Minnesota Recount: Just what we need — more ballots
posted at 9:55 am on February 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Minnesotans might have thought that the close election and the entire recount process would have accounted for all the ballots cast in the election, but apparently a few precincts still have nooks and crannies to search. Anoka County managed to stun the election contest court yesterday by announcing that they had discovered ballots that had never been counted. How many more weeks do counties need to find them all?
Perry Mason, meet Rachel Smith.
Smith, the top elections official in Anoka County, dropped a minor bombshell Thursday in the courtroom where a lawsuit over Minnesota’s U.S. Senate race was being heard. She testified that the county has found — within the prior 24 hours — a dozen or more ballots that were never counted in the statewide recount that ended last month.
While the number is not enough to overcome Democrat Al Franken’s 225-vote lead over former Republican Sen. Norm Coleman, it suggests there might be other uncounted ballots in other counties. Only a handful of elections officials have testified in the recount trial so far. …
The discovery includes:
- Three military ballots for Coleman from a Spring Lake Park precinct that were originally duplicated and misplaced before the recount. They were found in a large envelope containing discarded absentee-ballot return envelopes.
- Six absentee ballots that were found inside their original return envelopes and have never been counted.
- Several other ballots that were rejected for one reason or another, but that the county now says should be reconsidered.
Anoka County officials should be embarrassed, and Anoka County voters enraged. They went to the polls expecting their votes to count, not to get misplaced and forgotten. The small number in Anoka won’t change the election, but it would have disenfranchised the voters through no fault of their own.
Minnesota has to take another look at their absentee process. We have repeatedly heard problems with the duplication procedure, where precinct officials create a duplicate able to be read by the optical-scan counter and mark the original. Unfortunately, some of the originals didn’t get properly marked, leading to repeat counting in some instances that favored Al Franken. That mess has to get unraveled now by the election contest panel. It’s a stupid idea, and it needs to stop. Either count absentee ballots by hand or force voters to use the same optical-scan process as voters do at the poll, but no one should be creating duplicate ballots in the precincts.
Speaking of stuck on stupid, Franken went to the state Supreme Court to demand an election certificate:
Minnesota Supreme Court justices aggressively questioned Al Franken’s lawyer today as he argued that Franken ought to be issued a provisional election certificate and seated in the U.S. Senate while the recount trial continues.
Attorney Marc Elias said Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Secretary of State Mark Ritchie are usurping federal authority by refusing to certify Franken as the winner of the long-running Senate battle, pending the end of the legal contest that Republican Norm Coleman is waging to overturn the Democrat’s 225-vote lead. …
But lawyers for Coleman and the state said that Minnesota law is clear that no election certificate may be issued until the legal contest and any subsequent appeals are over.
The four justices hearing the case this morning at the State Capitol peppered Elias with questions.
Maybe Franken’s lawyers should study actual law. No one has won the election yet; the election contest is part of the election process, not some ad hoc aberration. The Constitution gives the state the right to determine its representatives. The allocation of two Senators and variable numbers of House members does not constitute a requirement to produce them immediately if the process is ongoing. Those who attended the session felt that the judges were pungently skeptical of Elias’ arguments, and for good reason.
Why did Franken wait until now to make that argument, anyway? It’s been a month since the end of the recount. Team Franken understands how the recent decision on absentee ballots hurts their standing, and wanted to grab the seat now rather than wait for the 4800 absentee ballots to be counted.










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Is it over yet?
Speedwagon82 on February 6, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Democrats had better be careful what they wish for. Do they really want another TAX CHEAT in their ranks now?
rockmom on February 6, 2009 at 10:00 AM
What the he** is wrong with these election officials? This is such an embarrassment to this state.
becki51758 on February 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Reelection.
the_nile on February 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Sure, the more the merrier. They cover for each other, and take OUR taxes!
Steve Z on February 6, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Is it any wonder why we don’t trust government?
How could something as simple as COUNTING VOTES get so massively screwed up that it spends months and months draining more taxpayer money and clogging the legal system with horse manure? This is the same institution that can’t even switch a television signal from analog to digital with five years notice and billions of dollars without a major crisis.
Hey – I’ve got it! Let’s put this institution of government and the criminals that run it – the most effective and efficient vehicle ever conceived by God or man – in charge of EVERYONE’S health care, education, retirement, income and, well, everything else!
Who’s with me?
Good Lt on February 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM
All this dumb early voting and absentee voting for convenience is really messing things up.
WashJeff on February 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Who does Franken have to pay to get this stupid seat?!!
4shoes on February 6, 2009 at 10:05 AM
I think I’ll head over to the South Dakota border and see what’s happening on the other side.
Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM
No state income tax. Right-to-work laws. Voter ID law.
Wethal on February 6, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Why did Franken argue it now?
To get into the senate and cast the winning vote for the stimulus bill.
Really.
Skywise on February 6, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Government Officials in Minnesota:
“Hey looka here, someone lost six ballots behind the refrigerator”
Government Officials in Washington DC:
“Hey looka here, someone lost six bilion dollars behind the refrigerator”
Idiocracy.
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AMEN
Mr. Joe on February 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM
If Minnesota needs a governor, I think that Blago is available.
Johan Klaus on February 6, 2009 at 10:14 AM
As they say in programming, “It’s a feature, not a bug…”
eeyore on February 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Right now the ONLY way to solve this is to convene the State Assembly, and demand that a new “Special Election” be held in 30 days.
(If these “new” ballots were just now suddenly found…what was the chain of custody for them? And in the same vein, what the heck is the established chain of custody for any and all ballots in that state? Seems like we’ll be finding “new” ballots from now till the cows come home otherwise. Hell, the Iraqis have a better voting system than the state of Minnesota. apparently.)
coldwarrior on February 6, 2009 at 10:16 AM
There should be at least one election official in Anoka County who is unemployed this morning.
The whole electoral process relies on the idea that officials are careful and count every vote. We learned from Florida 2000 that’s more a concept than a reality but to find uncounted votes months after an election where there is so few votes different is just criminal.
highhopes on February 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM
This is like one of nights where you keep waking up and it’s still 3:30am, and the night seems to never end.
But, don’t let our impatience impede justice!
funsutton on February 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM
The lizard people have made it known that they can be bought.
highhopes on February 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Just keep ridiculing Minnesota, keep insulting us and our election process, go ahead.
When Lizard Man is elected and starts appointing Lizard People to positions of power, they will start spreading, first across the borders and then across the nation.
You are all going to pay, we’s gots Lizard Man on our side!
Bishop on February 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Well…they make good boots I’m told. It takes a bunch of them but boy howdy they look purdy.
Limerick on February 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM
But that makes too much sense!
Aronne on February 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM
I wonder how exclusive this phenomenon is to Minnesota. It seems that whenever we take a really close look at our election system incompetence/corruption turns up in astonishing amounts. I used to berate my far left friends who won’t vote because they don’t think their votes count, maybe they have a point. I don’t suppose we can force every state to do a mandatory recount…why do we have to know election results that night?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 6, 2009 at 10:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_yDWQsrajA
MDWNJ on February 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Soros!
grapeknutz on February 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Jeebus, more ballots are suddenly “found”? How the heck do people lose ballots?
And where are our unicorns? Making up more ballots in some sweatshop?
rbj on February 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Coleman should man up and go home.
getalife on February 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Thank G*d for Minnesota!
– The State of Florida
I R A Darth Aggie on February 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Why dont those stupid F**ks in Minnesota just have a runoff and end all this idiocy? What a State, stuck on really stupid.
saiga on February 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
I totally agree. I can only pray that either way Franken does not become a United States Senator. We have too many clowns in there already.
SC.Charlie on February 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM
There’s more going on here than you might know.
Just as President Bush became an object of hate in 2000 for ending the Clinton/Gore funfest, Coleman won election due to the death of Paul Wellstone…after recently leaving the Democrat/Farm/Labor Party. So many Dem faithful see Coleman as a turncoat and as profiting from the death of one of their most beloved Senators.
Nothing else could have driven so many Dems to lose their minds and vote for a joke.
Doug on February 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM
He knows he is going to loose the recount.
Send Frankenstine back to Transilvania
Rick007 on February 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Hope/Change. Hope we can change the laws so we do not have to rely on the little people to keep us in power.
Rick007 on February 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Coleman should man up and go home.
getalife on February 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
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Thats right. Frankin is not a man so he can’t do it.
Rick007 on February 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM
This is pathetic. Anything less than a re-vote will not be viewed as legitimate.
Vashta.Nerada on February 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM
HMMMM Election fraud by Dem’s?? can you say Florida or Washinton??
Ring any bells??
Rick007 on February 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM
If it wasn’t so bad you might have to laugh.
Two weeks with the Damn o craps in power in the House.Senate and presidency and what have we got ? Compete TURMOIL.
Rick007 on February 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Why don’t the Democrats call for a re vote? I mean if they are bent on claiming this Senate seat, they should feel confident that Franken would win in a run off of the two…oh that’s right all the people who showed up to vote for Obama and by the way Franken in November, might not turn out again just to vote for Franken…..Yeah Stuart Smalley it’s time for your daily affirmations.
Dr Evil on February 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Re vote? Re Vote? Are you crazy? The people from Florida.NY.NJ. and the rest of the blue states can’t get the time off again to vote in Minn.
ACORN is still hiding under the rocks.
Rick007 on February 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Could it be that our elected officials are probably just as partisan if not moreso than those who voted them into office?
Lawrence on February 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Ed-
This is past embarrassing…I live in Anoka County and I agree with coldwarrior that we need a special election or something. Do you know if there are Minnesota laws that would make that possible or is this so called “recount” crap our only option?
mnmom on February 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM
So how does one “man up” by surrendering?
Anoka County delivered Jesse Ventura, so it doesn’t surprise me that they don’t have their act together. And it also wouldn’t surprise me if the uncounted votes from there would primarily go to Dean Barkley.
Mr. D on February 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Oh, another tax cheat? He should be considered for the “O” Teams cabinet instead….
DL13 on February 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM
If you take off the suspicious 133 double countings and about sixty that mysteriously appeared in the back of a car after the election, then you are down to about thirty five votes in favor of Frankenfurter. Than reduce that by these twenty one approximate votes for Coleman and Al’s lead is only about nine votes, with 4,500 outstanding ballots to count. This is winnable, but it also points out that in Florida, this is what could have happened to Bush Gore 2000.
Frightening to say the least.
eaglewingz08 on February 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM
The Cardinal is back & Sid Rosenberg will be back Monday Norm Coleman’s cousin but he isn’t speaking to Sid last update.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/02/bow-your-heads-you-heathens-cardnial.html
Dr Evil on February 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Maybe Franken’s lawyers should study actual law.
Ed, why should they do that, they are above the law remember, they’re Democrats!
flytier on February 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM
So Franken would rather be selected than elected?
catmman on February 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
burt on February 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Like i said no matter what
the system needs to be accurate..
So
again
How many voters total?
How man Legal voters total (just minus all of the illegals)
How many voted for coleman
How man voted for frankenstien
Let the chips fall where they may!
jcila on February 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Well, MN, it seems elections are beyond you. Perhaps drawing straws, or perhaps pistols at 20 paces? …I’m leaning in favor of the pistols.
KarlE on February 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Well, MN, it seems elections are beyond you. Perhaps drawing straws, or pistols at 20 paces? …I’m leaning in favor of the pistols.
KarlE on February 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Am I missing something? I thought Charles Johnson lived near Los Angeles.
BillH on February 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I’m in favor of the pistols myself… would give everyone a reason to own/shoot weapons.
Chaz706 on February 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Isn’t incompetence of this magnatude actionable? The mishandling of cast votes must be illegal!
DannoJyd on February 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM
What you really meant to say.
AZfederalist on February 7, 2009 at 12:23 AM
This will never end
Actually, had not the SCOTUS stepped in, we’d probably still be counting Florida ballots, today, from 2000, in hopes of getting just ONE that favored Gore
ToddonCapeCod on February 7, 2009 at 2:09 AM