Open thread: The “If we don’t spend a trillion dollars then the terrorists have already won” presser
posted at 7:40 pm on February 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
8 p.m. ET around the dial. Skip the first 10 minutes if you have to; the fun won’t start until the Q&A. Watch for (a) whether The One has the stones to claim the Senate bill was bipartisan, (b) how soon and hard he’s pressed about the fact that TARP II is likely to be “far bigger” than the stimulus, and (c) whether the health-care provisions being buzzed about at the boss’s blog have trickled up onto the media’s radar yet. With Netanyahu and Likud on the verge of returning to power in Israel, we’re bound to see a question about Israeli hawkishness affecting negotiations with Iran, too. I wonder if he’ll offer even a pro forma statement about Iranian nukes being “unacceptable.”
A lot of minds are going to change tonight. I can feel it.
Blowback
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Barry must be feeling as if the idiotic American electorate who voted for him have played a painful cosmic joke upon him.
He suddenly realizes he’s not qualified for the job.
But vainly let his ego go along with the foolhardy ride that the naive and gullible propelled him on.
And now he is washed up on the shore of the Oval Office like a three year old who wandered into a lion’s cage.
How he wishes he could go back and bow out of the race last February before it dragged him to this devastating display of his incompetence and inability and unfitness for this position and its terrifying responsibilities.
Every um and uh and er and aaaaahhh is the voice of his unconscious saying: “HELP! HEEEELLLLP!!! !”
profitsbeard on February 9, 2009 at 10:42 PM
jeanie:
On the subject of lies, Power Line has an interesting post up. This is part of it:
Substantively, though, it was a weak effort. Obama repeatedly characterized his opponents (the Republicans) as people who want to do nothing about the current economic crisis:
As I said, the one concern I’ve got on the stimulus package, in terms of the debate and listening to some of what’s been said in Congress, is that there seems to be a set of folks who — I don’t doubt their sincerity — who just believe that we should do nothing.
This is not just disingenuous; frankly, it’s an outright lie. The question is whether it’s an effective one. Don’t most people who would bother to watch a televised press conference know that the Republicans have made all kinds of alternative proposals? One would think.
Obama’s attacks on the Bush administration were equally silly:
First of all, when I hear that from folks who presided over a doubling of the national debt, then, you know, I just want them to not engage in some revisionist history. I inherited the deficit that we have right now and the economic crisis that we have right now.
Right. And that’s why his first act as President is to double or triple the deficit? Why, then, doesn’t he say that the Bush administration was following the right policies, only needed to go farther? Likewise with his claim that the “failed” policy of the past was to rely only on tax cuts. Actually, the Bush administration also increased spending greatly, just as Obama now proposes. And since, as Obama told us a couple of days ago, all spending equals stimulus, isn’t he once again emulating the policies of his predecessor, only carrying them to a new level?
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 10:46 PM
How’s this for simplistic. We’ve elected a liar. Liar’s are never to be trusted. About what or to whom will he lie next? We have a man at the helm whose every word is suspect.
jeanie on February 9, 2009 at 10:47 PM
That’s not simplistic. That’s just a statement of fact.
INC on February 9, 2009 at 10:48 PM
I can’t stand the sight or sound of him already so I didn’t watch or listen but it sounds like Mr. Articulate was his typical inarticulate self when the teleprompter was gone. The press won’t ask any hard questions because they know they will never get to ask one again. And I swear if there ever was a woman that needed to be put in a burkha it would be Helen Thomas, aaack, cough, spit.
goat on February 9, 2009 at 10:49 PM
remember how Obama attacked Bush on State Secrets?
Interesting than how reality proves a different policy:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/us/10torture.html?hp
“In a closely watched case involving rendition and torture, a lawyer for the Obama administration seemed to surprise a panel of federal appeals judges on Monday by pressing ahead with an argument for preserving state secrets originally developed by the Bush administration.”
James on February 9, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Best press conference I have seen from a President in eight years.
getalife on February 9, 2009 at 10:52 PM
profitsbeard on February 9, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Like I have said before I doubt he will try for a second term but instead choose to go away to make millions giving soaring flowery speeches about nothing and writing books about how great he is.
goat on February 9, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Perk up your ears when he says that. It means he’s about to tell a whopper.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on February 9, 2009 at 10:55 PM
getalife:
yeah, I bet you watched Bush’s press conferences.
One thing about it, we know that the press did not kiss Bush’s behind. No siree.
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM
James on February 9, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Of course, he wants to be above the law too.
getalife on February 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Well, yeah, and he’s trying to process the stuff in his brain so that something outrageously lefty doesn’t come spewing out.
ddrintn on February 9, 2009 at 10:57 PM
getalife on February 9, 2009 at 10:52 PM
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goat on February 9, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM
At the end, the media did not show up. I remember when they admitted torture and Helen looked around and asked, “Where is everybody?”.
getalife on February 9, 2009 at 10:58 PM
And, wearily, on the subject of lying: The most self-defeating and dangerous kind of liar is the one who believes his lies are true or is able to talk himself into believing his lies are true.(the jails are full of these) Is our President aware that he is lying? If so, then why is he running this risk? If, he does not recognize it as the risk it is, then he is either lying to himself on the most basic level possible or has come(for whatever reason)to believe what he says is true.
jeanie on February 9, 2009 at 10:59 PM
getalife:
of course he does. You see, Obama got a lot of little minions to vote for him and used their paranoia and partisan hatred to help him get elected. He fed them some line of crap about how he was going to bring the guilty to justice or whatever {meaning Republicans of course, not terrorists} and then once he is President, he gives them a big ol kick to the curb and does whatever he likes.
But they love him nonetheless. He is just so pretty and stuff. And he is not from the icky south or anything. or something.
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Flood the lines:
Call and fax them as often as possible all day today and tomorrow!
SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS
DC PHONE: (202) 224-2523
DC FAX: (202) 224-2693
AUGUSTA PHONE: (207) 622-8414
AUGUSTA FAX: (207) 622-5884
EMAILS TO CONTACT:
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EMAILS TO CONTACT:
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HARRISBURG FAX: (717) 782-4920
EMAILS TO CONTACT:
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Maria_Plakoudas@specter.senate.gov
Christopher_Bradish@specter.senate.gov
thomas_dower@specter.senate.gov
seema_singh@specter.senate.gov
corene_ashley@specter.senate.gov
regina_campbell@specter.senate.gov
gayle_mills@specter.senate.gov
AND PASS THIS ON!
UnderstandingisPower on February 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM
getalife:
Torture my behind. Gawd, what sanctimonious twits liberals are.
Clinton could hand some poor sob over to the Egyptians to do God only knows what and that was cool. A guy could disappear into an Egyptian prison and never be seen or heard from again. The only time the press cares about torture or death or aggression blah blah blah is if the Bush administration or Israel is somehow involved and then we get this sanctimonious posturing.
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Let me guess…you just bought your first TV this week?
AUINSC on February 9, 2009 at 11:07 PM
In fact I am reading an interesting book called An Ordinary Man. It is about the Rhwandan massacres. 800,000 people killed in 100 days and people at the UN, the Clinton administration and liberal media people like Helen Thomas could have cared less. They did nothing to help those people.
I keep hearing about the horrid Bush years, but for mass murder the Clinton years were a lot worse.
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Over 1,100 comments… that’s gotta be close to a record.
Talking about bankrupting the US deserves it : (
gmoonster on February 9, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Reaching a saturation point with this little man with the big mouth we have elected to be President. Need to find a cone of silence for a while where I can’t see or hear him. and..I was quite disposed two weeks ago to give him the benefit of the doubt–but when my President deliberately and dramatically and overtly lies to me, I’m too stunned and offended to get past it, ever.
jeanie on February 9, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I thought when he said “the party is over”, he was admitting the borrowing is over.
Somebody should ask how he will fund two wars if he can’t borrow any more money.
getalife on February 9, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I wonder what the Japanese government thinks of Obama’s comments on Japan.
technopeasant on February 9, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Obambi is sounding like a true South-side Chicago politician.
“You’ve gotta reeeeaaaal nice country here. It sure would be a real shame if something bad happened to it.”
viking01 on February 9, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Uh-huh.
If you say it often enough, maybe you’ll really believe it.
I refuse to watch this “man.”
He ain’t my president and never, ever will be.
I went to Tammy Bruce’s site and grabbed the widget for my Obama Gone countdown clock and I am counting down the days, hours, minutes and seconds until this angry Socialist loser empty suit is out.
Jenfidel on February 9, 2009 at 11:31 PM
The press conference was great on domestic issues and pretty embarassing on foreign ones. And orgasmic on his response to the GOP’s lame partisanship. “Maybe I should’ve just proposed no tax cuts and let the GOP claim all the credit for them” HA! Indeed. Rock on my man. Oh and thank you Barack for not spouting off random bits of hip hop slang ala Bling Bling Steele.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 9, 2009 at 11:32 PM
I’ve scanned through the comments…
To those who said that Bill and Hill are hatching a plan… I certainly hope so. I’d rather have them back in the WH than The Big O. I’d rather have Bill and Monica in the WH!
I’ve always thought that Joe Biden was the most pompous A$$ in DC, but I’d rather he be in the driver’s seat than the empty suit that was elected.
This nightmare reminds me of a phrase my husband says… pound ‘em with the left until they’re begging for a right. (Fighting). Just goes to show we’ve reached an all new low.
Dear God, where are we going? Where will this end? I’ll bet anyone $100 right now there will be no 2nd term for the Big O. I suspect Hillary will run against him in 2012. Will that be unprecedented?? Someone from within the current cabinet opposing the POTUS for the 2nd term?
Oink on February 9, 2009 at 11:33 PM
BRAVO!
Metro on February 9, 2009 at 11:34 PM
What 0bama doesn’t seem to realize is that he owns everything now; the economy, the war, Iran, Russia, Venuzuela, China, etc. The ball is in his court now. He keeps pushing back to Bush and the republicans. That’s not going to work too much longer.
cjs1943 on February 9, 2009 at 11:35 PM
I didn’t watch him either. I can’t stand the sight of him nor the sound of his voice. I get my news strictly from the internet now.
I watched Westminster Dog Show instead.
Oink on February 9, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Don’t know if this answers your question, but typically, governments can only obtain money from three sources. Borrow, Taxes, or print it. The above seems to indicate you’ve excluded borrowing out of the equation so that leaves us with the other two. I wonder, which of these would you prefer? And speaking of preferences, I have asked you a question in other threads before and have not received an answer. In case you missed it multiple times, I would like to take this opportunity to ask again. It should be an easy one if we have convictions to what we claim to support. Given that you’re ok with what our government is about to do and President Obama’s stated policies, why do you prefer tyranny over liberty? Thanks in advance for your explanation.
anuts on February 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Considering that he first had to redefine “tax cut” in order to propose them, I doubt the GOP is really all that excited about claiming credit for them.
Besides, we all know taxes don’t matter to Dems because they don’t pay them anyway.
venividivici on February 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Welp, it’s official. We’re screwed.
t.ferg on February 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM
<blockquoteBut they love him nonetheless. He is just so pretty and stuff. And he is not from the icky south or anything. or something.
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Very nice summary of the current state of Obamabot thinking! The funny thing is, we’ve gone from rapturous worship to this kind of numb puppy love in just a few short weeks. I have the distinct sense that a lot of Obama voters are slowly becoming aware of the eight hundred billion dollar guillotine hanging over their heads. Voters in every election vote for “change”, but they didn’t think they were voting to change into France last November.
The sheer magnitude of this ridiculous pork package is numbing, and TARP II is lurking behind it, beginning to slowly emerge from the fog into public perception. Obama looks like a guy who just realized everything he’s ever believed is wrong, but he has to ride this thing all the way to the end, because the humiliation of being utterly defeated when his party controls all three branches of government would destroy his presidency. The Democrats know they’ve got two years at most to wield absolute power, and their sole objective is to cement themselves into place like a European socialist government. They can’t afford to walk away from this with less than seven or eight hundred billion in their pockets.
All during the Clinton sleazefest, I remember commentators saying one of the reasons for Clinton’s life-saving poll numbers was that voters, as a group, don’t want to admit they made a terrible mistake, so they’ll rally around a crook like Clinton instead of hanging their heads in collective shame. Obama might just be the first exception to this rule. This silly public address didn’t do him any favors with an increasingly uneasy electorate.
Doctor Zero on February 9, 2009 at 11:44 PM
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KA21Dj08.html
“From the day Obama was elected to 9:30am Tokyo time on Monday morning, the S&P 500 index has lost 17% of its value, after absorbing Obama’s proposed cabinet and hearing the gist of his economic stimulus plan. That can’t be blamed on Bush. It counts as the “Obama crash”. With the unprecedented power of his office, Obama inherits a commensurately high level of accountability. Unless he offers something radically different, the boomerang of expectations could flatten him faster and more thoroughly than the swift ascent of his star. People in power get blamed; people with absolute power get blamed absolutely. As the economy continues to deteriorate, there will be no one left standing to blame but Obama.”
venividivici on February 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Oh was he on tonight? eh. I’ll listen to my local talk tomorrow a.m. to hear the decoded version.
johnnyU on February 9, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Obama just flew a jet through a flock of flying porkers and now has all control and responsibility of the highest flying economy of the world that has just lost its engines. The problem is he has never flown anything, Capt. Sully , he is not.
goat on February 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Obambi was slightly more intelligible using the subtitles on the screen. Most likely the captioning typist was editing out about 90 percent of Zero’s droning.
viking01 on February 10, 2009 at 12:11 AM
All the promises of jobs and economic upturn will catch up to
Obama quickly when the facts on the ground contradict his rhetoric. When Tarp 11 numbers start to hit the news cycle,democrats are going to see that there cherry picking of these polls(vast majority favor tax cuts over spending) combined with such a massive amount of money going to a deficit that democrats amazingly don’t care about now will prove a much harder sell and hit them where it hurts them most,in the polls.
Massive spending was a failure in the 1930′s in America and in the 1990′s in Japan.It will not solve these economic problems now either.
Inflation,Inflation,Inflation,Inflation,Inflation.
Watching Obama speak about Iran,I immediately asked around the room if anyone thought(2 democrats,3 republicans) his
deadpan answer of “my staff is getting a plan together for negotiations” was in any way shape or form making the Iranian regime sweat about acquiring a nuclear weapon.
Some think that negotiations should be carried out but don’t think they will produce any better results than Bush,UN,and EU did.
Everyone agreed that Obama comes across very weak and indecisive when it comes to Foreign Policy,especially terrorism.
It was not lost on the people in the room that the only time Obama seems to show aggressive,determined leadership served up with sharp rhetoric,is when he is talking about Republicans.
Terrorist and the regimes that support them,ahhh….not so much.
Obama’s oratory skills and butt kissing from the press will carry him for a little while,but the facts on the ground concerning the economy not coming around like he is promising and International leaders playing him like a clown
will catch up to him pretty soon.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Just askin, but worth askin anyway….
What’s the point of saving any of this?
Limerick on February 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Reality, what a concept.
I get no joy watching others suffer and America will suffer greatly under this buffoon. We will see Americans die and lose trillions because of hopeychange.
Mojave Mark on February 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM
You know, one thing that is getting old is the way the media frames the questions on bipartisanship. It’s always something like, “You’ve tried to be bipartisan because you are so incredibly good and wise. Are you disappointed that it hasn’t worked and are the old Washington ways harder to fix than you thought?”
They impart to him the best of motives while blaming the lack of bipartisanship on old Washington ways, too much partisanship, etc. And, of course, Obama knocks the softball out of the park and starts talking about people playing political games and having bad habits of the past.
Could it possibly be that there was something lacking in his bipartisan efforts. Something like:
a) Outsourcing the writing of the bill to Pelosi and allowing her to shut Republicans completely out of the forming of the bill.
b) Meeting with the House Republicans and saying “I won” and lecturing them about listening to Rush Limbaugh.
c) Giving a highly partisan, negative speech at the House Democrats retreat.
d) Allowing a bill to be so bloated with Democratic pet projects that it couldn’t possibly be acceptable to Republicans.
And when Obama says that he is committed to being civil and respectful of the other side could one reporter have asked about the “I won” comments and his excessive partisanship in the speech the other night. How is that civil and respectful and how is it lending to bipartisanship?
Also, what is with his defensiveness? “I can’t take criticism from people who doubled the national debt”. OK, well I didn’t double the national debt and neither did the other 50-60% of the country who don’t support this bill because it is too wasteful and loaded with pork. See, rather than actually be serious and respectful, he always tries to diminish his opponents by saying they are playing political games or petty politics or “they did it first”. Grow up. Of course, he would never play political games or petty politics. Remember when the knock on Bush was his arrogance. This guy makes Bush like the model of humility.
JohnInCA on February 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM
I’ve been watching these poll numbers from Real Clear Politics the last couple of weeks… and its interesting to note that they are almost unchanged from when Bush was in office…
Now… if everyone thinks Barry’s plan was so great… would it not impact these numbers?
I think, as usual, Washington is misreading the electorate… the direction the country REALLY wants to go in is back to WHAT WORKED and made this country great in the first place… less government… less lawyers… less LAW (but do enforce the ones you have)….
In other words… back to being a Republic.
Romeo13 on February 10, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Oblahblah is a freakin’ moron. He’s making it up as he goes along and we get punished for it.
SouthernGent on February 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Despite Franklin Roosevelt’s aggressive spending, unemployment reached 25 percent in 1933, fell only to 14 percent by 1937, and was back up to 19 percent in 1939.1 In the end, the New Deal did little or nothing to resuscitate the economy.
A good place to turn to understand the failure of the jump-start is the work of Frederic Bastiat, a French politician of the early 19th century. “In the economic sphere,” he wrote,
an act, a habit, an institution, a law produces not only one effect, but a series of effects. Of these effects, the first alone is immediate; it appears simultaneously with its cause; it is seen. The other effects emerge only subsequently; they are not seen; we are fortunate if we foresee them.
To prove his point, Bastiat described what happens when a vandal breaks a shopkeeper’s window. The seen effect is that repairing the glass creates economic value in the payment to the glazier, who then has money to buy a new suit or hire a part-time employee. What is unseen is that the shopkeeper has to pay the glazier with money that he would otherwise have used to buy a suit or add an employee. “The broken-window fallacy, under a hundred disguises, is the most persistent in the history of economics,” wrote the economic journalist Henry Hazlitt in 1946.
Stimulus—that is, fiscal intervention with the express purpose of speeding up the normal regenerative process that Grant describes—is unnecessary and almost certainly harmful, a policy based on hubris and anxiety, rather than on history and good sense.
- James K. Glassman
MB4 on February 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM
LOL…. my 17 year old daughter was yelling at the TV on that one…
How can you say the we can SPEND our way out of this “worst economy evah”…. and then complain about Bush and his spending?
If Bush’s policies got us into this mess, as Barry says… and was increasing spending… then how the heck can MORE spending be the answer?
Romeo13 on February 10, 2009 at 12:31 AM
“The truth is, all might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they ought.”
Samuel Adams – Essay in the Boston Gazette, October 14, 1771
AZ_Redneck on February 10, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Patient: Doctor Obama, why is my liver so unhealthy?
Doctor Obama: Beacuse that quack Doctor Bush had you drinking a quart of wine a night!
Patient: So what should I do Doctor Obama?
Doctor Obama: Why drink a gallon of wine a night, of course.
MB4 on February 10, 2009 at 12:39 AM
AZ_Redneck on February 10, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Unfortunately it is a concept that only the people that research and read on the internet will come close to grasping.
The democrats know that the vast majority of the electorate catches a 5 minute news cycle,reads a couple of headlines,and catches a little letterman or SNL to get their news.
So when Obama says “tax cuts” they don’t see that it is mostly income redistribution that has nothing to do with stimulating business and producing jobs.
“I am sending you a check in the mail” Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
When he keeps repeating that there is no pork or earmarks,people will think he is keeping a promise and pushing a clean bill.
The fact that he is just bundling huge amounts of federal money and sending it to governors and mayors to spend on their constituents and their pet projects with a wink is pretty much the same thing as an earmark.Obama just eliminated the middle man (congressman,senator) but they will get payback from these mayors and governors later during campaign time.
This is surprisingly a critical article exposing some of Obama’s word games concerning this trillion dollar rip off of the American people(especially this bogus “jobs saved” rhetoric we are hearing):
FACT CHECK: Obama has it both ways on pork
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090209/D968BMTO0.html
Feb 9, 6:25 PM (ET)
By CALVIN WOODWARD
WASHINGTON (AP) –
OBAMA: “The plan that we’ve put forward will save or create 3 million to 4 million jobs over the next two years.”
THE FACTS: Job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.
Beyond that, it’s unlikely the nation will ever know how many jobs are saved as a result of the stimulus. While it’s clear when jobs are abolished, there’s no economic gauge that tracks job preservation.
We should hold Obama’s a$$ to the fire on “jobs created” instead of this goal post moving line of “jobs saved”.
I bet we could have attributed 10 of millions of “jobs saved”to go along with jobs created to Bush with the success of his tax cuts.
“jobs saved”…talk about lowering the bar.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2009 at 12:53 AM
You might want to google Jeff Gannon, unless you want to be known as the sarah palin of hotair.
benny shakar on February 10, 2009 at 1:08 AM
This bill,already restricting free speech and freedom of religion with no federal money going to any education center that allows any display or practice of religion.
Now we have provisions that are going to determine whether you should be treated and if you are following the health guidelines laid out by the government that will allow you to receive sufficient health care.
This will certainly lead to the government telling you how much you should weigh,whether surgery is “economically justified” to elderly or seriously ill patients.Are you smoking and eating too much red meat..etc..etc..etc..
Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
Commentary by Betsy McCaughey
Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) —
Elderly Hardest Hit
Welcome to the Micheal Moore health system brought to you by
the liberal hero Castro.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2009 at 1:10 AM
You wield the name Jeff Gannon like it’s some sort of talisman. Gannon was one guy out of how many people in the WH press corps?
venividivici on February 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM
$830 Billion / 4 million jobs = $200,000/job
The One must have been a sleep at Haaaavaaard during the marginal revenue, marginal cost discussions.
Caper29 on February 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM
I heard he’s going to call abortion “pre-emptive job loss avoidance”.
venividivici on February 10, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Oink, I don’t think we will make it to 2012 in any recognizable form.
Alana on February 10, 2009 at 1:17 AM
AZ_Redneck on February 10, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Sam Adams is one of my favorite quotable founders, dang could we use his like today! His words apply to today as well as they did then, his most famous quote sits prominately on my homepage.
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, ‘What should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity to bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war, to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”- Samuel Adams
goat on February 10, 2009 at 1:22 AM
What is it with liberals like you always bringing up Gannon when referring to media bias.
Is some obscure reporter supposed to counter the overwhelming
studies conducted by many media research centers and Universities such as Harvard that show a huge liberal bias in our media today.
You really are a pathetic little boy:
Noted imbecile Mark Morford: Obama is a “Lightworker,” an “enlightened being”
posted at 5:28 pm on June 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/06/noted-imbecile-mark-morford-obama-is-a-lightworker-an-enlightened-being/
This is not just the ramblings of a few liberal journalist,even publications like “Politico” share
this Messiah like reverence for Mr. 57 states:
The power of Obama’s hand
By: Andie Coller
January 29, 2009 10:26 AM EST
“Some of the Most Historic Shirts Money Can Buy”
AHH…right…What media bias.
Chris Matthews getting tingles up his legs after hearing just a few words from his savior and mentor.
Mr. objective news journalist knows his mission is clear:
Matthews:
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
JOE SCARBOROUGH:
MATTHEWS:
SCARBOROUGH:
MATTHEWS:
And of course,Chrissy here has plenty of help in his quest to make sure Obama is successful:
Stephanopoulos Cried On Inauguration Day
But just helping their Messiah is not enough,we have to “be” one with him:
Ahhh yes,our investigative and independent objective media at it’s best.
Brian Williams: Obama First Non ‘Choice of Evils’ in ‘Generations’
GGGGreat. So all the Presidents preceding Obama have merely been “bad choices dating back years,no…no…no…GENERATIONS!!!!
Yea,benny boy,keep bringing up your fantasy boy Gannon and just ignore all the leg tingling,home boy wannabe,gushing for your lightworker coming from the press that has it’s lips pressed so firmly to Mr. 57 states butt.
benny,you have got to be the most pathetic,whiny,and ignorant liberal poster that I have ever read.You never have a point,never back anything up with facts,and have your butt handed to you everytime you post here.
It’s like Karl Rove has his hand shoved straight up your a$$,making you post here so we can make fun of your silly john stewart wannabe rants.
Just pathetic.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2009 at 1:34 AM
And terrorist will be welcome to come here and get the jobs that Americans don’t want to do.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2009 at 1:38 AM
http://www.manlyrash.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/pelosi-bong.jpg
This says it all! How Pelosi conceived the Stimulus Package!
sheebe on February 10, 2009 at 1:49 AM
Pathetic, even for ravi shankar!
One little Conservative blogger out of the entire WH Press Corps?!?
Puh-leaze!
I think the drive-by Libs got him kicked out, too.
The MSM was 99.99% against President Bush for 8 years and is 100% devoted to giving Comrade Urkel a tongue bath each and every day!
Jenfidel on February 10, 2009 at 2:04 AM
Late to the party as I am only now watching this on the O’Reilly 2 a.m. repeat (was hoping to avoid it altogether, but I’m up and there’s nothing else on).
I love how these people peddle tax credits like it’s actually money in your pocket. They really count on the American people being stupid and complacent.
Barack Obama is a fear mongerer. When Bush said we needed to go to Iraq, or that we needed the Patriot Act, to keep America safe, everyone accused him of artificially ginning up fear in the American public. How is this any different?
Obama is also a huge friggin’ liar.
No make-work jobs? Liar.
Businesses of all stripes support this crapfest? Where is the proof of that? Liar.
(Of course the AFL-CIO supports it — why wouldn’t they with all the pro-labor bells and whistles packed in there?)
Total transparency? Where? They can’t even manage to get their press briefings posted on the website. Liar.
Input, ideas, and compromise from both sides? Three RINOs don’t a bipartisan bill make. Liar.
Is he just stupid? Does he lack common sense? Because to me this is all common sense: Free up money for private investment, relieve businesses of the tax and regulatory burdens that have a chilling effect on growth, and guess what? People will start reinvesting capital in their businesses and they’ll have to hire more help! Imagine that! It’s absolutely breathtaking that he and his ilk are incapable of grasping these basic logical concepts. If it doesn’t make sense to run your own household into more debt when you’re already swimming in it, then why would it make sense for the federal government? We can’t keep riding on reputation forever. Someday that bill is going to come due and we’re not going to be able to pay it back. What then, Oh Sage One?
He’s either stupid or he’s evil. I lean toward the former simply because it’s so obvious he’s just regurgitating what his advisors have spoonfed to him. He doesn’t speak with enough eloquence on the subject to indicate any real understanding. His head is filled with all sorts of nonsense. I dispute all of those who claim he is some great intellect. I would challenge him to an IQ test any day of the week.
I hate this man more and more everyday.
NoLeftTurn on February 10, 2009 at 2:26 AM
For the most brilliant articulate man who has ever lived, that was the most incoherent bunch of gobbledygook I have ever had the misfortune of sitting through.
I would have turned it off, but was too fascinated. It was so awful it was surreal. Will Farrell is parodying the wrong president. Obama makes Bush look articulate.
America has slit it wrists.
DeathB4Tyranny on February 10, 2009 at 2:36 AM
+7%……..
- my a$s……….
Seven Percent Solution on February 10, 2009 at 2:49 AM
Watching Obama mortgage our future away with that stupid smile on his face kept you up late to.
Get ready because Tarp II is coming and it won’t be an easy sell for Mr. Paparazzi.
Trying to triple our National Debt (that democrats used to be concerned about like rendition,NSA wiretapping,campaign finance,lobbyist etc….etc…) is going to scare the he!! out of blue dog democrats,economist, and a lot of people in this country.
This stimulus was supposed to be the easy one for the incoming Messiah but it did not turn out that way.combined with the embarrassing pork ($600 million condoms,recreation
parks,Acorn to name a few) and having cabinet picks fall like flies has killed the honeymoon for Mr. Paparazzi.
Democrats have the majorities.
They are he!! bent on making all of America look like Michigan.
Make them own their failed policies.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2009 at 3:35 AM
President Obama’s greatest talent was on exhibit during his Monday night press conference: That is his well honed ability to say absolutely nothing in so eloquent a fashion. Not to mention his adept side-steps when dancing around the questions asked. His press conference was merely another campaign speech, warming up for 2012. Shame he never learned leadership skills. It’s gonna be a loooong four years, with Barry preempting prime time cable/TV at every hiccup along the way. Sheesh.
KendraWilder on February 10, 2009 at 4:11 AM
My Humble Attempt to Summarize The Above:
Baxter Greene This was an interesting hypothesis: Benny is a Karl Rove puppet?
Yes you are probably right but Benny Suckah makes people waste effort disposing of specious arguments.
And the tea leaves of The One are coming to rest as many above were seeing. However, just like the Clinton ‘Rule Of Satyr’ it is all up to the numbers and we know what numbers…. In that rule, the humiliation of his wife, the mockery of his office, the damage and pain to his daughter, the risk to national security and the waste of a government’s time all took a back seat to the polls.
I earlier posted a link to Gallup (I was one of their sample targets till I started posting here…Hmmm…) and when these numbers start to slip, The One will really hurt. And he seems unable to change. Remember? This is a man who couldn’t admit a mistake about the surge. And unlike President Bush being unable to admit a mistake, The One had a chance to think it over!
Despite the supine media and their handling, shaping and then hurling the contents of the Aegean stables, the brain marinated, leg tingling, unprofessional weaklings will slowly turn on him. Eventually, his handling of some problem will show his utter lack of mettle and brains. I used to feel quite racist when I called him the Affirmative Action Hero but now I wonder. And I wonder how many of his teachers had the same objectivity as the press.
NoLeftTurn — said it very well. “I would challenge him to an IQ test any day of the week.” Makes you wonder why we never got any transcripts or test scores.
And the problem with all this? Mojave Mark
Predicted: “I get no joy watching others suffer and America will suffer greatly under this buffoon. We will see Americans die and lose trillions because of hopeychange.”
The poll numbers will not change nor the next election arrive fast enough.
IlikedAUH2O on February 10, 2009 at 5:12 AM
No, they will not turn on him. They will never admit that they were 100% wrong. Let’s look at this example: I was talking to a friend over the weekend who I once thought to be highly intelligent, or at least a thinker. His case for Obama? Obama makes him feel good. The economy is a psychological thing and if we all feel good about it, it will get better. This stimulus package, which he believes to be bipartisan, makes him feel good. Obama is not Bush. That makes him feel good. For all the excellent arguments and valid points that I threw at my friend, for each time I backed him into a corner and left him answerless, he would not accept any of it and continued on in his feel-good praise of Obama, so much so that I’m convinced that my friend is no longer the atheist that he so proudly claims to be, but a real Believer in his new god. No matter what happens under this Obama administration, no matter how bad it gets, I am convinced that my friend will NEVER admit that he made the wrong choice or admit that his “feelings’ about Obama were wrong.
As for Obama’s teachers, they loved having their little sycophantic wunderkind in their classes. They’re so proud of their pet student and surely take credit for where he is today. Surely, he could do no wrong, neither then nor now. So much for objectivity in education.
misslizzi on February 10, 2009 at 5:34 AM
benny:
Jeff Gannon??? Are you serious? Who the hell cares about Jeff Gannon? Obama has an entire generation of reporters kissing his behind and you bring up one guy who did not hate Bush on site and act as if that means something.
BTW, I would be proud to be known as the Sarah Palin of Hot Air.
Terrye on February 10, 2009 at 6:32 AM
How is this stimulus package going to replace jobs lost in the financial services sector, retail, etc.??????
Why isn’t this huge spending package being challenged? Where are the so called “journalists”?
durhamite on February 10, 2009 at 8:08 AM
One of the most intellectually dishonest things I’ve seen in a long time. He’s seriously expecting people to believe that he’s contending politically with people who really don’t want to do anything, versus wanting a better policy mix.
False dichotomy, straw man. Rinse. Repeat.
Here’s what’s going to happen, Mr. President. In about 18-24 months, when the extended unemployment insurance benefits and other transfer payments start to run out, and at the same time the GAO/IG reports start rolling in on the billions missing or wasted, enjoy trying to control that narrative and the resulting public discontent. We warned you.
DrSteve on February 10, 2009 at 8:15 AM
- The Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson and heavily edited by Benjamin Franklin
These, too, are ‘human rights’ to create things that are just and uphold society, and not to be dictated TO by government. And a few months before that, there was this:
- Common Sense, by Tom Paine
Can’t miss that – its the opening paragraph.
I’ve had it with government creating distinctions and dividing the Nation up into partisan bits and pieces and removing the good from society that is the source of all good for the Nation. When you hand ‘good things’ for a necessary evil to do you remove that from yourself and that is a true evil beyond any other kind. Putting a smiley face button on a punisher does not make it any less a punisher – hand it sweet cakes it then stuffs them down your throat with much vigor. That is why health care is mismanaged by government: it only knows enforcement and not creating good things. Doing good things, taking care of oneself, that enrichs each person and makes them more powerful. There is no need to be ‘empowered’ by government as the power already resides within you, no one can hand it to you.
I distrust any government given ‘good things’ to do, and seek equal protection under the law for all citizens and equal enforcement of such laws. Instead we now have more rules and regulations to the point where any action taken can be illegal due to government ‘regulation’. Good faith is wiped from the populace by that act, and government does not get it as it cannot use it as a positive aspect of character. It is a punisher. That cannot accrue positive aspects without turning them horrific as government can only enforce restrictions, enforce divisions and curb ills of society. To create a good society is the duty of citizens in society, not government. When you look to government to create a good society, mind its whip for it is a task master.
It has this credo:
“The beatings will continue until morale improves.”
ajacksonian on February 10, 2009 at 8:17 AM
“Only government” can fix the economy now? Dear God in Heaven!!! We have to run the other way from that statement. NO! Actually, we need to run toward it and beat it down.
What is it going to take, people?
Oink on February 10, 2009 at 8:27 AM
Guess who asked this question to President Bush in 2001…
Q: — you’ve met twice in the White House since you’ve been in office with Prime Minister Sharon. But you have refused to meet with Yasser Arafat. Now that you envision a Palestinian state, will you meet with Arafat and, if so, when?
A: I want to assure the American people, in particular our allies who are interested in our position in the Middle East, that we’re spending a lot of time dealing with the Middle East. I know there was some concern amongst our allies when the September 11th — right after the September 11th attack, that we would forego any responsibility we have in the Middle East. Secretary of State Powell is doing a great job of staying in contact with both Mr. Arafat and Prime Minister Sharon.
I have met with Prime Minister Sharon, and I’ve assured him every time we’ve met that he has no better friend than the United States of America. I also stated the other day that if we ever get into the Mitchell process where we can start discussing a political solution in the Middle East, that I believe there ought to be a Palestinian state, the boundaries of which will be negotiated by the parties, so long as the Palestinian state recognizes the right of Israel to exist and will treat Israel with respect, and will be peaceful on her borders.
Obviously, the events of September 11th have prevented overt diplomacy in the Middle East — not prevented it, it just made it — my calendar is a little crowded. On the other hand, I am very much engaged. I have spoken to Prime Minister Sharon again. And if I am convinced that a meeting with a particular party at this point in time will further the process, I will do so. If it turns out to be an empty photo opportunity that creates expectations that will become dashed, I won’t meet.
I hope progress is being made. I was pleased to see that Mr. Arafat is trying to control the radical elements within the Palestinian Authority. And I think the world ought to applaud him for that. I hope he’s taking measures necessary to reduce the violence in the Middle East, so that we can get into the Mitchell process.
We’re working hard on the topic, Helen. It’s a very important part of our foreign policy.
yakwill83 on February 10, 2009 at 8:29 AM
I was waiting for him to lift his pinky to the corner of his mouth and do his best Dr. Evil laugh.
Hammerhead on February 10, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Wouldn’t surprise me if NObama wants to replace “In God we trust” with “The beatings will continue until morale improves” as the national motto!
Thanks for the timely, pertinent quotes, ajacksonian.
Jenfidel on February 10, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Barack Obama: Give me your money! Give me your children’s and their childrens money! We have to do something! Failure is not an option! Republicans have to put aside their rigidity and work with us bi-partisan socialists because we really know what’s best for them.
Now replace the incompetent um, and ahs with a deep sultry voice and funky bass line.
“Barry White” Obama: (As heard through lovestruck ears of the media)
Uh…
Oh, baby
Oh, baby (Keep on)
Come on, baby (Keep on doin’ it, right on)
Mmm, mmm, mmm (Right on doin’ it)
You got it together (Baby, keep on)
Oh, you got it together, baby (Right on, keep on doin’ it)
Not yet, baby, oh, not yet
Mmm, mmm (My-my baby, keep on)
I swear you got it together, baby (Keep on, keep on)
Whatever, whatever
Girl, I’ll do
Forever and ever, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I’ll see you through
I’ve got to keep you pleased
In every way I can
Gonna give you all of me
As much as you can stand
Make love to you right now
That’s all I want to do
I know you need it, girl
And you know I need it, too
‘Cause I found
What the world is searching for
Here, right here, my dear
I don’t have to look no more
And, oh, my babe
I hoped and I prayed
For someone just like you
To make me feel the way you do
Never, never gonna give you up
I’m never, ever gonna stop
Not the way I feel about you
Girl, I just can’t live without you
I’m never, ever gonna quit
‘Cause quittin’ just ain’t my stick
I’m gonna stay right here with you
Do all the things you want me to
Whatever you want
Girl, you got
And whatever you need
I don’t want to see you without it
You’ve given me much more
Than words could ever say
And oh, my dear, I’ll be right here
Until my dyin’ day
I don’t know just how to say
All the things I feel
I just know that I love you so
And it gives me such a thrill
‘Cause I found
What this world is searching for
Here, right here, my dear
I don’t have to look no more
And all of my days
I hoped and I prayed
For someone just like you
To make me feel the way you do
I’m never, never gonna give you up
I’m never, ever gonna stop
Stop the way I feel about you
Girl, I just can’t live without you
I’m never, ever gonna quit
‘Cause quittin’ just ain’t my stick
I’m gonna stay right here with you
Do all the things you want me to
Oh, I’m never gonna give you up
I’m never, ever gonna stop
All the things I feel about you
Girl, I just can’t live without you
I’m never, ever gonna quit
‘Cause quittin’ just ain’t my stick
I’m gonna stay right here with you
Do all the things you want me to
Come on HotAir readers! Just feel the love!
shick on February 10, 2009 at 8:57 AM
The Obamassiah is off to a great start. In less than 30-days he has managed to nearly convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that I will in no way support or assist him in any fashion, being that he was elected my President, after all, whether I liked it or not.
I’ll give him some more time to fully convince me, or flip me. It is all up to him. After all, he can practically walk on water, so turning the tides should be a snap for The One.
We’ll see how well he does when he kowtows to Iran and has his direct talks with Ahmedinnerjacket. I’m guessing he’ll fail miserably as he has with every single thing he has done or tried to do so far. That’ll probably clench it for me. But I’ll keep my fingers crossed. If he unequivocally submits to Ahmedinnerjacket, and in effect to every other Thug-in-Chief in the world that will expect the same and nothing less afterwards, everything after that will just be gravy.
FlatFoot on February 10, 2009 at 9:05 AM
I don’t know about you but I’m starting to sense the narrowness of the eye of the needle…(Ed – please explain to AP).
Fuquay Steve on February 10, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Joe Biden is Obama’s greatest trial balloon.
“Joe go out and say this…..lets see what people think.”
“Oh, that’s just Joe. Ha, Ha, Ha.. Who knows what that guy is talking about…..”
Caper29 on February 10, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Just in case anyone was wondering:
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spmat on February 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM
He framed the debate for the mid term elections in 2010.
If the economy is getting better, the dems win and he gets a second term.
Of course, the gop are trapped to vote no on everything and hope it does not get better.
Reading these comments reminds me of the blogs like kos comments with severe BDS in w’s second term.
Except now, it is extreme ODS with a brand new President.
getalife on February 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/02/os-stimulus-suicide-bomb-vanishing-point.html
Call/Fax/Email
reshas1 on February 10, 2009 at 10:56 AM
And if the economy doesn’t get better and/or there have to be more “stimuli” packages after this one….???
ODS is based on facts, reality and truths.
Bush Derangement Syndrome never was–it was based on sheer blind partisan hate and lies.
Jenfidel on February 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM
ACORN is holding a rally on the Capitol’s west lawn today in favor of the stimulus bill.
Who could have seen this coming?/
milwife88 on February 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM
And if the economy doesn’t get better and/or there have to be more “stimuli” packages after this one….???
Of course.
getalife on February 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Which law?
Johan Klaus on February 10, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Did it work during the great depression?
Johan Klaus on February 10, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I wonder what the wise Christopher Buckley thinks of Obama’s 1st Class intellect today?
Kjeil on February 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM
That Obama’s Eugenic Health Care Plan gets MORE funding that our entire national defense budget funding for the military combined is the point.
How much money does it cost to deny health care on the basis that treatment is too expensive?
According to Obama, it costs more to deny health care than it costs to maintain our military budget spent by Bush.
maverick muse on February 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Another nail in the US coffin was hammered today. There are about 3 more to go…amnesty, “free” health care and fairness doctrine part deux.
angryed on February 10, 2009 at 11:31 AM
As Rev. Jeremiah Wright would say, “Nah. Nah. Nah.”
That’s not what I asked.
And “Of course” what???
Zerobama is selling this Porkulus package as THE fix-it for the economy.
He doesn’t really have the option of asking for any more or proposing additional stimulus bills.
You stated that he would be lauded for it IF it fixes the economy and that it will win him a second term.
And I postulated “And if it does not, what then?”
Many great economic minds are now on the record stating the Porkulus bill won’t fix the economy at all.
Deal with that–of course you will!
Jenfidel on February 10, 2009 at 11:32 AM
It created the 1937-1938 depression within the Great Depression that was caused by Federal fiscal policy interventions “meant” to cure the economy from the 1929 Crash, but effected the same cure as venom from a rattle snake bite with no antidote.
Hence Obama will CREATE from the balancing market crash of 2008-2009 the GREAT-GREAT DEPRESSION. Certainly Obama’s will be the Greatest Depression ever, just what he’s custom ordering.
Even FDR and the New Dealers distrusted the Nazi socialism that Obama personally and professionally endorses.
maverick muse on February 10, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Did you see the Drudge headline? “Thanks Tim.” The market has tanked since the idiot opened his mouth.
Ah, but they’ll blame it on a jobless number or something stupid.
Oink on February 10, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Oink on February 10, 2009 at 11:42 AM
It was tanking before he spoke.
Paulson wasted your money but this is the biggest hail mary I have ever seen.
Tarp crap sandwich indeed.
What a freaking mess.
getalife on February 10, 2009 at 11:48 AM
What’s this?
I thought you loved every little move by your Dear Leader.
Is light beginning to break even for you?
The market started tanking the day Zero was inaugurated and it’s been down, down, down we go ever since…
Jenfidel on February 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM
It’s just as effective to tape a post-it to the television with the comment “This man is a liar.”
highhopes on February 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM
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