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Video: Keep Gitmo Open

posted at 2:40 pm on February 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Move America Forward plans an aggressive public-relations campaign to oppose Barack Obama’s efforts to close Guantanamo Bay’s terrorist detention center.  They will air a new television/web ad emphasizing the need to keep the nation’s worst enemies outside the US.  And given the recent polling on Gitmo, MAF will find receptive audiences:

A CBS Poll shows that 48% of Americans would rather keep Gitmo OPEN vs only 40% who say it should be closed.

A Rasmussen Poll from late last year showed 49% in favor of Gitmo and ONLY 32% in favor of shutting GITMO down!

When Move America Forward’s staff VISITED Guantanamo Bay, they found no evidence whatsoever that the detainees were ever treated poorly and saw no reason to shut down this base, which is a strategic necessity in the Global War on Terror.

Sign our petition HERE and help MAF’s campaign to SAVE GITMO and keep America SAFE!

The web video is ready, but MAF needs money to get the ad on the air.  They estimate that it will take $15K to get a single spot on Anderson Cooper’s prime-time show, $20K on Larry King Live, and $32K for O’Reilly, where MAF would mostly be preaching to the choir anyway.  But there is good news: they can get a spot on Geraldo At Large for just $12K, which gives you an idea how popular Mr. Expectorado is these days.

Be sure to sign the petition and toss a few shekels into the pot if you can.


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A poll of Congressional Democrats shows that 92% want the terrorists freed so that elected Republicans can be moved to Gitmo. The other 8% were unavailable for comment.

perroviejo on February 6, 2009 at 2:44 PM

and $32K for O’Reilly

I’d be surprised if O’Reilly doesn’t have Melanie on the show, play the commercial, and then talk about how awful the decision to close it is.

amerpundit on February 6, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Let Obama move them. If one of them escapes and kills a lib, I will not shed a tear. They voted for him, after all.

Speedwagon82 on February 6, 2009 at 2:45 PM

I like these guys but Obey will not back down. The leftists are still clearly in his pocket so long as his administration only does things that are crooked. If he flinches on the ideological stuff, they’ll turn on him like a two-dollar dance date.

hawkdriver on February 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Speedwagon82 on February 6, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Actually it’s up to us to protect the libs, since they don’t have the brains or nads to protect themselves.

perroviejo on February 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Speedwagon82 on February 6, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Wonderful.

lorien1973 on February 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM

We must keep these terrorists locked away in Cuba, because unlike murderers and rapists that we arrest and incarcerate here on American soil, GITMO captives have superhero powers and can chew through steel and cinderblocks. They would undoubtable break out of supermaximum security prisons and destroy American cities within 15 minutes of their transfer.

e-pirate on February 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Move them into Blair House.

HornetSting on February 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM

e-pirate on February 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM

You don’t think that if they were moved to say, San Diego that we would not have to increase security to keep sunny SD from becoming a target for non-incarcerated terrorists? That’s only one of the many arguments for keeping Gitmo open, the other is they enemy combatants that don’t even fall under the Geneva Convention.

No, you liberal knee jerks never think anything through.

kirkill on February 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM

e-pirate on February 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Moron

hawkdriver on February 6, 2009 at 3:12 PM

e-pirate on February 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM

I … guess you’re actually this stupid, so I guess might as well spell it out.

Most prisons in the United States are not
1) On islands
2) On ultra secure sections of those islands
3) Surrounded by land mines

Oh, and I guess the other basic fact you’re missing is that any prison that houses these creatures is a target for jihadists.

You know there are more of them out there right?

apollyonbob on February 6, 2009 at 3:12 PM

As Lt. Col Gordon Cucullu notes, Super Max prisons may be able to handle these prisoners, but the danger comes when jihadists decide to take members of the local population hostage, such as happened at Beslan.

Here’s the link to Cucullu’s Inside Gitmo website.

Buy Danish on February 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM

kirkill on February 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM

I had not yet heard the theory that other terrorists would attempt a massive plot to free their incarcerated comrades. Good point. After their 30 failed assaults to spring their buddies from Gitmo, clearly the other terrorists are just lying in wait to strike once everyone has been transferred stateside. Because its a lot easier to sneak an armed force of terrorists into America than Cuba.

The fact that this kind of massive prison rescue mission is completely unrealistic is a minor detail.

e-pirate on February 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM

you liberal knee jerks never think anything through. – Kirkill

Why think when they can just feeeeeel?

Tony737 on February 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Here’s the link to Cucullu’s Inside Gitmo website. – Danish

I gotta get this book!

Tony737 on February 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM

A CBS Poll shows that 48% of Americans would rather keep Gitmo OPEN vs only 40% who say it should be closed.

A Rasmussen Poll from late last year showed 49% in favor of Gitmo and ONLY 32% in favor of shutting GITMO down!

This is the height of folly. No, actually, it is pure unadulterated stupidity…just plain stupid. Matters of law, set by Acts of Congress and precedent, upheld by the USSC, and made part and parcel to international treaty (i.e., Geneva III)…and the decision is going to come down to polling?

Most, if not all, of the idiots “polled” on the issue have NO idea at all as to matters of Law or the Constitution, nor USSC decisions (USSC certiorari in Johnson, Secretary of Defense, et. al. v. Eisentrager, Alias Ehrhardt, [1950] establishing a nonresident enemy alien has no access to our courts in wartime, as one example) nor the implications in international law and treaty obligations as regards the detainees, terrorists, bandits,. brigands, and sabateurs.

Polls based on feelings…one hell of a way to run a government and a legal system.

Further, very few Americans are aware of “landed immigrant” status, to wit, any foreigner who sets foot on American soil is granted full access to US law and the judicial system as would any American citizen or legal resident alien. Why do you think the Coast Guard and navy spent so many years trying to keep Haitian “refugees” off the beaches and bridge pilings in the Florida Keys? The moment they set foot on the beach or jumped on a bridge piling, bingo…full access to the US system and all the benefits.

But, we gotta listen to polls, right, the people who respond to the late-night phone calls or being approached on the street by pollsters know more than everybody else about everything, so let’s let the polls decide all of our issues…and forget about the Constitution, and the legal system, the laws of land warfare, the Geneva Conventions, and all that stuff. Who cars about all of that established law and precedent anyway. We got to believe in Hope and Change…and rule by feelings…

Idiots.

coldwarrior on February 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM

My boss went to GITMO last year on some kind of consulting work for the government. He came back and said he was totally amazed at the treatment given the inmates there. He said they ate better than he did…they got 3 squares while he got MREs. They have everything an inmate could possibly want or need, including health and dental care. He said you were better off there than the local county jail here in Virginia. Sounds to me like they’ll be a lot worse off somewhere else.

scalleywag on February 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

I am in favor of closing Gitmo…

Replace it with a bulldozed trench and a machine gun.

Kuffar on February 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

You don’t think that if they were moved to say, San Diego that we would not have to increase security to keep sunny SD from becoming a target for non-incarcerated terrorists?

kirkill on February 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Myself, no, I don’t. Of course, I’m not a liberal and I don’t have a problem with Gitmo. But the notion that it’s dangerous to have bad guys locked up near you is just silly fear-mongering. We have prisons all around our community, and everybody here sleeps just fine at night, and we have for years.

The terrorists aren’t going to attempt a Jean-Claude Van Damme-style rescue of their compatriots at Ft. Leavenworth. That’s just air-headed nonsense. By all means, leave Gitmo open; it’s as good as any place. But the original reason for holding the bad guys overseas — the belief that our laws didn’t apply — has been undermined by the courts. Security was never an overriding consideration.

paul006 on February 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

YouTube

If you watch it, rate it.

Tzetzes on February 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I just remember back in 2003, when I was in the dorms at the University of Illinois, struggling to sleep while rap music played very loudly well into the early morning. Almost having to shock myself out of bed with an energy drink just so I could eat a crappy breakfast. That, and in the early months of August and September, temperatures were very high, and the lack of air conditioning made everything far more miserable.

So I happen to turn on CSPAN and hear a Democrat blowhard tell me how the prisoners at Gitmo were tortured with incessant rap music, crappy food, and no air conditioning.

To this day, I’m still waiting for a check from the University of Illinois concerning my two months of ‘torture.’

Chaz706 on February 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM

paul006 on February 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

The problem as I understand it is that as soon as they set foot on American soil, it changes their status and grants them all sorts of rights they don’t currently enjoy.

Kafir on February 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM

The problem as I understand it is that as soon as they set foot on American soil, it changes their status and grants them all sorts of rights they don’t currently enjoy.

Kafir on February 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM

That is one of several vital legal problems, but one not to be minimized.

coldwarrior on February 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I liked the Blair House suggestion, keep the decision close to home and the idiot that made it.

Hog Wild on February 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Let them all go!! Put them all on a remote controlled plane back to the Middle East with not quite enough fuel to make the trip.

tbear44 on February 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

A poll of Congressional Democrats shows that 92% want the terrorists freed so that elected Republicans can be moved to Gitmo. The other 8% were unavailable for comment.

Ah yes, that’s because Sens Kennedy and Byrd are currently unavailable and the seats held by former Sens Clinton and Kerry aren’t filled yet.

bds1976 on February 7, 2009 at 12:38 AM

My wife has suggested what to do with them:

Rendition? No way!
Set them free? Sort of.

Her solution, dump them on the Cuban side of the fence and let them fend for themselves. The only drawback to this is that within two weeks they would be on rafts to the Keys.

Kingbee on February 7, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Kingbee on February 7, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Fidel would scoop them up and make heroes out of them.

Disturb the Universe on February 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM

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