Reid scavenging for votes

posted at 9:34 am on February 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Can Harry Reid deliver sixty votes in the Senate on Porkulus?  Apparently, not even Reid can answer that question.  According to CNN, Ted Kennedy is too ill to return for the vote, and that means one vote lost from the previous tally could kill the Obama-Pelosi-Reid omnibus stimulus-spending bill:

CNN has learned that one day after securing an agreement on a giant economic stimulus bill that is expected to pass narrowly with the votes of three moderate Republicans, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is calling other Republican centrists trying to persuade more of them to vote for the measure.

He’s looking for additional votes out of an abundance of caution, an aide explained, after learning that ailing Sen. Ted Kennedy, who returned to Capitol Hill for votes earlier this week, has now gone back to Florida to continue his recovery from brain cancer and won’t be here for a final vote on the stimulus bill in the coming days.

With Kennedy here, the Senate version of the bill passed 61-37 – just one vote more than needed.

The math was obvious even last week.  Without at least three Republicans, the bill will die on a procedural vote.  That has already created some hard feelings among House Democrats, who reportedly got rolled in conference this week:

Leading House Democrats were smiling on Thursday, but some of them are furious with the Senate on its handling of the economic stimulus bill.

Even though House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) praised the $789 billion conference legislation, talks between the chambers have clearly left some battle scars.

And House Democrats are vowing that from now on, things will be different.

“We will tell the Senate Democratic leadership to let the GOP filibuster,” a House leadership aide said. “The House is not going to move on what the Senate passes and give in during conference like we have been doing.

None of this would have been necessary had Pelosi invited the Republicans to help draft the bill in the first place.  There were plenty of Republicans who would have supported a big-spending plan, balanced with the right kinds of tax cuts and incentives.  Had Pelosi done that, the resulting stimulus bill would have already sailed through Congress with wide bipartisan margins.  Her failure to act responsibly in the beginning has been the reason for all of the problems that followed.

Now Reid has to scrounge up more Republicans, but with Gregg publicly rejected the stimulus last night and rejoining the Senate, he may have trouble holding the three he already has.  Reid knows it, too — otherwise, he wouldn’t bother looking for more.  If Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, or Olympia Snowe change their minds, Reid winds up with an embarrassing loss, and Pelosi has to go back to the drawing board.


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Sen. Ted Kennedy, who returned to Capitol Hill for votes earlier this week, has now gone back to Florida to continue his recovery from brain cancer and won’t be here for a final vote on the stimulus bill in the coming days.

With Kennedy here, the Senate version of the bill passed 61-37 – just one vote more than needed.

God will not be mocked.

JiangxiDad on February 13, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Queen Pelosi is departing for Europe tonight. Killing this sham would be a nice parting gift.

JammieWearingFool on February 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Pressure Specter, he must know he’s vulnerable.

From RAS:

“Senator Arlen Specter is one of only three Republicans to support the economic stimulus bill in Congress, and the latest Rasmussen Reports survey in Pennsylvania shows that his position is costing him support back home.

Just 31% of Keystone State voters say are more likely to vote for Specter because of his position on the stimulus package while 40% are less likely to do so.

A look inside the numbers shows the problem for Specter may be even more significant. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Republican voters in the state are less likely to vote for Specter. Among voters not affiliated with either major party, just 27% are more likely to support the long-time incumbent while 48% are less likely to do so.”

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Time to get Specollsnowe (ht: Ingraham) into a room and lay down the law: The GOP and RNC will do EVERYTHING in its power to sideline, ignore, ostracize and defeat you and everything you try to do until you are driven from office.

Or you can vote against the bill and keep your job for now.

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Now Reid has to scrounge up more Republicans, but with Gregg publicly rejected the stimulus last night and rejoining the Senate, he may have trouble holding the three he already has. Reid knows it, too — otherwise, he wouldn’t bother looking for more. If Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, or Olympia Snowe change their minds, Reid winds up with an embarrassing loss, and Pelosi has to go back to the drawing board.

We can only hope for this to come to pass but I’m not holding my breath. The fact that Reid is looking for more votes is telling, but after all, Specter has given his “word”.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Has Gregg announced how he intends to vote?

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Voinovich and Martinez aren’t running in 2010. They might flip, but then they gain nothing from it, except the aggravation of all those phone calls and emails that RINO Three have been receiving.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM

The man of Steele needs to get moving….

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 9:39 AM

God, I hope this thing goes nowhere, and the Demotards who wrote it fall flat on their ugly faces.

UltimateBob on February 13, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Has Gregg announced how he intends to vote?

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM

He’s already voted against it.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Specter’s web site is down. Anyone have a fax #?

publiuspen on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

And the incompetent, corrupt Democrat Party bumbles on like the absurd buffoons they are.

Anyone who voted for one single Congressional Democrat last fall is a complete idiot and should feel that way today.

NoDonkey on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

He’s already voted against it.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009

I thought he abstained or was not present.

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Perhaps this is the plan…to have to final bill defeated and when this economy tanks even further, Republicans will reap all of the blame. During Bush, the Democrats set themselves up to gain from America’s loss in various ways…I never imagined they would continue to do so while in power. Traitors.

Youngs98 on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

There is NO WAY IN HELL that anyone has read the whole bill yet. They hadn’t released it as of midnight. God only knows what Reid and Pelosi stuffed into that over the last two days. How could anyone vote for something they haven’t even read????

marklmail on February 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Where there is dope (s)
There is hope.
I predict the stimuli won’t get through.

Jed1899 on February 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Just shows who’s really on first bast. Pelosi is running the show, with Reid and Obama getting bitch slapped daily. Pelosi having “shut out” Republicans from any participation with this huge bill, has effectively ruined any argument that this administration has any intentions to work with Republicans in any way shape or form.

Spin this story any which way you desire MSM; five year old children will see through your lies.

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Don’t tease me with this thing called hope!

anniekc on February 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM

How can any Republican vote for that monstrosity when the Democrats shut them out of the drafting?

JetBoy on February 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Perhaps this is the plan…to have to final bill defeated and when this economy tanks even further, Republicans will reap all of the blame.

The economy won’t tank further if this fails. It might be a huge improvement. That still leaves the banking problems, but at least the massive wasteful spending would be gone.

JiangxiDad on February 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM

We can only hope for this to come to pass but I’m not holding my breath. The fact that Reid is looking for more votes is telling, but after all, Specter has given his “word”.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Both Specter and Collins sort of gave themselves an out by saying the conference bill should look almost like the Senate version. It doesn’t (tax cuts decreased to 35%). But one also presumes they signed off on the conference report. And neither really has the guts to back out even if it was radically changed.

The fun part might be what has happened to the report when it went over to K Street. RedState reported the “final” version has written amendments, cross-outs and some pages stamped “confidential.”

I recall Sessions (or DeMint?) stopped amnesty once by refusing to waive reading of the bill. I hope someone in the GOP senate caucus has the backbone to do this.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Is it too much to ask for two gobsmackings in a week?

Loxodonta on February 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

God, I hope this thing goes nowhere….
UltimateBob on February 13, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I’d be happier if Jason Vorhees came back to life to slaughter this stimulus thing on this most appropriate day.

misslizzi on February 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Time to get Specollsnowe (ht: Ingraham) into a room and lay down the law: The GOP and RNC will do EVERYTHING in its power to sideline, ignore, ostracize and defeat you and everything you try to do until you are driven from office.

Or you can vote against the bill and keep your job for now.

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Great points… Now, let’s call the RNC and demand they do this… Call them today… Demand action today from Steele and the RNC and tell them we will not be sending any money to the RNC until this action we demand is taken. Do not be nice, time to tell Steele and the RNC exactly what we think of these and other Republican traitors.

Mark Garnett on February 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

How could anyone vote for something they haven’t even read????

marklmail on February 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Nobody has to read it. The Dems want it because it’s a power grab and wealth transfer bill. The Repubs. don’t want it for the same reason. I think it’s easy to vote on. The only people who need to read it are those who are potential cross-overs. And their motivations are keeping their seats and personal fiefdoms. Best to bribe them :)

JiangxiDad on February 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

I’m going to stop by Arlen Specter’s local office today and let them know I’m against this bill. All his office numbers are at the link – they may be better locations to get a message through than his DC number.

forest on February 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

It was my understanding that Gregg abstained as well, but he did say that part of the reason he was withdrawing his name was because he differed with the President on the stimulus and the Census. So I took that to mean that he would vote No on the deal. Just what I got from it though.

XWing5 on February 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Perhaps this is the plan…to have to final bill defeated and when this economy tanks even further, Republicans will reap all of the blame.

The economy is already correcting itself, and has shown signs of recovery without any involvement from big brother.

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Interesting….

The House voted to have the bill in Members, and the publics, hands for 48 hours prior to any vote…

Has the actual bill been released yet? Because I don’t see how Nancy can have a vote today, and keep that promise…

Senate is not “as” time constrained, except that Barry wants this thing in hand so he can declare victory, and move on.

Romeo13 on February 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Got it.

Specter’s Office

Main: 202-224-4254
Fax: 202-228-1229

publiuspen on February 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Specter’s web site is down. Anyone have a fax #?

publiuspen on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

His contact page is working http://specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=contact.contactform

rplat on February 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM

More good news: Overnight the bill went from 999 pages to 1,071 pages; 72 extra pages of stimuli glory.

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 9:48 AM

According to Drudge, the bill is over 1000 pages, Frank Laudenberg (D-NJ) says the senate won’t have time to read it before voting, and Nancy is leaving at 6 pm for Rome for eight days…including an audience with the Pope. (No doubt to explain to him how Catholic teaching on abortion has not been a consensus).

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:48 AM

“It was my understanding that Gregg abstained as well, but he did say that part of the reason he was withdrawing his name was because he differed with the President on the stimulus”

I caught that too.

Unfortunately, with pols, that is far different than saying I will vote no.

I’m more hopeful than not.

Specter is the weak link here.

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:48 AM

It was my understanding that Gregg abstained as well, but he did say that part of the reason he was withdrawing his name was because he differed with the President on the stimulus and the Census. So I took that to mean that he would vote No on the deal. Just what I got from it though.

XWing5 on February 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Yep, and I think the final straw was when Barry and Rahm tried to roll him for his vote… they probably told him he HAD to vote for this crap… and he couldn’t do it.

Romeo13 on February 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM

What kinds of money, Ed, would you be willing to lay on Collins, Snowe and/or Specter doing a reversal? I’d love to see it, but I’m not planning on it. We’re far more likely to see the other RINOs cave.

Stealing from another thread… where have been the last eight years?

;)

mankai on February 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM

I called Specter and told his staff as someone who used to live in Lackawanna County, I’ll help bury him in the primary.

Too bad his staff probably won’t pass that message to him.

Tim Burton on February 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Specter is the weak link here.

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:48 AM

He has to assume by now that someone will oppose him in the primary. And Santorum and Bush won’t be there to help him; if fact Santorum would most likely support a conservative challenger. (Rick is thinking of running for governor in 2010).

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Specter told Megan Kelly that he gave his “word” but he also said that the socialized health care would be removed. It hasn’t been, and that gives him an out on going back on his “word”. Also, didn’t the stuff Collins put in get removed as well?

ctmom on February 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM

JiangxiDad on February 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM

I have always contended that the Messiah does not do anything without weighing his options (however I will admit the Gregg resignation did catch him off guard-even Messiahs can have an off day).

As to Reid scrambling after conference deliberations to get at least 60 votes because of Kennedy not being able to attend the final vote, I think Obama knew that getting to 60 votes was always going to be tight but I agree with you, my friend, Obama has a contingency plan if the stimulus bill does not get out of the Senate and part of that contingency is to lay the blame at the feet of Republicans.

But let’s be honest. It doesn’t take a Messiah to figure that out. Any political science 101 student could run with that line of thinking that as well.

technopeasant on February 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM

After Snowe, Collins, and Specter all showed their faces at the Dems press conference the other day, I doubt they’ll flip now.

CP on February 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Couldn’t the senate minority leader threaten to cut-off Snowe’s senate-funded embalming treatments?

Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Also, didn’t the stuff Collins put in get removed as well?

ctmom on February 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM

IDK but I think she said she would only vote yea, if there was 61 votes.

And with Kennedy gone…??

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Newt said at least 11 Dems were anti-stimuli too!

Jed1899 on February 13, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Senators Snowe, Collins, Specter…it is NOT too late.

It is also not too late to call them.

Mr. Joe on February 13, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Maybe today God will prove his existence by allowing us to remain free.

Of course, God works in mysterious ways, and at this point I’m not even sure if we deserve freedom anymore.

Dorvillian on February 13, 2009 at 9:54 AM

I received this email blast yesterday.

Specter Takes $6.5 Billion for His Pet Project

In the next few days, Congress will vote on a stimulus program that will now cost you and me at least $789 billion.

The New York Times called it the largest economic-spending package in history.

It is.

It is also the largest pork-and-welfare spending spree in history.

It is simply shocking that Congress did not hold proper hearings for this plan.

Public input was not only censored — it was ignored as Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid worked feverishly to slam this political payoff called a stimulus down our throats.

And the Republicans in the House and Senate were completely cut out except for three senators who defected to vote for the Democratic plan.

Their names are well known: Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe from Maine.

New revelations of political wheeling and dealing that helped get these liberal Republicans to betray their colleagues and parties are emerging.

For example, The New York Times reported that Arlen Specter insisted that the “stimulus” include $6.5 billion for “medical research.”

Yes, that’s $6.5 billion of your money.

Why so much?

The paper says Specter has cancer and he wants more funding for research.

No matter how worthy the cause, Specter’s receipt of a $6.5 billion political payoff proves that this bill was not about stimulus and jobs, but about political shenanigans.

We must hold these Republicans to account.

We at The National Republican Trust have already warned disloyal Republicans like Specter that we will support any Republican challenger in their next election.

And we also plan on exposing their actions.

Cleverly, President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress stampeded this “stimulus” bill through Congress to prevent opposition from organizing and responding to this shameful waste of taxpayer money.

No matter — we at The Republican National Trust will soon unleash radio ads exposing Specter, Collins, and Snowe, as well as key Democrats who should have stopped this bill.

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Is it too much to ask for two gobsmackings in a week?

Loxodonta on February 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Heh.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Apparently, Gregg figured out that he was being coerced and used by Obama’s goons and had the courage and good sense to bail out. On the other hand, Specter, Collins and Snowe appear to be completely void of these same moral qualities.

rplat on February 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Message to Senator’s Baucus and Tester…

Montanans are watching both of you closely…

Keemo on February 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM

It was my understanding that Gregg abstained as well, but he did say that part of the reason he was withdrawing his name was because he differed with the President on the stimulus and the Census. So I took that to mean that he would vote No on the deal. Just what I got from it though.

XWing5 on February 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Okay. I heard some kind of blurb on the radio that he had voted against it, but perhaps the speaker was saying that he opposed it and he really didn’t vote. So sorry.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM

No doubt to explain to him how Catholic teaching on abortion has not been a consensus).

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:48 AM

It would most satisfying if the Pope would conduct an Inquisition into the Holy Standing of one Nancy Pelosi. Inquisitions are most properly conducted via the rack, thumbscrews, and applications of boiling oil.

BobMbx on February 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Gov. Ed Rendell seems to think the stimulus has passed already.

misslizzi on February 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Apparently, Gregg figured out that he was being coerced and used by Obama’s goons and had the courage and good sense to bail out. On the other hand, Specter, Collins and Snowe appear to be completely void of these same moral qualities.

rplat on February 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM

I wonder if Gregg has enlightened them or the whole caucus as to what kind of people they’re dealing with. (They should know already.(The census grab clearly shows the GOP Three are being used; the Dem goal is a permanent majority in Congress and therefore, electoral votes.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Newt said at least 11 Dems were anti-stimuli too!

Jed1899 on February 13, 2009 a

In the House, not the Senate.

Though we should be pressuring Nelson and Lincoln.

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM

I will tell you this, concerning our “pal” Arlen Specter. I tried to send an email the other day to scold him for his vote for the national nightmare known as the “stimulus” bill. I typed the entire thing on the contact form on his web page, pressed “send” and got an error message. I guess that box is full. So today, I’m sending a fax to DC, but the number isn’t listed on his website. I started calling his offices to get the number. I dialed every one (eight numbers are listed) and all but the Scranton office had a busy line. The guy who answered couldn’t have been nicer, and gleefully gave me the number. I told him that he was the only one I could reach, he chuckled and said, “We are taking an EXTRAORDINARY number of calls right now.” I wished him sanity, thanked him, and hung up. I’ll probably have to send this fax a bunch of times to get through the busy fax number, but I’m chained to my desk today with quotes, taxes and other stuff, so it matters not.
Ah, the pleasures of having your own business.

RWLA on February 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Specollsnowe (ht: Ingraham)
Bishop on February 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Alternatively, Huckabee was calling them “The Three Blind Mice” this morning on Fox.

LastRick on February 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Thank goodness Coleman didn’t roll over in MN.

BadgerHawk on February 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM

We really need the rank-and-file House Democrats to rebel against this as well. They’ve been just as shut out of the process as House Republicans have been, but only 11 of them had the nerve to reject this abomination the first time.

It would be so lovely to see Pelosi take a slap in the face in her own chamber, from her own party.

NeighborhoodCatLady on February 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Gregg abstained which is what touched off his leaving the admin. Barry & Co felt jilted that he wouldn’t side with them Gregg must have realized earlier than most that he was the 61st vote.

I’m actually beginning to wonder if Gregg took the nomination so he could sit out the stimulus debate-n-vote, hoping it would pass without his support. If he didn’t drop out yesterday, Obama would have expected him to push it over the goal line for Reid today.

budfox on February 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM

How in the world did this little weasel, skinny-ass liberal piece of garbage EVER get into power. He is an example of the weakest almost human being there is in this country. The only hope for this country is if Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the rest are PUT OUT OF OFFICE!!

afotia on February 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Gov. Ed Rendell seems to think the stimulus has passed already.

misslizzi on February 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM

He’s been running around telling everyone that would listen that thousands of state workers would need to be laid off etc. I figured it was setup to give Obama’s pork bill all the credit when he suddenly discovers that things might not be so bad.

forest on February 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM

He’s been running around telling everyone that would listen that thousands of state workers would need to be laid off etc. I figured it was setup to give Obama’s pork bill all the credit when he suddenly discovers that things might not be so bad.

forest on February 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Our governor has been telling us that with the stimulus money Tennessee will receive that they won’t have to lay off any state workers after all.

That tells me there are too many state workers in Tennessee.

Oh, please Obama, pick Bredesen as your HHS Secretary so we can have a Republican Governor! So something right for a change!

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Keep trying Specter’s web site. Eventually you will get through. Email contact form requires a PA address. My message:

“Now is the time. Protect and defend our founding principles. Pennsylvania was once the seat of Liberty. Please change your vote to NO on the spending bill. Stop the insanity. Protect my children from the servitude this socialist creep represents.”

I thought of a word other than ‘creep’ but wanted to remain civil, even in these challenging times.

publiuspen on February 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM

He’s already voted against it.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009

I thought he abstained or was not present.

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

My understanding is that Gregg voted against it in committee. But when the full Senate vote was taken, he abstained.

Who knows where he’ll vote now, but presumably he’ll vote against.

If I’m counting correctly (adding Gregg and subtracting Kennedy), it stands at 60-38. Kennedy explains one of the missing from 100. I forget which state is missing the other vote. Anyone know?

But I really can’t see why the Three Amigos can’t look at what’s been pitched back and in and say no way. Their colleagues and the RNC should really encourage them to play hardball. Obama looked like a hyena yesterday; they should play to their advantage, highlight all the objectionable parts, and take a pass. Collins promised and so did Specter–for what little those promises are worth. After all, they’ve won elections too.

BuckeyeSam on February 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM

I wonder if Reid and Pelosi would be behaving this same way if Hillary were President. Somehow or other I think Hillary would be putting Pelosi in her place for the sheer joy of knocking her down a peg or two.

sherry on February 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Nancy was multi-tasking. She was baking cookies while bouncing her grandchildren on her knee at the same time she was dictating the porkulus bill from her photographic memory to her scribes.

So cut the womyn some slack.

She is a goddess.

jeff_from_mpls on February 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM

If I’m counting correctly (adding Gregg and subtracting Kennedy), it stands at 60-38. Kennedy explains one of the missing from 100. I forget which state is missing the other vote. Anyone know?

Didn’t Cornyn miss the vote the first time? That would explain the additional missing senator.

Doughboy on February 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM

He’s already voted against it.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009

I thought he abstained or was not present.

artist on February 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I saw Gregg being interviewed on CNBC this morning. They asked him how he was going to vote on the stimulus, and he said he expects to vote against it.

AZCoyote on February 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM

How can any Republican vote for that monstrosity when the Democrats shut them out of the drafting?

JetBoy on February 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM

I assume this is rhetorical? If not take your pick from these choices.

a) Cowards
b) Corrupt
c) RINO’s
d) All of the above

You get one chance to get the right answer.

/sarc

csdeven on February 13, 2009 at 10:08 AM

But one also presumes they signed off on the conference report. And neither really has the guts to back out even if it was radically changed.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

According to this link, none of the three GOP members who voted for the initial Senate version were present at the conference committee. Pelosi, Camp (R), Rangel, Obey, and Waxman met with Reid, Baucus, Grassley (R), Inouye and Cochran (R). None of those three Rs voted for the bill(s).

LastRick on February 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Minnesota is missing a senator….

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM

I wonder if Reid and Pelosi would be behaving this same way if Hillary were President. Somehow or other I think Hillary would be putting Pelosi in her place for the sheer joy of knocking her down a peg or two.

sherry on February 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM

If she’d stayed in the Senate, she could have proposed a smaller, more moderate bill as part of her fake centrism, claiming it was truer to Obama’s $175 billion campaign promise, and scored one off Nancy.

Now she’s sitting at State, with most of her power gone to “envoys” and wondering when there’ll be a state funeral to attend, since they don’t dare let crazy Uncle Joe out of the White House attic.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM

I don’t CARE if it doesn’t pass and Republicans get the blame for it.

There are just some things you gotta do. Being all weasely about who might disapprove of your principles is no way to go.

Alana on February 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Didn’t Cornyn miss the vote the first time? That would explain the additional missing senator.

Doughboy on February 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM

I thought it was 61-37. So, two missing votes were Gregg and Minnesota’s unplaced senator. That’s my guess.

LastRick on February 13, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Even our Gov Hoeven in ND is talking about the $$ we’ll get from this monstrosity. He doesn’t sound gleeful about it, but he’s preparing to get the folks in line who’ll have to be accounting on the use of it.
ND at least thank God has a balanced budget & a surplus.
We don’t need any stinkin’ stimulus $$!

Badger40 on February 13, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Sen. Ted Kennedy, who returned to Capitol Hill for votes earlier this week, has now gone back to Florida to continue his recovery from brain cancer

Are they serious? I mean, I am certainly aware of our modern day proclivity for using euphemisms for death and the dying process, but honestly, recovery is now one of them?

Puddleglum on February 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Reid is a bottom feeder…. Cornyn surprised me… he better shape up…..

CynicalOptimist on February 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Drudge is reporting that her highness is trying to rush the vote so she can leave for an 8-day trip to Rome, during which one of her events will be to receive a legislative award from some Italian group. What the &%$??

I hope this vote goes down in flames, as it deserves to. A pox on her house and anyone else who votes for this disaster.

redfoxbluestate on February 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM

“A Republican party that added more than $30 trillion to the future debt in a time of boom has no credible answer but raw partisanship for opposing $800 billion in the swiftest downturn in employment since the Great Depression. That’s the bottom line.”

Andrew “The Conservative Soul” Sullivan.

What 30 Trillion dollars is Sullivan talking about? Where did he pull that number from? Id did not care for increases of spendging under Bush and agree the GOP should have done more, but I must have missed the 30 trillion in future debt.

Mr. Joe on February 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM

s it too much to ask for two gobsmackings in a week?

Loxodonta on February 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

I love the smell of gobsmack in the morning.

scalleywag on February 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Spector was on TV saying they’d get that kill-the-elders stuff out of the bill, and to my understanding, they have not.

He made a big deal about making a “commitment” to the Democrats – well, this commitment to the American people regarding the health care was later, and therefore trumps his earlier one.

GET SPECTOR.

Alana on February 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Here’s the fax to Specter:

Senator Specter,

I write today to urge you in the strongest terms to vote NO to the economic “stimulus” bill currently in review in the Senate.
It is a clear case of political hucksterism and expansion of government by President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid, and nothing more. You’re not a stupid man, you can read that there is very little stimulus to be found, but plenty of pork and political gimme’s to contributors and friends of the Democrats in Congress. Sidling our children and grandchildren with this debt and an ever more bloated government is not what we should be doing now.
I remember when you ran for president in 1996 or 2000 and proclaimed yourself “a social libertarian and fiscal conservative”. What is so fiscally conservative about over reaching, unconstitutional spending by the federal government. Senator, live up to your credo or face the wrath of the voters in 2010. Your “no” vote on this bill will keep myself and thousands of other Pennsylvanians from actively, fervently campaigning against you next year, and doing all in our power to defeat you. A “yes” vote will bring out an uphill reelection bid for you. This I promise.
I wish you good health.

RWLA on February 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM

I forget which state is missing the other vote. Anyone know?

Coleman R-MN

GrayDog on February 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM

But would any of those 3 change their vote? I can see Specter stiffening up at criticism, and voting for it just to show that he doesn’t care what the “chattering class” thinks.

hawksruleva on February 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Why can’t McConnell convince some dems to be like Barry and vote “present.”

Mark30339 on February 13, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Where are the fighting-back/truth-telling ads from the GOP? The coverage is so one-sided and yet the aproval ratings for this thing are only at 57+/- percent. Imagine if we were generating some of our own coverage. A little too late now, but I’m just saying…

XWing5 on February 13, 2009 at 10:18 AM

The house members should all refrain from voting if they haven’t received the full text of the bill yet.

hawksruleva on February 13, 2009 at 10:18 AM

If one of them would change their vote, and no other RINOs change to a yes, I think the other two would change their vote as well. None of them wants to be the 60th vote.

But that is all a very big I-F and very unlikely.

I have hope that they will change…but I ain’t holding my breath.

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 10:18 AM

But would any of those 3 change their vote? I can see Specter stiffening up at criticism, and voting for it just to show that he doesn’t care what the “chattering class” thinks.

hawksruleva on February 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Arlen cares about the chattering classes. What would stiffen him up would be a primary opponent. An independently wealthy Pittsburgh talk radio host named Meecham has already said he might consider it, or he’d certainly help anyone who opposed Arlen. Santorum had an article in Philly a few weeks ago in which he identified a few GOP state officeholders that might oppose Arlen.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM

POUR ON THE PHONE CALLS FAXES and EMAILS!!!

Melt the wire!

dogsoldier on February 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM

McConnell needs to fix this problem! I don’t see a single blue dog breaking ranks. Why is not pounding these three to get back in line. McConnell needs to step up or step down!

Kjeil on February 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Drudge is also reporting (via Humanevents.com) that the delay for the bill arriving at 11 pm last night was due to converting the file from txt to pdf to make searches impossible. Congress would never do that, right?

LastRick on February 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Cornyn surprised me… he better shape up…..

CynicalOptimist on February 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Cornyn voted against. What are your concerns?

publiuspen on February 13, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Melt the phones! Seriously!
This would be awesome.

paustin110 on February 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Why can’t McConnell convince some dems to be like Barry and vote “present.”

Mark30339 on February 13, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I think that may be a possiblity, though I’m not sure what Dem Senator I could see jumping the fence. Maybe (I)Leiberman, over the health care issue? I also wouldn’t be surprised to see a few more House Dems vote against it.

hawksruleva on February 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Minnesota is missing a senator….

ladyingray on February 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Thanks. How could I forget? D’oh!

BuckeyeSam on February 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Cornyn surprised me… he better shape up…..

CynicalOptimist on February 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Cornyn missed one vote because of a prior commitment. He knew his vote would not be a swing one. He has since come back to DC and is opposed to the stimulus.

Wethal on February 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM

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