Comments on: Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Tue, 29 May 2012 17:26:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: What should the Stimulus package have looked like? « Political Diatribes http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-2/#comment-1892494 What should the Stimulus package have looked like? « Political Diatribes Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:45:40 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1892494 [...] by The Diatribe Guy on February 18, 2009 From this post on Hot Air, we see the following attempt at a reasonable stimulus package…  from  Democrat.  From the [...] [...] by The Diatribe Guy on February 18, 2009 From this post on Hot Air, we see the following attempt at a reasonable stimulus package…  from  Democrat.  From the [...]

]]> By: Kah Zoohl List http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-2/#comment-1883749 Kah Zoohl List Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:53:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1883749 <strong>Final Plea Against The Largest Spending Bill In History...</strong> With Obama about to sign this thing at an invitation-only event tomorrow, I\'m days, if not weeks, late to post this, but here it goes: Here are my arguments for why H.R 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, better known as the \"... Final Plea Against The Largest Spending Bill In History…

With Obama about to sign this thing at an invitation-only event tomorrow, I\’m days, if not weeks, late to post this, but here it goes: Here are my arguments for why H.R 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, better known as the \”…

]]> By: Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START « Dirty Democrats http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-2/#comment-1877392 Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START « Dirty Democrats Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:08:51 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1877392 [...] a comment » Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START: [...] [...] a comment » Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START: [...]

]]> By: DL13 http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1865783 DL13 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:58:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1865783 Wonder if the good Congressman would consider switching parties now that the Republicans are starting to see the light..... Wonder if the good Congressman would consider switching parties now that the Republicans are starting to see the light…..

]]> By: Up North Mommy Talks Politics » A better stimulus bill http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1865369 Up North Mommy Talks Politics » A better stimulus bill Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:39:11 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1865369 [...] Ed Morrissey remarks that this bill should change the debate. Unfortunately it won’t because the narrative has been written and disseminated: Obama’s bill is the only bill that can save us, even though it’s a monstrosity. Robert Barro, a Harvard economist, doesn’t mince words: This is probably the worst bill that has been put forward since the 1930s. I don’t know what to say. I mean it’s wasting a tremendous amount of money. It has some simplistic theory that I don’t think will work, so I don’t think the expenditure stuff is going to have the intended effect. I don’t think it will expand the economy. And the tax cutting isn’t really geared toward incentives. It’s not really geared to lowering tax rates; it’s more along the lines of throwing money at people. On both sides I think it’s garbage. So in terms of balance between the two it doesn’t really matter that much. [...] [...] Ed Morrissey remarks that this bill should change the debate. Unfortunately it won’t because the narrative has been written and disseminated: Obama’s bill is the only bill that can save us, even though it’s a monstrosity. Robert Barro, a Harvard economist, doesn’t mince words: This is probably the worst bill that has been put forward since the 1930s. I don’t know what to say. I mean it’s wasting a tremendous amount of money. It has some simplistic theory that I don’t think will work, so I don’t think the expenditure stuff is going to have the intended effect. I don’t think it will expand the economy. And the tax cutting isn’t really geared toward incentives. It’s not really geared to lowering tax rates; it’s more along the lines of throwing money at people. On both sides I think it’s garbage. So in terms of balance between the two it doesn’t really matter that much. [...]

]]> By: Cop The Truth http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1864979 Cop The Truth Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:00:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1864979 <strong>Stop Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Geithner and Their Doomed 'Plans'...</strong> Does anyone - besides Obama, I mean - have any confidence that liar and tax cheat SecTreas Geithner has any idea what he's doing? It sure doesn't look like it. The market dived - as he was talking - like...... Stop Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Geithner and Their Doomed ‘Plans’…

Does anyone – besides Obama, I mean – have any confidence that liar and tax cheat SecTreas Geithner has any idea what he’s doing? It sure doesn’t look like it. The market dived – as he was talking – like……

]]> By: Fiscal Suicide: Those Damn Democrats « JoHNBRoDiGaNDoTCoM http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1864946 Fiscal Suicide: Those Damn Democrats « JoHNBRoDiGaNDoTCoM Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:49:21 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1864946 [...] DEMOCRAT from Idaho, to the list of dissenting D’s that the media is ignoring. Minnick has a crazy idea to try a smaller stimulus plan first… Minnick is a member of the Blue Dog caucus of occasionally conservative Democcrats. [...] [...] DEMOCRAT from Idaho, to the list of dissenting D’s that the media is ignoring. Minnick has a crazy idea to try a smaller stimulus plan first… Minnick is a member of the Blue Dog caucus of occasionally conservative Democcrats. [...]

]]> By: Oleta http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1864301 Oleta Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:46:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1864301 Searching for an answer: I heard 0 say more than once that this 'stimulus' is not the most expensive ever? He failed to say which ever one that was. Anyone have an idea what he was talking about? Or does even the great one not know what he was talking about? Searching for an answer: I heard 0 say more than once that this ‘stimulus’ is not the most expensive ever? He failed to say which ever one that was. Anyone have an idea what he was talking about? Or does even the great one not know what he was talking about?

]]> By: sabbott http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1864188 sabbott Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:20:10 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1864188 <blockquote> Stop writing funny stuff online and write your Congresspeople & Senators! We have to act today to let others know about the START! scottjenn on February 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM</blockquote> Newsflash...They don't care what you think!

Stop writing funny stuff online and write your Congresspeople & Senators! We have to act today to let others know about the START!

scottjenn on February 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Newsflash…They don’t care what you think!

]]> By: Ace ODale http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1864005 Ace ODale Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:33:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1864005 Actually, anti-boomer, Idaho is more conservative overall. Boise is trending lib as does any metro. Then there's Sun Valley and Teton County (liberal vacation homes), but other than that, Idaho's solidly Red. O do agree with you, though, that Otter is a RINO. Actually, anti-boomer, Idaho is more conservative overall. Boise is trending lib as does any metro. Then there’s Sun Valley and Teton County (liberal vacation homes), but other than that, Idaho’s solidly Red.

O do agree with you, though, that Otter is a RINO.

]]> By: duff65 http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863889 duff65 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:07:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863889 This guy should probably change parties. Nancy is not going to like him very much. His bill is something I could support without holding my nose. This guy should probably change parties. Nancy is not going to like him very much. His bill is something I could support without holding my nose.

]]> By: Stimulating Sanity? « Desertdweller’s Blog http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863832 Stimulating Sanity? « Desertdweller’s Blog Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:52:50 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863832 [...] Wouldn’t we rather expect this kind of effort from our Washington representatives?   Instead of focusing on politics, Rep. Walt Minnick (D-ID) [...] [...] Wouldn’t we rather expect this kind of effort from our Washington representatives?   Instead of focusing on politics, Rep. Walt Minnick (D-ID) [...]

]]> By: Subsunk http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863827 Subsunk Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:51:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863827 I know Ed has mentioned this before here at Hot Air, but everyone realizes that the amount of this stimulus is twice the entire budget of the Dept of Defense. How about, if we want a jobs program, we spend our money on buying all the ships, planes, tanks, trucks and rifles our troops need, hire the additional 300,000 we need to man the Army to fight without strain in Iraq AND Afghanistan (and maybe occupy Iran or Pakistan if need be), and then see whether we really need this stimulus. Buying two DoDs means we would employ at least 2 million extra workers and have all the troops we need to fight any adversary. Since Dhimmicrats feel the DoD is nothing but a jobs program for stupid people anyway, why shouldn't they support it? Because Dhimmicrats are liars, cheats, and thieves, and DoD wouldn't have a contract with anybody like that. That's why! Subsunk I know Ed has mentioned this before here at Hot Air, but everyone realizes that the amount of this stimulus is twice the entire budget of the Dept of Defense. How about, if we want a jobs program, we spend our money on buying all the ships, planes, tanks, trucks and rifles our troops need, hire the additional 300,000 we need to man the Army to fight without strain in Iraq AND Afghanistan (and maybe occupy Iran or Pakistan if need be), and then see whether we really need this stimulus. Buying two DoDs means we would employ at least 2 million extra workers and have all the troops we need to fight any adversary. Since Dhimmicrats feel the DoD is nothing but a jobs program for stupid people anyway, why shouldn’t they support it?

Because Dhimmicrats are liars, cheats, and thieves, and DoD wouldn’t have a contract with anybody like that. That’s why!

Subsunk

]]> By: anti-boomer http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863561 anti-boomer Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:37:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863561 <blockquote>Idaho is looking better and better. Y-not on February 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM</blockquote> if you think Idaho is as conservative as Hot Air, you're fooling yourself. Idaho is not conservative. It's a mess. What's scary is that it's probably better than anywhere else in the country today.

Idaho is looking better and better.

Y-not on February 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM

if you think Idaho is as conservative as Hot Air, you’re fooling yourself. Idaho is not conservative. It’s a mess. What’s scary is that it’s probably better than anywhere else in the country today.

]]> By: anti-boomer http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863556 anti-boomer Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:35:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863556 <blockquote>Wait just one second…..there are Democrats in Idaho? Youngs98 on February 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM</blockquote> well, this guy was supported by the RINO governor of Idaho. And, Minnick used to be Republican. I don't trust Minnick as far as I can throw him. He just ran against the 1-Term representative from Idaho Bill Sali (who was 100% conservative on every issue and elected president of the 2006 freshman class), and Minnick won because the Governor and all the Idaho RINOs turned against Sali. It was the most shameful display of treachery. The Republican Party in Idaho is in trouble. This is a charade. Minnick raised over a Million in George Soros money, way outspending the normal levels of fundraising. Don't think for a second that he's getting away with anything. If the Dems wanted to reel him in they would. Minnick is a token Blue Dog, but if you draw hope from this hopeless situation, you're foolish. We're in big trouble. In case nobody here noticed we're losing left right and center. Our filibuster in the Senate vanished. We are losing!

Wait just one second…..there are Democrats in Idaho?

Youngs98 on February 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM

well, this guy was supported by the RINO governor of Idaho. And, Minnick used to be Republican. I don’t trust Minnick as far as I can throw him. He just ran against the 1-Term representative from Idaho Bill Sali (who was 100% conservative on every issue and elected president of the 2006 freshman class), and Minnick won because the Governor and all the Idaho RINOs turned against Sali. It was the most shameful display of treachery. The Republican Party in Idaho is in trouble. This is a charade. Minnick raised over a Million in George Soros money, way outspending the normal levels of fundraising. Don’t think for a second that he’s getting away with anything. If the Dems wanted to reel him in they would.
Minnick is a token Blue Dog, but if you draw hope from this hopeless situation, you’re foolish.
We’re in big trouble. In case nobody here noticed we’re losing left right and center. Our filibuster in the Senate vanished. We are losing!

]]> By: ironman http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863549 ironman Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:33:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863549 Minnick's plan makes more sense than Obama/Pelosi/Reid's. By spending $240 billion, federal tax revenues would only have to rise by $4.7 billion more than it would otherwise for the stimulus to be declared a success. By contrast, the O/P/R bill would have to increase federal tax collections by $15.9 billion over what they would be otherwise. Obviously, with so much more wasteful spending, the O/P/R bill will have a tougher time doing that. Source: <a href="http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-know-if-stimulus-worked.html" rel="nofollow">How to Know If the "Stimulus" Worked</a> Minnick’s plan makes more sense than Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s. By spending $240 billion, federal tax revenues would only have to rise by $4.7 billion more than it would otherwise for the stimulus to be declared a success. By contrast, the O/P/R bill would have to increase federal tax collections by $15.9 billion over what they would be otherwise.

Obviously, with so much more wasteful spending, the O/P/R bill will have a tougher time doing that.

Source: How to Know If the “Stimulus” Worked

]]> By: Vashta.Nerada http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863513 Vashta.Nerada Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:17:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863513 Rep. Minnick, a word of advice: buy a remote starter for your car. Rep. Minnick, a word of advice: buy a remote starter for your car.

]]> By: melda http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863499 melda Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:14:14 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863499 I just emailed both my senators, asking them to please do all they can to support Minnick or DeMint's plans. I'm sure they don't care, but I did something. I just emailed both my senators, asking them to please do all they can to support Minnick or DeMint’s plans. I’m sure they don’t care, but I did something.

]]> By: Yo! Netrooters! We’ve got another Blue Dog for you to purge! — But As For Me http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863468 Yo! Netrooters! We’ve got another Blue Dog for you to purge! — But As For Me Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:02:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863468 [...] the monstrosity you guys came up with and turned it into something that might actually work. Via Hot Air: Blue Dog nips Obama with a better stimulus [...] [...] the monstrosity you guys came up with and turned it into something that might actually work. Via Hot Air: Blue Dog nips Obama with a better stimulus [...]

]]> By: A fresh START for Porkulus | BitsBlog http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863464 A fresh START for Porkulus | BitsBlog Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:00:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863464 [...] Hat tip:  Ed Morrissey, Hot Air. [...] [...] Hat tip:  Ed Morrissey, Hot Air. [...]

]]> By: Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START « Inzax http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863442 Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START « Inzax Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:47:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863442 [...] leave a comment » Hot Air » Blog Archive » Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START. [...] [...] leave a comment » Hot Air » Blog Archive » Freshman Blue Dog offers a new START. [...]

]]> By: scottjenn http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863427 scottjenn Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:39:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863427 Stop writing funny stuff online and write your Congresspeople & Senators! We have to act today to let others know about the START! Stop writing funny stuff online and write your Congresspeople & Senators! We have to act today to let others know about the START!

]]> By: james23 http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863419 james23 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:38:02 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863419 More proof that the Repub and Dem jerseys have lost all meaning. In this country we have big government politicians--lets face it, they are the majority--and limited government politicians. I'd take this fellow ANY DAY over the 3 GOP frauds who voted for cloture. More proof that the Repub and Dem jerseys have lost all meaning. In this country we have big government politicians–lets face it, they are the majority–and limited government politicians. I’d take this fellow ANY DAY over the 3 GOP frauds who voted for cloture.

]]> By: The American Freedom Network » Shame and eternal shame, nothing but shame! http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863417 The American Freedom Network » Shame and eternal shame, nothing but shame! Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863417 [...] Promote the work of this Blue Dog Democrat, who should be hailed as one of the few bright spots in this very dark storm. Rep. Walt Minnick [...] [...] Promote the work of this Blue Dog Democrat, who should be hailed as one of the few bright spots in this very dark storm. Rep. Walt Minnick [...]

]]> By: Y-not http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/comment-page-1/#comment-1863414 Y-not Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:36:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=43485#comment-1863414 Idaho is looking better and better. Idaho is looking better and better.

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