Obama said what?
posted at 12:15 pm on February 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Jim Geraghty reports on Barack Obama’s statement on the sanctity of human life during today’s National Prayer Breakfast:
“We know there is no God who condones the killing of an innocent human being.”
Well, great! Perhaps then President Obama would also agree that we know no God who condones the negligent killing of innocent human beings who survive abortions. Of course, Obama would have to acknowledge now that his position has changed since his days in the Illinois state legislature, when he helped protect abortionists by blocking legislation that would have required a second doctor to act on behalf of infants born alive after an abortion. God knows that those children were and are innocents, alive at birth, and left to die in abortion mills.
Perhaps that will also lead Obama to oppose the Freedom of Choice Act, which would remove all existing restrictions on the killing of innocent human beings in the womb. After all, once the sperm and egg combine, the result is a unique being, completely human, and alive. That isn’t a theological determination, but a scientific fact at the moment the cell begins to multiply, within minutes of conception. Certainly that would be the apex of innocence. If no God condones the killing of an innocent human being, the condemnation for that act would begin at life itself.
We will remind Presisdent Obama of his profound words at every opportunity over the next four years, and thank him for making this as clear as possible.
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Can we PLEASE, PLEASE get to the midterm elections already and vote with some sanity? I feel like I’ve aged ten years since election day…i cannot stomach this…
Mommypundit on February 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM
I check the bottle. Short, short expiration date on this one.
Nethicus on February 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Sorry for that. Great post, Ed. I love your pro life commentary.
Mommypundit on February 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Time to put this poster away.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Wait…Obama’s an atheist?
Allah? SECOND LOOK AT OBAMA?
MadisonConservative on February 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM
er, CHECKED the bottle. Grr. Frankenstein check bottle! Frankenstein run against Coleman! Fire bad!
Nethicus on February 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM
We know there is no God who condones the killing of an innocent human being.
Thank the gods that babies are merely lumps of tissue until they take their first breath, and even that rule is bent from time to time.
Bishop on February 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM
I look forward to the Presidential denunciation of Islamist terror on these very grounds.
Kid from Brooklyn on February 5, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Did you ever think that maybe Obama thinks that babies are born bad? Maybe he’s an original sin fetishist.
Abby Adams on February 5, 2009 at 12:20 PM
BHO is on my tv yelling at me right now. I am scared.
HawaiiLwyr on February 5, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I love being on the offense for once. I don’t have to think about what I say, I just point the finger and shriek.
Darth Executor on February 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Another case of waffling.
sherry on February 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM
This is BS and pandering from the socialist.
jencab on February 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM
That’s what I was thinking….. I think we’ll be waiting for a very long time, kiddo.
mjk on February 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Words.Deeds.shaken on February 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM
He’s everywhere! It’s creepy.
JiangxiDad on February 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Silly Ed. Easy answer. Those things aren’t human. They’re a choice. Dispatch the inconvenient little meatsacks with all speed. :)
spmat on February 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM
to make his squirm, ask him why it is Planned Parenthood centers are mostly in Minority communities and if he knows the history of Margaret Sanger?
jp on February 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM
What do you mean? I am hyper sensitive today…my apologies.
Mommypundit on February 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Guys, it’s a Liberal Politician. They all profess to believe in God, but not what God has said, or what God has commanded.
The only god I can see they do believe in is Marx.
Snake307 on February 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Is any conservative or Palin supporter still urging Sarah to wait for 2016 because she has no chance to be POTUS in 2012?
technopeasant on February 5, 2009 at 12:26 PM
C’mon, this matters only if fetuses are human beings.
Akzed on February 5, 2009 at 12:26 PM
I think he has a different notion of what is human and what is innocent. Scary.
zmdavid on February 5, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Funny that this is from Geraghty’s “Campaign Spot” blog.
Folks, we have ourselves a
CommanderCampaigner-in-Chief who does not even realize the hypocrisy of his pandering statements.Brat on February 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM
So following Obamas logic,
God does not condone destroying life.
Obama supports destroying life.
God does not condone Obama.
I agree with both God & Obama.
portlandon on February 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Just words, just speeches. Obama never believes what he says. This man is an outrage.
izoneguy on February 5, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Wow, out of his own mouth he speaks his own condemnation.
Matthew 12:36-37
INC on February 5, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Is he saying There is no God? Or is he saying There is no God who exists that condones abortion? If the latter…I’m stunned at his stupidity in light of his first Executive Order! If the first, I’m terrified by his ignorance. Overall I’m speechless…
sabbott on February 5, 2009 at 12:31 PM
A-yup. You beat me to the punch.
rbj on February 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Say What????
He will say what he wants, to whom he wants, when he wants.
But you have no right to bring it up. Don’t bring up history, we are moving forward…Change then Hope…
right2bright on February 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM
its natural for the anti-christ to know what the real God stands for.
/sarc, kinda
jp on February 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Context: he’s talking about how Christians shouldn’t create fear by talking about terrorism and abortion. You know, those real root causes of 3,000 people getting killed on 9-11.
BTW: I heard that Obama said “I don’t know anything about the economy, but …” to some talking head interviewer the other day. Funny how I haven’t seen any howling in the media or SNL jokes about that.
New replacement for “Hail to the Chief”…
“Don’t know much about history, don’t know much about economy, but I do know that since you all love me, what a wonderworld it will be.”
drunyan8315 on February 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Uh, oh, Chrissy Hitchens isn’t gonna like the
separation of church and state“religiousity” of BHO and employing part of the first amendment: “[nor] prohibiting the free exercise thereof”Just a little thought.
Branch Rickey on February 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM
It has taken me this long to get my jaw up off the the floor. I feel like one of those robots in the Original Star Trek series that Kirk and Spock short circuit by saying one thing and then contradicting it.
More shallow than a puddle.
kingsjester on February 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM
“That isn’t a theological determination, but a scientific fact”
Exactly.
A unique DNA and gender identity are determined.
artist on February 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM
The Iranian translation:
‘I’ll never push the button’
Limerick on February 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Bho, have you checked the rop and how they feel about killing in the name of their god?
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letget on February 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Unfortunately, for President Barry and the libtards, that fetus isn’t a human being. It’s just a clump of tissue. And that baby that survives an abortion? It’s not a human being. It’s a nuisance or an inconvenience.
On the other hand, that course I took on “How to perform Clinton word-parsing” really seems to have paid off.
Mallard T. Drake on February 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Ahh…that clarifies it for me. I’m now at peace… The argument that fetuses are not humans is the most arrogantly stupid one that I have every heard. But when one goes into the abortion clinic to kill one’s child, one has to have something to hang on to. But one still has one’s consience talking to one years later when one figures out that the “fetus” left to develop becomes a baby which is a human…which logically tells one that it was a human all along!
sabbott on February 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Kill me. Don’t use that language.
Abby Adams on February 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM
PLEASE
Then what are we debating? Once that assumption is assumed, you are right of course. Abortion is MURDER.
So when does God put that soul in? When does that spark of consciousness begin? I myself cannot remember anything prior to being four and a half years old — when I could stand on a rock in my back yard and see over the fence and watch my neighbors tortoises eat lettuce. Maybe God doesn’t give us a soul with consciousness until our ability to remember starts (3 to 5 years). Maybe God gives us a pass on infanticide. Prove me wrong.
tommylotto on February 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Ah, but. . . It must be the case that while Obama claims to believe this, he nonetheless is not compelled to answer to that God.
DrStock on February 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM
He simply mispoke.
He meant to say “We know there is no God but Allah, who condones the killing of an innocent human being
DarkCurrent on February 5, 2009 at 12:39 PM
It makes Obama feel smarter than everyone else, when he talks in riddles, and creates his own inside joke. He’s basically saying he’s an atheist.
marklmail on February 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM
For Democrats … “innocent life” includes murderers and rapists on death row – who could be voting Democrat and GITMO prisoners who could be taught to vote Democrat also.
“innocent life” doesn’t include babies in the womb for a Democrat.
HondaV65 on February 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM
This is from the same guy who thought it was fine to let infants die if they had survived an abortion.
INC on February 5, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Then what are we debating? Once that assumption is assumed, you are right of course. Abortion is MURDER.
That’s not an assumption, it’s scientific fact. The “assumptions” come in when you start asking about ensoulment — but ensoulment doesn’t have anything to do with the science of life. Life exists when cells divide to multiply, and the cell in question is undeniably human, with unique human DNA and a full set of 23 pairs of chromosomes.
That’s why abortion is murder, regardless of ensoulment.
Ed Morrissey on February 5, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Just a slight addition :^)
Branch Rickey on February 5, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The obama administration is going to be a fumble (or two) per day…..lord help us.
jukin on February 5, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Will someone please ask Barry Hussein when the change happens that turns a “punishment” into “an innocent human being”?
ornery_independent on February 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM
That that depend on whether its a “human” fetuses or not, its not too hard to determine, except for pro-abortion liberals.
Maxx on February 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Links to Barack Obama’s votes on IL’s Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Obama’s 10 reasons for supporting infanticide
INC on February 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Maybe God wants to know what you pro-lifers have done personally to help overturn Roe V Wade instead of whine on an anonymous website.
Dave Rywall on February 5, 2009 at 12:43 PM
You mean like when Babs Boxer said it only becomes a baby when you bring it home from the hospital?
Rae on February 5, 2009 at 12:43 PM
What would Muhammad say?
Kini on February 5, 2009 at 12:44 PM
But is that life a human being once those cells begin to multiply? Life does not necessarily mean a human being. Would that make a miscarriage involuntary manslaughter?
For the record, I despise abortion and think it’s something that all women should be warned away from.
MadisonConservative on February 5, 2009 at 12:44 PM
I apply the abortion litmus test, any candidate that is pro-abortion does not get my vote or any of my money.
Maxx on February 5, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Are infidels considered “innocent”…?
LibTired on February 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Does he even have any idea what comes out of his mouth? Does he have any recollection of the things he’s said before and how they don’t mesh with the things he says later?
t.ferg on February 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM
You know what they say about assuming…..
CDeb on February 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Oh look, he’s back again to tell us American law and how our country could be better even though he lives in another one.
MadisonConservative on February 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM
WHAT.A.TOOL.
nickj116 on February 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM
what else could it logically be but a Human Life? Its alive, check, its got Human DNA with every detail for remainder of the Humans life, check. Its got 23 Chromosomes, the same number we do and will have for the rest of our lives….
it certainly is not, ‘non-life’, or monkey life for that matter, its a Human Life.
jp on February 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM
I can’t wait until he throws himself under the bus…. oh wait… he kinda sorta did that yesterday by admitting his “Daschle mistake”…. then qualified future “mistakes” by saying “this is the ‘first’ and I’m sure I’ll make more….”
CynicalOptimist on February 5, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Obama knows the MSM will not be diong a Compare/Constrast on him on this issue….ever. Maybe Fox News will, but most of the nation will be oblivous to this
jp on February 5, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Is it human DNA? If it is, what else could you call it but human a very small but growing human.
Maxx on February 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM
OT: Ed if you want more red meat
Obama’s new Presidential Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships head is Joshua DuBois who is being portrayed primarily as a former mainstream pastor.
However, Mr. DuBois is nothing more than an Ayers’ style agitator and a young version of Rev Wright. He received a degree in Political Science in 2003 and a masters in public affairs in 2005. He has worked for Charlie Rangel and Obama as a Senate aide.
He worked for several years for Sojourners, a black liberation theology community organizing group.
faraway on February 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM
MB4 on February 5, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Come on Mr. Ed. It doesn’t matter what Obama says, it is how it sounds when he says it, and how you feel when you hear him say it.
Skandia Recluse on February 5, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Rywall, who are you to say what God wants from us? And what do you know about what any of us have done to overturn Roe v. Wade? You know diddly about any of us.
drflykilla on February 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Mr Cryptic strikes again
econavenger on February 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM
And you are but a mere speck on the earth. What should be your fate?
faraway on February 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM
For the sake of argument, let’s say those cells split 4 times, and stop. Human DNA, but for whatever reason, the mitosis ends. It’s still microscopic. Is it a human being? Does it have rights?
MadisonConservative on February 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Sorry, some may fault me for drawing a distinction without a difference, but I connote the word negligent with, say, accidents resulting from carelessness.
Negligence represents a state of mind that falls short of recklessness and falls far short of intention. I see no negligence in the conduct of those who left surviving babies to die. Those people had no intention to help those babies. Rather, they made a conscious, intentional decision to leave them to die. That’s not negligence–that’s a callous disregard for human life that I find both chilling and ghoulish in Obama.
And that’s beyond debate.
BuckeyeSam on February 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Ed… you’re supposed to be a blogger because you have something insightful to say.
Not more boring columns.
Seven Seas on February 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Is Ed Wallis part of that group?
BuckeyeSam on February 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM
According to islamists, non-believers are not innocent.
The One probably knows this too.
IrishEi on February 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Tell you what. You get a full refund for what you paid to read this website. Then you can be less of a prick.
MadisonConservative on February 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM
I put 46 people in a room and we work for years on a big building project developing plans and raising money.
Finally, we have all the money, tools and plans in our hands as we walk out the door. Someone kills us all and takes our money and plans.
Is the project dead? Would it have lived?
faraway on February 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM
His lips are moving, and hes a lying POS. Thats really all anyone needs to know.
Viper1 on February 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Ed, was the “ensoulment” phrasing a h/t to Allah?
I would refer to the Biblical quotation (from which book, I don’t recall) “Before you were formed in the womb, I knew you.” To me, that translates that ensoulment takes place at conception.
Obama is just words, just speeches… an empty suit filled with and by Wright, Ayers, Frank Davis, etc.
Our only hope is that he remains in full in-over-his-head mode.
either orr on February 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM
To paraphrase John J. Sheridan “Well, as answers go, short, to the point, utterly useless, and totally consistent with what I’ve come to expect from
a VorlonObama.”crazy_legs on February 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM
MadCon,
Sevenseas is drowning in his own bolshoi. Like DRywall, he’s best ignored.
either orr on February 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Do any of my actions satisfy YOU:
1) Foster Family for infants until they are adopted?
2) Care for women who decide to keep their children (e.g. non-paid child care for them when they are working and/or attending classes; giving of my own money to provide diapers and clothing, etc. for low income women)?
3) Giving a non-judgmental shoulder to cry on for women who regret their abortion?
4) Giving a non-judgmental shoulder to cry on for women who have given their child up for adoption?
5) Providing protective shelter for women who are harassed and/or abused by husbands/boyfriends/family members because they won’t abort their baby?
6) March for Life; being informed on medical issues surrounding Life, etc.?
Oh DAVE RYWALL, are any of my ACTIONS good enough to satisfy your arrogance at the question
?
Branch Rickey on February 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Every innovation is an error, and every error leads to hell.
Tav on February 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM
The Council will be made up of 25 secular and religious leaders from across a range of faith traditions and ideological backgrounds, including some who did not support Obama’s candidacy. A number of high-profile Evangelical leaders are on the roster, including Joel Hunter, an Orlando-area megachurch pastor; Jim Wallis, founder of the progressive Sojourners magazine;
faraway on February 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Sojourners
faraway on February 5, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Someone forgot to remind him of one his executive orders last week….
Dubn8tr on February 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Is that the western definition of innocent or the Islamic definition, which means only a devout Muslim is innocent because anyone else is spreading mischief on the earth, I am all ears?
TrueBrit on February 5, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Hey… Obama’s editorial reminds me of the Music Man. Obama’s a con man trying to spook the public with trumped up fears.
Illinidiva on February 5, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Is it a human being? : yes
Does it have rights?: no, its dead.
Maxx on February 5, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I’m sure that statement from The Chosen One, like all others, has an expiration date.
GarandFan on February 5, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Reductio ad Absurdum argument.
Tav on February 5, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Waiting for the Press Secretary “clarification” in 3, 2, 1…
pseudonominus on February 5, 2009 at 1:12 PM
The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God”.
Obama is a fool.
Steve Z on February 5, 2009 at 1:14 PM
I don’t know which is more out of touch with prima facie reality – to pretend that several months after conception you do not have a human being or to pretend that a moment after conception that you do.
MB4 on February 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM
“We know there is no God who condones the killing of an innocent human being.”
Well, unless those innocent human beings happen to Amalekites. Then Yahweh says have at them.
“2 Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.” (1 Sam. 15:2-3).
This was apparently before God thought turning the other cheek was a good idea.
justfinethanks on February 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM
This single sentence makes my head hurt.
HornetSting on February 5, 2009 at 1:17 PM
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