But is that life a human being once those cells begin to multiply? Life does not necessarily mean a human being. Would that make a miscarriage involuntary manslaughter?

At the moment of conception a series of developments begin that will continue until death. It is merely the first state of humanity, but not the last.

Jvette on February 5, 2009 at 1:23 PM

TrickyDick on February 5, 2009 at 1:36 Unfortunately for us and the rest of the world, B. Hussien Obamas mother didn’t abort him.PM

Truly an unfortunate and uncalled for statement. Obama may not be the president I would have liked, but his life is precious to God. Let us not become the liberals we despise.

Jvette on February 5, 2009 at 1:47 PM

it’s so hard to believe you neocons are truly “pro-life” when you support misguided wars that lead to the deaths of innocent people who are actually BORN, as opposed to FETUSES which are nothing….

Save your crocodile tears, Ed, you unoriginal RNC-shilling hack….

Noneya on February 5, 2009 at 2:27 PM

It is so hard to believe that people like you don’t know the difference between those who are inadvertently killed in war and an innocent life still in the womb.

I know you know, but you willfully ignore the fact that our soldiers have done and continue to do everything they can to minimize the death of civilians in this war. Abortion however always results in the death of an innocent life, it’s very purpose is death.

I know you know as well, that the American military did not seek this war, but are fighting it in the hopes that the crazed murdering Islamic fanatics will be defeated and discontinue their reign of terror and killing throughout the world.

You know what else? STFU with your phony concern for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. Where was your moral outrage while women and children were being subjected to the most heinous abuse at the hands of the Islamic fanatics in those countries? Where was your outrage as Saddam and his evil spawn raped, tortured and killed people for the sheer pleasure of it?

Give me a break. Over the next few years, those of you who have forgotten who the good guys are in this world, will soon be reminded and come wailing to those you disparage now to do something to protect you. If I had my way, you would be left to fend for yourselves, but I don’t, so your sorry asses will be protected and defended by our fine military just because you happen to be born in this great country.

I can promise you that those Islamic murderers care not whom they must kill to further their ideals. In fact, women and children are preferred targets. I reiterate, STFU

Jvette on February 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM

So just because I was against the 2003 invasion I must support Saddam? Nice set of false choices there. For the record I supported the first Gulf War and would have supported taking out Saddam back then when the world was with us and we didn’t have to pay such a high price in blood and treasure that we will be paying for for generations.

At what point did I suggest that you support Saddam? I asked where was your outrage? This is typical lib sleight of hand, but it doesn’t work with me. If you, in fact, supported the first Gulf War, then you must admit that the 2003 invasion was not a new war, but a resumption of the first due to the fact that Saddam broke the cease fire agreement and then 17 more UN resolutions. All of which stated that a resuming of hostilities was justified if and when Saddam broke them. Saddam was not taken out in 1991 because the world did not want us too. The coalition objective was to force Saddam’s army’s retreat from Kuwait. It was believed that with sanctions and UN resolutions, Saddam could be marginalized within his own country.

None of this, None of it, has anything to do with the treatment of Iraqis at the hands of Saddam, his sons and his minions. Saddam continued to flout the resolutions, firing on our airplanes in the no fly zone, seeking to resurrect his chemical, biological and nuclear programs, stealing the aid for his people to enrich himself and buy weapons and pay off the families of suicide bombers in Israel(an ally by the way), and killing, maiming and destroying those in his country who opposed him. Where was your OUTRAGE regarding all of this?

President Bush and VP Cheney made it clear at the outset that they would not sit by and allow what happened on 9-11 happen ever again. At least not on their watch. Saddam was a known enemy of the US and Western interests. He was known to support terrorism with money and if he had WMD or was close to to developing them, it was not a far fetched thought that he would share them. It is also true that Al Quaeda members went to Iraq following the invasion and their rout in Afghanistan. The Iraq invasion was a second front in the same war. It is no different that the different fields of battle in WWII. You know, continental Europe, the Pacific and North Africa. Same thing.

And how do you know what we might have lost in the original War in the Gulf? How do you know that we wouldn’t still be there now? How do you know that the “world” that was so with us then wouldn’t have cut and run when things got tough? If we are to survive, one thing we have learned is that we can’t count on the rest of the world. Especially the weak, frightened Europeans who wait and see which way the wind is blowing before taking a stand.

VP Cheney was right when he said that we could not let the next smoking gun be a nuclear attack on an American city. The invasion was the right thing to do and the Iraqi people now have a chance to rebuild their own country in a way that they could never have done on their own. Spare me your false chest thumping about how you supported the first Gulf War.

Uh, excuse me? Liberals serve in the military too. So do gays. But ofcourse they are not real “Amuuricans” to you.

Noneya on February 5, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Uh, excuse me? Where did I say anything about libs in the military? I said, and pay attention here, that those who have forgotten who the good guys are in this conflict will soon be reminded. Let me spell it out for you as you don’t seem to understand the import of what I said. The good guys are the Americans and the rest of the coalition who are fighting out of love of humanity and a desire to live peacefully, those who are willing to sacrifice their very lives to gain that peace. The good guys are NOT those who blow up women and children, people praying in Mosques,and NOT those who fight out of hatred and a desire to impose their will and oppression on the rest of the world, spreading their ideology by the sword.

The good guys, again, so you’ll understand, are the Americans and the rest of the coalition, who fight in defense of the oppressed, the tortured, the murdered and exploited.

I admire and honor whomever takes up the fight, regardless of their sexual or political orientation. Me thinks you doth protest too much. Is that because maybe you are worried that you are unAmuuurican in the way you have disparaged our President, our military and Americans throughout this country who know that though we desire peace, there are dangerous and murderous people in this world who do not and who will bring their carnage once again to our shores if not stopped at their own?

Jvette on February 5, 2009 at 5:20 PM