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It begins: Obama shelves Bush plan to open more coastal waters to drilling

posted at 8:18 pm on February 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Via Gateway Pundit, noting that there’s already a bill to ban drilling in ANWR floating around in Congress. If Palin’s looking for a foothold in the national debate, here’s her chance:

On Tuesday, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar ordered the plan be put on hold while his agency conducts a 180-day review of the country’s offshore oil and gas resources. Salazar’s critical comments about the plan signaled that the new administration will seek to rewrite it if not completely scrap it.

The Bush proposal “opened the possibility of oil and gas leases along the entire Eastern seaboard, portions of offshore California and the far eastern Gulf of Mexico with almost no consultation from states, industry or community input,” Salazar said at a news conference in Washington. “In my view it was a headlong rush of the worst kind.”…

Salazar did not directly address the bigger question: Whether Obama will seek to renew the three-decade-old presidential moratorium on drilling off most of the East and West coasts, which Bush lifted last July amid growing public anger over soaring gas prices…

The plan would have allowed drilling on 44 million acres of federal waters off Humboldt and Mendocino counties, and 89 million acres off San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura, Los Angeles and San Diego counties.

Exit question: Yes, granted, it’ll take years to start pulling the resources out of those waters. Even so, why wouldn’t a guy who’ll be in office potentially until 2016, who’s staring at a multi-year economic crisis and a nuclear arms race in the most critical energy region on the planet, want to plan ahead for bad contingencies by starting to drill now?


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seejanemom on February 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM

I’m thinking long term. I don’t expect an overnight collapse, but more of a creeping decay and am gearing what I do in that direction.

Disappearing into the lake country up north is the first step.

Bishop on February 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Perhaps you could get a Unicorn license? Nothing like a freezer full of Unicorn meat.

catmman on February 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Or pulling into work on the back of one :)

yakwill83 on February 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

The first three weeks are even worse than I thought they would be.

lavell12 on February 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Celebrate the Liberal Change!

Now that Hopey is in Washington,his
words declared,that new things need to
be tried!

Not going back to the same old ways!

Everything needs to be looked at,its
a crisis,DoomsDay,no time to be looking
back!

Hopey says he’s lookin ahead!

And the OLD WAYS OF WASHINGTON ARE GONE!!

canopfor on February 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I think we should produce soylent fuel with those folks who can’t keep it to two kids. It will help the environment in the long run.

tomas on February 10, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Exit question: Yes, granted, it’ll take years to start pulling the resources out of those waters. Even so, why wouldn’t a guy who’ll be in office potentially until 2016, who’s staring at a multi-year economic crisis and a nuclear arms race in the most critical energy region on the planet, want to plan ahead for bad contingencies by starting to drill now?

Because he’s an idiot??

Dritanian on February 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Dutch ovens and wood fires; if you can’t cook it with the dutch, you probably don’t need it. Homemade bread is no problem.

Get out of the city, they will become abattoirs eventually.

Bishop on February 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Dutch ovens are great, we cook all kinds of things in them from pizza to pot roast.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

I don’t know why everyone is so worried about gas prices. In a couple months we’ll get all of our energy from sunny days and summer breezes…..

darwin-t on February 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

I suggest that it would not. Obama will never join them or assist them, and no one else in the middle east wants any part of them, besides the fact that they all hate Iran and fear a nuke in their hands.

Jaibones on February 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Then he’s going to have to sacrifice some more Americans because Iran WILL at least attack the fleet in the Gulf in an attempt to draw us into it. The attack will likely kill some Americans.

johnsteele on February 10, 2009 at 9:10 PM

I’m feeling pretty good. I have a back yard garden and I know how to can/presever vegetables.

What the hell are those liberals in the high rise apartment buildings in the NY, Chicago, LA going to eat?

But then again, I’m not sure I really care.

Dumb Asses!

PappaMac on February 10, 2009 at 9:11 PM

I expect the price of oil to jump in the coming week or 2. and gas will rebound to about 2.50 a gallon, nationally.

todler on February 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Can anyone name a politician who has ever even been to ANWR to take a look around? (outside of the obvious Ms. Palin)

sherry on February 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM

About ten GOP congressmen went up there last summer and met with Palin.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Morons. No other country on earth ties its own hands this way.

brak on February 10, 2009 at 9:13 PM

I expect the price of oil to jump in the coming week or 2. and gas will rebound to about 2.50 a gallon, nationally.

todler on February 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM

And Obama and his buddies will blame ExxonMobile, Shell, et al

johnsteele on February 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Unless there is a high tax on this oil, I oppose drilling on our coast, and I’m certainly well aware of the threats in the Middle East. But if it makes oil cheap, people will just buy SUVs and waste it. And the libertarians will whine that I’m being evil for not wanting people to have the right to waste massive amounts of oil in gas-guzzlers. Either we are serious about the Middle East threat or we aren’t. And I have no evidence that we are serious about Islam’s dreams of world domination. In the absence of seriousness about the international situation, just let the coastal regions be.

thuja on February 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Unless there is a high tax on this oil, I oppose drilling on our coast, and I’m certainly well aware of the threats in the Middle East. But if it makes oil cheap, people will just buy SUVs and waste it. And the libertarians will whine that I’m being evil for not wanting people to have the right to waste massive amounts of oil in gas-guzzlers. Either we are serious about the Middle East threat or we aren’t. And I have no evidence that we are serious about Islam’s dreams of world domination. In the absence of seriousness about the international situation, just let the coastal regions be.

thuja on February 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Your logic is simply stunning /sarc

johnsteele on February 10, 2009 at 9:15 PM

If Israel attacks Iran, there will be total chaos in the region. Iranian terror proxies -who have the potential to make AQ look like pikers- could wake up world-wide sleeper cells. And make no mistake, the Strait of Hormuz will not be safe for shipping. We should also not forget that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Muslims will unite. Chaos. The markets don’t like chaos.

toliver on February 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM

If Israel attacks Iran, there will be total chaos in the region. Iranian terror proxies -who have the potential to make AQ look like pikers- could wake up world-wide sleeper cells. And make no mistake, the Strait of Hormuz will not be safe for shipping. We should also not forget that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Muslims will unite. Chaos. The markets don’t like chaos.

toliver on February 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Don’t forget they are sleeping here too.

johnsteele on February 10, 2009 at 9:17 PM

I am beginning to think we are really lucky nobody has the asssets to actually invade us at some point, not that they have to for us to pander to them and overlooking the illegals coming in from the Mexican border.

Bama is passing up a huge chance to keep a lot of money in the US, employ a lot of people and real energy independence, as much as we can hope for, in the global economy.

CA particularly has had its head wedged firmly in its nether regions by the envrionazis as considerable revenue could accrue to the state without much delay and very few new offshore rigs, due to directional drilling technology that didn’t exist in the 1970’s.

Well, only 16% of construction workers are the right kind of people to benefit from the “stimulus”, so Bama better pay his dues to the other group of nazis who help elect him and Democrats.

I think I will start reading about subsistence farming.

And buy another gun.

Harry Schell on February 10, 2009 at 9:17 PM

It is also worth noting that the US sits atop MASSIVE coal reserves. The USA has more coal reserves than any nation on earth or which translates to more than 25 percent of the world’s recoverable coal reserves and supplies 50% of the electricity generated.

This administration is drinking the global warming kool-aid or is at least saying it does so as to provide the mandate for reducing our ability to use our massive coal resources.

The guy’s policies are dangerously ill conceived and short sighted.

moxie_neanderthal on February 10, 2009 at 9:20 PM

So I guess we will be paving and repaving all of this new infrastructure with foreign oil products? How’s that gonna look? Yeah I know, it’s Bush’s fault.

JeffinOrlando on February 10, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Salazar just extended the public comment time by 6 months so you can send a comment to the Mineral Management Agency to support drilling. I have the link somewhere I’ll go find it and post it. I got this from API today.

WASHINGTON – American Petroleum Institute President Jack Gerard today issued the following statement on Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s announcement that he would extend the Outer Continental Shelf Five-Year Plan comment period by 180 days:
“Congress made the American people wait nearly 30 years to address our immediate energy challenges. Secretary Salazar today told the American people they must continue to wait – even though more than two-thirds of them want to tap our vast domestic resources for the benefit of all Americans.

“The accelerated Outer Continental Shelf five-year plan process, which the secretary placed on hold today, was designed to address the critical energy concerns facing Americans. The draft plan already received a record 120,000 comments from states, environmental groups, industry, labor groups and members of the public – with 87,000 of those comments supporting expanded and expeditious development.

Secretary Salazar’s announcement means that development of our offshore resources could be stalled indefinitely. That would delay Americans’ access to nearly 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state and local governments and greater energy security.

We share Secretary Salazar’s view that America needs a comprehensive energy policy that includes alternatives. In these tough economic times, Salazar’s delay does a disservice to all Americans. We should be moving as quickly as possible to develop more of our own oil and natural gas to benefit all Americans.”

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:21 PM

why wouldn’t a guy who’ll be in office potentially until 2016, who’s staring at a multi-year economic crisis and a nuclear arms race in the most critical energy region on the planet, want to plan ahead for bad contingencies by starting to drill now?

It’s simple. He wants to destroy the country so he can have the excuse to institute a Marxist state. This – not reelection – is his primary goal. (He could, if necessary, pass the wand to another Marxist.)

Everything he ever does makes total sense when you realize this is the goal.

Everything in his whole life – his upbringing, family, studies, friends – all points obviously in this direction.

Regarding gas, remember when he said he thought that $4 a gallon would be about right?

He likes to tell us what we are going to pay for things. Along with how much we are going to make, how much of that we can keep, what kind of medical care we will get, what food we’ll eat, who we will spread our wealth to, what we can say and where, and what cars we’ll drive.

Not him alone, of course. This is a concerted effort by many, of which he is the mere figurehead. However, he views himself as something more than figurehead. Much more.

Alana on February 10, 2009 at 9:21 PM

In the absence of seriousness about the international situation, just let the coastal regions be. thuja on February 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Umm… may I help you?

Mojave Mark on February 10, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Because Obama (and Pelosi and Obey and Waxman and Reid) want to destroy American capitalism one sector at a time. Right now, they are concentrating on the health sector and the financial/banking sectors. Nationalization and a command economy seem to be their goal.

Salazar is a Greenie. He will march to the Goreacle’s Crisis Agenda.

In this case it should be interesting to see where the oil futures go from here. Likely they will go up. I predict we’ll be seeing gasoline prices at around 4 dollars a gallon again this summer. When you add the projected 1 dollar a gallon gasoline tax we should be looking at $5 per gallon within the next two years.

All thanks to Obama and his cult.

Mr Gus on February 10, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Do you remember when Obama wasn’t concerned about the rising fuel prices last summer? He remarked that he didn’t think that the situation would happen so soon. The object of the Dems’ dream is to make gasoline so unaffordable for the “masses,” (for that is how they think of us) that we would have no choice but to accept their green alternatives or use government-provided public transportation.

These people have so much hubris in fancying themselves better decision makers than we citizens are. Do they not know that they work for us and not the other way around? (There is a perfect video clip of Kerry over at “The Corner” that demonstrates the audacity of the Lefties.)

onlineanalyst on February 10, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Well he did say he thought we weren’t paying enough for gas. Guess this is one way to make sure the price goes UP!

Now doesn’t everyone feel better? Oh, and if the poor complain, fuck ‘em. “I won” covers it.

GarandFan on February 10, 2009 at 9:24 PM

I expect the price of oil to jump in the coming week or 2. and gas will rebound to about 2.50 a gallon, nationally.

todler on February 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM

About two months ago the price of a gallon ’round here was $1.63 and now it’s $1.97. 34 cents and nobody noticed? Maybe when it passes the $2 mark…

Tuning Spork on February 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM

All my liberal friends are still too busy celebrating to even take notice of ANY of the things he’s doing.

herrevery on February 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Dutch ovens are great, we cook all kinds of things in them from pizza to pot roast.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Not more than a day or two ago I was discussing that very
method of cooking and what you can in one…
It’s interesting what people are thinking about and what’s important… basics.

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Remember, we have to bankrupt those oil companies.

Glenn Jericho on February 10, 2009 at 9:29 PM

It’s simple. He wants to destroy the country so he can have the excuse to institute a Marxist state. This – not reelection – is his primary goal. (He could, if necessary, pass the wand to another Marxist.)

I guess they don’t want to grow old to see what they have screwed up?

izoneguy on February 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM

We already do.

****40 year old Xer who blames boomers for just about everything…and will heap more blame on y’all when, in 2010, you all crest retirement age and COMPLETELY BUST WALL STREET WIDE ASS OPEN when you all try to sell at once. THANK YOU Sarbanes-Oxley******

Yeah…I’m bitter.

Well, maybe with any luck, they will be rationing health care for seniors by then, and you can watch us all die off in pain and misery.

Alana on February 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM

The funny part is that oil rigs actually create fisheries as artificial reefs so they are a net benefit for marine life. Another thing is natural seepages leak far more oil into those same areas and tapping them stops that thus improving the areas for marine life. All while creating high paying union jobs and generating government revenue through leases and royalty payments.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:31 PM

“headlong rush” (b.s., Washingtonian) – - – acting on any proposed course of action opposed by the speaker which has been pending for less than 20 years.

BD57 on February 10, 2009 at 9:31 PM

This should be putty in Palin’s hands.

Obama just made a rash and idiotic decision. He thinks that “green energy” is going to replace an abundant source. Green energy has amounted to crap. It is a vehicle to get Soros more money and power. Soros is after all the puppet master in this administration. Campaign money talk$ for Obama.

jencab on February 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Alana on February 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM

I got it now. This is how Obama is going to rescue Social Security.

PappaMac on February 10, 2009 at 9:34 PM

The 180 day review is so not to study offshore oil and gas resources. This is the biggest joke on the flock. Each week the “rig count” for the world is published. The at a glance information for the rig count is no more complicated than how many rigs more or less are in service. It is no secret what the capacity of a rig is provided there is no additional stimulation or fracturing. The 180 day review is to observe reaction from the flock in a period when the pump is tipping at 2 bucks and the barrel is bouncing down at 40 bucks. Listen to what bleats are discernable from the feild discussing today’s market versus last July’s when the pump was over 4 bucks and the barrel was hitting 150. Ain’t no good simple answer.

Fortunetellers can suggest what might happen and they often get published and they can also be seemingly accurate. The fortunetellers are just as surprised that they got it right as we might be. To a politician, the most important fortuneteller has to be his public acceptance – his approval rating. 180 days lands us right back at the feet of the month of July. What is the opposite of revisionist history? Wanting not to drill? I think not. I know of no service company that is curtailing new work – yes, they have slackened off on working the expensive existing wells but not the ones that offer a profit at 40 bucks a barrel. The O wants to stand for oil too. He wants to stand in front of it with his cape gently wafting behind him as we praise him for delivering us our domestic oil.

ericdijon on February 10, 2009 at 9:36 PM

What the hell are those liberals in the high rise apartment buildings in the NY, Chicago, LA going to eat?

Each other.

Libs already have the zombified appearance, they might as well go the rest of the way.

Bishop on February 10, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Hey, I just thought of something! (Yay for me!)

An insurgent is someone who tries to change the system from within.

Terrorists in Iraq were dubbed “insurgents” by the MSM because they wanted to lend their grievances legitimacy by “new-speaking” (as it were) the dictionary’s definition of the word “insurgent” to the word “terrorist”.

So now the word “insurgent” is synonymous in peoples’ minds with the definition of “terrorist”.

Shall we all presume, from this day forward, to call Barack Obama what he is — an insurgent?

Tuning Spork on February 10, 2009 at 9:37 PM

A trip to The Appleseed Project wouldn’t hurt, either.

seejanemom on February 10, 2009 at 9:03 PM

I checked this out and looked at their schedule. Only the state of MN was already sold out. WTH is up with that?!?

cjs1943 on February 10, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Democrats- the hands of OPEC.

drjohn on February 10, 2009 at 9:40 PM

At what point do the ignorant masses wake up? All day today I’ve been coming to this site to read up on what’s going on…I’ve tried to talk to a few people about it and they haven’t a clue as to what this means for them or this country…

CCRWM on February 10, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Not a surprise.

Dumb move which will hurt our country, but not surprising at all.

cs89 on February 10, 2009 at 9:41 PM

I got it now. This is how Obama is going to rescue Social Security.

PappaMac on February 10, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Yeah. All of that and, like Mac, grant amnesty to all those illegals who will, of course, pay tax penalties and become outstanding citizens (never mind that such policies are discriminatory to those who are trying to get here legally).

Anyway, when we’re all reduced to serfdom, we can pay for the political elite and hope for a paltry check from the gub’mint when they’re done spending our money.

Cody1991 on February 10, 2009 at 9:41 PM

You can go here to submit a comment to the Mineral Managment Service about the five year plan and learn more about it.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Just wait until gas goes to $3/$4 again.

danking70 on February 10, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Why do we have a TRAITOR as presidente?

James on February 10, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Think of the manufacturing and peripheral support jobs that would blossom if we drilled, mined, and refined our own resources with gusto. Or is that too much of a stimulus for the Dem overlords?

onlineanalyst on February 10, 2009 at 9:45 PM

The first three weeks are even worse than I thought they would be.

lavell12 on February 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I agree. And I blame McCain and the “moderate” RINOs. Bob Dole ran a more vigorous campaign. Now we’re stuck with That One and a GOP that is far too comfortable as a minority party. We are so screwed.

Zorro on February 10, 2009 at 9:46 PM

why wouldn’t a guy who’ll be in office potentially until 2016, who’s staring at a multi-year economic crisis and a nuclear arms race in the most critical energy region on the planet, want to plan ahead for bad contingencies by starting to drill now?

Silly goose. In 10 years, by the guidance of The Great and Merciful Lord Barack Obama, we’ll all be riding around in flying cars like the Jetsons. We won’t need gasoline!

Mr_Magoo on February 10, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Take a few minutes from griping about it here and go place a comment with the Dept. of Interior.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:48 PM

His ultimate goal is to rule for the next 40 years, not 16. And with the bend-over Repubs and ignorant, apothetic public he just might succeed.

uncalheels on February 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM

I don’t want to hear anymore BS from Obama or the Democrats about their desire for energy independence. It’s a lie.
He continues to confuse electricity generation with fuel for automobiles claiming wind and solar will make us energy independent when they have ZERO to do one another.

The Marxists are going to cripple us. Our enemies will attack while we are weak.

DerKrieger on February 10, 2009 at 9:53 PM

This above all proves that porkulus is FRAUDULENT. If Big O were really interested in jobs and production, he would let us produce our own energy.

Go, Sarah!

PattyJ on February 10, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Wow, shelving a plan that would actually create jobs and lead us to energy independence. Makes a lot of sense to me.

nazo311 on February 10, 2009 at 10:04 PM

I just got this related tidbit from Americans for Tax Relief.

While many of you have probably been focusing on the passage of the Pelosi-Obama-Reid Spending Package, Congress is also actively trying to restrict your property rights by passing the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009.
This bill is being pushed by left-wing environmentalists to purposely block public lands to prevent fossil fuel extraction and exploration. This bill will undercut current progress toward affordable domestic energy by essentially “stealing” 300 million barrels of proven oil and 8.8 trillion cubic feet of natural gas from any future use.
Tell your member of Congress to Vote against the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009!

goat on February 10, 2009 at 10:04 PM

The revolution is coming, OR the big Mushroom Cloud hits.
Either way, this country is toast.

Offshore_Drilling on February 10, 2009 at 10:07 PM

nazo311 on February 10, 2009 at 10:04 PM

API eestimates it will cost 160,000 jobs and remove 1.7 trillion dollars from government coffers enough to pay for the porkulus.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 10:09 PM

By all means………..

……. there are no jobs for Americans or a revenue generating asset that we could sell to the rest of the world after taking care of our own.

Shut it down…………….. Shut it down, NOW!!!

Seven Percent Solution on February 10, 2009 at 10:10 PM

In 1977 the Dept of Energy was formed to lessen our dependence on foriegn oil. 32 years later we are 31% more dependent on foriegn oil than we were back then. They have 16,000 employees and an annual budget of 27.6 million dollars. Keep up the good work.

milwife88 on February 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Hey goat,

is that S.22?

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Remember when Hillary and John McCain talked about how they would be “ready on day one” and “hit the ground running” and how Obama wouldn’t be ready. They were SO right. Consider this:

Obama signs order to close Gitmo. What are you going to do with the detainees? We’re going to study it.

Obama promises to withdraw from Iraq in 16 months? Now: We’re looking at a plan for 23 months.

Obama promised to surge in Afghanistan. Now: We are going to study it further.

Obama said last night that they will be reviewing the policy of allowing media to cover the return of military caskets.

Obama said last night that he is having his foreign policy team review existing policy toward Iran.

And now, he wants a 180-day review of the country’s offshore oil drilling policy.

Boy, they weren’t kidding about him not being ready on day one. Didn’t he ever think any of these things through during his two-year campaign. And, during December, when he was playing golf and running through the surf showing off his pecs couldn’t he have been working on some of these issues

Seriously, with all of the time spent “reviewing” and “studying” everything, not to mention all of the time he wants to spend “listening” to others, when is he going to actually do something besides browbeat the country into accepting his crappy stimulus bill?

JohnInCA on February 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Dutch ovens are great, we cook all kinds of things in them from pizza to pot roast.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM

The only dutch ovens I ever heard of involved blankets….

Has The Goricle outlawed them yet?

darwin-t on February 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM

I don’t know the Senate bill number.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Elections have consequences.

t.ferg on February 10, 2009 at 10:18 PM

I wonder if it’s part of this one…dlb wammy

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:19 PM

It is all about control. Guns are the next target.

Johan Klaus on February 10, 2009 at 10:20 PM

FWIW: I have received mailing from the Senate Conservatives Fund, a PAC that Sen. Jim DeMint is involved with. It has many items on its agenda that HotAir conservatives and libertarians would champion. On of their beliefs is that we should be “utilizing that abound on our own soil”.

The PAC wants to build a grassroots conservative organization, build a campaign war chest to take the Senate back, create a 50-state network to alert members, and develop a war room to counter lies, smears, and leftist propaganda.

There is no website listed, but the address on the donation envelope is Senate Conservatives Fund; National Processing Center; P O Box 131568, Houston, TX 77219-1568.

I admire Sen.DeMint. He has been a vocal champion against this “Stimulus” bill and for other conservative causes. Let’s roll with some monetary support to have a positive impact on the 2010 senatorial race.

onlineanalyst on February 10, 2009 at 10:20 PM

That first paragraph should read “utilizing natural resources that abound on our own soil”.

onlineanalyst on February 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM

also here in more detail

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM

“Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it’s an opportunity to do things you couldn’t do before.” White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel

They want the crisis. They need the crisis. The worse and the more varied the better. This will be the crisis administration. With multiple stimuls bills and various other emergency measures. The Pelosi and Obama teams want to fundamentally change this country, period. The only way you can do this is to fan the flames of doom and gloom and push things through congress quickly.

It is demonstrably true that Obama and Pelosi are taking steps to fundamentally alter major components of how our society operates. As someone from the medical side of the ledger, the ramifications of the current provisions within this bill are staggering.

Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey

It is worthwhile noting that this is just ONE component involving healthcare that is part of an across the board agenda. The ramifications are huge once these things are amplified by time, budgetary and bureaucractic expansion.

This no drill policy is just helping set the stage for more emergencies to come. For $400 million that the bill provides, he should be able to pay for a global warming climate change emergency.

moxie_neanderthal on February 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM

The only dutch ovens I ever heard of involved blankets
darwin-t on February 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Its a big cast iron pot with legs designed for cooking with hot coals.

goat on February 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Hey, here’s reason #1,000 or more to thank the swing voters who shrugged their shoulders and voted for Obama because he couldn’t be as off-the-wall liberal as those bad conservatives said.

Morons. Thanks.

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Just wait until gas goes to $3/$4 again.

danking70 on February 10, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I think that Obama said that he would be happy with ten dollar a gallon gasoline.

Johan Klaus on February 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Disappearing into the lake country up north is the first step.

Bishop on February 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

No room here. You wouldn’t like it… ;-)

But I’m ready. Two hundred acres, very few, distant neighbors. Right mix of guns and sufficient ammo. Canned food, water and paper products stored away. Abundant and healthy deer herd in the backyard eight months of the year. Game birds in my woods. Fishing nearby. Own water well. Stored fuel.

So… I sit, and wait, and watch.

Yoop on February 10, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Oh… and a dutch oven and a cast iron frying pan. :-)

Yoop on February 10, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Does anyone else get the irony of Salazar complaining about a “headlong rush” in light of the headlong rush to pass the Porkulus bill?

The Opinionator on February 10, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Yoop,
hows the fishin’?

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:40 PM

So what about all the people who are going to be out of work because of this reversal of policy? I thought The One was going to magically create jobs, not take them away.

He’s a friggin’ tool. Hate him.

NoLeftTurn on February 10, 2009 at 10:41 PM

FYI…s22 is over 1200 Pages long… wow…

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Just wait until gas goes to $3/$4 again.

danking70 on February 10, 2009 at 9:43 PM

By the end of the year. Russia and Iran can’t let oil remain at it’s current price for much longer.

thomasaur on February 10, 2009 at 10:43 PM

“Exit question: Yes, granted, it’ll take years to start pulling the resources out of those waters. Even so, why wouldn’t a guy who’ll be in office potentially until 2016, who’s staring at a multi-year economic crisis and a nuclear arms race in the most critical energy region on the planet, want to plan ahead for bad contingencies by starting to drill now?”

Cause the lower we sink the more dependent we get on them. It is a win win for Neo Marxist’s when the country loses.

America1st on February 10, 2009 at 10:43 PM

In his morally inverted mind, this was the only possible decision. Nothing else was ever considered.

Palin should lead an Alaskan secession movement.

rrpjr on February 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:42 PM

So is that the bill ATR was talking about?

goat on February 10, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Yoop,
hows the fishin’?

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 10:40 PM

I haven’t fished in years. Too many tournaments. Kind of burned out on it, but could if I needed food.

But, to answer your question, the walleyes were average last summer but they are doing OK from the ice this winter. Jumbo perch are a bit sparse this year. Lake trout-good. Salmon-average. Pike-easy. Muskie-always difficult.

Now… the deer. PLEASE, come and help yourself.

Yoop on February 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM

On Tuesday, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar ordered the plan be put on hold while his agency conducts a 180-day review of the country’s offshore oil and gas resources.

ALWAYS a review.

Hawkins1701 on February 10, 2009 at 11:05 PM

So, they lied about off-shore drilling. Lying Democrats. Lying Liars. Say anything to get elected and it’ll be okay because the idiots that wanted this guy, got him and don’t have to pay attention anymore.

I swear our country’s favorite TV show is Short Attention Span Theater.

Suckas!!!!

hawkdriver on February 10, 2009 at 11:09 PM

The Liberal Media railed after the Republican Revolution that they’d go all power hungry and drive the country too far to the right.

These liberal fatherless rodents have no honor. Power drunk despots!

hawkdriver on February 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM

goat on February 10, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Maybe…this thing is a conglomeration of about 8-10 different bills…
I’m still reading it (speedily)…but I think so.

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Now… the deer. PLEASE, come and help yourself.

Yoop on February 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM

And I got a killer recipe…um um um…
May wonder up that way someday…you never know.

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM

And I got a killer recipe…um um um…
May wonder up that way someday…you never know.

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM

LOL…. Braised Bambi? Fed that to the X girlfriend once… she was NOT amused.

Romeo13 on February 10, 2009 at 11:23 PM

It is all about control. Guns are the next target.

Johan Klaus on February 10, 2009 at 10:20 PM

King George levied tax after tax on the colonists. They had troops in their homes. etc …

But what started the Revolution? When the British came for the powder and arms at Concord and Lexington.

Let them come and get them.

AZ_Redneck on February 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Anyone else suddenly feeling like maybe we should have given Ron Paul a second look?

RightWinged on February 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Hey goat,
page 625 of this bill talks heavily of conservation of natural resources in Heritage Areas
I’m beginning to believe this is the beast…what a monster…

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 11:28 PM

RightWinged on February 10, 2009 at 11:26 PM

point well taken…

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Russia and Iran can’t let oil remain at it’s current price for much longer.

thomasaur on February 10, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Sorry to harsh your buzz, but Russia and Iran are two of the most incompetent governments in world history. They don’t have control over their own bowel movements, much less the world oil price market.

Get real.

Jaibones on February 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Translation of everything Obama is saying lately:

We must pass the bills fast, the pork is starting to rot!

profitsbeard on February 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Romeo,
If it drops where it’s shot and dressed post haste…
venison can be a culinary delight..

jerrytbg on February 10, 2009 at 11:33 PM

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