know what? We just have to fight every.step. Make them sweat for every single inch.

Website:
http://specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm

Dear Senator Specter:

Vote NO on this objectionable so-called ‘stimulus’ bill.

I refer you to the Bloomberg article describing the disastrous, unvetted healthcare provisions slipped into the bill:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

An excerpt:

“Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.

Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).

The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

New Penalties

Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)

What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.”

Senator Specter: Vote NO and protect our citizens’ access to healthcare and freedom to get the treatment they need.

Senator Specter: Vote NO and deny this opportunistic attempt to impose a huge burden of debt upon the citizens that will benefit only those who do not work in the interests of the taxpayers.

Vote NO and deny the outrageous funding of shady voter fraud organization ACORN with our hard earned taxpayer dollars.

Senator: Vote NO and represent the best interests of the citizens of Pennsylvania and the United States.

perries on February 13, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Me thinks someone has a Megyn crush…
ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I know I do, Megyn is HOT!!

DamnYankee on February 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM

LOL. My hubby has a Domenica Davis crush.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM

I will not be voting for Specter, that country club elitist ba$tard. In fact, I will not be voting for anyone unless it is a bonafide conservative. To hell with the GOP and their misguided “moderate” views.

Zorro on February 13, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Specter has already been promised an Operation Chaos to fend off any GOP challengers. He has also been promised minimal opposition in the 2010 general election. He has no reason to doubt the ability of the Democrats to deliver a victory for him next year, as it won’t be the first time they have done so.

jay12 on February 13, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Ed, you should include the link to email Spector. Perhaps he may listen, between phone calls and interweb messages and such.

stonemeister on February 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

there is no getting through to his offices!!!! I’ve been trying for more than a week. And his voicemail box has been full too…

Zorro on February 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Arlen’s base–no, not the RNC, but Philadelphia trial lawyers, virtually all Democrats–are already in emergency fund raising mode to save Arlen’s neck (and his seat). I know, because one of them who is blissfully unaware of my politics invited me to a fundraiser at which Sen. Dodo Bird will speak next week, at a Philly law firm. I won’t be going…

But I will be sending Mike Steele more reminders that he has to choose–my support for any GOP candidate in 2010 or his precious RINO senator from PA.

james23 on February 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM

He must know by now there will probably be a conservative challenger, even if no one has declared yet. It’s just whether the person would be a credible threat to Arlen. Bush and Santorum won’t drag Arlen’s sorry butt across the primary line this time.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Pat Toomey, who nearly beat Arlen last time, and who is a super articulate fiscal conservative (President of Club for Growth) has already been on the radio saying the Porkulus is a disaster and that he is “watching” Specter. Read between the lines, unless Specter falls in line, Toomey will jump in and will be very well funded. that is why Arlen’s lawyer troops in Philly, virtually all Dems, are scrambling to raise money already. Arlen is going down, Bush and Rove can’t help him against a conservative, this time.

james23 on February 13, 2009 at 1:06 PM

there is no getting through to his offices!!!! I’ve been trying for more than a week. And his voicemail box has been full too…

Zorro on February 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM

He answered my email with a robo-response.

jay12 on February 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I have a question for those that want to march on Washington, and I do too. What are the open carry laws in D.C.? I don’t mean handguns, but rifles and shotguns.

cjs1943 on February 13, 2009 at 1:11 PM

I voted for Specter, and I’ll probably do it again, but this is exactly the problem I have with Specter, Snowe, and Collins right now.
thuja on February 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM

You voted for him and will probably do it again, but have a problem with Specter and porkulus?

Here my HA friends is a perfect example of what is wrong with most voters in this country. Here’s a Senator who’s going to flush his constituancy down the toilet, but I’ll just vote for him again

Folks like you have no business bitchen, so just please go away.

Knucklehead on February 13, 2009 at 1:42 PM

there is no getting through to his offices!!!! I’ve been trying for more than a week. And his voicemail box has been full too…

Zorro on February 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM

He answered my email with a robo-response.

jay12 on February 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I just got back from his local office, and I think I got a robo-response there too.

forest on February 13, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I have a question for those that want to march on Washington, and I do too. What are the open carry laws in D.C.? I don’t mean handguns, but rifles and shotguns.

cjs1943 on February 13, 2009 at 1:11 PM

A government paid sniper with a $10,000 JAR will shoot you right between the eyes.

trigon on February 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM

ARLEN–DO THE RIGHT THING.

Mr. Joe on February 13, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Seriously, not flippantly here, I conclude that Specter’s mind is troubled. He does not display a mental competency (that statement alone, combined with the full range of the rest of his “decisions”). He does appear to be mentally incompetent.

Lourdes on February 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I’ve more of a fan of Specter’s politics than most people here, but the truth is that Specter is getting senile. His mind is like of the Reagan in 1987. And he really shouldn’t run for re-election. Sadly, I’ll probably vote for the man anyway. Elections are like that. All of our options are tainted.

I did send Specter a letter urging him not to run again for this reason. Steele and Kaine really need to have the power to encourage some politicians to retire. Perhaps, letters to donors pointing out that politicians like Specter and Byrd have been in office for a long time and it’s time for new blood.

thuja on February 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM

What is the average age of our Reps in DC?? There is an old saying “first thing to go is your judgement”. Begining to think many are suffering with Dementia. Term Limits. I am over 60 and would not vote for anyone older than my Mother.

calgrammy on February 13, 2009 at 2:32 PM

More Challengers for Specter? [Mark Hemingway]

There’s this from NRO:

Word is that some in the GOP have been trying to nudge Pat Toomey out of the Pennsylvania governor’s race and challenge Specter for his seat in 2010. Well, now there are rumors that Specter might face another serious challenger — Pittsburgh entrepreneur Glen Meakem. Meakem is independently wealthy and has his own talk radio show and newspaper column. A well-connected GOP source in Pennsylvania tells me that this should “scare the HECK out of Specter.” Meakem has already issued a press release blasting Specter for his compromise on the recent spending bill. He also told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, “I’m not a candidate at this time, but I’m absolutely committed to see that there is a challenge,” Mr. Meakem said.

Also considering a run at Specter is Peg Luksik, who most recently served as campaign manager for Bill Russell, the Congressional candidate who came within a hair’s breadth of defeating John Murtha. She doesn’t quite have the resources or recognition that Meakam does, but she is savvy and a fixture in the Pennsylvania GOP.

(h/t to GrassrootsPA, which is generally a great source for following Pennsylvania politics)

02/11 01:25 PM
Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I just need to know where to send my check to.

kriscoleman on February 13, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Send him home to Mama, boys…

SuperCool on February 13, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Meh. The election is a year and a half away. The voters of PA will have forgotten all about this by then.

It didn’t even take that long for them to forget the nasty things Murtha said about them. A couple of weeks, tops? And all was forgiven.

People can be pretty stupid. I expect Sphincter to be re-elected over and over until he dies in office.

UltimateBob on February 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM

It’s long past time to fight these brainwashed America haters, and I do mean fight. If we don’t, this country will be TOTALLY destroyed by the indoctrinated useful idiots. Marx has to be laughing in his grave at us.

When does the civil war start?

LET’S ROLL!

BobUSMC on February 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Specter has been impossible to reach the past 5 days. I’ve tried every single office number and the capitol switchboard. Busy every single time, every single hour of the day.

truthmattersfa on February 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM