Does Obama have a little list? Update: Bush did it, too

posted at 1:10 pm on February 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

One of the little-remarked aspects of Barack Obama’s first prime-time presidential presser involves the process of selecting the questioners.  I hadn’t noticed it, but in the past two days have been asked about whether Obama had preselected reporters rather than allow the White House press corps the customary process of vying for his attention.  The Wall Street Journal’s editors criticized Obama yesterday for his checklist:

About half-way through President Obama’s press conference Monday night, he had an unscripted question of his own. “All, Chuck Todd,” the President said, referring to NBC’s White House correspondent. “Where’s Chuck?” He had the same strange question about Fox News’s Major Garrett: “Where’s Major?”

The problem wasn’t the lighting in the East Room. The President was running down a list of reporters preselected to ask questions. The White House had decided in advance who would be allowed to question the President and who was left out.

Obama seems to have made a decision that the first prime-time appearance was too critical to allow it to go unscripted.  That was doubly true with Porkulus on the line.  He needed to control the message as much as possible, perhaps more concerned about perception of his performance than the substance of the answers.  I’d chalk this up to insecurity more than anything else.

The WSJ opines that George Bush couldn’t have gotten away with this, but that yardstick will get old shortly.  Presidents usually get cut some slack in the first couple of press conferences, just out of courtesy.  I agree that Bush would have gotten immense criticism for this in 2002 forward, but I don’t think it would have been more than a gripe from White House gaggle in 2001, little noticed outside of that particular clique.  Obama got a lot of criticism from the black press for skipping them despite their front-row seating, too, so he didn’t exactly get a pass this week.

That doesn’t make it invalid, but criticism should come from the actual damage this does, and not so much in relation to media behavior in the previous administration.  So what damage does this do?  It makes it look as though Obama’s playing favorites in the media, and certainly his question to Sam Stein of the Huffington Post looked like a deliberate statement.  Other than that and a lack of clear ways for reporters to gain access to the President, though, it’s probably a wash.  Presidents can pick their favorites from the podium, too, and make it less obvious than Obama did on Monday.

Besides, we can expect the national media to give Obama a tongue bath for the next few press conferences, regardless of how he selects the questions.  If Obama annoys them with his little list, perhaps that will motivate them to get tougher with the new administration, and that’s not a bad thing, either.

Update: Ari Fleischer confirms that Bush did the same thing, although perhaps in a more subtle way:

Ari kept him from acknowledging the “dot coms and the oddballs,” which means that Jeff Gannon and Talon must have come during Scott McClellan’s tenure. Right? Not quite; he didn’t get to ask a question of Bush until 2005, but he did get some questions in with Fleischer.

Interestingly, it was this question in 2005 which raised all the ruckus about his bias and blew his cover:

“Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. (Senate Minority Leader) Harry Reid was talking about soup lines. And (Senator) Hillary Clinton was talking about the economy being on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security is rock solid and there’s no crisis there. How are you going to work – you’ve said you are going to reach out to these people – how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?”

How much different from that is this?

You have often said that bipartisanship is extraordinarily important overall and in this stimulus package. But now when we ask your advisers about the lack of bipartisanship so far — zero votes in the House, three in the Senate — they say, well, it’s not the number of votes that matters; it’s the number of jobs that will be created.

Is that a sign that you are moving away, your White House is moving away, from this emphasis on bipartisanship? And what went wrong? Did you underestimate how hard it would be to change the way Washington worked?

Chip Reid works for CBS News. Note that Reid (unlike NPR’s Mara Liasson later in the presser) never challenged Obama on his own failure to offer bipartisanship in the process of creating Porkulus. Instead, Reid makes Obama sound like the victim of “Washington” (read: Republicans). Will anyone out Reid as an oddball and a partisan hack? Because I don’t see much daylight between those two questions.

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Que? Ari Fleisher said Bush did this semi-frequently.

Abby Adams on February 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Obama has a Little List.

and

His supporters have a Little Red Book.

aquaviva on February 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Yes, let’s give Ogabe a chance to get his bearings.

Don’t question him too hard during the first few press conferences, and don’t press him too hard to explain how spending one trillion dollars in mostly pork will create millions of jobs.

Ogabe had all this experience to be POTUS, or so we were told, how dare us expect him to actually utilize it in day to day affairs.

Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Abby’s right. Ari told him what section of journalists to answer questions from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdrbeGRyfGc&eurl=http://townhall.com/blog/page2&feature=player_embedded .

In fairness, I don’t know if Bush continued this practice after Ari left.

latinchic on February 12, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Obama’s celebrating Lincoln’s birthday today he knows that Lincoln was a Republican right?

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/02/buffalo-soldiers-fort-missoula-montana.html

Dr Evil on February 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Does Obama have a little list?

I’m sure Dear Leader’s got all sorts of lists. Some of which it won’t be good to be on.

rbj on February 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Ari Fleisher said Bush did this semi-frequently.

Abby Adams on February 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Yup, apparently the Grasshopper Hussein has learned well.

Kini on February 12, 2009 at 1:17 PM

He’s setting precedent…

By deciding before hand who asks the questions, you will pretty much know what questions will be asked.

By doing this now, and being BLATANT about it, unless the Press calls him on this behaviour, he will be able to continue doing it with impunity.

I mean, in his first Presser he PRE DECIDES HUFF Post gets a question???

Romeo13 on February 12, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Boys, you’re not understandin’ the Chicago way.
You pays yer money, you takes yer chance.

If you’re not on the list- Obama don’t know your name.

And that’s the way it is.

ExTex on February 12, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Que? Ari Fleisher said Bush did this semi-frequently.
Abby Adams on February 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM

So the list of Ogabe actions which mirror that of Bush gets yet another addition.

Change.

Bishop on February 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM

This would be nothing new for presidents. Gibbs wouldn’t be the first WHPS to hand the president a run-down of who to ask questions. As Abby pointed out, Ari Fleisher used to do the same for Bush.

amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I think Stalin had lists.
I also recall Mao had a few lists of his own.
I also bet Castro has some lists.

How can we cut Obama some slack here? He is moving the elitist viewpoint forward by his disdain in answering questions that are too probing.
He may well be insecure, but I am sure it is also a well orchestrated effort in propaganda dissemination.
Ahh. Stalin was a monster, but he was no fool.

Badger40 on February 12, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Now, of course, Obama promised a new era of transparency and accountability in the White House. Having a list of pre-selected reporters to ask pre-selected questions hardly lives up to that promise.

amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Ari Fleisher used to do the same for Bush.

amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Wasn’t right then & isn’t right now.
I thought we were supposed to be experiencing some CHANGE?

Badger40 on February 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Perhaps we should just let Entertainment Tonight ask the questions.
I want to hear all about what Michelle will be wearing next.

Badger40 on February 12, 2009 at 1:23 PM

OT: Rush just gave one of the best monologues on “trickle down” that I’ve ever heard…

Rogue on February 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Obama had preselected reporters rather than allow the White House press corps the customary process of vying for his attention.

Was the sob story in Ft Myers a plant?
Does a bear eat reporters in the woods?
I guess they and the Pres. would have to be pretty hungry desperate.

Speakup on February 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Que? Ari Fleisher said Bush did this semi-frequently.

Abby Adams on February 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I saw Fleisher saying that in an interview recently too. I guess Bush just handled the whole thing more naturally.

Obama fumbles with his list, asks for help from Greg Craig, and says “uh” twice in every sentence, and he’s supposed to be the smooth, articulate one.

forest on February 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Were the questions scripted too? Whomever wrote that stupid question put up by Helen Thomas needs to be fired.

And why was Ed Schwartz sitting in the front row?

Where is Bob Uecker when we need him?

Knucklehead on February 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM

You better
Watch out
You better not say anything to make him lie,
You better not make him shout I’m tellin’ you why,
Obama is in charge of this town,
He’s making a list checking it twice,
Gonna find out who’s naughty or nice,
Obama is in charge of this town

MB4 on February 12, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Ari Fleisher used to do the same for Bush.

amerpundit on February 12, 2009 at 1:20 PM

You are misrepresenting what Ari said…

What he said was that they would seat the Main Stream Press in the center, and he coached Bush to call on people in that AREA…

So… NYT would get questions asked, instead of the Peoples Liberation Newspaper…. or a HuffPo person..

Just a bit different than preselecting questioners via a list…

Romeo13 on February 12, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Why is this a surprise? Obama’s pressers were scripted during the campaign as well. Not to mention his revivals townhalls.

faraway on February 12, 2009 at 1:32 PM

I don’t understand this, BHO has been reading reporters’ names off of a list in every press conference he’s given, since crawling into the White House. Why has no one else noticed this? He did this back when that reporter asked him about Blago and the idiot messiah told him not to waste his question. Have I been seeing things? Because I have seen him look at a list before picking reporters at all his pressers.

progressoverpeace on February 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Yeah, but it’s cool because the list is written on cellophane. For transparency.

Ferris on February 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM

That doesn’t make it invalid, but criticism should come from the actual damage this does, and not so much in relation to media behavior in the previous administration. So what damage does this do?

Ed, I feel you’re still bending over backwards to give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

The actual damage is the damage he is doing to the country over a bill that is nuclear toxic waste. This is no time for the press to play nice or give him a pass.

He is intoxicated with being The One. He is intent on control, control, control. That means control the message and control the media.

INC on February 12, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Whomever wrote that stupid question put up by Helen Thomas needs to be fired.

Knucklehead on February 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Hate to say it because I think she really needs to be put out to pasture…

But her question, while framed from the left, was the only tough specific question asked…

He punted on BOTH parts of her question…

The Nuc question was trying to get him to admit Israel has Nuclear Weps…

The second was to try to pin him down on Pakistan Policy…

Romeo13 on February 12, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Here’s some video from our friends at Think Progress showing Fleischer on O’Reilly. He didn’t say there was a list, but said Bush was encouraged to call on people within the “grid” in front of him, and to avoid those in “Siberia”, which was off to the side.

forest on February 12, 2009 at 1:43 PM

The problem isn’t that Bush did it. The real story here is how did the press (including the Huffington Post since they’re “press” now) react when Bush did it and how they react now.

Skywise on February 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM

What he said was that they would seat the Main Stream Press in the center, and he coached Bush to call on people in that AREA…

Interesting point.

latinchic on February 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Did the list include the question next to each reporter’s name?

petefrt on February 12, 2009 at 1:47 PM

control the message and control the media.

INC on February 12, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Stalin understood this very well.

Badger40 on February 12, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Could this be a transparent government because there’s nothing in there?

Mazztek on February 12, 2009 at 1:47 PM

So Bush didn’t waste time with “the dot-coms and oddballs,” to whom Osama Obama naturally gravitates.

There have been stories about “planted” questions and preferred questioners throughout the history of presidential press conferences, but I don’t think anyone has been as blatant about it as the New Guy.

But then no previous president has had such a stunning deficit in experience, knowledge and problem-solving skills as this clown.

MrScribbler on February 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I have no interest in questions from Obama’s trained poodles (What did you eat for breakfast this morning, Messiah?) or in his non-answer answers.

I don’t know why they bother even holding these things.

Let the DNC write it up and papers report it whatever the DNC wants them to. That’s what the due anyway, let’s end the charade.

NoDonkey on February 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM

As predicted, anything hopeymcchangecokesnorter does is golden. Even if they are the exact same things Bush did and was raked over the coals.

We thought that journalism died in 2008? It is still alive and lying in 09.

jukin on February 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM

The next step for Bush-did-it-ism is when Obama bars credentialed journalists at the door. Jerome Corsi was barred from DOT Mexican truck conferences despite writing more on the topic than any other journalist.

Buddahpundit on February 12, 2009 at 1:58 PM

We thought that journalism died in 2008? It is still alive and lying in 09.

It reached rock bottom and commenced drilling deeper.

At least the left is for drilling something.

NoDonkey on February 12, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Obama calling on The Huffington Post would have been like Bush calling on Rush Limbaugh.

Speedwagon82 on February 12, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Update: Bush did it, too

But did Lincoln do it? I thought that Obama was suppose to be Lincoln II not Bush II or Bush IIb.

MB4 on February 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Carol Marin, of the Chicago Sun-Times, wrote about this in January saying,

“The press corps, most of us, don’t even bother raising our hands any more to ask questions because Obama always has before him a list of correspondents who’ve been advised they will be called upon that day.”

This after he famously refused to answer any questions from the Chicago media at the time of Rezko’s indictment.

And some of you mention that he’s a control freak. Check out this tidbit from the second linked Sun-Times article,

“But here’s a guy who, according to a recent Tribune profile of his wife, Michelle, was so scrupulous about the details of life that he actually went with her on a job interview just to make sure her potential employer was up to snuff.”

You’ve heard about helicopter parents. How about that helicopter husband?

Sensible Mom on February 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Ok Bush had a list, but did he call the reporters ahead to time and tell them we was oging to call on them? Also, if they get a call ahead of time, is the question they will be asking discussed?

bopbottle on February 12, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Actualy, this very thread shows the power of a Headline.

If you listen to what Ari said, he did NOT do the same thing as Obama’s folks…

Obama’s folks gave him a LIST of people to call on, in what order…

Ari seated people in Sections, and gave Bush a grid of who was sitting where… telling him to only call on people in the MSM…

Yet, because the HEADLINE is Bush did it TO! Thats what most of the posters are posting on…

Interesting how powerfull a Headline, or Press source, can be…

Romeo13 on February 12, 2009 at 2:09 PM

“Obama calling on The Huffington Post would have been like Bush calling on Rush Limbaugh.”

No, Obama calling on The Huffington Post would have been like Bush calling on Alan Keyes.

Sensible Mom on February 12, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Is this really news? This is why press staff and PR people exist – to control the message and image.

Every major public figure in the modern era has done this or employed people to do it for them. Even Reagan had handlers who controlled the press and media for him.

cornfedbubba on February 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Um Jeff Gannon at Talon News.

Sam Stein of the Huffington Post is a good reporter that will post negative stories about Obama.

getalife on February 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM

If you listen to what Ari said, he did NOT do the same thing as Obama’s folks…

Obama’s folks gave him a LIST of people to call on, in what order…

Ari seated people in Sections, and gave Bush a grid of who was sitting where… telling him to only call on people in the MSM…

Uh, no…http://www.observer.com/node/47257

“In fact, the only moment of candor [of the March 6, 2003 Press Conference] may have come when Mr. Bush admitted during the conference that he was calling on reporters according to his pre-arranged list of names, which his press secretary, Ari Fleischer, later copped to preparing.

cornfedbubba on February 12, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Oh, and here is what Obama did when the Sun-Times reporters Michael Novak and Carol Marin pressed him for 5 weeks for an answer about Rezko,

“We didn’t know it then, but while Novak and I were staking out the senator’s big, black SUV parked outside, he was giving a quiet private interview to the Tribune about the wrongheadedness of the Sun-Times’ story.

Meanwhile, an Obama staffer, sent to watch us, nimbly Blackberried our movements to someone inside.

Suddenly, bodyguards pulled the SUV down into a parking garage, grabbed Obama, and with wheels squealing, sped out and away.

Maybe it was the image of that getaway, played on the 5 o’clock news, that finally persuaded Obama to hastily call a news conference to which Novak was not invited but managed to find out about anyway.”

Yep that’s right. He gave an exclusive to the competition stating that the Sun-Times was wrong with their reporting and never answered any questions other than to say his real estate deal with Rezko was boneheaded. One year later he finally opened up to the Sun-Times and all was forgiven. His relationship with Rezko was now “entirely plausible” to the liberal reporter, Marin.

Sensible Mom on February 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM

FoxNews, National Review, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Times, fuhgeddaboudit. Next question to a President in January 2013.

Steve Z on February 12, 2009 at 2:28 PM

cornfedbubba on February 12, 2009 at 2:15 PM

thankyou, I had never seen that before…

I stand corrected…

But in my own defense, this evidence, which is pretty conclusive, was NOT what was used as the justification for the headline….

Romeo13 on February 12, 2009 at 2:31 PM

All this tangling with the Chicago Sun-Times reporters, who Obama had staffers track with their Blackberries according to Carol Marin, led to the famous press conference where he complained that “I answered like eight questions” as he skulked away from reporters.

Obama is never going to have a press conference where he doesn’t plan who will be asking questions or what, in fact, those questions will be.

He played his fawning hometown media for fools. It won’t be any different with the national media.

Sensible Mom on February 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Um Jeff Gannon at Talon News.

Sam Stein of the Huffington Post is a good reporter that will post negative stories about Obama.

getalife on February 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Apparently the only question that Gannon ever got to ask was an excellent question that was very negative on Bush. He basically pointed out that Bush was trying to work with psychopaths and questioned why that was a good idea.

Buddahpundit on February 12, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Apparently the only question that Gannon ever got to ask was an excellent question that was very negative on Bush. He basically pointed out that Bush was trying to work with psychopaths and questioned why that was a good idea.

But he’s GAY!!!

Jim Treacher on February 12, 2009 at 3:02 PM

“The press corps, most of us, don’t even bother raising our hands any more to ask questions because Obama always has before him a list of correspondents who’ve been advised they will be called upon that day.”

Sensible Mom on February 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM

And that is different from what Ari said Bush did.

xblade on February 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM

I remember several times watching W’s press conferences and hearing reporters shout out questions.

That’s not the case w/Dear Leader or Gibbs.

Ari’s explanation makes sense though.

Dubn8tr on February 12, 2009 at 4:29 PM

I noticed a few things myself:

The questions where scripted. Watch the reporters asking them. Quite a few of them seemed like they had no idea what they where asking and just reading off a sheet

The other thing is the one unscripted question at the end, where Obama turned around and ignored it and walked off stage

LordDaMan on February 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Ari Fleischer confirms that Bush did the same thing, although perhaps in a more subtle way

Except that’s not what fleischer said. He said he let Bush know where the nutjobs were. Bush called on hardcore partisan reporters constantly including helen thomas. It actually used to annoy me that he seemed to not call on more reporters from more objective or conservative outlets.

peacenprosperity on February 13, 2009 at 6:46 AM

He played his fawning hometown media for fools. It won’t be any different with the national media.

Sensible Mom on February 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM

But he’s good at this. As an attorney, he undoubtedly learned how one does not leave any element of the case open ended — and you especially don’t cede any “airtime” in front of the jury to hostile witnesses. You try to contain their testimony and channel it to make the points you need to make for your client.

But what works in front of the jury gets old pretty fast in politics.

unclesmrgol on February 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM