Quote of the day

posted at 10:00 pm on February 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

“You’d think that after eight years of George W. Bush, conservatives would have discovered a new respect for the difficulty of successful governance. Yet just as Tanenhaus diagnosed: it is cultural hostility that still most excites our passions…

Cultural populism comes in many forms, and it’s not at all clear that Palin’s particular style of populism has much shelf life. The resentments of the future are much more likely to be expressed with a Latino accent.

In one respect, at least, I very much agree with [Yuval] Levin. The Palin story was always less about Palin, and more about the response to Palin. And the continuing inability of even our conservative best and brightest to elevate their concern for the responsibilities of government over their cultural animosities suggests that this story’s most painful chapters remain to be written.”

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Quoting Frum TWICE in one day? On the same day as Porkulus? You are worried about the lack of Pajamas Media revenue, aren’t you?

C’mon Allah, set up a tip jar. At least be honest. This is getting freakin’ ridiculous.

fiatboomer on February 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

You’d think that after eight years of George W. Bush, conservatives would have discovered a new respect for the difficulty of successful governance.

Bush governed as a conservative? Why wasn’t I told.

MB4 on February 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Frum where do you get your definition of conservatism?

FloridaBill on February 6, 2009 at 10:08 PM

I tired of the Palin bashing and starting to see it’s the bashers who are overly obsessed with Palin as a topic.

Topsecretk9 on February 6, 2009 at 10:17 PM

I too read Levin’s piece and it is interesting, but to continue too much of this faux intellectual analysis of cultural populism and elitism only serves to benefit her detractors – on the left AND the right.

Those of us who support her do so from the heart, and realize, as well as embrace, the power of a single person to affect those that touch from their heart – the true servant’s heart.

Much the same could be said and argued about Christ and Christianity, but those who believe and accept, simply do; they do not waste the time intellectualizing His existance and purpose.

singlemalt_18 on February 6, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Who said David Frum was a Conservative? He hasn’t a clue.

BetseyRoss on February 6, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Also, I would not agree that this registers as “quote of the day”

Topsecretk9 on February 6, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Allah Pundit is an idiot.

revolution on February 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Frum where do you get your definition of conservatism?

FloridaBill on February 6, 2009 at 10:08 PM
——
I find a disturbing lack of difference between Frum and other alleged “conservatives” and the main sewer media.

Same disease that afflicts so many Hollywood Hypocrites – lack of connections with the Rest Of Us.

For all her faults, Palin “gets” that the country does not consist of New York and California.

Mew

acat on February 6, 2009 at 10:21 PM

More cowbell Palin.

redrock on February 6, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Okay,so that means,that the Republican Party,
has to have a Puerto Rican,transplanted to Alaska,
as a child,can’t prove where they were born,is more
slightly left,the parents are teachers,him/her is
against guns,is enviromentaly against the oil pipe
line,wants a stimulous handout,keeps the jet,re-hires
the staff for the governors mansion,has a lein on the
mansion,and hasn’t paid their taxes since birth!!!!

and then,and only then,will the Republican Party
have a candidate that is ‘ELECTABLE”! (Snark!).

canopfor on February 6, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Sarah was savagely attacked by Ashley Judd on Larry King tonight without Sarah being present to defend herself. The MSM is still out to get her.

technopeasant on February 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

ALLAHPUNDIT: Didn’t you say you’d stop posting about Palin unless it was REALLY REALLY newsworthy because you couldn’t stand the headaches?

Well some yahoo posting on his own website isn’t REALLY REALLY newsworthy.

We all have enough headaches from the Stimulus BS.

You really do deserve all of the punishment you inflict upon yourself.

jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

[S]he ended up at the center of a political and cultural vacuum of her own creation. She began by opening up a huge space for herself, and then was unable to fill it.

How did she do this? Look at how she governs. No one has pointed out what Biden offered Obama and what did Biden contribute to Obama’s vision for governing? Not a damn thing. Palin has done more in ACTUAL governing than everyone else on either national ticket in ’08. Treat her like a man and look at what she has done dammit! Not at her family, what she wears or whether she shoots wolves. She’s the one for me in 2012!

Herb on February 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Blah blah blah blickety blah blah blickety blah.

I’m just blabbering to get the post count up, since that seems the only reason lately to produce threads about a conservative woman that everyone has supposedly written-off as irrelevant.

Come on everyone, join in:

Blah blah blickety blah….get the count up!

Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

( sigh….)

Conservatism is not dead: it will never die

Frum is a malignant dwarf weasel who’s not fit to be peed upon if he catches on fire

Sarah Palin has more sense in her left big toe than Frum has in his entire fat head

Exit question: why does this blog run threads like this EVERY F+CKING DAY ??

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM

The resentments of the future are much more likely to be expressed with a Latino accent.

Yeah…….

……… the civil war in Mexico is going pretty well.

Let’s follow their lead………..

…….. one party rule.

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Is Frum a seeded plant from the Liberal Party,
that is trying slowly, to reform and reshape,the
right!

canopfor on February 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Conservatism is not dead: it will never die

Besides which WE go to heaven when we die.

Mojave Mark on February 6, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Exit question: why does this blog run threads like this EVERY F+CKING DAY Every fucking other hour ??

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM

redrock on February 6, 2009 at 10:26 PM

…since that seems the only reason lately to produce threads about a conservative woman that everyone has supposedly written-off as irrelevant.

Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

She is irrelevant, Bishop. Time to move on. You can do it…I know that you can…

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM

What do the Palin supporters here at Hot Air define as conservatism? Frum reports on the way Palin actually governs when it comes to fiscal matters yet nobody pays attention to that, just the same old attacks on anyone that dares criticizes Gov. Palin.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:28 PM

What do the Palin supporters here at Hot Air define as conservatism? Frum reports on the way Palin actually governs when it comes to fiscal matters yet nobody pays attention to that, just the same old attacks on anyone that dares criticizes Gov. Palin.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Good luck…I’ve been trying to get an answer to that question for months now.

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM

I wonder if Sher,thinks the ‘Cuda is a threat
to,

Sher’s very existence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM

We all have enough headaches from the Stimulus BS.
jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Personally, it is precisely because of the porkulus bullshit that I would rather ponder further the future of an attractive, intelligent, woman of conviction…

I understand Allah, its OK!

singlemalt_18 on February 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM

It is true, so very very true. Strip away the ideology and elite liberals and elite conservatives are the same person. Resentful of the little people. Palin represents as big a threat to the ivory tower of conservatism as she does to the identity poltics of the female gender. She has no frineds in a larger sense. I can pretty much gaurantee you most Republican politicians dislike Palin.

If Palin can joust with conservative elites on their own turf; when she can have a showdown with Kathleen Parker and strip the flesh from her bones while maintaining her folksy appeal and leaving conservative elites slacked jawwed at her ability… she will be a political juggernaut.

Theworldisnotenough on February 6, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I still haven’t seen a single Liberal outline line by line their objections with the Conservative philosophy and principles. They can’t so they resort to ad hominem attacks that we’re “racists”, “rednecks”, “mean”, etc.

Name calling substituted for rational arguments.

DerKrieger on February 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM

On a day like this one, THIS is the Quote of the Day?

AP. Over reaching.

DrStock on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM

I love this site, but that is in no way quotable. Have you read VDH’s piece today? It’s front page worthy.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDA1MTkzYTc4NjA5MWQxOGNjMzU3YmZiYTJhZDQ5YTY=

commodore on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Allah Pundit is an idiot.

revolution on February 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Go to another site then, you schmuck.

Tzetzes on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Do you think that Sarah’s perception by the media and public might have had something to do with the facts that Sarah was not put through a training camp to prepare her for the VP campaign, that the McCain campaign controlled her every move and her itinerary until the last month of the campaign and that she had to echo McCain policy positions on various subjects.

You take all these facts together, although she performed admirably, Sarah was defined by the MSM without getting a true picture of all her abilities.

Sarah if she wants to take on national politics again will be much better prepared, will be able to control who she talks to and when and will be able to formulate her own positions that she believes wholeheartedly in.

technopeasant on February 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM

I tired of the Palin bashing and starting to see it’s the bashers who are overly obsessed with Palin as a topic.

Topsecretk9 on February 6, 2009 at 10:17 PM

I’m not sure if it’s obsession or if people like Frum realize they’re just not relevant unless they’re bashing Palin.

clearbluesky on February 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM

She is irrelevant, Bishop. Time to move on. You can do it…I know that you can…
JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Twice-daily Palin threads at HA and regular beat-downs by the MSM would show otherwise.

Irrelevance is now portrayed by constant attention and critique? David Soul as an actor is irrelevant, Sarah Palin as a politician is not.

Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Question: Whom will the democrats spend more time bashing during the rest of the year?

1) Bush, who is no longer President.

2) Palin, who is not now, and never even has been, President or a member of congress.

KentAllard on February 6, 2009 at 10:37 PM

IMO, Frum’s writing is pedantic and pedestrian. It’s hard to believe he was once a speechwriter.

OTOH, Thomas Sowell is a brilliant economist whom you would expect to be boring writes quickly and to the point.

Here’s Sowell mentioning Palin in a column he wrote about Michael Steele:

One of the huge and perennial handicaps of the Republicans is that they seldom have anybody who can articulate their case to the public. It is hard to win the White House with candidates like Bob Dole and John McCain.

That was why Governor Sarah Palin was such a sensation in arousing the grassroots Republicans. She could talk!

Try to name five articulate Republicans. Ronald Reagan, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln come to mind. After that, you have to rack your brain.

INC on February 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Can we just agree that McCain picked the worst personalities possible to run his campaign? I know people whined about Bush’s team being all his friends, but at least they weren’t backbiting, coming up with stupid “suspend my campaign” theatrics, and trashing Dick Cheney at every opportunity.

Speedwagon82 on February 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM

On a day like this one, THIS is the Quote of the Day?
AP. Over reaching.
DrStock on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM

No shiite.

How about Bob Corker saying this stimulus package is nothing short of a disaster?

But no, we get another bloviation about Palin from her a lustful secret admirer.

Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Say all you want about Karl Rove, the man knew how to win elections.

technopeasant on February 6, 2009 at 10:41 PM

AllahPundit is an idiot

revolution on Feb 6,2009 at 10:20PM.

revolution:!!!!!!!!BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your gonna get stoned!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Frum reports on the way Palin actually governs when it comes to fiscal matters yet nobody pays attention to that, just the same old attacks on anyone that dares criticizes Gov. Palin.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Oh, please. Frum’s garbage is a caricature. Quick question – in response to a budget crisis, which governor froze state hiring and proposed budget cuts? Hint: it wasn’t Bobby Jindal, Tim Pawlenty, or Charlie Crist. Which Republican governor came out hard against Porkulus? Palin and 3 others…Perry, Sanford, and Barbour.

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM

I’m not a “Palin supporter”. I’m a Frum-despiser.

He’s a degenerate liar and whore for the Left–and he betrayed what I believed in ( and what he supposedly believed in ) because conservatives are supposedly Mean to homo-sexuals.

Alaska is a unique state: okay, all states are unique but Alaska is More Unique than the other 49 ( or the other 56 in Obama-speak ): More resources per person than any other state, by a Factor of Many.

therefore…..conservative governance in Alaska will not look like c.g. elsewhere. Almost a century as a fed-administered territory created an umbilical cord to Momma Government that even a Reagan couldn’t break

Mostly I like her because she makes every Leftard on earth go crazy: I like to watch the foaming at the mouth, the screeching and howling, etc.

I want that guy Pence from Indiana to be POTUS ( and I want the current occupant of the office to fail )

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM

What do the Palin supporters here at Hot Air define as conservatism? Frum reports on the way Palin actually governs when it comes to fiscal matters yet nobody pays attention to that, just the same old attacks on anyone that dares criticizes Gov. Palin.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:28 PM

How about this: Not voting for the Economy Wreckin’ Stimulus, as Arlen “Energy Drain” Specter and both of Maine’s Senators plan to do. Can we at least agree on that?

fiatboomer on February 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM

commodore on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM

VDH is on a roll.

Here is a follow-up to your link.

A Rather Modest Observation, Really

INC on February 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Good luck…I’ve been trying to get an answer to that question for months now.

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM
——

Fiscal Conservative – someone who believes gov’t is the least efficient way to do something, prefers the private sector go do stuff.

Social Conservative – someone who believes there is a role for the government in defending the social contract we all live under.

Religious Conservative – someone who believes that the divorce between church and state has gone far enough, thank you.

How hard was that, JetBoy?

Mew

p.s. Go google the Pournelle Axes so you can talk intelligently about the reason there’s more than one kind of Conservative.

acat on February 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Those who claim conservatism is dead are the ones that desire its death.

Conservatism is common sense and individualism. Liberalism/ moderates are the ones that abandon common sense and want to manipulate and be manipulated.

jencab on February 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM

What do the Palin supporters here at Hot Air define as conservatism?

Same as it’s ever been. A believe in the founding documents and a desire to preserve and conserve (hence the term) those values unmolested so as to give to future generations the ability for them to secure their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

Spirit of 1776 on February 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM

No comments on todd palin and 9 palin staffers being found in contempt by the Alaska Senate today for ignoring subpoenas to testify in the Troopergate investigation?

I am shocked!

benny shakar on February 6, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Quick question – in response to a budget crisis, which governor froze state hiring and proposed budget cuts

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM

I thought you swore off Hot Air, a few times now? Since you’re here, tell me about theses “proposed budget cuts”. Last I looked Alaska was looking at a 1.6 billion dollar deficit for this fiscal year and Palin hasn’t proposed any cuts.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:48 PM

commodore on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever seen VDH get a QOTD.

jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Fiscal Conservative – someone who believes gov’t is the least efficient way to do something, prefers the private sector go do stuff.

Social Conservative – someone who believes there is a role for the government in defending the social contract we all live under.

Religious Conservative – someone who believes that the divorce between church and state has gone far enough, thank you.

acat on February 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM

OK…so you need to be a total fiscal, social, and religious con to be considered one of the “true conservatives”? No leeway there anywhere? (lest one be labeled a “RINO”)

Twice-daily Palin threads at HA and regular beat-downs by the MSM would show otherwise.

Irrelevance is now portrayed by constant attention and critique? David Soul as an actor is irrelevant, Sarah Palin as a politician is not.

Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:36 PM

eh…AP just likes to watch you guys fall all over yourselves about the Palinator. Can’t say I don’t enjoy it too.

I mean, who knows…4 years from now I may change my mind. It’s a long way off, and anything can happen. There’s a guy in Florida I’m keeping my political eye on…

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM

benny shakar on February 6, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Do you know how many times Rove has ignored subpoenas to appear before some BS Senate committee? And he’s still a magnifiscent bastard.

jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM

test

TheBlueSite on February 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM

I’m going to just repost what I wrote before, with minor additions:

It’s an interesting article, but Frum spends too much time engaged in the same sort of characterization he decries. It seems unfair and untrue to dismiss those who adhere to ideology as “men of wrath.”

Frum complains about the unwillingness of ideological purists to compromise, but then spends a good deal of the article clucking at them in a condescending manner. If he was truly interested in party unity, then he’s got to cut down on the subtle cheap shots at those with whom he disagrees and approach the debate in good faith.

Sarah Palin is a gifted politician, but I’m leery of making her – or anyone, really – the face of “true conservatism” since putting an ideology’s hopes in one person is an exercise in inevitable frustration. It’s unfair for conservatives to use her as a measuring stick to measure who is and who is just a true conservative, and it’s also unfair for writers like Frum to regard her as everything that ails the Republican party and tsk tsk at what he sees as the rubes who supported her.

I like Palin and want to see her succeed politically, but people on both sides of this argument do her no favors by regarding her as a symbol rather than a politician.

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 10:51 PM

It’s unfair for conservatives to use her as a measuring stick to measure who is and who is just a true conservative

Bah. Wine + keyboard = bad grammar.

Meant to say: It’s unfair for conservatives to use her as a measuring stick to measure who is and who is not a true conservative

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 10:52 PM

What’s happening with Palin is the Clinton syndrome. It’s where the other side is able to turn you against your own. Republicans were pros at this. And this is why Hillary lost. It’s a leftover from the Clinton years. Now it’s happening to Palin.

The problem is that this tactic, when used by the Republicans, almost destroyed the Democrats. Now it’s the Republicans that are on the verge of destruction. Still, I think Obama’s administration is over if he passes the stimulus bill. What the Republicans will do is unknown, but internal bickering isn’t helping and there may be no Republican party to speak of soon by the looks of it.

MrX on February 6, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 10:51 PM

It’s not unfair to look at the way Palin governs to tell if she’s a fiscal conservative.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:54 PM

benny shakar on February 6, 2009 at 10:48 PM

troll; gossip-mongering beta-femme retard.

You have the stink of HuffPo on your stupid cliches and insults every time you post

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 10:55 PM

It’s not unfair to look at the way Palin governs to tell if she’s a fiscal conservative.

What I mean is that it’s unfair to use whether one likes or dislikes Palin as a yardstick to measure their fealty to conservative ideology.

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM

2009 Earth

Almost 1 Trillion gazillion dollar stimulus plan!

Yet,Liberals have been caught,selling Senate seats,
and not paying taxes,

Meanwhile in Alaska,one lone Conservative has halted
corruption,CUT BACK ON THE STAFF at the Governors
Mansion,SOLD THE JET,and is actually doing her part,

Meanwhile,last week,a Liberal in Alaska,lements,theres
not enough lights on in the Governor Mansion,a lone
Conservative is doing her part for the environment and
the fake ‘Global Warming’!

So,SaraCuda is doing her part,and is walking the talk,

and Liberals are b#tchin,and talking about it!!!

Interestng!

canopfor on February 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM

This is just more of the same “elite intellectual” cr*pola from the Washington/academic set. Sarah isn’t the Governor of a “real” state, one of those liberal northeastern ones; sarah didn’t go to the “right” schools; Sarah doesn’t attend the “right” parties; Sarah isn’t a member of the “right” groups. At the end of the day the Washington/academia set isn’t Democrat or Republican, its “elite Northern/Eastern pseudo-intellectual” — their politics is themselves. They are the same people that did the things that caused the War Between the States 140 years ago, just more modern.

I like Sarah because she has spunk; she tells you what she thinks, not what she thinks you want to hear. I supported her if for no other reason than she breathed life into McCain’s moribund campaign. I don’t think she is the only possible conservative candidate or the natural leader of the party, but she is a “real” person, not some phony intellectual of either party.

There is no difference between Frum and any of the innumerable pseudo-intellectuals of the left.

johnsteele on February 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM

It’s not unfair to look at the way Palin governs to tell if she’s a fiscal conservative.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 10:54 PM

There is no income or sales tax in Alaska. That’s pretty damn conservative in my book.

jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Sarah Palin is a gifted politician, but I’m leery of making her – or anyone, really – the face of “true conservatism” since putting an ideology’s hopes in one person is an exercise in inevitable frustration. It’s unfair for conservatives to use her as a measuring stick to measure who is and who is [not] just a true conservative…

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 10:51 PM

I’m imbibing myself prior to my clubbing departure…didn’t even catch the typo…

But in any event, +100 to that statement. My thoughts exactly.

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Oops,thats interesting,sp/eror,Ugh!

canopfor on February 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Say all you want about Karl Rove, the man knew how to win elections.

technopeasant on February 6, 2009 at 10:41 PM

I’m not a really big fan of Rove or Bush today. Pat Toomey of Club for Growth posed a serious challenge to Specter in ’04, saying that Specter was too liberal and a big spender. Bush rallied to Specter’s cause and he won against Toomey with 51%.

Allah Pundit is an idiot.

revolution on February 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Why do you come here?

amerpundit on February 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Palin’s biggest contribution to politics is two-fold.

First, she showed us what we could be, if we tried hard enough.

Second, she pulled the veil away from the sour-pusses who think they are the conservative voice. And they don’t like it!

OldEnglish on February 6, 2009 at 11:01 PM

jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM

So conservatism is about relying on profiting from resources and corporate taxes to sponsor government now?

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 11:01 PM

I’m imbibing myself prior to my clubbing departure…didn’t even catch the typo…

Wait…prior to departure?

Dang. That makes me feel old, since my evening is coming to an end while yours is just beginning.

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 11:01 PM

So Palin needs to learn Espanol… and wear a sombrero made of wolf hide?

And Frum needs to be relegated to Noonan nothingness.

profitsbeard on February 6, 2009 at 11:02 PM

OK…so you need to be a total fiscal, social, and religious con to be considered one of the “true conservatives”? No leeway there anywhere? (lest one be labeled a “RINO”)

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM
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There’s just as many stripes of “conservatives” as there are of “liberals”, and while some common threads (self-determination, forex.) run through all conservatives, it’s not a static structure.

So. Drop the labels and argue the merits of the positions.

Is it better for a person to be tested in grade school and be told what career they will have? Not “we recommend Timmy go into a mechanical trade”, more of “Timmy will become a tradesman”, with all future education tailored for that end?

Is it better for a person to be able to choose what they believe about God, or for them to be told en masse “You are all Catholic” or “You are all atheist”?

Labels are fun. Labels are useful. Labels abstract the discussion, though, so it’s important to lift the lid and measure what’s underneath every now and then, lest what you think is H2O be found to be H2S04…

Mew

acat on February 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Despite the unkind things some people say about Sarah, I still find myself wanting to have sex with her. A lot. And it’s a powerful urge.

Blacksheep on February 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

this story’s most painful chapters remain to be written.”

Irony, look it up!

dmann on February 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

What I mean is that it’s unfair to use whether one likes or dislikes Palin as a yardstick to measure their fealty to conservative ideology.

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM

That’s true and I don’t question Palin’s social conservatism, I question her fiscal conservative ideology.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

The Palin story was always less about Palin, and more about the response to Palin.

The media wants to keep attacking her and wants to keep her in the spotlight because they know it infuriates YOU and makes you rally around her – which prevents you from getting behind someone who can help the Republican party.

popularpeoplesfront on February 6, 2009 at 11:04 PM

I tired of the Palin bashing and starting to see it’s the bashers who are overly obsessed with Palin as a topic.

Topsecretk9 on February 6, 2009 at 10:17 PM

so true. They are what they preach against. Palin Zombies.

Ampersand on February 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM

lowandslow:
Why don’t you look at how Palin governs in totality? You are only willing to look at what she did yesterday.

Vince on February 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM

popularpeoplesfront on February 6, 2009 at 11:04 PM

So Frum wrote this blog entry because he really wants to keep Palin in the spotlight so conservatives can rally around her?

Twisted Logic…

An Era of Hate on February 6, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Yawn… more of the same

Palin’s big toe is the bombdiddy
Palin is a goddess incapable of flaws
Palin is overrated
How dare you say that about Palin – I mean media uh Trig!
Allah Pundit is really Arianna Huffington and doesn’t heart Palin, get thread count up, blah

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

is lowandslow still around?

maybe Ramrocks can come in here and take him to school again

joey24007 on February 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Despite the unkind things some people say about Sarah, I still find myself wanting to have sex with her. A lot. And it’s a powerful urge.

Blacksheep on February 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

I suspect her father, husband, and oldest son – any of which could probably snap your neck like a pencil while you were screaming for mercy – would object to that, you frigging sexist douchebag. Die and rot in hell.

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM

lowandslow:
Why don’t you look at how Palin governs in totality? You are only willing to look at what she did yesterday.

Vince on February 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM

What are you talking about? What totality? She’s only been governor for two years and during that time she’s increased the size and cost of Alaska’s government more then anyone else in their history. The only reason she could do that was high price of oil and a tax increase on those that actually produce the oil.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM

LOL +1.

jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM

They were men of responsibility, not men of wrath.

And it is this tradition that many modern conservatives RINO’S reject and repudiate.

Go Away Frum…NO redemption…if that’s what this was…

jerrytbg on February 6, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Proove it lowandslow. Point out the error of my ways. Give me links to those New York Times articles that you take as gospel. If I were to tell you that it’s a pretty safe bet that everyone’s costs, including yours, has gone up would that shock you. It cost me more for milk than it did two years ago.

If an oil company was pumping oil out of your real estate, would you demand a royalty for it? Would you share it with everyone who lived on that real estate?

Vince on February 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM

What are you talking about? What totality? She’s only been governor for two years and during that time she’s increased the size and cost of Alaska’s government more then anyone else in their history. The only reason she could do that was high price of oil and a tax increase on those that actually produce the oil.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM

A little evidence, please?

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM

I know this is a blog and there is quick give and take, and the discussion ranges from the profound to the profance. However, after seeing some of the comments about conservatism, I wanted to suggest, if you’re not familiar with him, reading some Russell Kirk.

He is always a good place to start to discuss conservatism: A Conservatism of Thought and Imagination

In 1953, with the publication of The Conservative Mind, Russell Kirk set out six “canons” that he considered a reasonable summary or outline of the significant themes common among conservative thinkers. In his 1982 introduction to the Portable Conservative Reader, Kirk offered a variation on those canons, and in a chapter in the 1993 Politics of Prudence, his last book, he expanded the canons to ten principles.

If you go to that site the embedded link in the paragraph above is dead. However, here’s a post from Free Republic that grabbed those original six canons: Kirk’s Six Canons of Conservative Thought.

The following two columns are well worth your time:

Here’s an excerpt of an essay by Kirk that states his later ten principles of conservatism:

The Essence of Conservatism

In 1993, he wrote Ten Conservative Principles.

INC on February 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Die and rot in hell.

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM

My, my, such anger on the Tubes these days. Well, Jim, my sexually enlightened friend, I guess it’s a good thing I don’t have to fight her husband, father and oldest son then, isn’t it? I still like Palin as a politician, and I still want to have sex her with her because she’s smoking hot. And I don’t think that’s so bad; it’s certainly not rotting in hell-worthy. So bite me.

Blacksheep on February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM

For Lowanddumb

from the WSJ:

[Palin's plan] ensures the state does well in boom times…when oil prices are high. But it also hedges against low prices in the future by ensuring that oil companies exposed to commodity price swings don’t face a crushing tax burden when commodity prices fall. Her plan includes an escalator clause that gives the state a larger share of revenues when oil prices rise. This is common to production-sharing agreements all over the world.

A much better tax plan that the PPT

joey24007 on February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Slublog on February 6, 2009 at 11:01 PM

heh…the good clubs don’t open until about now anyway, and when a bottle of Heineken costs around 10 bucks, you gotta pre-imbibe a little at home.

acat on February 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Now on that I can agree…we DO need to “drop the labels”. I understand that amongst us conservative Republicans, there are some fundamental differences of opinion on a few things. We need to resolve that, and achieve cohesion as a party (hopefully Steele will guide us properly) before we choose someone like Palin to represent us.

That’s all I’m sayin’.

JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

You sound a lot like that “two sides of the same coin” troll who was prancing through HotAir Gardens last fall.

Hint: Pretending to be an unaffiliated philosopher-prince Cloud Nine toolbag doesn’t work around here. Go pound sand.

fiatboomer on February 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Blacksheep on February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM

As Dick Cheney would say,

“Go $%&* yourself”

joey24007 on February 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Jim62sch “I just love sara”

Vince “I love her more”

Janos ” I love her big toe – mm”

Jim62sch “You can’t love her more than me”

Vince: “Can too”

Janos: “what did you say bout her shoe?”

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Keep charging those windmills, friendo! You’ll replace Noneya yet!

fiatboomer on February 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM

fiatboomer on February 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Hint: Pretending to be the thread bouncer makes you look silly.

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM

fiatboomer on February 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Ooh big man guarding the thread!

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

another lucid, intelligent, reasoned, and incisive post!!!

Thanks, genius! Thanks for shining your Light on us with one brain-fart after another, unburdened with any actual knowledge of anything

If you were smart enough to know how stupid you sound, you
‘d be ashamed……

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM

I still want to have sex her with her because she’s smoking hot. And I don’t think that’s so bad; it’s certainly not rotting in hell-worthy. So bite me.

Blacksheep on February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM

I suspect if you tried to have sex with this particular politician, she’d use her brand-new custom knife to gut you like a caribou – then she’d duct-tape your corpse to some cinder blocks and dump you off the side of her fishing boat somewhere off the Knik Arm. But go on ahead with your misogynist ass.

Jim62sch on February 6, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Janos Hunyadi on February 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Smart enough to make you reply every single time – go troll some shoe stores while you look for the perfect toe.

Bradky on February 6, 2009 at 11:28 PM

eh…AP just likes to watch you guys fall all over yourselves about the Palinator. Can’t say I don’t enjoy it too.
JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM

So HotAir is now the equivalent of a gossip rag, a medium by which its contributors get to see how much of a rise they can get from the regulars?

Awesome business acumen, and just after losing PM too!

Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM

A little evidence, please?
Proove it lowandslow.

Good grief, are you telling me Palin didn’t massively increase the size and cost of government in her two years as governor? I’ve posted the numbers dozens of times on this blog, you just don’t like them.

lowandslow on February 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM

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