Breaking: Senate centrists reach deal on stimulus? Video: 30% chance we’ll get it wrong, says Biden; Update: Spending cuts to be reinstated? Update: Kennedy flying in for vote
posted at 5:46 pm on February 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
A group of Senate moderates working on an amendment to cut up to $100 billion in spending from the economic stimulus package have completed a tentative proposal that will be presented to Senate Democrats at a 5:30 p.m. caucus meeting, Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad told reporters. “There is a proposal that is sufficiently fleshed out and we will have a caucus and discuss it,” Conrad said after emerging from talks in Senate Majority Leader Reid’s office. Democrats hope the proposal, developed by Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Ben Nelson, R-Neb. [SIC], will attract several GOP supporters and be acceptable to all Democrats, which would allow for passage of the plan as early as tonight.
Prediction time: How many Republicans vote yes?
Update: AP says the final price tag would be $780 billion.
Update: Cowards:
Reid suggested to reporters that he had two GOP backers for the bill but needed at least one more because neither wants to be the crucial 60th vote if all 58 members of the Democratic caucus support Obama.
Mel Martinez is also in the mix with Collins, Snowe, and Specter, but he’s unlikely.
Update: Under other circumstances this would get its own post but it’s essential context for this thread. It’s the Sex Panther stimulus!
Update: So narrow is the margin here that Democrats expect Teddy will have to be roused from his sickbed to cast the 60th vote for cloture. He’s in Florida right now, so if that’s true, the roll won’t come tonight.
Update: What a scam. Carl Levin says that the money being yanked out now to get the bill through the Senate might very well be reinserted during the conference committee with the House.
Update: CNN says the vote is expected tonight, and Teddy’s expected to be there.
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I’m here in Oregon.
I really don’t believe anyone is getting a tax cut in this deal. Our country would not be able to run properly with only 30% or 40% paying taxes. If that happened, elections would be the least of our worries.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:01 AM
I apologized, if you didn’t accept it, oh well.
True_King on February 7, 2009 at 12:03 AM
from the movie 1176:
Soooo, anyone offended by this east coaster’s assessment of a speedy death to Sen. Chappaquiddick – keep that quote in mind! There will have to be a “Boston Tea Party 21st Century Style” and it isn’t going to be pretty.
Defending freedom is why; the 2nd Amendment is so necessary! “Well-Regulated Militia” – were the founding fathers not ahead of their time or what?
As for the heel to Dodd’s slice of bread in a *waitress sandwich* : he has WAAAAAAy worn out his welcome on this planet.
No one lives for ever – oh yeah except for some freak in a tv series or movies….
Branch Rickey on February 7, 2009 at 12:04 AM
The Democrats are right, though, folks. They won. This is what happens when a mush-brained lefty arriviste takes over. There are consequences. We have only ourselves to blame.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:04 AM
I can’t believe this crap.
I have to get the heck out of here and turn off C-SPAN. I haven’t been able to focus on what I’m supposed to write, I’m that angry.
Until tomorrow.
Ryan Gandy on February 7, 2009 at 12:04 AM
“Running properly” isn’t what’s important to the left. “Fairness” is.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:06 AM
AUINSC
Where’s flight sim Chuckie?
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Sen. Tom Coburn is threatening to read the bill on the floor of the Senate. I have a better idea: Read it on “Saturday Night Live.”
- W.C. Varones
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 12:07 AM
How about Bill Russell?
muggedbyreality on February 7, 2009 at 12:08 AM
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 12:07 AM
He shouldn’t treaten, thats for dead men….just do it Tom.
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Rightwinged… lol Too much stimulation, not enough actual intelligence involved. Bend over and kiss your “fanny” goodbye. I can’t wait until the great nanny government comes to wipe my rear. I hope they use Charmin. Maybe they can plan my weekly meals and drive my kids to school. That way, I can just sit on my ass and wait for my check like everyone else. Oh to sleep in every day!!!!!
Gulfcoastconservative on February 7, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Our country would not be able to run properly with only 30% or 40% paying taxes.
Not in its present form.
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:11 AM
I don’t know, worth researching.
Keep this in mind, by the time of the next census, we will already have amnesty, that means that they will count all the new immigrants, that changes everything, they will be bribed with Obama’s handouts, La Raza and LULAC will demonized Republicans, they WILL eventually vote Democrat. That’s why I have always found it so odd that Republicans would rather choose amnesty instead of the rule of law. Mexicans, in the end, will vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, the Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. White America, take if from this Mexican, you are in a crapload of trouble.
True_King on February 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM
SRSLY. 850 bajillion and Congress can’t even buy me a new Nissan GT-R?/////
fiatboomer on February 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Taxes is the key, we have our hands on the throttle.
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:13 AM
We’re already fairly close to that ratio once you factor out all the math. High income earners and corporations shoulder the overwhelming majority of the tax burden, in other words, the top 1%. The majority of people that Obama has proposed “tax cuts” for already do not pay income tax. That leaves the middle class, who will either fall in with the lower income earners under Obama’s proposed plans and pay little to no taxes or will get taxed into bankruptcy, which is more likely considering that we are about to accumulate an additional $3 trillion in debt within the first 60 days of the Age of Obama.
Then you have 2 of our largest manufactures, GM and Chrysler, who are using their TARP dollars to move their operations out of the country. US corporations already pay the highest tax rates on the globe and he proposed to raise them further. The corporations with enough resources to survive will be stupid not to move overseas.
Damiano on February 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM
To liberals, a dependent population with themselves in perpetual control is “running properly”.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM
So… if the worst happens and the Dems have an overwhelming majority, does their party split? Do they turn upon themselves? Or do they just sit back far dumb and happy in their Politburo and laugh at us plebes?
fiatboomer on February 7, 2009 at 12:15 AM
This is true. One of the most classless performances I’ve seen from a President. If you disagree with him you are engaging in “petty politics” or the same “failed ideas of the past”. His cracks about having the debt handed to him with a big bow on it was the worst. Especially since he will be handing the next President a debt that makes the one he inherited look like a shopping spree at the Gap.
The funny thing is that all we heard about Obama was how he has a great temperament. Well, he hits his first hurdle as President and that great temperament shows itself in sarcasm and shrill, partisan finger-pointing. He runs to the left as fast as he can to the bosom of Pelosi and Reid.
Amazingly though, watch how many Op-Eds this weekend praise Obama for going on the offensive and showing amazing leadership to get this bill passed when it looked like it was stalled. As if peeling away 2 or, at the most, 3 liberal Republicans was some great show of leadership and bipartisanship. They will ignore the classless rantings and fearmongering of last night to the House Democrats. Watch how many media outlets will now refer to this as a bipartisan stimulus bill. Disgusting.
JohnInCA on February 7, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Yes it is a mighty big task. Have we completely lost the will to fight these battles? You do more than hold them to disaster, you make sure they understand it never happens again. Even it if means voting out the lot of them.
You analogy is better than mine of course. But Germany did come back even from it’s horrible past.
@Damiano
I wouldn’t call what I have as faith in our system. More like faith in history. I know where you are coming from and I would probably feel the same way if I didn’t think we stood a chance to overcome this.
I just don’t think that Obama or his henchmen can ruin this country to the point of no return, no more than I believe farting cows can destroy the ozone layer.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Taxes is the key, we have our hands on the throttle.
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:13 AM
And your choice will be to either stop driving or keep driving but refuse to pay the tolls.
If you stop driving, the guvment REALLY pushes the envelope and we start loping towards communism.
If you refuse the pay the tolls, the guvment arrests you and impounds your car.
Either way, it’s messy.
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM
fiatboomer, I believe if you truly need that car, just submit it to your ccongressman/senators at this point. The sky is quite obviously the limit.
Gulfcoastconservative on February 7, 2009 at 12:18 AM
True, they won, but remember ACORN and remember the foreign credit card donations to Obama that number in the millions. Obama’s campaign shut off the security measures for online credit card payments so that anyone in the world could get a temporary credit card and make a donation with fake names. It worked.
Also remember the mainstream medias favorable coverage. Yeah, we lost but the decked was stacked against Republicans in the worst way.
True_King on February 7, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Yeah, that was our very own egghead, George Will. “First-class temperament” or something to that effect.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:19 AM
I also remember reading about a lot of Republicans who stayed home on election day.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:22 AM
fiatboomer on February 7, 2009 at 12:15 AM
The vast majority of “traditional” Dems will find themselves in the same boat as us. What is so disappointing is the mandated lock step, rank and file, boot liking so called Bluedogs are just that, dogs sniffing and then eating Obama’s and Pelosi’s turds!
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:22 AM
I may be up here in VT, but please, someone let me know when/where the revolution begins
RightWinged on February 7, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Arlen Specter is special.
Johan Klaus on February 7, 2009 at 12:22 AM
It won’t split, they might have some defections if Blue Dog Dems have any honor, but the party won’t split. The split will come from the Individualists/Libertarians/Conservatives when they leave the cowardly Republican party. Remember, it’s the Republicans that started this when they were in power. Their corruption opened the door for the socialist take over.
True_King on February 7, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Even it if means voting out the lot of them.
Who will vote them out?
You, me and the rest of the 49% who are still working and paying taxes?
Or the 51% who just decided that having you, me and the rest of the 49% who are still working and paying taxes pay for all of their stuff too?
This bill’s only goal is to create a dependency demographic to keep people like us from ever again regaining the ability to vote the takers from office.
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I for one am not worried because I have lots of Monopoly money which I believe will have much more value than an actual dollar once our congress is finished…..
Gulfcoastconservative on February 7, 2009 at 12:25 AM
You can blame both those who stayed home and the establishment Republicans attempting to take the party back to its Rockefeller roots by coalescing around McCain.
True_King on February 7, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Then the only answer is a massive tax revolt.
And curse the f*cking bastards, every single one of them.
ErinF on February 7, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM
If its going to be messy, I reserve the right to $hit my own pants as a result of my actions and not as a response to mandates dictated to me by worthless race baiting whores.
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:28 AM
If we became that dependent on government. This would no longer be a country, more like a small African village. And we have never, nor will we ever, vote to become slaves.
GM and Chrysler should have been allowed to go bankrupt. Let’s see how long they can survive overseas before they need another bailout. I think the corporations, like anyone else understands the need to survive. And that if worse came to worse, there would be a full citizen tax revolt.
You know it happened before and it can happen again.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Well, there was coalescing around McCain, coalescing against Obama. I held my nose on the “lesser of two evils” idea.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM
I agree, but the demise of the Republican Party will necessarily have to coincide with the defection of the (few) non-socialist Democrats to a third party that will oppose the collectivism of the Dems. Unfortunately, I see what remains of the conservative movement confined to a small third party that would have to form a European-style coalition with the “moderate” party to get anything done.
Certainly a scenario Frum and Allah would like, but it makes me want to puke.
fiatboomer on February 7, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:24 AM
49% Boston Tea Party sounds good to me. If it had to come to that. I just don’t think we are there yet.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Nationalization. It is happening.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Going back to what I said on election night:
Farewell America, I hardly knew ye’
RightWinged on February 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM
When was the last 1K comments?
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:36 AM
True_King on February 7, 2009 at 12:25 AM
We got stuck with McCain because of Democrats and indies being allowed to vote in our primaries. It had nothing to do with establishment Republicans. I only know one Republican that voted for McCain in the primaries.
goat on February 7, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Only when we allow it. I’m not going to just sit on my hands and watch us turn this country over to them. I don’t think any of us will. And that is why I believe they will not win.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:41 AM
49% Boston Tea Party sounds good to me. If it had to come to that. I just don’t think we are there yet.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Well then I suppose we better hope that if it does come to that, we all have the seeds to do it; the inevitable racial component will at least make things a bit more lively than the first Tea Party.
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:43 AM
This Isn’t over by a long shot!
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM
When was the last 1K comments?
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Recently. Intelligent design versus evolution.
Now that Pajamas Media is gone, look for more of the same (along with thrice daily Palin threads).
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Hmmmm…. can we still dress up like Indians?
Or would that be RAAAACCCCIIISSSTTTTT!
Romeo13 on February 7, 2009 at 12:46 AM
I think when it comes right down to it, we still have that streak of independence in us. It just takes a lot to bring it to the surface.
Instead of Indians, maybe we should dress up as gang bangers. That should take care of some of that racial component.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM
PJM is not gone they just stopped subsidizing other bloggers for ads.
goat on February 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM
I wasn’t born to walk on water
I wasn’t born to sack and slaughter
But on my soul, I wasn’t born
To stoop and knuckle under
A man can learn to steal some thunder
A man can learn to work some wonder
And when the gauntlet’s down,
It’s time to rise and climb the sky
And soon the moon will smolder
And the winds will drive
Yes, a man grows older but his soul remains alive
All those tremulous stars still glitter
And I will survive!
Let my heart grow colder and as bitter as a falcon in the dive
There was a dream, a dying ember
There was a dream, I don’t remember
But I will resurrect that dream
Though rivers stream and hills grow steeper
For here in hell where life gets cheaper
Oh, here in hell the blood runs deeper
And when the final duel is near
I’ll lift my spear and fly
Piercing into the sky and higher
And the strong will thrive
Yes, the weak will cower while the fittest will survive
If we wait for the darkest hour
Till we spring alive
Then with claws of fire, we devour like a falcon in the dive
PercyB on February 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM
PJM is not gone they just stopped subsidizing other bloggers for ads.
goat on February 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Gone from here.
Instead of Indians, maybe we should dress up as gang bangers. That should take care of some of that racial component.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 12:49 AM
You try climbing the side of a ship while simultaneously attempting to keep your pants from falling around your ankles.
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Sign me up for any relevant revolution, tea party, pitchfork and torch conventions or even, dare I say it, lynching (and I mean that in the most non-racial way possible. I am just open to the idea of hanging most of these bastards, regardless of racial considerations).
I am getting to the point where legality or ethics of actions is ceasing to be a concern to me, and that disgusts me even more that the situation that has gotten me here. The other side gave up on rules, laws and ethics a long time ago. People who aren’t confined by rules and ethics tend to win for the same reasons that the revolutionary soldiers spanked the snot out of the British idiots marching through woods in formation and wearing bright red coats. Until we learn to deal effectively with this fact, our days are numbered.
Damiano on February 7, 2009 at 12:55 AM
I had to leave for a while, could someone please provide me with an update on what happened? Did it pass, and if so, by how much?
clearbluesky on February 7, 2009 at 12:58 AM
30% chance we’ll get it
wrongright.Johan Klaus on February 7, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Bishop on February 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Thanks! Intelligent design is an obvious farce given what we face. Agree on the Palin BS, Allah needs what Allah needs…so be it, still a wonderful site populated by realists that give-a-Fuc% We face an Armaggeddon of socialist pandering cloaked by moralist relativism where calling a spade a spade is considered racist…….
Burn it to the ground
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 1:00 AM
Bernie Sanders had the honesty to declare himself a Socialist. Do any other of the “democrats” in Congress have the same forthrightness?
Gohawgs on February 7, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Eh, if BlackBeard could do it with a peg leg and a parrot, so can we! I’ll get in practice with learning how to walk with pants down past my knees first. Hopefully not in public..
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 1:02 AM
I would be happy if they could ever muster the courage to call themselves socialist lite.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 1:04 AM
Ok, looks like the usual suspects cut a deal with dems and it will pass this weekend. Pathetic.
clearbluesky on February 7, 2009 at 1:04 AM
When an Indian fights, he only shoots to kill.
Hinmahtooyahlatkek on February 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Jesse, I admire your level-headedness and determination.
Here’s the thing…
It’s fine to say you aren’t going to sit on your hands. It’s fine to say that you’ll contest the consolidation of power by the Democrats. But what does that entail, really? I mean, we have a Supreme Court which says a regular citizen does not have standing to question the Constitutional qualifications of an elected official in court. What good will resisting do when a Court won’t even hear your arguments because they’ve decided you have no standing to make them?
I think it was Lenin or Stalin or someone who said that who votes doesn’t matter…what matters is who counts the votes. What good will making an argument do when organizations like ACORN are overwhelming local election boards with fradulent voter registrations, and the SCOTUS refuses to step in because, again, they’ve decided an ordinary citizen lacks standing to protest in court? And keep in mind this is the Court who said it’s fine for a government to use Eminent Domain to seize someone’s house because putting a shopping mall there can generate more tax revenue.
For that matter, a huge segment of the population says HR 1 is a bad idea and they don’t want it passed…and yet the Congress is poised to do just that, in direct defiance of the People. When Congress is no longer afraid of the People then there is a serious problem.
I don’t want to be the guy here agitating for an armed revolution because I think right now it’s still hyperbole. However I do confess to a growing sympathy for Mencken’s words:
At the risk of sounding melodramatic…respect for the rules only works when both parties have the respect. When one party doesn’t…well, it’s the reason dialogue with Iran won’t go anywhere and why debating Obama is similarly fruitless.
JohnTant on February 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Something that struck me today, was the way “Conservative” pundits talked about having the need to reinvent Conservatism…
Reinvent Conservatism… isn’t that kinda an oxymoron?
More and more I’m looking back the the founding Father’s, especialy Jefferson… for a workable Governmental philosophy…
We really need to rebuild the REPUBLIC… not the Republicans… rule of law is no longer the basis of our Society… as has been shown by the Congress taking too much power unto itself… and even Obama stopping the CLEARLY Legal Military Tribunals… Due process is no longer in place, we now have the tyranny of a man who was elected by the masses.
With over 50% of the electorate soon to pay no taxes, Democracy has failed.
As I said months ago… the next Revolutions battle cry will be… NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION!
Romeo13 on February 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM
By it’s very nature, capitalism creates wealth while socialism consumes wealth. Socialism kills motivation, innovation, and productivity and creates stagnant economies. Some attempts at socialism have lead to communism and fascism. Socialism fails always, not sometimes, not occasionally, but every single time. These facts don’t change with public opinion polls. It is something we will learn one way or another.
Dollayo on February 7, 2009 at 1:10 AM
Here’s an idea. Since we got rid of Iraq’s dictator an helped them to implement a democracy, perhaps they can come over here and return the favor.
It seems fair to me, we go rid of their Hussein. The least they could do is get rid of ours.
Damiano on February 7, 2009 at 1:12 AM
This is true. One of the most classless performances I’ve seen from a President. If you disagree with him you are engaging in “petty politics” or the same “failed ideas of the past”.
actually it is now officially unpatriotic…
Topsecretk9 on February 7, 2009 at 1:13 AM
It’s something I’ve never understood. As a child, I thought that the identical bill was voted on in both houses before going to the President for signature or veto. I would expect that having the two houses vote on different bills and then presenting one of the bills for the President’s examination would be unconstitutional. Apparently, that’s not the case.
As for the three “Republican Senators” who will vote in favor of the stimulus bill as it stands, I will be contributing to their opponents in the next primary.
unclesmrgol on February 7, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Sorry about Kennedy, but really, they need to pull a man fighting for his life, to cast a vote?
right2bright on February 7, 2009 at 1:18 AM
despite the fact that I maintain that we will NEVER recover from what is about to happen, I am just jumping back in to throw my awesomely awesome late night monologue-ish comment:
After the obligatory semi-chuckle, pound another brew with me.
RightWinged on February 7, 2009 at 1:19 AM
Not according to the results in Mumbai. One of the terrorists remained alive.
unclesmrgol on February 7, 2009 at 1:20 AM
It’s of considerable help to Congress that there isn’t an election any time soon. They’ve got to ram this crap through as soon as possible.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 1:21 AM
Dollayo on February 7, 2009 at 1:10 AM
Wonderful you naive…facts, truth and integrity no longer matter in the age of OBAMA.
“When the moon is in the 7th house and………..”
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 1:22 AM
We teach them to take their patriotism at second-hand; to shout with the largest crowd without examining into the right or wrong of the matter, exactly as boys under monarchies are taught and have always been taught. We teach them to regard as traitors, and hold in aversion and contempt, such as do not shout with the crowd, and so here in our democracy
we areObama is cheering a thing which of all things is most foreign to it and out of place, the delivery of our political conscience into somebody else’s keeping. This is patriotism on the Russian plan. The true American patriotism, the only rational patriotism, is loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government ONLY when it deserves it.- Mark Twain
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Any last prayers………..
………. for our Republic?
Seven Percent Solution on February 7, 2009 at 1:24 AM
J
John thank you.
I don’t want anyone to think I would be against a serious armed revolution if it came to that. I just don’t think this idiotic spending bill is the last straw. Remember this was also the same Supreme Court that upheld the 2nd Amendment.
Proving I think we have not lost them yet. I’m sickened with you that it seems evil is winning. Yes ACORN help Obama win (steal?) this election. So should we let them have another one, or fight them?
We have so much work to do upon the arrival or 2010. I think it does us no good to “say goodbye to America” and occupy ourselves with too much hyperbole. Instead we should do what we have been doing tonight. Keep calling and putting pressure on them. Let them know you won’t support anymore of them with your money if they are just going to piss it away.
They work for us even if they think they don’t. It’s time to remind them of that. Pressure kept every House Republican from voting for that spending bill. Who would have thought that would ever happen? Not me! If we can muster the strength to do that, imagine what else we can do.
That is why I have hope. And I wish more did too.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 1:25 AM
As I understand it, if it passes, it goes to committee to reconcile the differences between the House and Senate versions, then off to the Preznit’s desk. In between, it has to get voted on again but it’s mostly procedural at that point.
Not that it matters. The *cough* “bipartisan agreement” (if you consider 2 Republicans selling out to be bipartisan) called for eliminating 100 billion from the bill, which cut it to 700 billion and change. Within 45 minutes, it was back up to 820 billion and in excess of the House bill again. In addition to that, we’ve already got TARP III in the works, as confirmed by Schumer during this session. The only thing accomplished by the “concession” was to give Specter and Collins political cover. The bill is still as fully pork loaded as it ever was and all meaningful amendments were voted down.
Damiano on February 7, 2009 at 1:26 AM
But *sigh* the bill passed.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 1:27 AM
With the New Messiah is in the White House
And George Soros’ cheers even louder than Bill Maher’s
Al Gore will control the temperature in your own house
And your fate is no longer steered by your own stars
This is the dawning of the Age of Obamaius
Age of Obamanius
Obamanius! Obamanius!
Unlimited welfare spending and taxing
ACORN’s power abounding
No more Republican objections
Only Harry and Nancy’s visions
One more after another Supreme Court marxist ordinations
And Conservative’s complete subjugation
This is the dawning of the Age of Obamaius
Age of Obamanius
Obamanius! Obamanius!
No God and no religion can survive ridicule. No political church, no nobility, no royalty or other fraud, can face ridicule in a fair field, and live.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 1:28 AM
All I can say on the matter is that my idiotic fellow citizens who voted for these wise statesmen because, dammit, they had enough of Bushitler are about to get a bellyful.
ddrintn on February 7, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Yeah, well, facts and truth always matter. There will be consequences for this trillion dollar hole regardless of the friggin moon.
Dollayo on February 7, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Yeah… isn’t it funny how they wanted to get rid of BushHitler, so they voted for Muss’O'lini instead?
Romeo13 on February 7, 2009 at 1:32 AM
See the O, embrace the O, love the O, cherish the O….are you a Muslim, hows your Spanish?
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 1:33 AM
We hear praise of a power-wielding, arm-twisting President who “gets his program through Congress” by knowing the use of power. Throughout the course of history, there have been many other such wielders of power. There have even been dictators who regularly held plebiscites, in which their dictatorships were approved by an Ivory-soap-like percentage of the electorate. But their countries were not free, nor can any country remain free under such despotic power. Some of the current worship of powerful executives may come from those who admire strength and accomplishment of any sort. Others hail the display of Presidential strength simply because they approve of the result reached by the use of power. This is nothing less than the totalitarian philosophy that the end justifies the means. If ever there was a philosophy of government totally at war with that of the Founding Fathers, it is this one.
- Barry Goldwater
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Yes but with only 3 Senators. They and only They own this debacle with every Democrat. We have to make sure that the Republicans never hear the end of this. This we lost, but not by a large margin. I was thinking at least 10 would go for it.
That shows the power we have in making our voices heard. Obama only got this because Democrats are in control. We can’t let up with the pressure. We have to keep pushing our agenda, not theirs. We proved it could be done. Hope is not lost. Believe me.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Dollayo on February 7, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Sorry……. I forgot the /src
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 1:39 AM
I appreciate and commend your optimism.
Red State State of Mind on February 7, 2009 at 1:40 AM
Muslim? Spit! Spit!
How’s my Spanish? Mi Espanol es impecable, Gringo. Usted debe trabajar realmente en el suyo.
VinyFoxy on February 7, 2009 at 1:40 AM
Maybe, but it’ll probably have to end by a long shot.
Bikerken on February 7, 2009 at 1:41 AM
The United States of America as we knew it is officially dead. Where to now?I don’t know. This is an incredibly sad day for me.
Zetterson on February 7, 2009 at 1:42 AM
There is no sadder sight than a young pessimist, except an old optimist.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 1:44 AM
Baracito Obamolini™.
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Oh, they already had the vote? From what i saw, it looked like it had been delayed until sometime over the weekend.
clearbluesky on February 7, 2009 at 1:47 AM
I’ve sent emails to Senators Collins, Specter and Snowe telling them what I thought of their support for this democrat crafted special interest slush fund that will put us on the road to socialism. In looking up Senator “magic bullet” Specter’s contact information, I absentmindedly typed “Spectre”. :)))
How I wish 007 was here to save the day.
My 2 Senators and Congressman got the same basic email. Surprisingly, one of the Congressmen from my state, but not my district, had his email system set up NOT TO ALLOW comments from outside his district. How democratic of him…
Gohawgs on February 7, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Thank you so much. I just wish I could send how I feel to all of you. I’m not depressed by this, I’m encouraged. Encouraged by how so many of us did get that fire back and fight. They took your money, but you made damn sure they heard from you. Scared them enough that Obama barely got this passed.
But if we stop fighting and instead throw up our hands and say “nothing we do matters”, then yes, they will win.
Jesse on February 7, 2009 at 1:49 AM
Jesse, I have to disagree with you on one thing, WE HAVEN’T “been here before”. Dude, we have a president who is already spending money about 100 times faster than the last president who was apparantly wrong for spending so much. We have a president who without a doubt, is sympathetic to muslim terrorists. We have a president who was put into office while hiding his financing, hiding his birth certificate, hiding his college records, and who was completely given a pass on his devotion to a wide range of friends, associates and even his own preacher who are all America hating radicals. He even made many racists hate statements in his own two “I am so great” biographies.
Look man, this man does not have the good of the country in mind. He has specifically run for office with the intention of taking apart this country and destroying the economy to the point where we cannot go on as a democracy. He is working for the people who HATE America.
Have you not noticed that when he was elected, every scum bag in the world who hates America was celebrating. That are a lot more informed than the idiots in America who voted for this Manchurian Candidate. In just two weeks, he is already dropping this country into so much debt that the odds that it will cause our economic collapse are extrememly high.
So I beg to differ with you Jesse, we have not EVER been here before!
Bikerken on February 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM
The scrooming of America has been delayed so the senate could go on extended weekend lobbyist sponsored happy hour.
MB4 on February 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM
Anyone who isn’t paranoid simply isn’t paying attention. The light you see at the end of the tunnel is a train.
Murphy9 on February 7, 2009 at 1:53 AM
Imagine the belly laughs all over the bumpy landscape of Waziristan, multi story buildings that house La Raza and the knowledge of a permanent DNC majority.
They’re praising Allah for their deliverance, a Del Norte conquest now assured and 50 mil more bought and paid for liberal voters while we’re arguing over how fast we can force our society down into the abyss.
Speakup on February 7, 2009 at 1:55 AM
Wouldn’t it all just be easier to sign the deed over to Queen Elizabeth and say we were just kidding? Blood pudding for everyone!
Limerick on February 7, 2009 at 1:58 AM
I just spoke with her Majesty and she is not amused.
PercyB on February 7, 2009 at 2:02 AM
Limerick on February 7, 2009 at 1:58
Best we be but another Brick in the wall?
dmann on February 7, 2009 at 2:04 AM
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