Just a reminder: Obama doesn’t believe the sham NIE on Iran either

posted at 5:59 pm on February 12, 2009 by Allahpundit

Remember that? The one that assured us, preposterously, that Iran gave up its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and was instantly celebrated by idiot liberals as proof that there’s no threat and therefore no cause for Chimpy to keep rattling his saber? Never mind that classified portions of the same document acknowledged the possibility of more than a dozen covert nuke sites closed to inspectors, and never mind that actually building a bomb isn’t the critical step in weaponization. Figuring out enrichment — what Iran’s doing right now — is.

And now that Bush is gone and the left has to govern, they’re finally free/forced to admit it.

In his news conference this week, President Obama went so far as to describe Iran’s “development of a nuclear weapon” before correcting himself to refer to its “pursuit” of weapons capability.

Obama’s nominee to serve as CIA director, Leon E. Panetta, left little doubt about his view last week when he testified on Capitol Hill. “From all the information I’ve seen,” Panetta said, “I think there is no question that they are seeking that capability.”

The language reflects the extent to which senior U.S. officials now discount a National Intelligence Estimate issued in November 2007 that was instrumental in derailing U.S. and European efforts to pressure Iran to shut down its nuclear program…

U.S. officials said that although no new evidence had surfaced to undercut the findings of the 2007 estimate, there was growing consensus that it provided a misleading picture and that the country was poised to reach crucial bomb-making milestones this year.

Omri Ceren’s entertaining himself by digging through the archives of nutroots blogs for gloating statements at the time about neocon fearmongering having been debunked anew. He gives them more credit than I do by assuming they really were as cretinously gullible as they seemed. I think they knew, or most of them knew, that fanatics fond of by-proxy expansionism aren’t going to risk round after round of economic sanctions just to have their very own little nuclear reactor. And so they used the NIE, in bad faith, for the purpose with which it was intended — as a political tool, to make sure Bush couldn’t take any drastic action to stop the program (which was unlikely anyway). And now, lo and behold, it’s their problem to deal with, except Iran’s that much closer to their goal. Be careful what you wish for, etc.


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i heard him say they have a nuke in that news conference, he tryed to smooth over it but he said it.
wondered if it was a slip, since having his world rocked by an actual National Security briefing as pres he seems different…

trailortrash on February 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM

There isn’t a nuke that can stand up to a well organized, hemp-clad, drum-circle supporting, granola eating protest. No worries.

Laura in Maryland on February 12, 2009 at 6:04 PM

And now, lo and behold, it’s their problem to deal with, except Iran’s that much closer to their goal.

That makes me feel much better…I’m sure they’ll do a great job! I hope there’s some porkulus money for backyard bomb shelters…

AUINSC on February 12, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Did anyone notice after Bambi’s first intelligence briefing after the election, he looked like road kill in the headlights? Nothing can harsh a good mellow like reality.

Laura in Maryland on February 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM

“O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.” — Qur’an 5:51

“O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).” — Qur’an 9:123

“Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.” — Qur’an 98:6

“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29

Capt-Dax on February 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM

“Present”

MDWNJ on February 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM

That NIE result was the #1 most detrimental BDS-related decision ever.

Truly pathetic. Whoever released that information deserves to have criminal charges levied against them.

jimmy the notable on February 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I’m rehearsing by playing Fallout 3 for 20 hours a day. And stocking up on Nuka-Cola. Wish the Israelis would get their elections sorted out, maybe I’ll get to level 20 before then.

Fortunata on February 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Also, Allahpundit, there is a HUGE swath of the nutroots that really believes that everything is a neocon conspiracy. They really were that gullible. Remember when Code Pink went over to Iran?

jimmy the notable on February 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM

[3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

[8.59] And let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape. [8.60] And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to frighten thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them, whom you do not know (but) Allah knows them; and whatever thing you will spend in Allah’s way, it will be paid back to you fully and you shall not be dealt with unjustly.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.

dtestard on February 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Unfortunately, the only proof that the libtards will completely believe that Iran is seeking weapons is a 1000 degree flash of light over a city. Even so, some would deny it.

portlandon on February 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Things just keep gettin’ better and better…

ladyingray on February 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM

and how did Obama respond to the 2007 NIE?

By reporting that Iran halted its nuclear weapon development program four years ago because of international pressure, the new National Intelligence Estimate makes a compelling case for less saber-rattling and more direct diplomacy. The juxtaposition of this NIE with the president’s suggestion of World War III serves as an important reminder of what we learned with the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq: members of Congress must carefully read the intelligence before giving the President any justification to use military force.

He also said:

I think Iran continues to be a threat to some of its neighbors in the region. … But it is absolutely clear that this administration and President Bush continues to not let facts get in the way of his ideology. “

rob verdi on February 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

So, when the smoke clears and the dust settles and we are basking in the one’s glow, er, all of our glows in the middle of the night, will the idiots on the left finally realize that the crack pipe runneth a bit much?

jdubya on February 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

portlandon
it would be Bush’s fault

rob verdi on February 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM

So, when the smoke clears and the dust settles and we are basking in the one’s glow, er, all of our glows in the middle of the night, will the idiots on the left finally realize that the crack pipe runneth a bit much?

jdubya on February 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Not at all…that’s when the truthers will show up to explain that the Jews did it.

AUINSC on February 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM

The prime time presser he slipped and divulged Iran already has a nuclear weapon.
I replayed his answer to the question 4 time via Tivo. He paused after saying it and covered.
Freudian slip.
Wife in other room yelled out, “I heard it”.

I have read nothing anywhere on this apparent slip. I would like to told my interpretation of his answer was incorrect.

FireBlogger on February 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Unfortunately, the only proof that the libtards will completely believe that Iran is seeking weapons is a 1000 degree flash of light over a city. Even so, some would deny it.

portlandon on February 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

We’ve already seen what that denial looks like. Think of the troofers.

trubble on February 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM

There isn’t a nuke that can stand up to a well organized, hemp-clad, drum-circle supporting, granola eating protest. No worries.

Laura in Maryland on February 12, 2009 at 6:04 PM

heh. nice

Weight of Glory on February 12, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Unfortunately, the only proof that the libtards will completely believe that Iran is seeking weapons is a 1000 degree flash of light over a city. Even so, some would deny it.

portlandon on February 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Yep…they’d claim it was the JOOOOOOSSSS trying to frame Iran

Rogue on February 12, 2009 at 6:22 PM

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that they would want a nuke. Well, maybe they’ll accidentally blow themselves up…

SoxNation on February 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM

barry will allow crazy mullahs the nukes, as long as they promise no to use them

runner on February 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that they would want a nuke. Well, maybe they’ll accidentally blow themselves up…

SoxNation on February 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Yeah maybe we can get Billy the Bomber to help with assembly.

thomasaur on February 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Gasp! The NIE was WRONG? Ya mean those people were willing to bear all those sanctions ’cause they really want a nuclear weapon?

Next thing yer gonna tell me is that THEY’LL USE IT!

GarandFan on February 12, 2009 at 6:30 PM

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that they would want a nuke. Well, maybe they’ll accidentally blow themselves up…

SoxNation on February 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Ha. If it is accidental, they’ll blame it on Israel. If Israel does it, they’ll claim its accidental.

genso on February 12, 2009 at 6:30 PM

There gonna blame the Juice.

MDWNJ on February 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

What does he think of sham-wow?

TheSitRep on February 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Ok, so Ogabe knows that Iran wants a bomb, it doesn’t mean he will do anything substantive about it.

Big deal, the fool will still bend over and force Israel to bend over next to us.

Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM

MDWNJ on February 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Win.

spmat on February 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I don’t doubt for a moment that Barry Obama and his one world friends had engineered the NIE to hobble Bush and make their peace overtures. Now that Iran has kicked them out, they are licking their wounds.

promachus on February 12, 2009 at 7:03 PM

So, when the smoke clears and the dust settles and we are basking in the one’s glow, er, all of our glows in the middle of the night, will the idiots on the left finally realize that the crack pipe runneth a bit much?

They’re nihilistic anyway. Plus they figure we all deserve to die anyhow, just for, you know, being us.

Alana on February 12, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Does Obama say nuc-u-lar?

If he does, Iran better watch it.

profitsbeard on February 12, 2009 at 7:46 PM

In his news conference this week, President Obama went so far as to describe Iran’s “development of a nuclear weapon” before correcting himself to refer to its “pursuit” of weapons capability.

“My Muslim, er, Christian faith.”

Disturb the Universe on February 12, 2009 at 7:50 PM

rob verdi on February 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Thank you for reminding us, though little if anything will change, as we are the ones that need to apologize and change our policies. Considering the phrase “war on terror” is not to be used anymore maybe “Iranian Nuclear Capability” will find its way onto the same list, problem solved!

All Hail the Messiah!

dmann on February 12, 2009 at 7:56 PM

Anyone who has a brain stem knows
the north koreans did it all by themselves (after they got the first reactor from russia)

with 10 years (actually they probably had it all ready )
when the Dingbat carter gave them all oral sex in exchange for a worthless piece of paper and 10 years worth of fuel oil and food..

So i can imagine carter and obama both
kissing the iranians ass
in exchange for a piece of toilet paper promising not to build a nuke (in exchange for food, weapons, technology)
and they will sign it like the dingbats they are
While sitting on 55 gallon drums full of uranium at 85% purity

and as soon as they walk out of the room i can see it now
Achmed
yes sir
Purify it one more time..
And then ship it..

jcila on February 13, 2009 at 12:50 AM

BOOM! goes London, and BOOM! Pare-ree,
More room for the mullahs & Ak-ma-johnny.
And every city, the whole mideast round
Will just be another Iranian town!
Oh how peaceful it will be!
Everyone a dim-mee!
Let ‘em drop the Big One now!

Apologies to Randy Newman

Bruno Strozek on February 13, 2009 at 2:04 AM

And Tom Fingar (recently retired DDNI/Analysis) still claims to believe Iran stopped in 2003.

jerryofva on February 13, 2009 at 8:34 AM