Open thread: The “If we don’t spend a trillion dollars then the terrorists have already won” presser
posted at 7:40 pm on February 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
8 p.m. ET around the dial. Skip the first 10 minutes if you have to; the fun won’t start until the Q&A. Watch for (a) whether The One has the stones to claim the Senate bill was bipartisan, (b) how soon and hard he’s pressed about the fact that TARP II is likely to be “far bigger” than the stimulus, and (c) whether the health-care provisions being buzzed about at the boss’s blog have trickled up onto the media’s radar yet. With Netanyahu and Likud on the verge of returning to power in Israel, we’re bound to see a question about Israeli hawkishness affecting negotiations with Iran, too. I wonder if he’ll offer even a pro forma statement about Iranian nukes being “unacceptable.”
A lot of minds are going to change tonight. I can feel it.
Blowback
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I’m not sure I’d agree that intimidated is the right word. More like they didn’t want to be the one to ask the “Joe the Plumber” question that results in four years of not once getting a question answered. I think it is a moot point. This trainwreck could well be the last time the filthy liar actually uses this format.
highhopes on February 9, 2009 at 9:20 PM
It is your right, and considering what’s very possibly coming down the pike in this country (deepening recession, centralized government), I’d recommend purchasing sooner rather than later.
dugan on February 9, 2009 at 9:21 PM
uh is there Taliban and Al qaeda in Pakistan? Does a bear go in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic?
Dr Evil on February 9, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Does this mean that those who oppose his stimulus are now not only unpatriotic but we have bad habits too?
canditaylor68 on February 9, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Nah, I quit watching MSNBC years ago…
AUINSC on February 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Don’t know where you studied economics, maybe the same place as Obama. Taking money from one hand and putting it in the other is not “stimulus”. The economy is “stimulated” by wealth creation not wealth redistribution (government spending). By definition, the government must allocate resources less efficiently than the private sector, unless you believe that “public goods”, the value of which can never be quantified, actually create wealth.
If government spending were efficient, why would not the private sector undertake the same spending? So to take money from an efficient creator of wealth (the private sector) and mis-allocate it through government will destroy wealth, and jobs with it.
mr.blacksheep on February 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM
That’s exactly what the filthy liar was saying.
highhopes on February 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM
How is “loooooong” correctly pronounced?
ericdijon on February 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Benny, I’m really acclimated. I was testing you, rube as I am, superior and erudite one.
Schadenfreude on February 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM
And we’ve hit the 1000 point in the comments!
highhopes on February 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Bernie Goldberg is good… Better than O’Reilly
Star20 on February 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM
No, just quit working so much, as you have to pay for the dung that it is.
Schadenfreude on February 9, 2009 at 9:24 PM
benny:
I don’t know why anyone should get used to anything. Bush was president for 8 years and your side of the aisle never stopped bi***ing moaning and whining. And now you think the other side is supposed to get used to it? Why?
And Obama rambles and babbles. It is what he does. If you were not in love you would see that.
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Dangit, that means rehab. Newspeak for reeducation.
tehd on February 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Bush encourages people to spend after 9/11, and it’s reported as simple-mindedness.
Obama encourages peope to spend in the current circumstances, and it’s reported as sheer brilliance.
BuckeyeSam on February 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Why don’t we just blow up all our cities and then build them up again. Won’t that stimulate the economy? Think of all the JOBS!!!!
bingsha on February 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM
bennie come back…
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
(channeling libtards before Palin-Plugs debate) Did anyone check President Obama’s ear for a listening device?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
You mean stuff like, “Come on, uh, of course there’s a lot of spending in a stimulus package. That’s what a stimulus is. It’s spending.”
Yeah, regular Einstein this guy is.
He isn’t any smarter than Bush. Bush got into HBS, which is just as difficult to get into as HLS.
What has Obama ever said that wasn’t leftist boilerplate? Even his whole riff on the Constitution in the radio interview he gave, which was arguably the most “philosophical” interview with him, was standard 60′s leftist “positive rights” stuff.
venividivici on February 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I caught about 10 seconds of Matthews, Olby and Maddow rubbing each other with warm olive oil and could stand no more.
It`s
sonot so amazing to watch how different the commentary is.ThePrez on February 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Ahahahahahaha!
Alana on February 9, 2009 at 9:27 PM
From The Corner:
INC on February 9, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Can one person (just one) please make the connection for me between the tax cuts and the current financial crisis. What did the tax cuts have to do with the mortgage meltdown and Wall Street financial firms over-leveraging to get a piece of the real-estate action.
Seriously, when Obama claims that tax cuts have been tried and failed and contributed to the current crisis it seems that he doesn’t have any grasp of what caused this crisis.
And, as far as failed policies of the past: somebody please name one time in history (just one) where Keynesian economics has worked. And don’t say the New Deal.
As for supply-side tax cuts, they have worked over and over again. Harding-Coolidge, JFK, Reagan, Bush, even Clinton cut capital gains. All led to economic expansion.
JohnInCA on February 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Here’s a countdown to the next American President.
http://www.countdown2zero.com/68e21
Bookmark it, if you like.
Kralizec on February 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Glenn Beck on prime time would be so much better than O’Reilly. I think Bill has run his course.
DrStock on February 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Can’t wait to sit around the lunch table with my three Obama worshipping colleagues, who for some odd reason, really haven’t wanted to talk politics the last few weeks. Funny huh?
I am merely going to point out, “And you said Bush was an inarticulate and bumbling speaker?”
Get this guy away from a teleprompter and he makes Bush look like Cicero!
Teacher in Tejas on February 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
You’re so obnoxious.
Return to your bridge. Or swamp. Or whore house, crack house, opium den, or whatever degenerate place you come from
blatantblue on February 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
If high taxes, debt and government subsidized consumption were the keys to prosperity, the Roman Empire would still exist.
Idiot liberals don’t learn a damn thing from history.
venividivici on February 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM
um, tax cuts AND spending cuts lead to long-term growth.
Tax cuts and spending increases leads to inflation and bubble-economies.
bingsha on February 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Wouldn’t know……………
…….. but your mom is calling, time to come up out of the basement and do your homework.
I hear third grade is going to be tougher than your previous five attempts.
Seven Percent Solution on February 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM
man oriely wasnt impressed at all lol
trailortrash on February 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM
No Tarp for the original purpose. Remember last September when we had to bail out the banks because of toxic assets.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090210/bs_nm/us_financial_us_1
Dr Evil on February 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Oh, oh please tell me what`s wrong with being a red neck?
*tosses out red meat*
ThePrez on February 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I’m not really sure the Ambassador Hope gaffe, if that’s what you’re referring to, was an accident.
Teacher in Tejas on February 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Ryan Gandy on February 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I realize that Romney isn’t popular in HotAir. But when I see Obama floundering on national TV, I cannot help thinking how much better off we’d be with a politician who actually knows something about the economy.
I’d really love to see Mitt leading right now–knowledge, enthusiasm, and the like.
BuckeyeSam on February 9, 2009 at 9:33 PM
‘Obama TV,
ARTICULATION ON THE AIR,
HOPE AND CHANGE!
———-
The HOPE IS FOR THE DELUSIONAL
LIBERALS!
THE CHANGE IS FOR THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY!
And that CHANGE IS what the LIBERALS
HOPE FOR!
canopfor on February 9, 2009 at 9:33 PM
You people are just used to simplistic soundbites communicated on a 4th grade level.
Get used to it, or you’re in for a loooooong 8 years.
benny shakar on February 9, 2009 at 9:17 PM
So is Barry. Here’s an assignment for you:
” Feb. 10 (Bloomberg) — The euro fell, halting a three-day gain against the yen, after the Nikkei newspaper reported that Russian banks and businesses may ask foreign lenders to reschedule loans worth $400 billion.
The yen gained for a second day versus the dollar on speculation the financial turmoil in Europe is worsening, prompting investors to sell higher-yielding assets. The 16-nation euro also dropped against the dollar after European finance ministers signaled increasing concern that some governments are finding it harder to borrow in financial markets.” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a6t8Ejju39uo&refer=home
Tell us how Barry is going to explain what this means for the US, EU, UK and Asian economies. What impact will this have on oil prices? What impact will this have in terms of foreign policy?
I have a few more questions for you, but that’s a good start.
Be succinct. No stammering and no fillers.
Cody1991 on February 9, 2009 at 9:33 PM
As contrasted with Senator Obama’s views on school vouchers in the presidential candidate debates, where he just said there wasn’t enough money for everyone, so don’t even try?
malclave on February 9, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Ari Fleishcher thought the A-Rod question was legit. WTF?
BuckeyeSam on February 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM
He spews platitudes and talking points…
as we cut away to Rahm on the mic behind the scene…
maybe Dr C was right…;)
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I haven’t read all the comments so maybe this has been mentioned. What caught me was when BO said there’s been too much spending by consumers and ahhhh, the party is over.
Duhhh, is it just me, or was this as bad as it sounded?
SoldiersMom on February 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM
And did anyone check his head for a thinking device?
18-1 on February 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Dung it is. This crap is nothing more than extortion and armed robbery. SOBama says to America, “Put your hands up everyone-gimme all your dough or something really bad is gonna happen to ya”.
canditaylor68 on February 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM
BuckeyeSam on February 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM
The A Rod question was stupid. To be honest I was waiting for someone to ask him if the found a puppy yet. That would have made my head explode.
milwife88 on February 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM
President Obama surely did not fill me with confidence and hope based on what I saw tonight. He truly is not that great of speaker when he does not memorize his lines. The One came down a notch or two.
Jamson64 on February 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM
No fair. Benny isn’t allowed to stay up past 11 PM.
Yoop on February 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Lemme fix that up a bit:
I cannot help thinking how much better off we’d be with any politician who
actually knows something about the economyisn’t a Marxist idiot lying fool trying to con the people into letting him oversee the destruction of American liberty.LegendHasIt on February 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM
That deserved a re-post!!!
aquaviva on February 9, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Lets see,its Day #21,
feel the unity,feel the change
feel,the Loving,compassionate Liberals,
using ‘Rednecks’ Bitter Clingers’and other
derogatory phrases to describe the right!
————————————
But,YOU MUST RESPECT OBAMA!!
canopfor on February 9, 2009 at 9:39 PM
You people are just used to simplistic soundbites communicated on a 4th grade level.
“Uhhh uh uh uhhhh uh uh uhhhh uh…”
“Stand up Chuck, show yourelf…ohhhh what am I saying here…everyone stand up for Chuck…”
America now has 4th graders inhabiting the White House.
Bishop on February 9, 2009 at 9:39 PM
It just went on and on like that. I was cringing at every word. The uh uh uh and um um um were the clearest things he said for the entire speech.
canditaylor68 on February 9, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Germany, 1933.
Of course, there was that unpleasant down-side to the whole system.
Socratease on February 9, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Yoop,
and it’s getting close to his hot cocoa time…
makes him all warm inside.
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 9:41 PM
No fair. Benny isn’t allowed to stay up past 11 PM.
Yoop on February 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Yeah, his mommy probably put him to bed, or he’s googling like mad trying to come up with something like BO.
/meh
Cody1991 on February 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Obama is like trying to nail jello to a tree. He didn’t answer any of the lame-ass questions to begin with and he ranted on w/the same tired talking points he’s been spouting since his tantrum last week about “everyone’s an economist.”
We’re all gonna die…
JAM on February 9, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Remember when El Rushbo had his TV show in the early 90s? I think we need to have a daily reminder like this…..
America Held Hostage: Day 21
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 9, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Instant Karma….
diogenes on February 9, 2009 at 9:44 PM
And I’ve been asking the same thing, and wondering why no one in the media is asking this question.
Of course, I already know the answer,which is…nothing.
Buy Danish on February 9, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Wow, mother jokes. Why is it that you ‘conservatives’ are wholly incapable of being even remotely witty??
Sorry about #3, btw.
Vernon Hardapple on February 9, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Here’s an article for you, Allah. Just a little Beatles love.
silverfox on February 9, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Mr. Salt Shaker (aka benny shakar) is an idiot.
MobileVideoEngineer on February 9, 2009 at 9:47 PM
yep, must be nice to be a Democrat
jp on February 9, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Well, the rich got such a huge tax break, the poor and middle class were so jealous they rushed out and bought homes they couldn`t afford.
That`s the best I can figure.
ThePrez on February 9, 2009 at 9:48 PM
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
RightWinged on February 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Screw Maine.
WisCon on February 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Weren`t you the one who called Laura Bush a drunk driver who mowed down her old boyfriend?
ThePrez on February 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Watching the video file now; Exactly how long will the President keep saying “I inherited this deficit and economic crisis”?
The truth about the cause of the economic crisis has not been emphasized by the conservatives.
I will agree with him regarding the deficit. But let’s be honest. How can he complain about the deficit on one hand, while planning to increase the deficit quicker and to levels never before seen in history?
cryptojunkie on February 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Much of the media are basically ignorant of economic and foreign affairs matters. When that is combined with blind adoration of someone like BO, it’s a disaster. No one is asking questions above the level of a Britany Spears interview.
Cody1991 on February 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Many years ago, early in the history of the internet, I spent all my time in the News Groups. Those frequented by flamers and trolls and hardcore newsies like the Nose.
Benny fits a profile from there. Sixteen to eighteen years old, slow growth in maturity, and firm in his belief that he is getting the better of the grownups. But he also could be 35 years old with the mind of a 16 year old.
Yoop on February 9, 2009 at 9:54 PM
I can see it now…………..
Mr. Obama, after the press conference, retires to the White House with his aides, changes into the more comfortable toga, places gold wreath upon head, then asks…. “… so how did I do”?
Aides circle the room lighting candles, pouring wine, and bowing to “the One” who has seated himself on the new thrown……
“
………… you get the picture.
Seven Percent Solution on February 9, 2009 at 9:54 PM
What and waste it on you and bennie…
These burns are meant to humiliate and embarrass you for the down right stupid things you say….
but you just keep coming back for more…
To be honest… I’m actually embarrassed for you…
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM
When has he not?
baldilocks on February 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM
A point of clarification;
It is not being emphasized by the conservatives and they are allowing the blame to be placed on President Bush unfairly.
The housing bubble, the MBS credit debacle and the crash all can be laid at the feet of federal government meddling in the mortgage business courtesy of liberal policies.
cryptojunkie on February 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Fake News from BendOver Backwards News(BBN)
News Flash:
Even before President Hopey spoke,hundreds of Liberal
female journalist’s in America,and as far away as Tim-
Buck-To,fell into an orgasmic moanfest!
Even before Hopey uttered a word,the Liberal journalist’s
had all ready agreed,that Hopey has made ‘History in his
Articulation,and mezmerizing ability to communicate his
policies!
As Hopey began to speak,the more he articulated he became,
and the bigger his AURA became,untill the room was blinded
by the light!
Amazing,after normal light returned,it was a foul smell,like standing in a cow dung pile,and that was
direct quote from Biden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Snark!).Haha.
canopfor on February 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM
If only Romney would’ve been our nominee. It’d be nice to have someone who actually knows about the workings of the economy as our president right now. Eh?
therightwinger on February 9, 2009 at 9:57 PM
The big dog trained him well.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UQPUzwdX51o/SWVc61W3FgI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/nghnNwl5QKk/s1600-h/tally-new-dawg.jpg
getalife on February 9, 2009 at 9:58 PM
OT but good news-EXCLUSIVE: FBI Raided Lobbying Firm Connected to MurthaFeds Narrowing In On Companies With Ties To Congressman.
Hmm-Whats the over/under on Murtha’s “little distraction” for the Obama stimulus package?
canditaylor68 on February 9, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Thought these comments from the cloture thread were appropriate here, in light of all the whining about missing 24.
benny shakar on February 9, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Wow. What in the heck could have happened in early November 2008 that would cause such a calamity? I can’t imagine.
Buddahpundit on February 9, 2009 at 10:02 PM
get a life,
same goes for you…that was supposed to be witty?You guys are so pathetic…
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 10:02 PM
I feel sad to say this in a way…I just got meself a healthy dose of jack bauer kicking ass while protecting america, and it made me feel better for the country for that one hour.
Yes, my hope is in a fictional character kicking ass and taking the risks needed in order to save the country we all love.
All the while, my President is destroying this country from within.
This is a sad time in this great nation’s history.
lsutiger on February 9, 2009 at 10:03 PM
America held Hostage:Day 21
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on Feb 9,2009 at 9:43PM.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac: Oh that was a fun,a LMAO period when
Rush was on fire!
The Day#21,is ripped off from Rush’s
Show during the ‘Sexual Predator’ episode!
Idea?
I would imagine,that if Hot Air,had the
Berlin Wall,America Held Hostage,Day#21,
that would probably upset a LOT OF liberals!
Probably President Obama,as well!!:)
canopfor on February 9, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Seven Percent Solution on February 9, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Yep! I’m surprised they don’t surround him with the ObamaAcropolis from Denver. It was made out of styrofoam, so it shouldn’t be difficult to transport and assemble. Gives Barry the right setting, and detracts from his drivel.
Cody1991 on February 9, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Hey, speaking of knocked up at 17 – any update on when Levi and his baby mama are going to get married? Will his mother be cooking the meth for the reception?
Vernon Hardapple on January 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM
The Age of Obama: Heat for me, but not for thee
posted at 10:44 am on January 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Hey Vernon, why is it that you ‘liberals’ are wholly incapable of being even remotely witty?
Bishop on February 9, 2009 at 10:10 PM
In light of all the whinning…….
benny shaker on Feb 9,2009 at 10:01PM.
benny shaker:
Oh come on,you must of been p#ssed off,when every TV channel
went out,and President Bush spoke?
Every time President Bush spoke,he was on,for at least 30
or so stations!
canopfor on February 9, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Either way, the woman has no sense of judgement. Thankfully, she is back to guiding the Alaska leading the National Guard to victory.
Vernon Hardapple on November 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Hey Vernon, why is it that you ‘liberals’ are wholly incapable of being even remotely witty
Bishop on February 9, 2009 at 10:13 PM
George Bush is an expert on ugly women. He married Barbara.
Vernon Hardapple on January 29, 2009 at 6:34 AM
Hey Vernon, why is it that you ‘liberals’ are wholly incapable of being even remotely witty?
Bishop on February 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Maybe Palin’s daughter’s baby daddy’s mother can cook up some good stuff for Rush’s PAIN.
Vernon Hardapple on February 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Hey Vernon, why is it that you ‘liberals’ are wholly incapable of being even remotely witty?
Bishop on February 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM
So what? I mean what president in the past I don’t know how many years hasn’t also inherited a deficit? It comes with the territory.
Dave_d on February 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM
hey Bishop,
How much you wanna bet he doesn’t have a clue about what you’re doing? lmao!!!
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Did not listen as I purposely rented a movie that would last longer than Obama’s sppech. But, did hear on Greta that he told several million people that there were “no earmarks or PET PROJECTS” in this bill. I hope I got that right as it was admittedly second hand. Hannity called that a flat out lie and he’s right. Is it because Obama hasn’t read the Bill or is he nervy enough to bald faced lie to millions of Amercian people to get what he wants? Now, maybe the libs on here tonight(and Obama) don’t see anything wrong with unvarnished lying–but I do. In fact, I see it as indefensible and what’s the matter with a press who doesn’t pounce on this.
jeanie on February 9, 2009 at 10:27 PM
A “news” conference full of strawman/embarrasing arguments, fear mongering and a totally unnecessary question about A-Ro(i)d. He was caught so flat footed by the question about Iran that it took him soo many umms and aahs until he could make a coherent sentence.
Brother, can you spare me some effing “CHANGE” ?
nagee76 on February 9, 2009 at 10:29 PM
How much you wanna bet he doesn’t have a clue about what you’re doing? lmao!!!
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Digital is forever.
Bishop on February 9, 2009 at 10:31 PM
jeanie:
Obama knows that his delusional followers do not care what lies he tells. After all, as long as they get their $500 in the mail what is it to them?
There were a lot of lies. Obama did not just inherit this from Bush, he inherited it from his own party who have been running Congress for the last two years. What exactly did they do to avert this crisis?
Terrye on February 9, 2009 at 10:32 PM
You know the real Messiah was so much better at answering trick questions than this false hope and no change messiah.
Tonight we’re gonna party like it’s 1929. (from Rush)
Mojave Mark on February 9, 2009 at 10:32 PM
We have a liar for a President then. We have a man with no ethics at the head of the free world?
jeanie on February 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM
yea!!
jerrytbg on February 9, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Like most liberals, the resident lefties here are incapable of any sort of reasoned argument to support their political ideas. Their mental capacities can take them no further than childish ad hominem “jokes” aimed at whatever right-wing baddie.
ddrintn on February 9, 2009 at 10:40 PM
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