NYT: Obama thanked Collins, Snowe, Specter for their “patriotism”

posted at 12:00 pm on February 7, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Tom Maguire, marveling at how quickly assent has become the highest form:

The details [of the stimulus compromise] were negotiated at an afternoon meeting in the office of the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, involving Mr. Reid, other top Democrats and two Republicans, Susan Collins of Maine and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania. After they came to terms, the senators brought in the White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, for assurance that the deal was acceptable to the administration. Mr. Emanuel signaled it was…

Mr. Obama called Ms. Collins and Mr. Specter, as well as Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, another Republican expected to support the deal, to acknowledge they were acting against pressure from their party and, one official said, to thank them for their patriotism in helping advance the bill at a critical time.

WaPo says the cloture vote’s tentatively scheduled for 5:30 p.m. Monday with a final vote due at noon the next day, hot on the heels of Obama’s Monday night primetime presser. In the meantime, here’s The One’s latest exercise in the politics of fear, another concept earning Strange New Respect these days among the fightin’ nutroots. Fun fact from Rasmussen: The spread between those who strongly approve and disapprove of him has dropped 15 points since Inauguration Day.

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CDeb on February 8, 2009 at 8:42 AM

Has anyone seen this article? Basically, the article proposes that the spendulus bill is all ready a failure because the money isn’t earmarked and state government bureaucrats may not know how to spend it.

Really? Isn’t that part of the reason we conservatives don’t want the government spending our money? Every time the government tries to financially care for its citizens the government screws it up. Social Security, medicare and medicaid anyone? SCHIP!

willt73 on February 8, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Michael Steel just sent out an RNC email promoting citizens’ money stay in the citizens’ hands, not be forked over to big government. He needs to get explicit as to telling Republicans to call/e-mail their Senators! Also, he’s on the border to the effect that he “knows we want government to do something,” yet he didn’t say the magic words: AMERICANS DEMAND TAX CUTS AS PROMISED!


Despite Obama’s “All Aboard” rants,



It isn’t the elephant in the room but the ass that refuses to reason.

Every comprehensive legislative reform package is abominable compared to the single, well documented and argued legislative proposal per issue. Deal with a balanced budget. Pass or fail one thing at a time based alone on its own worth, with no earmarks.

maverick muse on February 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM

2 Days, Feb. 10
Senators: Just Say No!

The MEDIA demands pork now.

If legislators are so stoopid as to believe the media vs. the legislators’ constituent calls and emails, hammer them all persistently. With great rancor boycott the media crooks and VOTE OUT THEIR LEGISLATIVE CRONIES who flagrantly throw us into debtors prison for THEIR EXPENDITURES that only benefit their own elitist clique.

Burn Big Brother Marx.

maverick muse on February 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Can’t we kick Collins, Snowe, Specter out of the GOP, they are absolutly useless to us anyway?

la.rt.wngr on February 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Obama is a liar. I hope level-headed people are starting to wake up and see this.

marklmail on February 8, 2009 at 9:59 AM

What’s the big hurry in passing this massive, obscure bill? Obama’s plan is to rush through a lot of hidden liberal objectives with his urgent “house on fire” stimulus plan.

This reminds me of having a high pressure salesman camped in your living room, thrusting a pen and contract at you with the urgent warning that you must sign now to get this wonderful offer…tomorrow will be too late! No, no don’t bother to read the details of the contract now…trust me. Just sign here now!

Uniblogger on February 8, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Repeat after me


rockmom on February 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM

In the interest of full disclosure I am Sarah Palin supporter and vehemently anti-Obama. But I am also a realist and I know that in the history of America many disparate events have occurred to advance the cause of socialism and to arrive at this moment on the American timeline.

For those who seek to reverse this trend I firmly believe that the Republicans need to take back Congress in 2010 and the White House in 2012 to advert any further damage to the ‘American way of life’ and to take down Obama before he convinces America to repeal the 22nd Amendment of limiting the Presidency to 2 terms.

Let me begin by saying that the various pronounced factions of the GOP who oppose Obama and the general trend towards socialism (you cannot assume all Republicans oppose Obama)have to commit to becoming allies as the USSR became an ally of former foes, USA, Great Britain and Nationalist China, after the Nazis invaded it in 1941. The factions must humbly acknowledge that there exists an enemy greater than themselves and must agree to cooperate with each other without qualification and even more importantly without expressing any criticism of each other.

Now some will say that this attempt at unity flouts the first Amendment but what I would argue that the Constitution in affirming the rights of man and woman also gives a person the freedom or discretion not to speak as well.

With this in mind I would like to propose to the GOP a different way of looking at issues based on the concepts of individual initiative, personal responsibility, occupational accountability, economic sanity and viability, and preservation of national sovereignty.

Here are 10 proposals:

1)Let’s get this out of the way. The average person either hates politicians, considers them more deceitful than used car salesmen, sees them as hypocrites or perverts, views them as egomaniacs, or concludes they are only in politics to advance their self-interest and get rich by schmoozing up to the voters during the election and taking advantage of the electorate after they are home-free while collecting a 6 figure salary with perks.

When I was younger I was naive and thought these ideas, often misguided, could be mitigated by education or shaming politicians. I am no longer of that opinion.

So in the interest of occupational accountability, failing a law setting out term limits for the House and Senate I propose that the GOP institute and mandate a video-taped pledge that each candidate must take before being confirmed by the party as a candidate for the House or Senate (a limit of 5 consecutive terms for the House and 2 consecutive terms for the Senate); and if a member decides to renege on his pledge then the party should have the right to deny them the right to represent the party. Call it tough love but I firmly believe that before the literate, cynical electorate will trust any politician or party again the party must take the first step. I know the counter-argument: losing ‘needed’ experience, seniority, political continuity etc. but look at what political experience, seniority and continuity has brought us: European socialism. In football pundits often comment that head football coaches have a shelf life of 10 years before they become ineffective either from a lack of enthusiasm for the job or the players tuning them out. I believe the same thing happens in politics: once you stay too long at the fair you see your place in the House or Senate as a job to perform rather than a mission to accomplish and feel a sense of entitlement rather than seeing it as a privilege to serve your constitutents and the people of America.

2)Abortion should be viewed as an issue of personal responsibility rather than a ‘womans’ issue or a legal quagmire. I believe the focus on abortion should be shifted towards GOP politicians affirming that the consensual sexual expression of a man or a woman regardless who they choose to cohabit with is a Constitutional right but that anybody, man or woman, who exercises their Constitutional right of consensual sexual expression (not rape or incest) must also bear the personal responsbility of the consequences of the act whether it be increasing individual promiscuity, STD, AIDS, or pregnancy. As the government had no right to interfere with this Constitutional right or the right to use personal contraceptives, the government has no right to assume any responsibility or financial liability for the consequences of a voluntary act. Many social conservatives will howl and scream but truthfully has the constant tirade against abortion, abortion doctors and nurses, and calls for incarceration reduced abortions substantially or stopped the Democrats from getting elected. By the way, I am pro-life, but I also believe strongly in personal responsibility. A pro-choice Republican like Rudy Giuliani is NOT the enemy-Barack Obama, a supporter of infanticide and Marxist socialism, is.

3)The GOP must recognize that it is NOT a church, court or a censorship board. The party or members of the party have no right or business to JUDGE the lifestyles of other members, except for criminal activity. If one member wants to sit on a mountaintop every day to get closer to one’s inner self, or another member wants to play video games 12 hours every day, if another member wants to read Playboy magazine every day, donate his time at the local food bank every week, sell his or her GM stock, add more employees to his or her staff, or another member wants to have consensual sex with somebody of the same gender I should not give it a second thought. Defeating Obama should be enough to consume most of my focus, and the focus of every GOP member.

4)GOP members must commit to energy independence and a belief in drilling as Sarah Palin expressed so well during the campaign. But in addition to that it must establish a measuring stick or embrace definite targets to how much less foreign oil will be imported at a given date and how much a gallon of gasoline will be reduced as well and monitor the progress being made to reduce America’s dependence on foreign oil by providing Americans a semi-annual report. Declaring in a blanket statement that we need more oil production and refining capacity is not good enough.

5)The GOP must affirm their belief in individual initiative, that man or woman should be encouraged at every opportunity to be bold, venturesome and daring as America’s pioneers were and to empower themselves and invest in the future of America, that the GOP’s role is to first support candidates who have used personal initiative in their own lives to get ahead, then to encourage GOP candidates and members to talk up burning desire, ambition, and opportunity in their speeches and finally develop a platform that government should not under any circumstances pass any law that constrains or prohibits the exercise of this initiative unless it is interferring with the legal rights of another person pursuing his or her initiative.

6)The GOP must pledge to follow Sarah Palin’s lead and put the federal books online for everybody to see and to be transparent. The Presidential and VP candidates must take a televised pledge at the convention that they will veto any pork-barrel spending bill, advocate that Congress pass a Constitutional amendment for a line-item veto, and that they will favor a Constitutional Amendment to mandate balanced federal budgets. By the way the GOP must also apologize under its watch of increasing the national debt between September 2002 and September 2006 by almost 50%. If it does not acknowledge their part of the blame for the steep increase in federal debt it will not enjoy any future credibility in this area.

In addition the GOP must commit themselves to economic growth, based on lower corporate and income taxes. But even more important the GOP members must explain why supply-side economics and the ideas of Milton Friedman and Reaganomics are preferable to massive government spending and Keynesian economic ideas and in language that the average person can absorb and then spread the word by word of mouth.

7)The GOP must begin to look at national defense not from a military point of view but from a personal and economic point of view. The individual is guaranteed certain individual freedoms of expression but is not guaranteed freedom of security or freedom from harm. The role of the government is to provide the means for each citizen to do that. If that means infrastructure, armaments or personnel recruitment the money must be invested. But GOP members must affirm that defense spending must also meet the criteria of fiscal responsibility, that is yes protecting Americans and the nation’s sovereignty is vital but so is preserving the economic integrity of America for without this integrity it will become more difficult to fund adequate future defense expenditures. Patriotism and defending America needs to more than waving the flag and a blank cheque and a passport to military extravagance.

8)The GOP needs to affirm an immigration policy based on the rule of law and the protection of the rights of Americans. The GOP needs to first declare we are a sovereign nation that God has blessed; for countless millions of individuals they have been blessed by being born in America and sometimes take that for granted; for the rest of the world America is a land of opportunity and millions have a strong desire to emigrate to America.

These immigrants are like student boarders that we have consented to living under our roof. First we invite them to come to our house. They knock; we greet them at the door and welcome them into our house. Once they are in our house we show them where they will live and establish the rules under which the house is governed. For example, we may tell the boarder he may have guests over but he cannot have any parties, that he is not permitted to use the upstairs bathroom, that he must not play loud music and that he or she must pay their rent on time. But let me state clearly it is our choice and our choice alone whether to invite a boarder to our house or house a boarder or how many boarders we want to choose to live under our roof; it is our choice to only select boarders who are single college students, and it is our right to expel a student from our house if he or she has broken the rules.

Immigration policy should be conducted the same way. America has every right to restrict the number of immigrants or the type of immigrant it wants to attract by building infrastructure to keep these people out; it has every right to have an immigration policy based on the rule of law as to who can come to America and the means they must take legally to do so; and America has every right to enforce these laws and when they find individuals in America who they have not been invited they have every right to expel them. That America does not do so is not so much a question of law but the practicality of enforcing the law–that is deporting 12m+ illegal immigrants. But blanket amnesty is wrong because it would affirm that breaking the law was being rewarded. However, denying them the opportunity for full citizenship, after proving their ability to succeed in America, is un-American. So let us propose a conditional status for these people-that we will not deport them but they will not be granted full rights of citizens until they prove themselves; after 10 years (it is 5 years for permanent residents who have legally immigrated) if they are not a burden on the public purse, not participating in criminal activities and prove themselves people of good character they may apply for full citizenship. Of course their children who are born here are automatically citizens of the USA.

9)The GOP must be crystal-clear to the American people that Obama is a SOCIALIST–no more pussyfooting that he is a liberal Democrat. The party must offer a stark contrast to Obama and not water down conservatism to perhaps placate certain constituencies or interest groups. It must take the attitude conservatism is what it is. We are all Americans. Conservative ideals and principles are good for everybody.

10)Finally the GOP must pledge to not to prop up failing business and to advocate operating businesses on sound business practices that have existed over centuries rather than caving in to sociological experiments or popular sentiment that discard SBP and replace it with a concept of government being in the business of helping to fulfill an individual’s dream or need. The government should not be in the business of interferring with how one lives his or her life. Where one lives should depend on property values, location, income, occupation, personal preference, family size or attitudes towards ‘settling down’. If one cannot afford to own a home or live in NYC, that should not be the fault or concern of government.

I am not touting my proposals as an end-all of be-all to solving all the problems of the GOP but only as an invitation to further ideas. I hope they are forthcoming.

technopeasant on February 8, 2009 at 10:56 AM

If there is an 11th proposal it is that the GOP members should come out four-square against the ‘nanny state or ‘big brother’ that dictates what the fat content of food should be, what kind of light bulbs we should screw in, that we cannot smoke in our cars, outside or in our own homes, that we should set our thermostat to a certain level, that we not drive SUV’s, that we take public transportation, what type of toilet to use, helmet laws for kids on sleighs, and a ban on internet gambling.

technopeasant on February 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Repeat after me


rockmom on February 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM

This is more profound that some people might realize. This concept of crisis is going to be the Trojan horse to enact all kinds of “change” while bi-passing the traditional legislative process (speeding things through in the dark of the night and weekends without enough time for anyone to realize what the change actually is).
We must ridicule this idea of “crisis” at every opportunity or might find ourselves with some irreversible changes, such as the current take-over of the private sector economy, universal health care and even the abolition of the 22nd amendment, which could only happen under the auspices of an “unprecedented national crisis”

neuquenguy on February 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM

“Crisis is the most effective way a political party has to manage a situation.”

Rush Limbaugh

technopeasant on February 8, 2009 at 12:36 PM

The Republican party (starting with Steele on down) should do whatever it takes to ensure that these three go down in flames the next time they are up for election. They should not be allowed to continue to call themselves Republicans. All three of them are an absolute disgrace!

SimplyKimberly on February 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM

The Bush Republican party kept Specter alive because he is a useful tool. He was needed in position for the amnesty bill et al. The question is, although Steele has taken the figurehead post, are the same guys running the GOP because Specter represents their politics.

The GOP needs conservative votes to win any offices but the politics at the top of the party has been pure Specter. The party has run a good cop/bad cop game on its voters for many cycles now.

The many well positioned talking heads are still talking Bush talk when they castigate conservative voters for scaring the other fish (moderates and Hispanics) they need for the RINO party. Are these talking heads just driftwood from a ship wreck or do they represent a surviving kernel of Specterheads still in charge?

The three amoebas are embryonic stem cells to the RINO. To me they are bacterial proof of systemic infection

entagor on February 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Why do you suppose that is, President Dumbo? If you owned a business with declining sales and profitability and a socialist congress and President, wouldn’t you be laying off labor like there was no tomorrow?

Jaibones on February 8, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Mr. Obama called Ms. Collins and Mr. Specter, as well as Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, another Republican expected to support the deal, to acknowledge they were acting against pressure from their party and, one official said, to thank them for their patriotism in helping advance the bill at a critical time.

Are we living in 1984? Just three months ago, it was cool and patriotic to question our leaders. Now it is patriotic to unquestioningly pass whatever the filthy bastard in the White House wants!

highhopes on February 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Why do you suppose that is, President Dumbo? If you owned a business with declining sales and profitability and a socialist congress and President, wouldn’t you be laying off labor like there was no tomorrow?

Jaibones on February 8, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Filthy bastard would never own a business. That takes commitment, hard work, and talent.

highhopes on February 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Very few people want to ask this question. At what point do millions of Americans throw their hands up in the air and say ‘enough is enough’ and mobilize and you know do what? I am now asking the question.

technopeasant on February 8, 2009 at 6:23 PM

Not that it matters but I just sent the filthy bastard an e-mail telling him I resented the fact he was bankrupting the future of my great grandkids. How’s this for arrogance: The FIRST choice in the drop down menu about why I’m writing the filthy bastard is “congratulations.” It’s not alphabetical so I can only assume that the filthy bastard and the criminals he has surrounded himself with are mostly concerned with the feeble minded.

highhopes on February 8, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Octo-Mom: only in Obamarica.

BHO Jonestown on February 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM

To the president
Dear sir:
I didn’t vote for you exactly because
I knew you would do this.

You said it all along
You would free the “Wrongly imprisioned” meaning islamic terrorists

You could give free health care to all (except rich whites whom you will give the royal shaft)

You said you would be in favor of income re-distribution
meaning STEALING from anyone who makes more than your 42,000 dollar per year figure and give that money to every poor person in the world..

I did notice thought
that NONE of the rich liberals
EVER give their money away NO …
Ever allow any other opinion that differs from their own liberal communist view

So sir when you get ready to outlaw guns and arrest all those who stand against you

Go ahead make my day..

Until then i am clinging to
My God and My guns..

Because i know you vile vermin in our government would turn us all over to your new masters the islamic terrorists for judgment..

So I dont care what you say
your a traitor period..
To this great nation…

jcila on February 8, 2009 at 8:17 PM

hey Folks.. to reward the “Patriotism” of these three ______, why don’t we all print out an “ORDER OF LENIN” and mail it to spector, Snowe and the other dirtball.

You can get a nice color copy at Wiki Order of Lenin

maybe if they get a few thousand of these in their mailbox, they’ll get the message

bullseye on February 9, 2009 at 12:14 AM

Every time he opens his mouth I cringe.

Army Brat on February 9, 2009 at 12:46 AM

technopeasant on February 8, 2009 at 10:56 AM


Mark Garnett on February 9, 2009 at 8:23 AM

Over the weekend, I have to the conclude that the majority of Americans only see the stimulus package as a bad horror movie that one can forget after 2 hours rather than a nagging toothache that continues to worsen as the pain becomes more intense and your other teeth and gums also become gradually infected.

Otherwise why are millions of ordinary Americans not marching on Washington at this very moment to demand that Collins, Snowe, and Spector remember which party they represent and with that the values that the party represents.

technopeasant on February 9, 2009 at 9:55 AM

jcila on February 8, 2009 at 8:17 PM


ladyingray on February 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

At this time I do not feel it is appropriate to attack other Republicans. But for John McCain I can always make an exception. I may be in a minority here but I have to lay the blame for bringing the socialist revolution to fruition, the election of Obama and the decreased GOP numbers in Congress to McCain than the 3 Stooges, Collins, Snowe and Spector.

Now you anti-Palin haters will say I am being a hypocrite for not including Sarah in my condemnation.

Yes, I am a strong Sarah Palin supporter, but let me show you where McCain stood alone.

First, at the convention Sarah went on the attack and exposed Obama for who he really is and where he wanted to take America while McCain, against Rush Limbaugh’s best advice, in his speech bent over backwards to invoke bipartisanship and a diplomatic tenor and in so doing did not follow up to further expose Obama for the socialist that he really is.

Secondly, McCain voted for the bailout package; word I have heard is that Palin did not go along with this decision but had to stand behind it to provide solidarity to the ticket. Many political pundits blame the financial meltdown in general for McCain’s demise but a good number also stated that McCain could have blunted the criticism of the GOP by millions of Americans if he had voted against the bailout.

Third, in response to a woman’s question at a townhall meeting to Obama’s credentials, McCain went out of his way to defend Obama and his ability to lead the country, basically legitimizing him to the American people as a ‘good American’

And finally while Sarah Palin was more than willing to accuse Obama of being a socialist and ‘palling around with an unrepeentant terrorist’ McCain talked more about the abolition of earmarks and that ‘he was not all that concerned about the musings or activities of a ‘washed up former terrorist’. (By the way Ayres apeculated in a Weather underground meeting that 25m Americans would have to be purged to stem the counter-revolution and to solidify the revolution after it took power)

That Sarah Palin has increased her support among Republicans as we move towards 2010 and 2012 is truly remarkable considering McCain went out of his way to hand Obama the Presidency by not denouncing Wright, ACORN, or Obama’ socialist background. Probably he was afraid of being accused of being a fearmonger. But Senator McCain when the fear is real, you owed it to the American people to expose Obama’s agenda fully as John Gunther did in the 1930’s to expose the evil machinations of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime. Senator McCain, that you failed to do so is what I will remember about you: how you sold out America, and not being a POW who spent 5 and 1/2 years a prisoner who underwent torture.

I am sorry to say this but Senator McCain I am really angry at you right now. Your vehement opposition to the stimulus bill presently is an example of ‘too little, too late. Where were you in September and October and early Novemeber 2008?

technopeasant on February 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

technopeasant on February 9, 2009

I believe it’s time to amass the troops… and stock up on ammo! I have seen too many of us fellow “peasants” float this idea, and I know others are ready to fight this socialism that President* Obama is trying to shove down our throats!

And I blame McCain too. Go Sarah!

* President my ass, until I see his damn birth certificate!

Califemme on February 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM

My definition of a conservative elitist (who does not see Obama as a danger to freedom):

While being shut down or arrested by Obama’s Brown Shirts trying to rationalize how Obama could still be into repression while his poll numbers are shrinking and the pundits are constantly criticizing him.

technopeasant on February 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM