Breaking: Senate centrists reach deal on stimulus? Video: 30% chance we’ll get it wrong, says Biden; Update: Spending cuts to be reinstated? Update: Kennedy flying in for vote
posted at 5:46 pm on February 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
A group of Senate moderates working on an amendment to cut up to $100 billion in spending from the economic stimulus package have completed a tentative proposal that will be presented to Senate Democrats at a 5:30 p.m. caucus meeting, Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad told reporters. “There is a proposal that is sufficiently fleshed out and we will have a caucus and discuss it,” Conrad said after emerging from talks in Senate Majority Leader Reid’s office. Democrats hope the proposal, developed by Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Ben Nelson, R-Neb. [SIC], will attract several GOP supporters and be acceptable to all Democrats, which would allow for passage of the plan as early as tonight.
Prediction time: How many Republicans vote yes?
Update: AP says the final price tag would be $780 billion.
Update: Cowards:
Reid suggested to reporters that he had two GOP backers for the bill but needed at least one more because neither wants to be the crucial 60th vote if all 58 members of the Democratic caucus support Obama.
Mel Martinez is also in the mix with Collins, Snowe, and Specter, but he’s unlikely.
Update: Under other circumstances this would get its own post but it’s essential context for this thread. It’s the Sex Panther stimulus!
Update: So narrow is the margin here that Democrats expect Teddy will have to be roused from his sickbed to cast the 60th vote for cloture. He’s in Florida right now, so if that’s true, the roll won’t come tonight.
Update: What a scam. Carl Levin says that the money being yanked out now to get the bill through the Senate might very well be reinserted during the conference committee with the House.
Update: CNN says the vote is expected tonight, and Teddy’s expected to be there.










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2, max.
Enoxo on February 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Zero
How many Dems posing as Republicans vote?
2
carbon_footprint on February 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM
1
MayBee on February 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Name ‘em. Shame ‘em. Don’t give a dime to ‘em for re-election.
Vizzini on February 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM
This is no way to honor Ronald Reagan on his birthday.
ocbrat on February 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Wow really!! We can have a bill that only wasted 800 billion? I’m on board 110%.
I say 3 vote for it.
jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM
NOOOOOOOO!
TexasDude on February 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Make them read the “bill” on the floor…get it stalled through the weekend.
aquaviva on February 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Who cares? McCain is right – 3 or 4 out of 535 does not constitute bipartisanship.
How many Democrats voted for the Iraq war resolution? Did Bush get any traction trying to hold them responsible for that vote when Iraq went South?
rockmom on February 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Death of the Republic.
Dollar collapses within a year.
darwin on February 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Put me in for 4.
All 4 should be dragged out of the Senate afterward an flogged. Worthless Pieces of S…
Damiano on February 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
It’ll be Snowe, Collins, and Specter. Screw Northeast Republicrats.
JustinHiggins on February 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
DUDE! They better not! I’m going to stand with Laura Ingraham. I will never FORGET the names of ANY Republican that votes for this piece of sh!t bill and I will give money, time, and support to any effort to unseat them the next time the come up for re-election.
Sultry Beauty on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
This might get the necessary votes to pass. *sigh*
They wouldn’t spend time on a deal like this if they weren’t pretty sure it would work.
JetBoy on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Collins for sure
gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
no vote tonight
ousoonerfan15 on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
One is too many.
pugwriter on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
The best way Republicans can honor the Gipper is to vote “No!” en masse. Make this abortion a totally Democrat thing…no compromise.
coldwarrior on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
vdocam on February 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM
4
All four should be called out and their phones should be rendered useless by 24/7 calls reminding then what the heck a Republican is and how on earth they could think this crap sandwich is anything but a disaster is beyond me…..
Sad day for America….
SDarchitect on February 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
How is cutting $100B of a $900B porkfest a compromise?
patriette on February 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Craptastic. So much for the voice of the people.
Keep calling, make them sweat.
HornetSting on February 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Sheep dip.
Corky on February 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
pass around the steak sauce and spread it on the $hit sandwich and Collins will eat it
gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
I am going out on a limb and say 8.
The American people still lose.
bopbottle on February 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
No NO NOOOOOO.
NO DEAL.
ctmom on February 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM
4 RINOs…will any dems oppose?
lukespapa on February 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM
I’m waiting to see what this “compromise” is. I suspect it’s more like “if you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours”. Lets hope the bill goes down to resounding defeat. It’s odd that no one can get through on any senators phone. I think they took them off the hook.
kanda on February 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM
why the hell do the senators care about this? Its not money off their back. They have a vacation to look forward to next week if they’d hurry up and vote
gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Four, all RINOs.
MadisonConservative on February 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Cut ONLY $100 BILLION. They were already up to $900 BILLION from the House’s original $800 Billion. What the fuck are those assholes smoking?
GarandFan on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Prediction: how many RINOs will I help oust? Any of these turds who vote for the porkulus can expect to face an opponent funded by outraged Americans like me.
I clip coupons, do without, and work hard. I’ll scrape up donations to get these idiots out of my government. How dare they do this with my money, my kids’ money!
Laura in Maryland on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
can you picture obama’s smug grin monday if they do pull of this sham ‘bi-partisan’ bill? disghusting
gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
If this passes, dems and RINOs won’t be living in fear of not being re-elected, they could very well be in fear for their lives when the crash comes.
Vashta.Nerada on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
who ever they are Michael Steele should cut any funding for them.
kara26 on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
MY KIDS MONEY!
gatorboy on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
No vote! I really don’t want Obambi to enjoy his show tonight.
ctmom on February 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM
who ever they are Michael Steele should cut any funding for them.kara26 on February 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM
excellent idea!
ctmom on February 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Well, since an 11% cut is sufficient for them, I’m going to cut 11% of my tax burden this year. Hell, I’ll still be 100% ahead of half of Bambi’s Cabinet.
Flyover Country on February 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM
oops wrong thingy.
ctmom on February 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM
The exact same number as those that should get screwed in the future.
Patrick S on February 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM
It will be short-lived. His rocky road is just beginning.
sherry on February 6, 2009 at 5:57 PM
It reminds me of a court case (or maybe Law & Order episode) where a woman asked a rapist to please use a condom so at least she wouldn’t get HIV in addition to getting raped.
The rapist complied and used the condom. The court ruled it had to be consensual because he used protection.
Why does this sound familiar.
Laura in Maryland on February 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Less than this announcement would suggest. This has the smell of one of those blustering “accomplishments” that fall apart.
P.S. I will not contribute one dime to the Senate Re-election campaign if it goes to Collins or any other GOP Senator who votes for this legislation.
highhopes on February 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Things can’t keep going on like this – if only 37% of the country supports this, and 55% of the public believes that congress members don’t pay their taxes (per Rassmussen), scary times are coming.
melda on February 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Reagan is rolling over in his grave right now.
pmanley on February 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM
We need a Norma Rae Senator here. Stand on their desk with a sign that says no.
portlandon on February 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM
This Collins chick is always on the wrong side of everything.
She’s like our version of Jamie Gorelick.
carbon_footprint on February 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM
With a trillion dollars on the table, that’s enough to bribe at least 5 gutless Republicans with pet projects to vote for it.
blue13326 on February 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I take back my 8 and go with 3. I have been out of the loop most of the day.
bopbottle on February 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I’m tired of Republicans who want to be liked by liberal Democrats more than be actual Republicans. Collins & Co. are willing to bend over and waste taxpayer money to get The One to like them. Vile.
amerpundit on February 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I’d guess Nelson votes no, and Feinstein may as well. How many other dems will bail. Harry Reid also said ‘the war is lost’, one must remember. Game not over yet.
Vashta.Nerada on February 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM
So the Bill is back to about the original amount Pelosi wanted…yay.
Weight of Glory on February 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM
0.
ExTex on February 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM
The names of ANY Republicans who vote for this should be etched in marble and put on the gravestone of the USA.
I will actively work to defeat all Republicans who vote for this piece of crap trojan horse full of socialism.
NTWR on February 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM
I heard the bill was $800 billion. Did they raise it by 100 billion just so they could agree to a 100 billion cut and return to what they had originally?
Not sure what’s going on, but my BS detector is going through the roof.
MrX on February 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM
I agree, and frankly am looking forward to it.
Vashta.Nerada on February 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM
We need the extinction of the RINO.
This should be the motto of the republicans–
What Would Ronald Reagan Do?
jencab on February 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM
So the flim flam man has sold us a wagon load of magic fertilizer for only 1,000 billion, and we managed to negotiate a ten percent discount?
Sounds like a good deal to me, after all, it’s ten percent off.
(Note: arithmetic using ’round’ numbers quibblers can go pound sand.)
Skandia Recluse on February 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Five RINOS vote yes, Voinebitch, Spectre, Snowejob, Collins
and McCain. The interesting thing is whether any dems will vote no, and what will the bill’s fate be when it returns to the House. Will the Blue Dogs still find it unappetizing?
eaglewingz08 on February 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Carl Cameron is denying on Fox that there IS a deal.
CK MacLeod on February 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM
I think any Republican that breaks ranks will have to meet with a terrible accident.
izoneguy on February 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM
If any Repubs vote for this I’ll register as a freaking independent!
VolMagic on February 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Heh. I take it that Pat Toomey’s going to be very popular if he speaks at CPAC.
That is, of course, if Specter votes for this garbage.
Which he will.
After all, under Scots law the bill is “not pork.”
KingGold on February 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM
RIP AMERICA
angryed on February 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Obama, Pelosi and Reid clearly want to get as many Republican fingerprints on this President Pelosi Plethora of Pork POS as possible.
MB4 on February 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Steele and the RNC should start looking for primary opponents.
BuckeyeSam on February 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Term limits … we need term limits.
The allure of power and money is just too much for people, especially the type of people that seek to fatten themselves as public servants.
darwin on February 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM
girding as we speak
trailortrash on February 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Especially since they added $110B in the Senate when they received it from the House. It would end up being the same Craptastic Sandwich the House passed. At a minimum, they should cut the $100B from that point downward.
Mallard T. Drake on February 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM
IF true America got its ass kicked!
allrsn on February 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason.
Cheshire Cat on February 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM
still very unlikely for a vote tonight
ousoonerfan15 on February 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Wow, what a deal. That certainly is a lot of holes to dig and then fill up. Better get to work, Allah.
jimmy the notable on February 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Ooooh, 780 BILLION dollars -oops, 830 BILLION dollars…an impressive compromise indeed…my hiney!
Not passing this bill does NOT indicate that “gridlock” has prevailed – it indicates that the PEOPLE HAVE PREVAILED.
Sorry that this is another inconvenient truth that our porcelain president is having to face, but the people are represented by Congress; it is not that he controls Congress.
I’m with those who swear to contribute to the campaigns AGAINST any GOP who votes for this pork-ulus bill.
Cindy of TX on February 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM
780 Billion plus a 45 billion side deal
(just now on Fox)
Skandia Recluse on February 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM
RIP GOP[[[[[[[[
angryed on February 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Remember………….
………… these As#-Clowns caused this problem in the first place.
Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Just sent Steele an email. I won’t donate to the RNC but directly to individual campaigns if any RNC funds support any of these traitors.
ctmom on February 6, 2009 at 6:09 PM
I think it’ll be two. Susan Collins is starting to realize she doesn’t want to be another Olympia Snowe.
joe_doufu on February 6, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Can we march on D.C. and throw these bastards out now?
They need to be dragged out of Congress and kicked by millions of people all the way out.
darwin on February 6, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Unless Teddy Kennedy is up off his sickbed, it’s actually 57 Dems. They’d need three.
Wethal on February 6, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I think that’s a fantastic idea.
HornetSting on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM
good idea
allrsn on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Chickenshi**s.
nickj116 on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM
The spending will never stop. No one put on the brakes. They never do.
Congress is leading people to believe that this is necessary now and that they will deal with being fiscally responsible in the future. They won’t. They don’t know how.
Bastards.
Cody1991 on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM
No one should want to be the 58th or the 59th vote, either.
misslizzi on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM
4
DannoJyd on February 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM
I just sent a similar message to the Senate Reelection Committee. If Collins votes with the Democrats, I’m not going to give them any money if they sqander it on her reelection. Ditto any other RINO traitor that votes with the rats at this very important watershed in government involvement in private life.
highhopes on February 6, 2009 at 6:12 PM
This all has been a game of foolery. Obama only wanted 775 billion. They added all this crap in to just end up taking it out, making it look like they’re bipartisan.
Enoxo on February 6, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Liens were busy ALL day – can anyone mistake that these individuals listen to their (voting) constituents? Seems that the only ones they listen to are their paying constituents.
wtis02575 on February 6, 2009 at 6:13 PM
I friggin’ hate Martinez, as a Florida resident. I’m glad he’s gone… I was going to do everything I could to block him being re-elected.
Enoxo on February 6, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Tax cheat Tom Daschle is a perfect example as he got 5 million peddling influence even after he left the senate. The U.S.A. has become a kleptocracy.
MB4 on February 6, 2009 at 6:13 PM
I can already picture the dramatics. Kennedy getting up off his deathbed to come to the Senate and cast the deciding vote as to whether or not our children are incumbered for generations with a bill designed to give the left everything they’ve been wanting for the last 40 years.
highhopes on February 6, 2009 at 6:15 PM
When this vote comes down, the torches are going to be brandished and primary opponents are going to be found.
Collins has got to be #58. She just won re-election. Snowe’s not facing the voters until 2012. I’d put my money on her for #59.
KingGold on February 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM
I just heard they had three Republicans so far. The GOP is hoping that not more than 4 will vote for it. But it’d be better if none voted for it. Still, the Dems have to agree to the ammendment.
MrX on February 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Collins, Snowe, and Specter should be officially removed from the rolls of the Republican Party. They can call themselves Republicans, but the GOP should no longer recognize, or fund them.
darwin on February 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM
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