Should Geithner go, too?

posted at 9:59 am on February 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

(Michael Ramirez, IBD)

Now that Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer have withdrawn from their Obama administration appointments, should Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner follow them out the door?  After all, Obama admitted that he made “a mistake” in appointing tax cheats to high public offices, saying, “I don’t want to send a message to the American people that there are two sets of standards, one for powerful people and one for ordinary folks who are working every day and paying their taxes.”  But doesn’t the continuing presence of Geithner show exactly that double standard?

National Review believes it does, and points out that Geithner’s violations were the most egregious of the three — and that having him run the IRS provides a new low in government hypocrisy:

Daschle’s negligence was gross, particularly for a party and an administration that have celebrated prostration before the taxman as a “patriotic duty.” But Daschle’s offenses, galling as they may be, are exceeded by those of Geithner. Indeed, of all the tax transgressions touching Obama’s circle, Geithner’s are the worst.

Not only did Geithner neglect to pay his taxes, he turned a buck by doing so—accepting payments from his employer for the very purpose of offsetting those taxes. When he took the money, he signed a statement promising to pay the taxes and then ignored his obligations—for years. Protected by a statute of limitations, he did not pay his 2001–02 taxes until his nomination made them a public issue.

If Daschle’s tax problems should bar him from managing the federal health-services bureaucracy and Killefer’s preclude her from scrutinizing the budget, how is it that Geithner’s transgressions—the worst of the lot—are insufficient to disqualify him from managing the same Internal Revenue Service whose attentions he evaded?

Obama erred in making his apology too expansive, as the double standard argument applies most to Geithner.  After all, neither Daschle nor Killefer would collect taxes from Americans, as Geithner will do, with the IRS reporting to him as Treasury Secretary.  Geithner’s presence will affront Americans who endure audits over the next few years and get adjudicated to their detriment.

Will Obama backtrack on Geithner?  Absent a huge push from the Senate and the media, I’d doubt it.  He’s been confirmed by a too-compliant Democratic majority, with the assistance of some spineless Republicans to boot.  Obama will hang onto Geithner, hoping that the storm over Daschle and Killefer will soon die out, and hope that his vetting team does a better job on the next round of appointees to second-tier positions.

That’s too bad, because it’s bad for America to have tax cheats occupying high positions, especially at Treasury.  Obama and the Senate kept saying that only one man could possibly be Treasury Secretary, but Obama has a perfectly good replacement on his team already in Lawrence Summers.  We know he can do the job because he has already served as Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton.  The only reason Summers won’t get the job is because of his misconstrued comments over gender and math education while at Harvard, which seems much less egregious and much less disqualifying than cheating on taxes … except, I guess, in the Era of Hope and ChangeTM.

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He should have NEVER been confirmed.

Disgraceful.

artist on February 4, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Tim Geithner should go, but I seriously doubt he gets sent packing.

moxie_neanderthal on February 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM

If Barry wants any real credibility, yes. However, he has that magic credibility which ignores facts, so probably the Geithner selection gets a pass.

Vashta.Nerada on February 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Of course he should go – should have NEVER been mentioned! But he probably won’t – and the circus acts continue…

mkosin on February 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Ogabe won’t back down and everyone knows it, getting rid of Geithner is a pipe-dream.

We have a clown occupying the White House, a fool who doesn’t know that frack he is doing and is going to get a lot of people killed because of it.

Bishop on February 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM

No!

He will be the thorn gift that keeps on giving.

katy on February 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Let’s keep him there. Millions of people can use him as their excuse for not paying taxes.

fogw on February 4, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Obama has a perfectly good replacement on his team already in Lawrence Summers. We know he can do the job because he has already served as Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton.

If Obama wants that to be the news tomorrow, along with the news that he has taken quick action to correct some early missteps, then he will dump Geithner.

Geithner was the first of the tax cheats, and for that reason (among others) he sticks right in the craw. People are not going to forget.

BigD on February 4, 2009 at 10:05 AM

The fish rots from the head down. Getting rid of Geithner is only treating the symptom, not the cause.

MarkTheGreat on February 4, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Yes, send him packing. Then he can sign a seven-figure book deal regaling us on all the hard work he did in his two-week stint as an Obama puppet.

JammieWearingFool on February 4, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Yes of course he should go. But idiots like Hatch approved him out of committee and he got confirmed. The GOP should have held the line at the committee level. Cheating on your taxes and committing fraud, and the GOP lacks the huevos to try to block that guy from running the Treasury?

Mr. Joe on February 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Geitner-step off and dont let the door hit you …

One rule for me and another for thee should be shoved down Obama’s throat until he understands it FULLY.

canditaylor68 on February 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Frankly, I think a lot of Americans will feel better about trying any trick in the book to reduce their tax bill, given the track record of the new head of the IRS, and Barry’s picks across the board are giving them examples of how to do it, so there’s always that.

Vashta.Nerada on February 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM

I suspect that Obama finds the whole episode extremely taxing, but not so much for the nominees.

moxie_neanderthal on February 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM

I saw Newt Gingrich talking about Geithners ploy to claim his kids summer camp as a business expense, (!) last night- If the media would start beating on this gem, they may have to encourage him to withdraw. Call your senators!

anniekc on February 4, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Should Geithner go, too?

HEY ED — I JUST GOT IT. THIS WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION!

BigD on February 4, 2009 at 10:08 AM

He’s been confirmed by a too-compliant Democratic majority

This whole group was lucky to ride in on the coat-tails of their Messiah. We’ll be lucky when they ride out the same way.

fiscallyconservative on February 4, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Ed, the media storm can only be fanned by the people.

Phoenician on February 4, 2009 at 10:08 AM

If a big enough stink is made Obama will throw him under the bus and drive the wheels over him. Call/write/email,fax each and every Representative, then do the same and contact the media. If enough people voice their displeasure watch Obama and company backtrack over him and he will suddenly find a sick Aunt that needs his attention!

nwsseeker on February 4, 2009 at 10:09 AM

He should go, and the clowns who voted for him should go.

Oh, and Charlie Rangel should go too.

rbj on February 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM

“I don’t want to send a message to the American people that there are two sets of standards, one for powerful people and one for ordinary folks who are working every day and paying their taxes.”

Cabinet of Exemption.

Another episode of “Barack’s Bullsh*t”

drjohn on February 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Not yet – I’ve already filled out my 1040DEM…

thebookkeeper on February 4, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Should Geithner go ??

Does a hobby horse have a wooden ass ??

moc23 on February 4, 2009 at 10:14 AM

He should go for being a tax cheat and an economic retard who will only prolong the recovery with his half-baked Keynesian notions.

flyfisher on February 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM

He lied to get elected, so why would he stop lying now that he’s The One?

But this is fun! Who knew that the roosting chickens were all hypocrites!

kirkill on February 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Mitch McConnels Fax Number is 1-202-224-2499 Tell him to call for Geithner to step down NOW!!!!!!

roninacreage on February 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM

More importantly, can Obama withdraw due to sheer self-admitted incompetency?

awake on February 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Geithner’s tax problems irk me, but what concerns me the most is the fact he did nothing to stop the Wall Street meltdown on his watch at the Fed. What did he do, if anything, and when did he do it? And why should he then run the “recovery” now?!

PattyJ on February 4, 2009 at 10:17 AM

“I don’t want to send a message to the American people that there are two sets of standards, one for powerful people and one for ordinary folks who are working every day and paying their taxes.”

This is the precise message he’s sending: “Taxes are for the Little People, not for us Washington Elites”.

But, hey, what do we know? We’re just bitter and clingy.

Vic on February 4, 2009 at 10:18 AM

well, yeah he should go… and fast!

MNDavenotPC on February 4, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Secretary Tim Geithner must go. Obama admitted that he made an error in judgment regarding Tom Daschle and he made the exact same error in judgment regarding Tim Geithner.

This Gangsta president is a disgrace.

sinsing on February 4, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Obama will do with Geithner what Bush did with Rumsfeld. Keep him around, against his own better judgement, until its far too late. Lets just hope Tim doesn’t create as large a mess as Don.

But regardless, conflicts of interest were never an issue for Bush, why should they be an issue now? Way to find your convictions in the foxhole guys.

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:20 AM

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Let these criminals hear from you.

roninacreage on February 4, 2009 at 10:20 AM

if i was Geithner, i would order an immediate audit on every single registered Democrat. i’m sure they would find trillions of $$$ in unpaid taxes which could put our budget back in the surplus territory. although i do admit he would be a complete hypocrite for doing it.

stormin1961 on February 4, 2009 at 10:20 AM

It’s not only the ethics involved…Geithner should go because he can’t effectively lead. He can’t ever gain the confidence of his subordinates in the Treasury because of what he’s done.

Leadership 101, folks…you must be able to be taken seriously in your job. You can’t be the office punchline.

James on February 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM

“… and hope that his vetting team does a better job on the next round of appointees to second-tier positions.”

It’s understandable that you presume the vetting team did not do a good job the first time, Ed, but there is little evidence that is so.

Dusty on February 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM

No – he’s a keeper! He’s useful as the poster child of a very dysfunctional administration.

Rockygold on February 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Kudlow suggested in the strongest possible terms (for him) that Geithner ought to resign, and that there were deep grumblings about his continuing on in the job. I was shocked at that. CNBC’s resident Obamaton, John Harwood, turned a deathly shade of pale. The pressure against Geithner is growing.

JiangxiDad on February 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Great post. FWIW I totally agree that Geithner’s transgressions are worse than Daschle’s. I’ve thought so for a few days now, and I’m glad this point is finally getting made so publicly.

Daschle’s thing with the imputed tax on perks, large though the amount may be, is at least consistent with behavior I recognize: accepting a gift/favor without whipping out the calculator every time to figure out how much it must have cost the benefactor.

To me, Geithner’s behavior is worse on a couple of levels. First, the tax issue: The tax is levied on direct money he made, so there’s no imputed tax questions and no out-of-the-box, “aggressively coordinated accounting” required to find out what Company X or Person Y spent on a driver, etc., in order to carry those numbers back to his own tax return. (BTW I freely concede I may be wrong and/or guessing on how some of this worked. :-)

Next, the fraud angle: Geithner took money knowing he would owe the tax, filled out the forms, and got his disbursements in hand, then pocketed the money. Collecting money under false pretenses is fraud in my book.

Ergo: If anyone in the administration or media is spinning the different outcomes of Geithner and Daschle (no matter how Daschle got out of the running) as some kind of ‘proportionate response’ (i.e., Geithner’s ‘in’ because his behavior was better than Daschle’s), then I’d say they have their ‘proportions’ backwards.

RD on February 4, 2009 at 10:22 AM

The Republicans didn’t understand that they still represent almost 1/2 the nation…he should have never been confirmed. Nothing could be easier then explaining that you won’t support a tax evader to head up the treasury dept…but they wimped out, now with Daschle they see that logic does prevail.

right2bright on February 4, 2009 at 10:23 AM

But regardless, conflicts of interest were never an issue for Bush, why should they be an issue now? Way to find your convictions in the foxhole guys.
ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Burning down the phone lines to the WH with your righteous indignation, huh?

Didn’t think so, after all “Bush did it too!”

Bishop on February 4, 2009 at 10:23 AM

So the guy who writes our tax law is a tax cheat, and the guy who will enforce and administer it is also a tax cheat. What’s all the fuss about?

forest on February 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Not so long ago, Democrats ran on the “culture of corruption” issue. Who knew that was actually a campaign promise?

Ed Morrissey is a writer at hotair.com.

+1

moxie_neanderthal on February 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM

After looking at the Drudge headline,
I think all these clowns should go :

Nancy Pelosi: Dumber than Soap

VIDEO:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hMJVXt09E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hMJVXt09E

Nancy Pelosi: Dumber than soap. Nancy claims that we lose 500 million American jobs each month we don’t pass her $1 trillion pork barell spending boondoggle.

Do these democrats have to prove their incompetence “every” single time they open their mouths.

Baxter Greene on February 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM

should he? yes.

will he? prolly not, as the attention span of the public, sadly, is about to move on …

those saying to write senators are mistaken — they voted, they’re done. a letter campaign to duh1, however, MAY be enough to have him fire up the big ol’ just bus for tim …
[!]

Buckaroo on February 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Every person in government should be audited and the tax cheats thrown in jail, including Obama.

How is it exactly that the fool lived in style for 20 years even though he hardly ever worked and when he did it was for smallish incomes? And of course, we have been told so many times that he and Michelle were also paying off those onerous student loans. Could there be some unreported income there? Of course, I’m not counting the 4 million books his handlers bought him in 2003-2004 as a way to funnel him big bucks. By that point, they had already made him illegally wealthy.

notagool on February 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I can hardly wait for the first court case where someone stands up and says “They don’t pay, why should I?”, a poor defense, but it will be a great headline.

right2bright on February 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM

But regardless, conflicts of interest were never an issue for Bush, why should they be an issue now? Way to find your convictions in the foxhole guys.

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Bush is not president. Let it go. You have got your man.

Johan Klaus on February 4, 2009 at 10:31 AM

No Republican should have voted for him. Republicans should not be afraid of public opinion polls about how popular Obama is. They should be worried about the voters back home.

izoneguy on February 4, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Again people! CALL, CALL, CALL!!!!!!!

Add Lindsey Graham to the list of calls, too!!!

bloggless on February 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Off topic but I don’t see a way to email Ed or AP on this site about this:

Apparently several states have new bills pending in regards to reaffirming states rights and sovereignty that have popped up in the last few weeks.

Vermont: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

Arizona: http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm

Washington state: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2009&bill=4009

Missouri apparently has one as well, House Resolution 212 that is being introduced today and has not been posted to their website yet

Oklahoma passed resolution 1089 back in June of last year:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=67229

Is this crackpottery or are states setting the stage for standing up to the Feds and/or leaving the union if they keep crapping on the constitution?

Sugarbuzz on February 4, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Johan Klaus on February 4, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I understand Bush isnt president anymore. I just find it interesting that many of the landmines Obama is walking through were already stepped on by Bush. When Bush was criticized for a mistake along these lines, (like keeping rummy), all blame was deflected by the community here.

And lets not forget, none of Obama’s mistakes thus far compare to the idea that going into Iraq at that point in time was the right thing to do. However, Bush gets the benefit of the doubt here.

All im saying is, given the fact it hasnt even been a month, that memories here are short.

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:35 AM

If Obama doesn’t want a tax protest, he had better send this guy packing. Some may jack up their W-4 exemptions to 15 to lessen the government’s take every month. Heck, if I lived in California that’s exactly what I would do. Why loan Ahnuld your cash in exchange for a worthless IOU? And how do we know Uncle Sam won’t be in that same position next year? If only 5% of Americans decided not to file their 1040 the impact would be huge. By keeping Geithner they are flirting with such a protest. Some are already planning to simply mail a photo of their bare ass instead of their 1040. I’m not kidding, this clown simply cannot be Treasury Secretary. Certain Americans are on the edge of revolt already. I sense this country is a tinderbox. Obama had better quit playing with matches.

Fire Geithner!

flyfisher on February 4, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Yes

ballz2wallz on February 4, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Every day that Geithner remains in office is a direct F*ck you! to the American people courtesy of the Obama administration.

This tax-cheating scumbag should have never been confirmed in the first place. The very fact that things have gotten to this point simply show how bad the corruption in our government has become.

It has become so corrupt that the Dems are no longer even hiding that they are a bunch of elitist bastards who if is wasn’t for the money in our wallets would happily throw us too….under the wheels of the Obama bus.

This whole thing is making me sick!

Scorched_Earth on February 4, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Geitner is in and will stay in, all this fuss over Daschle should have been raised over Geitner before his confirmation but it wasn’t. Unless something new comes up, he will be going nowhere.

Jvette on February 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Geitner is in and will stay in, all this fuss over Daschle should have been raised over Geitner before his confirmation but it wasn’t. Unless something new comes up, he will be going nowhere.

Jvette on February 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM

True, but there will always be an asterisk by his name.

right2bright on February 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM

If the Repubes had ANY ONIONS they would be pounding Obama on Geithner….but look: we had freakin’ REPUBES voting for that tax cheater, making it difficult to make noise now.

That’s what happens when you don’t act on principles Repubes.

Take down every single Repube who voted for Geithner.

What a disgrace.

ex-Democrat on February 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

So the guy who writes our tax law is a tax cheat, and the guy who will enforce and administer it is also a tax cheat. What’s all the fuss about?

forest on February 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Of course he should go but as forest said – “what’s the fuss?” Looks like tax cheating and politics is like bread and butter, especially among Dems. As Cantor said – No wonder the Dems don’t mind high taxes – they don’t pay theirs.

Imagine the fodder for ridiculing the Obama administration for the next 4 years. Whenever a Republican is caught with tax issues all they’ll have to do is invoke the Geithner/Holder exemption.

katiejane on February 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

He should, But will he?

Brat4life on February 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Of course he should go and of course he should never have even been confirmed (or nominated for that matter). But it’s too late now…he’s burrowed in like a starving tick. He’s supposed to be absolutely necessary because he’s a rare financial genius, according to genius who is our President. I think we’ll find out soon enough that people who can’t even fill out their taxes (or have an accountant do it for him) maybe aren’t all that bright. Then again, seeing how DC operates, maybe he is a genius.

AUINSC on February 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Scorched_Earth on February 4, 2009 at 10:37 AM

But getting bogged down in a war of choice wasn’t an FU at all right?

Placating the vocal extreme minority of conservatives on stem cell research (which didnt save any embryo’s from destruction by the way) wasn’t an FU to america?

I can go on.

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:52 AM

And lets not forget, none of Obama’s mistakes thus far compare to the idea that going into Iraq at that point in time was the right thing to do.
ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Please share with us your best case and worst case scenarios of Iraq and the world had we not removed Saddam. Please.

Patrick S on February 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Can he be removed after having been confirmed?

For maximum embarrassment to Zer0, I’d like to see Geithner go, but I don’t think it’ll happen.

Taxes for thee, but not for me!

TeeDee on February 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM

The most ethical administration EVAH

grapeknutz on February 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I am going to stop paying taxes and being all honest and junk. Maybe Obama will hire me then…

mjk on February 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Patrick S on February 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Its not about removing saddam so much as its about when we did it. The decision it do it in 2003, while we were already in the middle of a just war, was inadvisable at best. Regardless of the fact that any and all prior justification was found null and void, couldn’t we have waited until we had done a better job in taliban country?

Besides, the worst case scenario was (hind sight being 20/20), nothing. He had none of the weapons we were so scared of. The worst case scenario was that he stayed in power till he croaked and the Baath transfer of power might not have gone too well. All the facts being known today THAT was the worst case scenario. Losing blood and treasure preventing THAT situation? Bad idea. Terrible idea. One of the worst ideas ever.

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Let’s not let it die out. Write Obama and let him know this appointment can not stand. Remind him (nicely) about the hippocrisy. Send it a couple times a week.

tgillian on February 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

The fish rots from the head down

Truly. And let us not forget, Republicans like Linda Chavez were run out of DC for not paying SSI for a housekeeper. IF, (and I am seriously doubtful) the Republicans can locate a set of testicles, they should use this episode as a large club to push for tax reform, ie, flat tax or national sales tax.

And don’t bother posting that I’m dreaming, I’m aware that I am. Milton Freidman explained years ago why the income tax isn’t going away.

oldleprechaun on February 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I understand Bush isnt president anymore. I just find it interesting that many of the landmines Obama is walking through were already stepped on by Bush
ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Your boy won and Bush isn’t President anymore so I’ll use that infamous moonbat phrase I constantly hear…..
Get over it

Knucklehead on February 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Obama should do a restart of his term in office.

albill on February 4, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Knucklehead on February 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM

And let you guys pull an about face and spew phony outrage?

NEVARRRR!!!! =)

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 11:09 AM

So when does Pete Rose get a nomination bid?

TheHat on February 4, 2009 at 11:22 AM

On the other hand, for so long as he keeps Geithner around, he signals acceptance of the Turbo Tax Defense. That should come in handy in the new Socialist era.

james23 on February 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM

The real fight should have been over Geithner, not Daschle. But soft Republicans were too awed by Saint Barack to put up much of a fight a couple weeks ago.

A tax cheat in charge of the IRS. Come on. You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.

BardMan on February 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Unbelievable that Pres Obama seems to find mostly liars & tax cheats for his administration. Didn’t he say he’ll get us “change”? Or was that “short-changed”.

Chessplayer on February 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Yes, Geithner should go! It’s an embarrassment that a tax cheater was approved to run the IRS. Embarrassment by Democrats as well as Republicans I might add.

Keemo on February 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Now that Tom Daschle and Nancy Killefer have withdrawn from their Obama administration appointments, should Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner follow them out the door?

God, yes. But it will never happen. And we should remember those Republicans who voted for him and Eric “Pardon me” Holder.

irishspy on February 4, 2009 at 11:32 AM

It’s understandable that you presume the vetting team did not do a good job the first time, Ed, but there is little evidence that is so.

Dusty on February 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM

“Little evidence” other than the substantial evidence documenting their unfitness that’s already been uncovered on Richardson, Geithner, Daschle, Killefer, etc. Right?

Can he be removed after having been confirmed?

TeeDee on February 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Certainly. As with any other member of Bambi’s cabinet, he serves at the pleasure of the president. All it would take is a phone call from Bambi, telling Timmy that the public reaction to his obvious tax cheating has become a “distraction” the president can no longer afford, and we’d be hearing about how Timmy has regrettably offered the president his resignation so that he can spend more time with his family (or one of the other usual BS excuses typically offered in this type of situation).

AZCoyote on February 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM

A tax cheat running the IRS.

Isn’t that special?

Kind of like Joseph Kennedy running the SEC 75 years ago.

molonlabe28 on February 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Besides, the worst case scenario was (hind sight being 20/20), nothing. He had none of the weapons we were so scared of. The worst case scenario was that he stayed in power till he croaked and the Baath transfer of power might not have gone too well. All the facts being known today THAT was the worst case scenario. Losing blood and treasure preventing THAT situation? Bad idea. Terrible idea. One of the worst ideas ever.

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Pretty much what I expected there, amigo. Ok…History Lesson Time: Before we went in, UN Inspectors, in fact Bush Hater Hans Blix himself, reported that Saddam would not account for tens of thousands of liters of anthrax that THEY had catalogued (meaning physically accounted for) before being booted out during the Clinton Admin. If you are capable of looking back through your BDS Fog, you’ll recall that this was not long after perhaps 1/100th of 1 liter of anthrax in our US Mail paralyzed the US for weeks, and killing people just like you and me. Had he accounted for them, the sanctions might have been lifted. This failure to comply with the “Last Chance” Resolution 1441 resulted in the invasion.

You may also recall that the UN Weapons Inspectors were not supposed to be searching for weapons; they were supposed to witness the destruction of those weapons that Saddam admitted to having as part of the 1991 ceasefire agreement. The fact that we didn’t find something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I can hide ten sand pebbles in my backyard and you would never find them, especially if a few of your inspectors were telling me in advance where you were looking next. This was a complaint of some of the UN inspectors in fact.

Therefore, worst case is he hands over the untraceable anthrax to interested third parties who easily mules a few hundred liters across our porous southern border and distributes it to twenty or thirty of our more populous areas…and then the fun begins.

Patrick S on February 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Although he can certainly do some harm, policywise, I am OK with him continuing to be the focus of thinking Americans’ incredulity. He is a poster boy for Ogabe’s bad judgment and total disregard for this country’s future.

SKYFOX on February 4, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Patrick S on February 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Given that reasoning, why haven’t we invaded russia to find those missing suitcase bombs?

ernesto on February 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I get audited, first thing I’m saying to the auditor is “Geithner”.

GarandFan on February 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM

of course.

dogsoldier on February 4, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Actually, this gives me an idea to settle our deficit issues: subpeona Obama’s Contacts list and Facebook Friends list and have the IRS audit all of them. Between recovering the unpaid taxes and the fines, we’ll clear out the national debt in no time!

StargazerA5 on February 4, 2009 at 12:08 PM

What’s good for the gander is good for the gander.

Halli Casser-Jayne
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

The CJ Political Report on February 4, 2009 at 12:23 PM

It’s interesting that the only one of the three that made what looked like a small, honest mistake is the one that pulled out first (Killefer).

- Daschle had worn out his welcome in “the club”, had made too much money as a lobbyist as a non-lawyer in a law firm, and had made too many bold public statements on taxes for what was essentially a purely political cabinet post … plus opening up the “limousine liberal” tag to the nth degree wasn’t helpful either

- Geithner had the advantage of 1) being first, 2) being viewed as “non-political” and 3) being viewed as a strong candidate by the markets. Essentially very few people wanted to rock that boat given the alternatives, even though his tax cheating was as egregious as Daschle’s (if not more so)

Let Geither focus on the job, groom a successor, and be the first one out the door in 18 months…

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phreshone on February 4, 2009 at 12:28 PM

He is a poster boy for Ogabe’s bad judgment and total disregard for this country’s future.

SKYFOX on February 4, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Yes. and use him to put a thumb in eyes of Barry and Nancy in 2010…

phreshone on February 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Geithner should go but he won’t go by himself. This is a golden opportunity for conservative activism. Finally, a PAC filed a suit to ask Obama to deport his illegal alien aunt. The same should be done here. Get a PAC and file a suit against Geithner or pressure IRS in someway to punish him for his transgressions.At least develop a website FireGeithner.com and get a public petition.Even better start a citizens protest demanding Geithner’s removal from office or otherwise the citizens will pay no taxes.

Let’s not leave this to the GOP politicians. This is a grassroots battle. Raise enough stink that Geithner becomes so toxic that Obama has to ask him to go.

Let’s roll, people!

promachus on February 4, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Not only should he go, but he needs to be prosecuted.

All of those who show a pattern of cheating on their taxes, need to do time.

If not, we should all find a way to avoid paying our own.

Whats good for the Goose and all that.

HonestConservative on February 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Do these democrats have to prove their incompetence “every” single time they open their mouths.

Baxter Greene on February 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I certainly hope so…pass the popcorn, please.

ladyingray on February 4, 2009 at 12:50 PM

“He’s been confirmed by a too-compliant Democratic majority, with the assistance of some spineless Republicans to boot.” Repubs like Orrin Hatch.
If this scary guy, (who looks like he drinks human blood for breakfast), is the ONLY person who can head the IRS, we are in deeper do-do than I thought.
Oh but I’m mean, he SAID he was sorry.

Christine on February 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM

I’ve lost count
Richardson
Geithner
Daschle
Killefer…..
Who’s got the list?

right wing chicky on February 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Why has no one brought up Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel as responsible for these debacles? Who’s vetting, Charlie Rangel?

wepeople on February 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I think Obama lurves the fact that Geithners ears are almost bigger than his own.

anniekc on February 4, 2009 at 1:29 PM

President Obama has has used up his allotment of mea culpas that are allowable within a 60 day period.

He must now wait until April 1st before he can attempt to fool the public again.

Yoop on February 4, 2009 at 1:34 PM

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