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Stimulusmania: Support for bill dropped 12 points in January, says new CBS poll; Update: Senate calls it a night

posted at 8:12 pm on February 5, 2009 by Allahpundit
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No wonder The One’s in such a hurry to ram it through: The longer this thing rots, the more people end up running from the smell. A bare majority still support it, CBS notes — contra Rasmussen — but that’s the only stimulus-related good news here for Democrats:

Eighty-one percent of Americans say the stimulus bill should be a bipartisan effort. Just 13 percent think it is okay for a bill to be passed with only the backing of the Democratic majority.

There are signs that Americans are receptive to Republicans’ push to increase the proportion of tax cuts in the stimulus bill: Asked whether higher government spending or tax cuts for business would be more effective in ending the recession, 59 percent choose the tax cuts. Just 22 percent prefer more government spending…

The public is not optimistic about the impact of the economic stimulus bill: Just 21 percent believe it will significantly shorten the recession. An additional 18 percent believe it will shorten the recession slightly. Forty-five percent say it will not shorten the recession at all.

Madam Speaker assured Obama tonight that she’s got his back. We’ll see how that holds up when he comes asking for another trillion for TARP II, especially since (again per CBS) a slim plurality now opposes any further bailouts.

The Senate vote is expected tonight but no one knows when. Over/under on the roll call is 10:15 p.m.; over/under on the bill itself, which is still being written, is $815 billion. Treat this as an open thread if you’re watching the floor debates on C-SPAN2. While we wait, here’s Grahamnesty continuing his big day with a golden moment on the floor versus Barbara Boxer.

Update: Reid’s decided that the debate on whether to drop $800 billion should extend another couple of hours, so he’ll see you tomorrow morning.


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Wow. Graham got some balls.

Tabris on February 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Madam Speaker assured Obama tonight that she’s got his back.

I bet she wishes he would say the same.

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Eighty-one percent of Americans say the stimulus bill should be a bipartisan effort

It’s official, the American people have spoken..and they like Rush’s plan better!

javamartini on February 5, 2009 at 8:17 PM

And here I thought Graham was just milk toast.

bloggless on February 5, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Wow, Sen. Boxer is looking a tad worn.

Cindy Munford on February 5, 2009 at 8:19 PM

The ironic thing is that Barry could have Reid trim it by 200 billion and look like he’s being responsible- that’s how huge this nuclear Pork Bomb is.
But being arrogant, he’s going to double down Monday night- and will sadly probably win due to our feckless northeast RINOs.

jjshaka on February 5, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Boxer vid?

Christien on February 5, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Boxer or briefs? Either way she stinks.

eaglewingz08 on February 5, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Over at National Review corner it mention the DeMint Amendment and how it failed. The DeMint Amendment would allow Christians and other religious people to continue to have bible study and pray in college campus. It failed big time, all democrats voted against ALL CHRISTIANS TODAY.

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:22 PM

At least Graham is passionate about something besides McCain for once…

Pasalubong on February 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM

From the Corner:

DeMint Amendment Against Religious Discrimination Fails

Senator DeMint’s amendment would have eliminated a provision that bans any university or college receiving funds to renovate buildings, from allowing “sectarian instruction” or “religious worship” within the facility. This would in effect bar use of campus buildings for groups like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Campus Crusade for Christ, Catholic Student Ministries, Hillel, and other religious organizations.

Roll call vote here.

INC on February 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM

What’s the Over/Under on Republican senators voting for it?

churchill995 on February 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Stimulus

Stimulthem

Nuttin in der for us.

fogw on February 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM

How bad has Obambi and the Dimbocrats F**ked up to have Grhamesty going nuclear on them??

Unbelievable….

Dritanian on February 5, 2009 at 8:25 PM

This amendment failed earlier today:

Statement of Purpose:

To provide greater accountability of taxpayers’ dollars by curtailing congressional earmarking and requiring disclosure of lobbying by recipients of Federal funds.

INC on February 5, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Republicans can now call this bill the ANTI-CHRISTIAN BILL.

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM

they are scared.

rob verdi on February 5, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Collins and Snowe are the ONLY Republicans I saw who voted against DeMint’s amendment.

INC on February 5, 2009 at 8:27 PM

I never approved of calling him this, but. . . GO Grahamnesty Go!!!!!

toliver on February 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM

THERE IS NO WAY IN HECK DEMOCRATS CAN WIN IN 2010 and 2012. NO WAY. WE WILL CONTROL THE HOUSE in 2011 and in 2013 we WILL CONTROL THE SENATE and the WHITEHOUSE AGAIN!!! Since NO CHRISTIAN WHATSO EVER WILL VOTE DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM

No wonder he got mad. When the best she has is to wave papers and try to make fun of him for waving papers.

(Man, they are always so like that! Trying to make fun of their opponent.)

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:29 PM

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF US CHRISTIANS WILL START AN UPRISING AGAINST THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN PARTY AKA DEMOCRAT PARTY.

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:30 PM

all democrats voted against ALL CHRISTIANS TODAY.

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:22 PM

In the past 10 days we’ve seen how Obama hates white rural folk (in KY and AR) and wants them to freeze to death, starve or be poisoned by tainted peanut butter…the One hasn’t visited the stricken areas, has he? But will he have time to meet with Congressional DEMs?

And now we learn that the Congressional DEMS also hate all Christians and Jews (Hillel was mentioned in the link).
/s

Red State State of Mind on February 5, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Over 300 Economists Oppose the Stimulus Package (Cato Institute)

Poptech on February 5, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Invoking BOOOOSH. That’s fear you can believe in.

Laura in Maryland on February 5, 2009 at 8:31 PM

(Man, they are always so like that! Trying to make fun of their opponent.)

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:29 PM

You called it! Alinsky says personalize the target.

Laura in Maryland on February 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM

How do they possibly justify not giving funds to educational institutions that allow religious groups to meet?

HOW?

“Everybody can use the buildings except for those who are religious.”

What are they going to do next – go into the philosophy departments and demand they stop covering anything having to do with religious philosophies?

This is flipping WAR.

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Asked whether higher government spending or tax cuts for business would be more effective in ending the recession, 59 percent choose the tax cuts. Just 22 percent prefer more government spending…

Wonder when Democrats declare tax cuts the new opiate of the masses…

elgeneralisimo on February 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM

It won’t be their fault! It’s Bush’s fault for passing the first one and souring the mood of Americans against further bailouts!

SouthernGent on February 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM

Obama is speaking now………….

………. just another campaign speech.

Seven Percent Solution on February 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM

The problem with what is happening is the democrats have more power the weaker the country becomes. As more and more people look to the government for entitlements, the less freedom we will have. With the control they have now, with their total disregard for legalities, we’re forked.

volsense on February 5, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Barbara Boxer makes me feel ashamed to be a woman.

bloggless on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Good job Graham. The Republicans need to hang tough and if the left should pass this rape of the treasury, then the left can hold the bag and when it fails, dodge the pitchforks.

Do not give in!

rplat on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Obama is speaking now………….

………. just another campaign speech.

Seven Percent Solution on February 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Dear Leader is explaining that the proletariat rejected tax cuts in the past because they are a failed policy.

Red State State of Mind on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Obama is yelling on TV right now!

aquaviva on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Attention Mr Capslock: at the rate Osama Obama and his co-conspirators are grabbing power and wasting money, 2010 WILL BE TOO LATE!

MrScribbler on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Reid saying bill delayed till Fri.

Weight of Glory on February 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM

THE ONE is once again on TV pissing, moaning and whining, that this has to get done N-O-W. Poor, poor little Bambi. He “found this national debt rapped up in a big bow when I showed up.” LOL!!!!
I love this chit.

Chewy the Lab on February 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Am I the only one here who wants to scream “STFU” at the television screen? What a colossal a$$ he is – “we’re gonna spend you into oblivion because we LOVE you and it’s the right thing to do…”

uncivilized on February 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM

He’s using the pully bulpit.

aquaviva on February 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM

I voted against Graham in the primary and for him in the general election. He’s not everything I want in a Republican but his record shows that he votes the right way more often than any Democrat.

I’m not ready to say that he has totally rehabilitated himself but he is showing signs of why we gave him that Senate seat to begin with.

backwoods conservative on February 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM

It won’t be their fault! It’s Bush’s fault for passing the first one and souring the mood of Americans against further bailouts!

SouthernGent on February 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM

That’s the biggest pile of donkey dung I’ve heard lately. The left knows exactly what they are doing and that is to give their messiah the authority to rape the treasury and pay off his political debts. It may pass but let’s not forget who passed it and exactly what it is for.

rplat on February 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Obama is yelling on TV right now!

aquaviva on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Wow. The guy is out of his friggin’ mind. Insane.

The SCOTUS had better remove this wackjob soon. He is losing it. Fast.

progressoverpeace on February 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM

IS THIS JACKASS REALLY SAYING WHAT HE’S SAYING!

Weight of Glory on February 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM

What’s the Over/Under on Republican senators voting for it?

churchill995 on February 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Judging from Michelle’s site, looks like 3. If Voinovich votes for it it will only make me happier that I won’t have to vote for him again as the lesser evil.

I know Specter’s largely a lost cause, but what is the matter with those Maine women?

churchill995 on February 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Republicans voting against DeMint’s amend., Snowe and Collins, Dems voting for it, Bayh, Conrad, Dorgan, Leiberman and Nelson(ND). Calm down Bronco it is anti-religion not just anti-Christian. It would also keep it from muslim groups.

goat on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Like a used car salesman. Just waiting for the Prez to hold a press conference to say he’s going to go talk to his manager to see if he can get us a better deal but we need to be willing to sign today.

moxie_neanderthal on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

At least he just admitted that it’s a SPENDING Bill!!

“That’s the whole point!”

What a moron.

progressoverpeace on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

He’s off the rails here.

He thinks he’s back at Trinity.

aquaviva on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Uh…uh…uh…

uncivilized on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Shoot – I missed the yelling part. I just turned it on.

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

The only people playing games are democrats, you douche bag. I hate that man with every fiber of my body.

SouthernGent on February 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM

OMG!!! I am watching HIM speak on Fox right now. It is like he is a comedian. He has no class, no grace, no sense of decorum. This is downright frightening. God help us.

bloggless on February 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM

He sounds so angry.

Brat4life on February 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Holy crap! Are you guys getting what Obama is saying? He holds up a bill of pork, and then says its clean of earmarks! He then states that indiscriminant spending is simulative. This guy is a child! He’s very dangerous.

Weight of Glory on February 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM

IS THIS JACKASS REALLY SAYING WHAT HE’S SAYING!

Weight of Glory on February 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM

He’s losing it. Quickly.

progressoverpeace on February 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Obama is yelling on TV right now!

aquaviva on February 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM

He’s panicking. The public is turning against something he’s been pushing for and something the people he owes for his election support (unions, etc.) His nominees have been dropping like flies, his approval rating is down, and the media has slowly started pressing him.

amerpundit on February 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Good God- watching this right now
He is an embarrassment- he in no way presidential.
What a rambling screed that insults those who have legit problems with this monstosity.
Well at least we know how he reacts to a little adversity- like an 8 year old.

jjshaka on February 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Roll call vote here.

INC on February 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM

I noticed Kennedy (and Gregg) were not voting. And they’re missing the other MN senator due to the election contest. If Kennedy is too ill to come to the Senate, then Harry has to find another RINO for that extra Dem vote. No wonder he hasn’t made it to 60 yet.

Wethal on February 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Is The One really yelling at the TV? I refuse to watch the whole thing live, or any of it. I look forward to the highlights.

toliver on February 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Seriously, why is he yelling? And where is he speaking?

SouthernGent on February 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Someone tell me when his speech is over. The sound of his voice makes my dog howl.

sherry on February 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Are there not many people there? The applause is kinda spotty. And these would be – all Democrats, right?

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Who cares if he’s angry, Americans don’t fear anger . . . they just return it in kind.

rplat on February 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Decades of empty rhetoric?

(Doesn’t that include Clinton?)

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

churchill995 on February 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM

GOP has 40 voters the Dems have 57 so Reid would have to peel off three while keeping his caucus intact. The GOP could likewise peel off red state Dems like Bayh, Conrad, Dorgan and Nelson.

goat on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Hey GOAT DEMOCRATS WILL MAKE SURE MUSLIMS will continue to use college campus for their acitivites. It is only is in effect for christians. Christians only.

BroncosRock on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Hey – since I have had this on, I have heard him say – not a dang thing new! He shoulda been a preacher, really.

Alana on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

I don’t have cable, and Obama is not on any of the networks. “Ugly Betty” is probably getting more viewers.

Wethal on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

BO needs to get him some pom poms. Give me a S, give me a T, give me an I…

d1carter on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

I THINK OUR PRESIDENT IS HAVING A TANTRUM!!!!!!!!1

bloggless on February 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM

How, exactly, are some (temporary) minimum wage $h!t-shoveling jobs building schools and bridges gonna save the economy, Barry? What happens when the schools and bridges are all built???

uncivilized on February 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM

We will keep hoping that you guys do the right thing and kill the bill.

Brat4life on February 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM

He goes from angry black man with a tinge of ebonics to cool, calm, glistening pecs surfer white dude quite well.

SouthernGent on February 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM

You all are a bunch of self center people here. You should care about those abusing the system. Per your prez.

Brat4life on February 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Does anybody remember a President who is conituously on TV so early in his term? This clown doesn’t know how to be a President, only how to play a president on TV.

AP, apparently he’s dropping charges against USS Cole.

promachus on February 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Wethal on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Well, Ugly Barry has gone from yelling to laughing to talking about decades of empty rhetoric which, as Alana points out, would include Clinton.

amerpundit on February 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Day 17

aquaviva on February 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Did I hear this lunatic say “the tyranny of oil”?

RightWinged on February 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM

AP, the video is not working anymore.

promachus on February 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM

What kind of advice is this clown getting? He looks like a preacher – why is he still running his campaign?

churchill995 on February 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM

He’s campaning again. Didn’t anyone tell him he won.

Gotta wonder who is in the crowd.

Brat4life on February 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Dear Democrat Voters:

Are y’all embarrassed yet?
WE are…

Lots of Love,
Conservative America

uncivilized on February 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Hey, Barry, the progressive screaming and “Thank you!” thing doesn’t work so well when the room doesn’t have that many people in it and they’re giving short applause. Someone was on the trail a wee bit too long.

amerpundit on February 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Sounds like Mr. Cool has blown a gasket.

goat on February 5, 2009 at 8:50 PM

He is off his nut!! I have never seen anything like that.

bloggless on February 5, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Hells bells, is he done yet? God, this man is scaring the living s**t out of me!

jewells45 on February 5, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Nelson(D) of FL is from my town.

Before Christmas, the local high school Fellowship of Christian Athletes was collecting food donations for needy families. They later put up a sign saying thank you and noting how many families were fed.

I intend to let Nelson know about this tomorrow.

Meanwhile rather than have high school kids do some real faith-based initiatives, Obama has done this:

President Obama launches his faith-based programs today, appointing pastor Josh DuBois to head up operations. The program departs from President Bush’s by focusing on family planning and Muslim outreach. NPR’s Barbara Bradley Hagerty talks about what Mr. Obama has planned for the future of the Office for Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

INC on February 5, 2009 at 8:50 PM

It’s a campaign stop. Outta control!!!!!!

bloggless on February 5, 2009 at 8:51 PM

He’s campaning again. Didn’t anyone tell him he won.

Gotta wonder who is in the crowd.

Brat4life on February 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM

HE told US he won – just last week. Kinda snotty-like.

uncivilized on February 5, 2009 at 8:51 PM

One word………….

…………… teleprompter.

Seven Percent Solution on February 5, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Democrats are in Kingsmill Resort and Spa in Williamsburg. Obama boasts about taking AF1 there- 117 miles away from the White House. It costs around $60,000 an hour to run AF1.

The economy may be in crisis, but hypocrisy is alive and well.

batterup on February 5, 2009 at 8:51 PM

oh yeah, Shep just reminded me of another highlight… Obama bitching about the “cable chatter”…. Translation: Don’t pay attention to anyone who questions The Anointed One’s wisdom!

RightWinged on February 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM

BO needs to get him some pom poms. Give me a S, give me a T, give me an I…

d1carter on February 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM

LOLOLOL. Cute!

Chewy the Lab on February 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM

The positive outlook here is that HIS stimulus bill will ultimately be a failure and that will be his legacy. The same way he got in office will the same reason he is run out: his empty speeches.

sherry on February 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Major Garrett said the debate has completely stopped for tonight. NOT a good sign for obama.

ousoonerfan15 on February 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM

HE told US he won – just last week. Kinda snotty-like.

uncivilized on February 5, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Yes but he just said he’s still campaning or pretty close to it.

Brat4life on February 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Who said he was a centrist? Scratch the surface, he’s whiny adolescent who hasn’t let go of his cray utopian schemes. OMG.

The Worst President Ever.

promachus on February 5, 2009 at 8:53 PM

So am I understanding that the bill won’t be voted on tonight?

jewells45 on February 5, 2009 at 8:53 PM

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