i’ve yet to hear an argument in support of a palin 2012 campaign which is of the dry-eyed, cool-headed variety.

maybe you’ve got one.

eh on February 7, 2009 at 9:18 AM

I’ve yet to hear a cogent one against her.

Frum complains about the “cultural animosities” in the conservative base. To which I say – if someone feels compelled to vote for a socialist because social conservatives scare him,
a) he cannot be much of a sensible secular small government conservative either.
b) he is certainly full of “cultural hostility”.

No, I don´t think Palin is perfect as she is; clearly she still has a lot to learn. But she is a hell of a lot more impressive in terms of character than our current clown of a vice president (and let´s face it, he doesn´t know much either). Palin would hardly have done more damage to the nation than Barack Obama and the current congress are doing right now.

Once again: THEY are the party of Michael Moore and Al Franken and Jack Murtha, of urban decay and machine politics and tax cheating politicians who ought to be in jail. And I´m supposed to be ashamed of Palin or Limbaugh or whoever the libs´ current bête noire is? Screw that.

Let´s cut the crap. I don´t consider myself a strong social conservative and I am not even religious but it is pretty obvious: If Palin had been moderately pro-choice and said exactly the same things but in accent-free English, even Frum wouldn´t question her experience and potential.

Well , I like to see and read all the editorials he had written during his tenure at the prestigious Harvard Law Review . Of course , being a former editor @ HLR doesn’t exactly meets the criteria of real life , does it ??

Benny shakar

And what was the executive experience of Obama prior to becoming President ?

DinobotPrime on February 7, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Why, our unqualified success was the editor of the Harvard Law Review, of course!

And what was the executive experience of Obama prior to becoming President ? None , zilch , nada , wala and zero . What was his experience in real life prior becoming POTUS . A community organizer which he failed , a University professor in a prestigious university in Chicago that was afraid to participate in friendly debates between conservative and liberal professors and oh btw , never bothered to do a paper for peer review . A Harvard Law Review editor whose editorial trail leaves something to be desired . A state senator who never wrote a bill but due to Emil Jones , was able to get his name as the principal author on bills that other senators wrote and worked hard for that became part of Illinois law . A junior Illinois Senator that spend more time campaigning to become President rather than being Senator .

Explain to me again why Palin who was running for VP was deemed unqualified when Obama who is now President had a background while impressive in paper had nothing to say about leadership , working under pressure and under adverse situations in real life ?

Not even close. The population of Wasilla never exceeded 6,000 when palin was mayor; even today the town’s own website lists the population at 7,000. In other words, there are high schools that are bigger than Wasilla. This photo should help outsiders understand the executive experience a Mayor of Wasilla gains.

benny shakar on February 7, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Which is about 6,000 more than Obama was ever responsible for…until now. And it’s showing.

* mayor of a town with a five-figure population
eh on February 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Not even close. The population of Wasilla never exceeded 6,000 when palin was mayor; even today the town’s own website lists the population at 7,000. In other words, there are high schools that are bigger than Wasilla. This photo should help outsiders understand the executive experience a Mayor of Wasilla gains.

More recently, palin has been governor of a state with as many residents as Boise Idaho for about a year (when she finds the time between photo-ops in the lower-48).

palin/bachman 2012… PLEASE! :D

kingsjester on February 7, 2009 at 11:22 AM

To make sense of the post, check out the Postmodernism Essay Generator. It’s a barrel of laughs, by the way.

eh on February 7, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Quite to the contrary. If one engages a cultural neodialectic theory of political dialectics, one is faced with a choice: either accept the textual paradigm of discourse or conclude that consensus is a product of the collective unconscious. If cultural neodialectic theory holds, it could be said that conceptualist Marxism demonstrates that the primary goal of the existential being is social comment.

Structural predialectic theory compels a further choice: either reject cultural neodialectic theory or conclude that truth serves to entrench capitalism. Herschberger states that we have to choose between conceptualist Marxism and textual materialism. Thus, the main theme of d’Erlette’s analysis of cultural neodialectic theory is a mythopoetical whole.

Finally, if cultural neodialectic theory holds, we have to choose between conceptualist Marxism and the cultural paradigm of consensus. The characteristic theme of Parry’s[6] critique of capitalist materialism is the fatal flaw of neotextual sexual identity. Lacan suggests the use of Sartreist absurdity to attack capitalism. However, the primary theme of the works of Stone is the role of the political activist as observer.

“Class is intrinsically elitist,” says Sartre; however, according to de Selby, it is not so much class that is intrinsically elitist, but rather the stasis, and some would say the rubicon, of class. The premise of constructivism implies that reality has intrinsic meaning, given that Sartreist absurdity is invalid. Thus, any number of narratives concerning the bridge between class and culture may be found.

eh on February 7, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Don’t take my fake name in vain, man

I said I support Pence, not Palin, for POTUS

Frum is what I said he is, and more. I explained why.

Read his books and articles: he’s a badly-flawed person, to put it mildly

I agree with you on McCain. I thought his addition of Palin to the ticket was the first thing he did right. It energized the base. Otherwise, we really would have been slaughtered.

Rush Limbaugh even called McCain John McBrilliant.

Having said that, as a conservative I was never blind to McCain’s flaws as a Presidential candidate. I knew that if all he could focus on was bipartisanship, abolishing earmarks, and winning in Iraq it would probably be a losing proposition.

I also knew if McCain could not become more eloquent and enunciate forcefully conservative principles his fate would probably be sealed. Obama was just too charismatic and the MSM was just too much in the tank for him for McCain to have much of a chance. You could equate this to a football team who is capable of performing well against Team A but not matching up well against Team B.

And of course the financial meltdown and McCain’s support of the bailout bill proved to be the final nail on the coffin for McCain’s campaign.

Supporting Sarah and recognizing McCain’s limitations are not mutually exclusive. Conservatives can walk and chew gum at the same time.

At least McCain gave us the means (Sarah Palin) to rebuild the conservative movement. For that I am grateful to him.

the palinites didn’t start being obnoxious on november 6th. before they even knew her name they were attacking mccain more harshly than they would attack obama. palin’s selection only trans-substantiated the “real” conservatives anti-mccain hate into a human body. from then on throughout the election cycle, while the despised “rinos” supported the entire ticket and defended palin against her leftwing assailants, the palinites did everything they could to polarize the ticket, adopting leftwing talking points in the course of it. even now when he’s safely back in congress doing exactly what you claim to want him to be doing, and what he’d probably be doing right now if he were president, the palinites still talk smack.

eh on February 7, 2009 at 1:58 PM

See, you’re creating straw men again. I haven’t attacked McCain in the same way I criticize Obama. I don’t worship Sarah Palin. Your line of reasoning seems to be, “Palin has some real, unthinking zealots supporting her. Therefore she is garbage.” THAT’S garbage.

You still haven’t voiced an alternative. I don’t think you have one. You seem to be clear about what you’re against, not what you’re for. I don’t have much time for such people. Buh bye.

Well, that’s just this site. I would have to have at least a couple of weeks to come up with the lowest-common-denominator attacks on Palin.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 1:39 PM

you’ll never find it’s match on any conservative site. guaranteed.

the palinites didn’t start being obnoxious on november 6th. before they even knew her name they were attacking mccain more harshly than they would attack obama. palin’s selection only trans-substantiated the “real” conservatives anti-mccain hate into a human body. from then on throughout the election cycle, while the despised “rinos” supported the entire ticket and defended palin against her leftwing assailants, the palinites did everything they could to polarize the ticket, adopting leftwing talking points in the course of it. even now when he’s safely back in congress doing exactly what you claim to want him to be doing, and what he’d probably be doing right now if he were president, the palinites still talk smack.

There is a Youtube video that my teenage son showed me about people getting upset over posts on blogs. You need to watch it. Seriously, dude.

With regards to Sarah I accept how she performed in the last campaign and why she did what she did but at the same time look forward enthusiatically to her fulfilling her potential and just as important dethrone Obama in 2012.

If you have read any of my past postings I am virtually obsessed with Obama and his defeat. I am a student of history. I know what tyranny Obama and his merry men and women are capable of. Read Mein Kampf, Rules for Radicals or Atlas Shrugged if you doubt my sincerity or my reasons for pessimism.

Why are you concerned?

waste. embarrassing, appalling waste.

And why not offer an alternative? Surely you have someone, anyone, in mind? Come on.

i have the humility to admit that i have no idea what set of issues or qualities in a candidate could potentially be responsive to events three years down the road. again, sorry.

… point out their most appealing proponent at the moment.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM

seriously, i couldn’t say.

I’ll repeat the question. Give us a REAL conservative platform, and point out a likely candidate. Or else go back to your Philosophy 101 text.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

honestly, i…

Point out an alternative.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 11:48 AM

jesus! i’m ready to say lindsay graham just to piss you off.

You can b*tch and moan about a potential candidate that some people DO support, but can’t come up with an alternative? I mean, voicing support for Graham would at least be SOMEthing.

You see, here’s one of the fascinating things about the Palin phenom from the very beginning. That “antis” have always been far more fervent than the “pros” will ever be…

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:23 PM

so silly…take me to the teamgiuliani2012 page. i can’t find it.

and on a far more personal, almost primitive level.

lol!

Well, that’s just this site. I would have to have at least a couple of weeks to come up with the lowest-common-denominator attacks on Palin.

Why are you concerned?

waste. embarrassing, appalling waste.

And why not offer an alternative? Surely you have someone, anyone, in mind? Come on.

i have the humility to admit that i have no idea what set of issues or qualities in a candidate could potentially be responsive to events three years down the road. again, sorry.

… point out their most appealing proponent at the moment.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM

seriously, i couldn’t say.

I’ll repeat the question. Give us a REAL conservative platform, and point out a likely candidate. Or else go back to your Philosophy 101 text.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

honestly, i…

Point out an alternative.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 11:48 AM

jesus! i’m ready to say lindsay graham just to piss you off.

You can bitch and moan about a potential candidate some people DO support, but can’t come up with an alternative? I mean, voicing support for Lindsay Graham would at least be SOMEthing.

You’re good at constructing straw men. I don’t think anyone is saying that Palin should be handed the nomination without a primary fight.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM

lol!

Our job, as supporters of Sarah, is to stand behind her and encourage her to be the best she can be and to defend her to the death against those who throw up roadblocks or are obsessed with thwarting Sarah from fulfilling what we perceive as her eventual destiny.

catch the fever!

sarahpac
team sarah

We’ll see, won’t we? If it doesn’t extend beyond the walls of the “echo chamber”, Palin will vanish away. If not, she won’t.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:18 PM

she will. obama worship occupies the space if populism and that majority populist mass was specifically mobilized against palinite populism. the more the palinites’ minority populism asserts itself against the majority obamaite populism, the more pushback it will encounter, until it’s ultimately pushed off the board. if you’re counting on the majority waking up and becoming rational about obama, the gop had better have something rational to offer them. populism will only keep the reaction/counter-reaction going, and going against the right.

Why are you concerned?

waste. embarrassing, appalling waste.

And why not offer an alternative? Surely you have someone, anyone, in mind? Come on.

i have the humility to admit that i have no idea what set of issues or qualities in a candidate could potentially be responsive to events three years down the road. again, sorry.

… point out their most appealing proponent at the moment.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM

seriously, i couldn’t say.

I’ll repeat the question. Give us a REAL conservative platform, and point out a likely candidate. Or else go back to your Philosophy 101 text.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

honestly, i…

Point out an alternative.

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 11:48 AM

jesus! i’m ready to say lindsay graham just to piss you off.

You see, here’s one of the fascinating things about the Palin phenom from the very beginning. That “antis” have always been far more fervent than the “pros” will ever be…

ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:23 PM

so silly…take me to the teamgiuliani2012 page. i can’t find it.

and on a far more personal, almost primitive level.

lol!

Allah Pundit is an idiot.

revolution on February 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Frum is a malignant dwarf weasel who’s not fit to be peed upon if he catches on fire

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Hey Dave, did your beard, er, wife, tell you to write this one, too?

PimFortuynsGhost on February 6, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Hi’s just a fifth column.

the_nile on February 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Frum dumb.

artist on February 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Frum, please go back to the cave (i.e. your wife’s neather regions) because you are starting to stick of a mentor sexual pansey boy again, and the stentch is getting rancid!

upinak on February 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM

When did Frum stop being a pansy boy??

thirteen28 on February 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Attention Mr. Frum -

SHUT…. UP!!!!

creatocon on February 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM