Stimulusmania: Rasmussen shows seven-point surge in support, too
posted at 4:10 pm on February 12, 2009 by Allahpundit
Seven points in seven days, just like Gallup. Only a bare plurality backs it overall — 44/40, with 15 percent on the fence — but like Dave Weigel says, a week ago Rasmussen was all the rage in the rightosphere because it was the lone major pollster to show more opposed to the bill than in favor. Goodbye to all that:
The latest data shows that support for the president is closely linked to support for the stimulus plan. Among those who Strongly Approve of Obama’s job performance, 84% favor the stimulus plan, and four percent (4%) are opposed. Among those who Somewhat Approve of the president’s performance, 39% favor the stimulus plan, while 30% are opposed.
However, among those who disapprove of the president’s performance, the results are starkly different. Just one percent (1%) approve of the plan, and 91% disapprove.
The link between the president and support for the stimulus plan is confirmed by other data as well. A review of polling data from other firms suggests that when the plan is described as Obama’s plan, it enjoys more support.
Call it the Obamessiah Effect, soon to face its ultimate test when The One turns on the charm to sell TARP II to a public that’s already sick to death of bailouts. Exit question one: Think they’d get a different result if they started including Heritage’s assessment of the true cost of the stimulus in the questions? Exit question two: Is Kaus right that the only way to roll back the welfare provisions of the bill is for grassroots conservatives to unleash hell on YouTube?
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I think its probably about time grassroots conservatives unleashed hell somewhere. We’re pathetically complacent.
jimmy the notable on February 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Is Kaus a liberal? He sure seems to have a lot of common sense.
BadgerHawk on February 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM
I think it had more to do with the Oprah shows he’s been pulling than anything else.
I swear it’s like Idiocracy…
Skywise on February 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Dead cat bounce..
the_nile on February 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM
We’re in Rome, circa 240 A.D.
Time to stop reading ‘Guns & Ammo’ and start buying guns and ammo
Janos Hunyadi on February 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM
like you said before, this is Democrats coming home, they are willing to give him the benefit this time, remember we are only 3 weeks into his presidency you have to figure he could still work some magic. In time as the scope of the theft and damage becomes apparent don’t be shocked if he runs out of rabbits to pull out of his hat.
rob verdi on February 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM
i am afraid we have a LAND of STUPID people
dangitt on February 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM
How can we get an accurate read on the public perception when the Democrats are refusing to release the actual details until the house VOTES on it?
That alone tells me that the public would be outraged about what is in this bill.
highhopes on February 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM
skywise
well said, that disgrace in Fort Meyers could have been an Oprah show.
rob verdi on February 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM
As I said yesterday, people are gullible and stupid. “This guy we really know nothing about says we need it? Well, okay then!” We’ve turned into OprahNation.
And if people do come around to opposing this later on (after the bill’s passed), they’ll punish the members of Congress who voted the way they wanted Congress to. Short-term memories galore.
amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I’m not surprised at all. The One Lightworker has acted! Glory be!
Lets see how that holds up after TARP II (and III and IV) and those negative externalities start kicking in.
Techie on February 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM
It’s the $13/week.
I’d be interested in seeing what percentage thought that the $400 credit will be sent as a check.
rw on February 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Obama to the White House Press Corps (including Helen Thomas): “Is that a surge in your support or are you just happy to see me?”
NoDonkey on February 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Not surprised. If democrats want it, let democrats own it. Unfortunately, we all suffer.
XWing5 on February 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM
The reason so many people are for this crud is they listen to the msm and have no idea what harm this is going to do to them. They are brain dead on facts. If they would come to sites like this and listen to Fox to get their news, listen to Rush, Hannity, etc. radio, it would be a whole new ball game!!
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letget on February 12, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I see the plan as a large rock attached by a rope to Barry’s neck. If he jumps up in the air, it pulls the rock up. Of course, once the effect of the package is felt, it will be like chucking the rock off of a bridge.
Vashta.Nerada on February 12, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Oh, and people are more interested in doing something (anything!!!!1!) than knowing the details of a plan and thinking about it logically. Like I said, gullible.
amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Name withdrawn for Commerce Secretary–via Hannity right now.
maverick muse on February 12, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Not all California is that bad! ;-0
Seriously, the level of discussion is more akin to the “gimme a kitchen” mentality than a legitimate discussion about what makes economic sense. I am sick to my stomach about what is happening to this country less than a month after a filthy liar and the Democrat Party are in charge.
highhopes on February 12, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Combined power of fear based ignorance and an unfiltered media cheering section…
ClassicCon on February 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Judd just withdrew his nomination for Commerce.Sorry OT.
canditaylor68 on February 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
WHERE THE HELL IS MY F—ING UNICORN?!
aero on February 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Not confirmed yet. Hoping it is true.
highhopes on February 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I swear, there is some magic that shoots from this antichrist’s eyes when he goes a’campaignin’. He went Oprah on these folks and started giving away kitchens and cars and jewelry and Origins Ginger Suffle…who could resist? These are the same people who wear his ugly mug on TSHIRTS, for goodness’ sake. I see them in Walmart and I want to know which concert of his they got that at…
Mommypundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Yes, they’d get a different result if the media just told the truth.
INC on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Drudge has it on his page.
Doughboy on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
And now ask the followup question:
“Do you still support the stimulus knowing that it will be paid for in much higher taxes and much lower benefits, and not with leprechaun hats and unicorn tears?”
Chuck Schick on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Yeah, Judd Gregg pulled his nomination over the stimulus and census.
MayBee on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Whoa! Judd Gregg withdraws nomination!
aquaviva on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
I blame it all on those folk who think this will give them a free kitchen.
rbj on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Obama called the proposed gas relief last year a “gimmick” because consumer savings would be such a paltry figure.
J.G. took his name off Obama’s cabinet list.
maverick muse on February 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM
“And if people do come around to opposing this later on (after the bill’s passed), they’ll punish the members of Congress who voted the way they wanted Congress to.”
Dont count on it.
Elric66 on February 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM
I’m impressed.
Vashta.Nerada on February 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Rest easy, the unicorn entitlement provision made it through committee. Once Pelosi lets the public see the details you’ll be satisfied! :-0
highhopes on February 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Commerce Secretary: Strike Two!
aquaviva on February 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Gregg is out, sighting too many differences on stimulus and the census.
amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:19 PM
—Drudge just posted that Gregg has withdrawn from the Commerce Secretary position.
Skywise on February 12, 2009 at 4:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VflOBMTZiQw
Mommypundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Er, citing.
amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:20 PM
The people who support him are enthralled, they’ve joined the cult of The Messiah. I honestly think that we have reached to point now where no matter what he does these people will find a way to self-rationalize it into something good.
These people were never involved with facts, reality, national or international affairs or even their fellow citizens. They have been, and continue to be, self-absorbed and selfish. This is a very dangerous time for the nation, the last time this kind of thing happened was 1933 Germany.
johnsteele on February 12, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Tax problems?
Chuck Schick on February 12, 2009 at 4:20 PM
heh… wow are we good or what… :D
Skywise on February 12, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Gregg is out. Screw Obama!!
jencab on February 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM
But he retains his seat, right?
Mommypundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM
The magician was elected on his purported skill to work miracles, now the audience wants to see the end of the first trick.
Imagine their surprise when Ogabe’s beautiful assistant, Ms. United States, starts screaming in pain as he saws her in half.
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM
INC on February 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM
With all due respect to Drudge, so does the WP which when it comes to this stuff is probably a better first source. Good news in any case. At a minimum it is one less Republican so that the filthy liar can’t continue claiming that he’s the most bipartisan President ever. The only thing that differentiates his cabinet is whether it is the Justice Department or the IRS that are investigating their activities.
highhopes on February 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Another week. Another cabinet nomination withdrawal. At least give Obama props for consistency.
Doughboy on February 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM
No. Gregg cited differences of ideology on stimulus and census. Go Gregg. The revolution is underway=)
canditaylor68 on February 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM
INC on February 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Entire statement by Gregg.
INC on February 12, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Why? He won.
highhopes on February 12, 2009 at 4:23 PM
I’m also willing to bet you can tie the uptick with the lady who got herself a house just by talking to Ogabe; there are a lot of suckers out there who think it can happen just as easily for them.
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Gregg pulling out as commerce based in part on difference in the stimulus bill will hurt O.
Topsecretk9 on February 12, 2009 at 4:23 PM
He didn’t resign, so I’d assume so.
amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Yeah, they couldn’t find any tax cheating in Gregg’s file.
Vashta.Nerada on February 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Backbone, as scarce as unicorns these days.
the_nile on February 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Statement on Gregg’s Senate website.
INC on February 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Obama is busy smooth-talking and lying through his teeth at Caterpillar. Yet another campaign speech pretending that he cares about these people and that the stimulus is to help the ordinary American.
amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Folks should contact Judd Gregg to express appreciation for his opposition to Obama’s Stuffed Pork.
There is no surprise, but only disappointment in Obama’s work. Only his hyenas get the tingles. Like Pavlov’s dogs, watch the socialist Democrats drooling.
So the Census broke the bridge Gregg contemplated crossing.
maverick muse on February 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM
No. Gregg cited differences of ideology on stimulus and census.
Woo hoo! Gregg just made the position of Commerce Secretary a toxic asset for any Republican. Ogabe will now have to appoint a demorat lackey, and his impending power grab at the census will become a serious issue, as it should already be.
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM
I would have also accepted, “Yes. He paid them all.”
Chuck Schick on February 12, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Gregg withdrawl is a good news. And a decent move. He can’t give a white check to Obama.
And by the way, the public support the bill because of all the talk about the infrastructure consturction and tax reduction. And although people still give credit to Obama. It’s like when you fall in love with the wrong person. First you can’t see his’hers problems and you trust every word he/she speaks. Then, you start to realize that not everything is as you thought it would be but you still give theperson credit. Then is the third faze when you don’t know how to get rid of the former lover. American people are in the second faze of this love affair.
clemycali on February 12, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Yes. We should be grateful to Gregg for highlighting this.
INC on February 12, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Like I’ve said before, check back with me in a year on this one. It’s much easier to favor something in theory than in practice. If the economy fails to turn around (a failure made much more likely by this so-called “stimulus”), they’ll be lucky to get half the support they have right now.
thirteen28 on February 12, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Heh, look at the pic of Ogabe over at Drudge, staring at Gregg.
You know he’s thinking, “You’re going to pay for this, cracka.”
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:28 PM
<—————- Gregg talk is thataway
Abby Adams on February 12, 2009 at 4:28 PM
When people lie to my face, it is not warm and fuzzy feelings that I experience.
It isn’t punching the liar that I endorse, but rebuking the lie.
Do not relinquish your instincts when pugilism is required for survival.
Fight smarter and harder.
maverick muse on February 12, 2009 at 4:29 PM
1hr of Prime Time TV, with softball questions from the MSM followed by repeated Lies by Obama that went unchallenged.
7pts isn’t that much
jp on February 12, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I think what this poll shows is that when the support was down it was a reflection of those who get their news and information thru the internet and the one lone fair and balanced cable news station. And when the support swung up a few points it was reflective of those who were getting the information by way of headlines and soundbites from their evening network news. That to me is the stark difference, because the bill didn’t really change only the marketing did.
And that ought to serve as a teaching moment for the GOP.
Texas Gal on February 12, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Obama to nominate Specter!
WashJeff on February 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM
The tax cut? It’s looking like it will only be $400 dollars. That’s a payroll tax cut so no check. Retirees and disabled vets would get a one-time check of $250.
I remember seeing the tax-cut charts from el Presidente Obama and how all of his followers were touting how much better his would be versus McCains.
So “my fellow Americans,” enjoy your extra $7.692 weekly take home pay.
Mr Gus on February 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Must be the Jose the Frycook factor. Hey, they’ll need to fill Robert Gibbs’ spot pretty soon, right? Give ol’ Jose a chance.
Jim Treacher on February 12, 2009 at 4:32 PM
But it’s enough. :(
darii on February 12, 2009 at 4:33 PM
So “my fellow Americans,” enjoy your extra $7.692 weekly take home pay.
Mr Gus on February 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Except that the $7.692 will be worth about $2.475 of actual buying power in six months.
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:33 PM
But do you want every presser to begin with “Thank God I’m here to speak on behalf of President Obama! Woo!”?
Although it would be more entertaining than Gibbs fumbling around as he awkwardly dodges questions.
darii on February 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM
“So this is how liberty dies…..With thunderous applause.”
Hawkins1701 on February 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Julio.
Or maybe you mean the next doofus to show up to a revival to complain?
Abby Adams on February 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Whoa! You are dead-on! That look is worth 1000 words! It will be interesting to hear President Clouseau’s take on this!
tru2tx on February 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Like the Dow Jones, Rasmussen tracks daily adjustments that by nature fluctuate. It’s good to keep track of daily affairs; but every up or down does not dictate the need to CHANGE ideological strategy. Over time, the direction of fluctuations does motivate review of tactics to be most effective dealing with public demands.
Accept the reality that most people feel like chickens with their heads cut off. Avoid the splatter, but don’t lose the makings for survival.
maverick muse on February 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Gallup showed that the bump came from Democrats, i didn’t see anything from Rasmussen on party id. Shoring up support from Democrats may make the poll numbers look good, but it doesn’t do much for him politically.
clearbluesky on February 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Please, Allah. Take your frapping medicine. The survey shows that many Obastard supporters love his Stimulating Pork Tenderloin With Prunes and Ex-Lax. But his opponents reject it in far greater proportion. So it’s not “stimulusmania.” It’s in fact the opposite… support from Barry’s huffers is not as uniform on the bill as is the opposition’s views against the bill.
George Orwell on February 12, 2009 at 4:37 PM
its going to pass anyway, unless support tanked to the 30′s, not going to happen to him yet.
support down the road for it is when it will hurt Obama and not the GOp
jp on February 12, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Bonanza Hog Obama
maverick muse on February 12, 2009 at 4:37 PM
A lot of them are going to be right about that “free” kitchen once this idiotic “stimulus” bill is passed. The $50 billion or $70 billion or whatever the current number is that’s going to be used to pay for “mortgage modification” means that people who irresponsibly signed up for mortgages they couldn’t afford are going to have their interest rates reduced and their loan principal reduced to an amount they can afford — at taxpayer expense.
We laughed at Peggy the Moocher because she thought Obama was going to pay her mortgage. She wasn’t completely wrong; Obama won’t pay it, but he’ll force the rest of us to pay it for her. Welcome to Obama’s New World Order, where your wealth (and your kids’ and grandkids’ wealth) is redistributed to achieve “social justice.”
AZCoyote on February 12, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Wow, who could have seen that coming? I’m sure Dear Leader had no idea congressional dems were going to remove it and he’s just heartbroken over it.
clearbluesky on February 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Speaking of poll numbers, the Dow has voted on Obama..
-2000 points since the inauguration.
TexasJew on February 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Yeah, but according to Obama, that’s all Bush’s fault..it’s still sitting on his desk wrapped in a nice package.
AUINSC on February 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM
If you ask people do you want more money from the gov ? Most will say yes .But if you ask them do you want to pay higher taxes in a few years to pay for it most will say no.When the dumb people think there getting more money from other people paying higher taxes there all for it.But as soon as it there money paying for all this spending they say no way.
thmcbb on February 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM
So when Ogabe said: “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”….he actually meant it?
Shocking.
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:46 PM
At least. Worse case scenario would make it worth even less. If they spend it in a city with a 7% sales tax it already becomes $7.154. Then we have to subtract the coming gasoline tax increases which should easily eat into that paltry sum.
This is still well below the amount needed for them to rent a plasma TV from the local Rent-A-Center.
Mr Gus on February 12, 2009 at 4:48 PM
From the latest news article today:
Now how could this plan not work!
Chuck Schick on February 12, 2009 at 4:52 PM
I heard a very slick radio ad last night here in Vegas that was put out by a union that urged people to call Sen. Ensign to ask him to vote for “President Obama’s jobs program.”
1. It said that 80% of people want congress to “do something like President Obama’s plan” blah blah
2. Call Michale Steele, who was just yesterday trying to say this bill isn’t Obama’s but Pelosi’s. Obama’s people and his unions supporters don’t seem to agree.
3. Way, way too many people in this country are sheep. If they hear that “80% support President Obama’s plan,” they figure it’s the truth and that the plan must be good.
ugh
funky chicken on February 12, 2009 at 4:54 PM
One twelve pack of decent beer or one case of bad beer to forget this idiotic Bill was ever passed by the corrupt, incompetent Democrats and signed by OJT Barry.
NoDonkey on February 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM
The ACORN effect.
Fletch54 on February 12, 2009 at 4:57 PM
One twelve pack of decent beer or one case of bad beer to forget this idiotic Bill was ever passed by the corrupt, incompetent Democrats and signed by OJT Barry.
NoDonkey on February 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM
If the National Health and Death Service finds out you’ve been drinking, you will be denied medical care for the rest of your life.
Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 4:57 PM
A few thoughts: 1. Obama was just elected a little over 3 months ago, so it’s not surprising that we’ve not had a national rise in collective IQ in such a short time; 2. The Democrats seem to be a little more jittery about the implications in terms of public approval than the Republicans; I’d say there are good reasons for that. 3. The majority of American people want it; give the people what they want.
ddrintn on February 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM
I’m thinking that to National Health and Death Service, beer will pretty much BE the medical care, so it’s all good.
NoDonkey on February 12, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Oh Mr. President, pick me! Wah, Wah, Life is too hard, gimme gimme, if I just had…
Yes, my fellow Americans, its Queen for a Day, and you could be next. Step right up
billypaintbrush on February 12, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Form 1099-Booze
NOTICE OF INTENT TO LEVY
National Health and Death Service
Ogden, UT
To: John Q. Public – SSN 555-12-1212
Tax Year: 2009
Alcohol Consumption – 2009: 365 quarts
Alcohol Consumption Tax: $365.00
Mandatory Health Tax: $12,000*
Total Amount Due: $15,365.00
Make check payable to “Department of Treasury”
*Mandatory Health Tax applied due to denial of insurance per FCCER Form 12B
Mr Gus on February 12, 2009 at 5:11 PM
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