McCain rips the stimulus: It’s not “bipartisan” if only two or three Republicans vote for it

posted at 4:53 pm on February 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

Ace wonders whether Maverick will resort to his mavericky ways when the bill finally comes to the floor. Watch this 10-minute stemwinder from this morning and let your mind be eased. As I write, we’re down to Specter, Snowe, and maybe Collins in the “yes” camp; presumably all Democrats are on board lest The One be humiliated by a failed cloture vote due to defections from his own party.

He’s holding townhalls on Monday and Tuesday and his first evening press conference on Monday night. Why Reid doesn’t push the vote until, say, Wednesday and let the momentum from that media whirlwind send wavering Republicans toppling into the Democrats’ camp, I simply don’t know. Exit quotation: “These cuts are very damaging — [the House bill] was put together very carefully.”

Update: A belated exit question. If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?


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no vote tonight

ousoonerfan15 on February 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM

I saw this bogus “rip”. I rather watch reruns of election night just for the suspense.

kanda on February 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM

This is why McCain cannot be counted on. You never know where he stands. Just when you think he has become a conservative, In the next breath he preaches the virtues of bi-partisanship.

technopeasant on February 6, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Fox News Alert: The waterpark has been cut from the bill.

amerpundit on February 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Ughh…why can’t Snow and Collins stand with their own party?
I never liked Specter either.
If this bill goes down in flames it will force the Democrats to include the Republicans in fyture bills in a meaningful way.
Also it would knock Obama down a few pegs and there’s no downside to that.

NeoKong on February 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Give McCain kudos when you can.

As for Pelosi. She is nuts. These statements are laughable in light of the reality of the bill.

“We must have a bill [quickly],” she said, in a clear message to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who has spent the past two days wrangling with moderates who want to cut proposed education funding for the states by as much as $50 billion.

“These cuts are very damaging — [the House bill] was put together very carefully. … The funding goes directly to school districts, they are stimulative because they maintain jobs instead of cutting jobs.”

INC on February 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Fox News Alert: The waterpark has been cut from the bill.

amerpundit on February 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Do I still get my rubbers?

Chuck Schick on February 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Yeah, McCain is not the one to put out there as some kind of stalwart.

It’s bad that you have to actually wait for his vote to see which way he’ll go…

catmman on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Can’t somebody from the GOP camp filibuster it?

promachus on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Remind me again why “bipartisanship” is supposed to be a good thing? The only thing Republicans and Democrats agree on is taking away our money and freedom. Screw bipartisanship.

Enrique on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Just need three if not the gop own it.

Political suicide.

getalife on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

THIS IS ABOUT RAMMING THROUGH FOUR YEARS WORTH OF SOCIALISM IN ONE FEAR MONGERED BLOAT FEST.

seejanemom on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Surprised it’s not you, you old hag.

HornetSting on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Exit quotation: These cuts are very damaging — [the House bill] was put together very carefully…

… very carefully designed to raid the treasury and purchase the next two federal elections with public monies…

elgeneralisimo on February 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

The Republicans need to leave that stinking poo pile on the floor of the Senate…DEMOCRATS need to EMBRACE what they think is soOOooo FAAAABULOUS.

seejanemom on February 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

If McCain says something’s not bi-partisan, it’s not bi-partisan. Now we just need the weekend to peel the last of the Republican Senators away.

BadgerHawk on February 6, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Waiting for Wise in 3…2…1…

HornetSting on February 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM

If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?

Exit answers to all your questions: Obama was criticized for his lack of executive experience. Isn’t that now showing through?

ballz2wallz on February 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM

We’ll see. McCain has been known not to vote for wasteful spending, but he voted for the first bailout and he voted that McConnell- Ensign proposal which was insane. Maybe the vote will be pushed for next week so he can muster up the RINO votes.

jencab on February 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM

I know there are some legal eagles on HA… What legal recourses are there to fight this bill if passed and signed into law?

If some loser in SF can bring ‘in god we trust’ to a halt across this great nation, surely some conservative, caring, and reason minded individuals can make obama substantiate the legality of this bill

gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM

“The American people are figuring it out….”

………. we shall see.

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM

I heard they’re rushing to get a vote in by Monday so they can all go on break… is this true?

As for the Maverick, not his most mavericky for sure, but he’d still be a heck of a lot better at the helm than Barry–who bemoaned today how everyone thinks they’re an economist (that would have to include him, who knows nothing of economics as far as I can tell).

I do like McCain’s idea to scrap the bill and start over; as IF Pelosi would ever let that happen, blithering idiot she is.

redfoxbluestate on February 6, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Update: A belated exit question. If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?

Exit answer: The One thought he could shove this turd down our throats on game alone. When that failed, “I won”. Now the townhalls, and full-press permacampaign two weeks into his term.

Kid from Brooklyn on February 6, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Big deal, they cut the water park. Chula Vista is still getting its %500,000 DOG PARK.

GarandFan on February 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Obama has used up any “honeymoon” clout he might have had. He’s a deeply partisan, naive ideologue. We’re in for a long 4 year under Obama…thankfully, the guys with an R after their names are doing the right thing so far.

dugan on February 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM

I heard they’re rushing to get a vote in by Monday so they can all go on break… is this true?

yup… pathetic isn’t it? These yahoos work for about 120+ days

gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Remind me again why “bipartisanship” is supposed to be a good thing?

Enrique on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

The Democrats don’t want to be on the hook for this. “Bipartisanship” means “Republicans tacked on to provide cover”.

ddrintn on February 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Update: A belated exit question. If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?

Didn’t get the focus group/finger in the wind results in time.

Brat on February 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Yeah, McCain is not the one to put out there as some kind of stalwart.

It’s bad that you have to actually wait for his vote to see which way he’ll go…

catmman on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

McCain has made his position pretty damned clear on this bill.

DaveS on February 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Did he do a couple of lines of coke before this speech?…use hand sanitizer after shaking his hands!

joepub on February 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Why Reid doesn’t push the vote until, say, Wednesday and let the momentum from that media whirlwind send wavering Republicans toppling into the Democrats’ camp, I simply don’t know.

Because The One wants to sign it in a pompous ceremony on President’s Day, not any other day. He wants to usurp Lincoln’s birthday to mark it in history as the day:

Obama’s version: “I saved the economy on Feb 16, 2009”

Actually what history will say: “The day Obama signed the worst piece of legislation ever into law.”

PastorJon on February 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Guess all that pork got to McCain.

Done That on February 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM

McCain has made his position pretty damned clear on this bill.

DaveS on February 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

And he voted for the $700 billion crap bomb last October…too late. Nobody trusts him anymore.

HornetSting on February 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Update: A belated exit question…

For one, it would have been unrealistic to do appearances before the House had even passed the first bill. Now, why he didn’t start immediately after that (say, this past weekend), most likely he thought he had the Senate votes. All he needed was three or four, who knew so many GOP would have principles.

LastRick on February 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Is it OT to note that Byron York on The Corner indicates that J. Gregg has indicated he will recuse himself from any vote on the stimulus? Seems that his personal ambition (Cabinet post) are more important than the interests of the voters who elected him. If non-partisan means without regard to party, does non-cajones mean without regard to integrity?

BadDogMN on February 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

If the Republicans had any sense, they would stall this forever. By that time the economy may show some signs of life. Employment numbers are a lagging indicator. Heck, we’ve been in a recession since last year, actually.

This is all about grabbing money from taxpayers and raping them. Pelosi knows what she’s doing. She’s just been waiting for the right time….after Nov. 4th.

So, please, Republicans, stall this piece of shit. Let’s just watch to see who cracks first, Pelosi or Bambi! My money is on Bambi.

Cody1991 on February 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Update: A belated exit question. If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?

Because after all the sycophantic worship he’s received for the last 2 years despite having no meaningful accomplishments, it never occurred to him that he would need to. He thought that merely asking for something was sufficient to getting it.

thirteen28 on February 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

the bill is theft, dems know it and are rushing for a reason.

rob verdi on February 6, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Because after all the sycophantic worship he’s received for the last 2 20 years despite having no meaningful accomplishments, it never occurred to him that he would need to. He thought that merely asking for something was sufficient to getting it.

thirteen28 on February 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Bingo! Now he actually has to work for something. He tried banging his baby rattle on the teleprompter yesterday, but it didn’t work.

I’m really going to enjoy watching this guy try to work.

Cody1991 on February 6, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Update: A belated exit question. If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?

I think he already exerted maximum pressure on Specter. Obama knows he has this in the bag.

As for the town halls and the press conference: they are just venues wherein he parades his laurels, and wherein he gets to continue his presidential campaign.

misslizzi on February 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Kill the whole damn bill–if we are going to have an economic collapse, let it be without 32 new government agencies.

PattyJ on February 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM

If some loser in SF can bring ‘in god we trust’ to a halt across this great nation

I am sad to have top tell you that Michael Newdow lives in the Sacramento area, not SF. The blithering idiot. How would you like to go to an ER only to learn he was your attending?

sondiehl on February 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Can’t somebody from the GOP camp filibuster it?

promachus on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

That’s what “cloture” means. If you can get 60 votes, you can prevent a filibuster. That’s why it was very important for the Dems to get to 60 with Al Franken, etc. It is also why the Republicans could not pass a lot of their agenda during the Bush years because they did not have 60.

Kafir on February 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Just need three if not the gop own it.

Political suicide.

getalife on February 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Really? Even this rotting corpse is plummeting in popularity?

It’s less popular than the Iraq War last I checked.

Chuck Schick on February 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I don’t begrudge our representatives and senators their vacations, the more they are out of Washington the safer the US public is. There are few more frightening words than “Congress is in session”.

eaglewingz08 on February 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM

“It’s not “bipartisan” if only two or three Republicans vote for it,” and none of them are me, McCain.

burt on February 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Even if this gets way watered down in the Senate it could be brought back to life when it goes to conference.

Just Say No!

DannoJyd on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Son of a biscuit!

I have to actually applaud John McCain for something?

I give him props for doing the right thing instead of his usual instinctive screw the Republican party move. Did someone spike his Metamucil or something?

SimplyKimberly on February 6, 2009 at 6:34 PM

gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:06PM

You’re boned on two grounds.

(1) You would never get past the threshold question of standing. There’s a long line of court decisions dating back into the foggy mists of time holding that an individual taxpayer’s interest in a federal spending bill is de minimis, such that he suffers no concrete and particularized injury by its passage on that basis alone. And if you’ve suffered no injury, then you have no basis to sue. You’d have to point to some other, independent way in which the bill violates one of your legally-protected interests in order to challenge it.

(2) Even assuming you could get past the standing issue, the Taxing and Spending Clause in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress pretty much carte blanche to, well, tax and spend.

Centerfire on February 6, 2009 at 6:38 PM

If time is of the essence, why didn’t Obama do the townhalls and presser this week to exert maximum pressure on Specter et al.?

Because all his people were still following blindly, last I heard.

Had to be a shock to turn around and see, like, five or six glassy-eyed souls…Specters, if you will.

tree hugging sister on February 6, 2009 at 6:44 PM

I am sorry but if any republicans vote yes
for this piece of GARBAGE payoff condom bill..

The republicans are Finished for the next 20 years..

No one will trust anything they say..
Why should we when you voted
AGAINST our EXPRESSED WILL
and JOINED in with the Communists running our own government

to pay for
free health care for illegals
condoms
birth control
abortions
green house gas storage (just shove a muffler up franks ass) that would stop a few thousand tons.

this is WRONG

I will NOT sit here and watch as our own government
SELLS my children out to their special queer interest..

No

jcila on February 6, 2009 at 7:15 PM

I don’t begrudge our representatives and senators their vacations, the more they are out of Washington the safer the US public is. There are few more frightening words than “Congress is in session”.

eaglewingz08 on February 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Exactly! The less ‘governing’ these folks do, the better.

Red State State of Mind on February 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Contact these fools……I’m telling the Maine Senators we’re starting a Boycott Maine campaign.

They are all a DISGRACE.

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Arlen Sphincter should be strung up by his onions, but he has none.

Let’s roll.

ex-Democrat on February 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM

No it isn’t a bi partisan bill except in LA LA Congress Land, they will probably find a way to worded it that way.

Obama is going to have to count on the blue dogs and moderate Democrats and the Republicans, to save him from the Progressives, It is stunning.

“These cuts are very damaging — [the House bill] was put together very carefully.”

If by carefully, they mean packed with useless crap that waste taxpayers money. I think I am learning that second language Obama told us we all need to learn in this case – Political Speak.

Dr Evil on February 6, 2009 at 8:01 PM

McCain voted for the 700 billion TARP bill because President George W Bush told him it was essential to stop a global financial meltdown.

McCain trusted Bush. But that means none of you can trust McCain?

pathetic….John McCain isn’t the devil that you all still believe that he is…

funky chicken on February 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM

McCain: It’s not “bipartisan” if only two or three Republicans vote for it…

…unless it’s been Maverick™ Approved!

TMK on February 6, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Speech could have been delivered much better, but credit where it’s due.

Every now and then, Mac gets it right.

Hawkins1701 on February 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Remember this is FAR from a done deal, once this passes the House and Senate have to fight it out, and the House is pissy that some of their crap is being cut, so that will take a while. Then we get the chance to deny cloture again, it gives us a little more time to work on Spector et. al. However, just for the pure Mr. Smith entertainment value I would LOVE to see McConnell call for a REAL filibuster, not these chicken little cloture/no cloture deals they have done in recent years.

Govgirl on February 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Obama to request Pink Floyd PIG zeppelin to fly over Capitol for vote.

profitsbeard on February 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM

McCain trusted Bush.

Oh, horsesh*t. McCain did it to pander for votes, pure and simple.

Fletch54 on February 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Credit where credit is due:

Great job McCain!

Thresher on February 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Not a big fan of McCain (voted against Obama rather than for McCain) – but this is great and I commend him for it.

sloopy on February 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM

I wonder what would have happened if he had been this mavericky during the campaign…

Oh well, best to get this socialism out of our system by going the whole nine yards with Barry.

PattyJ on February 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Too little, too late, Juan. You should have done this when you rode into DC on your white horse to handle the first “Throw billions down the rat hole” bill.

I don’t even care that much that you lost. You would have been a lousy president, too except, the republicans would get the blame for the s#!tstorm that is coming.

darwin-t on February 6, 2009 at 11:58 PM

The HA old timers know my long held antipathy for McCain. But when I heard a replay of his rant today, I cheered.

Too bad he isn’t always less rarely like this.

Lindsey hasn’t totally sucked on this bill either.

But there is always tomorrow or the next day for the old dogs to forget their new tricks.

LegendHasIt on February 7, 2009 at 2:59 AM

Is it OT to note that Byron York on The Corner indicates that J. Gregg has indicated he will recuse himself from any vote on the stimulus? Seems that his personal ambition (Cabinet post) are more important than the interests of the voters who elected him. If non-partisan means without regard to party, does non-cajones mean without regard to integrity?
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BadDogMN on February 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

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Gregg is actually a very smart man. By “recusing” himself, he avoids offending his new boss a few days before he starts the job without really affecting the outcome at all.
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It takes 60 votes to end debate in the Senate. Not 3/5 of those present or voting. Gregg doesn’t have to vote “no” on cloture – neither does any other Republican. They can ALL abstain if they like, because cloture fails on a 59-0 vote just as it does on a 59-41 vote.
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It’s true the move prevents Gregg from voting “no” on the final measure, but if the Democrats can cobble together 60 votes for cloture, passage is assured and “no” votes are once again merely symbolic.
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Adjoran on February 7, 2009 at 3:32 AM

If, God forbid, this bill passes, there will be a spike in the inflation rate. I said here that I’ve already got a nickname of sorts for the “hidden tax increase” of high inflation:

It’s the “hidden tax for Democrats passing their wishlist of irresponsible spending and questionable priorities.”

LFRGary on February 7, 2009 at 3:36 AM

What’s the point of a $500B counter-proposal? All the Reps have managed to do with this 1/2 stimulus plan is legitimize this Keynesian insanity. What’s the point of a republican party if they just act as shoddy-breaks to the socialist freight-train? The counter-proposal should be to slash the corporate-tax and freeze spending on the next fiscal budget. If the Reps can’t fight back but only slow them down all while undermining themselves by accepting the left’s premises, there’s no point in trying because we already know how it’s going to end.

ebrawer on February 7, 2009 at 4:32 AM

No, it’s not bipartisan when only 2-3 Republicans vote for it. Not by any stretch. Let’s hammer that point home.

GOP needs to distance itself as far as possible from this Trojan Horse (and from those of its own who support it), as it’s a sell-out of our economic heritage and a train wreck in the making.

Meanwhile, I’m faxing GOP-PA to see who will be running against Specter in the upcoming primaries, and telling them if Specter is nominated again, I’ll be voting Democrat, even if it means voting for Chris Matthews.

petefrt on February 7, 2009 at 8:15 AM

How many days is he supposed to live? I thought he was too old to do politics any more hence he wasn’t to get anyones vote. Seems like he doing fine to me.

I do hope his comments aren’t an indication this thing is gonna fly.

johnnyU on February 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Who is this tired angry old man? He look familiar.

Dave Rywall on February 7, 2009 at 10:25 AM