The Hollywood stimulus; Update: Hollywood loses its pork; Update: Vitter opposed?
posted at 2:30 pm on February 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
During the Great Depression, Hollywood responded with feel-good musicals and inexpensive entertainment for a nation mired in economic distress. The studios made money, people had a chance to escape their woes for a few hours at minimal cost, and private industry provided employment outside of the government dole. They mostly stayed out of politics — mostly — and thrived without subsidies until World War II and the eventual economic recovery.
Now Hollywood, with its astronomical salaries and budgets, faces a new economic crisis. What do they do? Ask for a bailout from their political allies — and get it:
The Senate bill includes a tax break worth up to $246 million over 11 years for investors in bigger-budget movie projects that don’t necessarily qualify for incentives currently. The provision is backed by firms like the Walt Disney Co., and the industry trade group the Motion Picture Association of America, according to aides and lobbyists.
Broadly speaking, the Senate bill includes a one-year extension through 2009 of a provision enabling companies to write off 50 percent of the cost of equipment placed in service during that year, same as in the House Ways and Means version. But the Senate bill amends the definition of “qualified property” to include “certain motion picture film or videotape,” bringing the cost of the Senate provision to $5.32 billion, up from the House’s $5.07 billion version.
Companies that use the tax break would then forfeit the right to use the existing incentive, which allows companies to deduct 100 percent of production costs up to $15 million. That provision is backed by groups such as the Directors Guild of America and is aimed at keeping smaller productions from relocating to foreign countries; it was extended as part of the $700 billion financial rescue plan in October.
But a problem arises for pictures that cost $30 million or more, which the option to instead use bonus depreciation attempts to resolve.
So we are going to provide a $250 million tax subsidy to the motion picture industry? This doesn’t employ anyone; it just gives an accelerated depreciation on equipment. Nor does the entertainment industry need much help to achieve profitability. All they need to do is produce better movies, and perhaps start reining in costs rather than seeking tax cuts for big-budget spectacles.
This isn’t a stimulus. It’s a payoff for the political support Hollywood provides the Democrats. Worse, it looks like a way to give film producers a boost in extending the liberal message that really needs little prodding already from Tinseltown.
The Republicans have targeted this provision in an upcoming Senate amendment. Let’s hope they succeed.
Update: A rare piece of good news. Tom Coburn’s amendment to strip this provision from the stimulus passed, but just barely, at 52-45. I’ll look for the yeas and nays to see which Democrats were too embarrassed to vote no.
Update: Below are the yeas and nays. Note the lone Republican who voted to protect the Hollywood subsidy:

What the heck was David Vitter thinking?
The Democrats who supported the amendment, thus rejecting the Hollywood subsidy, are mostly moderates with a track record of some fiscal sense. The most hilarious exception is Robert Byrd’s nay vote, belying his reputation as the Senate’s Pork King. What happened — did the film industry refuse to rename the town Byrdwood?










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The actors make millions, demand we pay more in taxes, then get a tax break?
Is it just a coincidence that about 95% of Hollywood supports the dems?
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Great. Now Michael Moore can use the money to have the buffet installed at his house.
perroviejo on February 3, 2009 at 2:33 PM
And every day a revolution seems more palatable…
MadisonConservative on February 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I pledge to fight the bailout. I pledge.
bloggless on February 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM
As Goebbels would attest had he not been reduced to a pile of charcoal, any good national socialist movement needs a robust and enthusiastic propaganda arm.
Blacklake on February 3, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Nor does the entertainment industry need much help to achieve profitability. All they need to do is produce better movies, and perhaps start reining in costs rather than seeking tax cuts for big-budget spectacles.
Ed, you may as well try speaking Mandarin Chinese to a Columbian peasant. It’s just not their language.
SKYFOX on February 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I thought they already got a bailout with lower tax rates on movies made in the USA?
Harpoon on February 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Maybe congress can ask why they film movies and TV shows (X-Files) in Canada. Hint: American tax policy is punitive and US Unions are, well, you know. Cut taxes here and reel in union requirements, then you don’t have to offer any more incentives.
perroviejo on February 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM
STDs,Acorn,Global Warming….Now, we have to bail out those overpaid, overadored, bloated asshats in Hollywood?
Oh, hell no.
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Was this stimulus request supported by the Film Actors Guild?
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Payoff.
I’m sure this will go over well with the taxpayers, especially after all the recent layoffs. Give it another week, and there will be taxpayers with torches on the mall.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM
How about a salary cap for actors and directors. As well as studio executives.
This just once again shows the fallacy of the income tax code, when whoever’s in charge gets to jigger it around to reward their friends.
rbj on February 3, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Anyone who listens to a hollywood celebrity and takes them seriously needs to have their head shoved up their ass. This after having their head removed from their ass. Then it needs to be shoved back up so that it’s an overt act!
sabbott on February 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Shouldn’t Congress be hauling the studio execs up before a few committees to explain their private jets, mansions, limos and vacation homes?
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM
government sponsored propaganda machine, is that bad ?
runner on February 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Can I now refer to Matt Damon and co. as government lackeys?
VolMagic on February 3, 2009 at 2:43 PM
No kidding. It’s getting ridiculous. One thing after another…
CP on February 3, 2009 at 2:43 PM
the_nile on February 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Do we get to chastise HW salaries for greed the same way we castigate Wall Street? That might be a bonus here.
eaglewingz08 on February 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Clooney is making a movie about Hamdan v. Bush
jp on February 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Actually, a better example would be an actual quote from a hero of the Left. And as luck would have it, I just happen to have the perfect one:
rvastar on February 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM
The notion of declaring a depreciation on film equipment is a total sham! No production company actually owns the equipment it uses. Cameras, lights, sound recording equipment – all of it is rented. Film and videotape are consumables, not capital expenditures. And things like specially built sets and props are one-offs – meaning that they generally don’t get recycled for use in other productions.
Give an effin’ break!
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM
otherwise known as F.A.G.
jp on February 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Er, Give ME an effin’ break!
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Yep, but I prefer “big government stooges”.
It’s kind of funny that rich entertainment people like to think of themselves as rebels and non-conformists, but guess what Matt Damon? You and the other friends of Obama are “the Man” now and traditional people are the rebels.
forest on February 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM
$250M over 11 years with a slight change to tax treatment is not a bail out or a hand out. Keep your pants on Ed… there are more important (and far worse) things going on.
lexhamfox on February 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Free movie tickets for everyone… because we just won’t pay for most of the crap they put out.
Why not? I wouldn’t pay anything for a Detroit-made car either.
Greg Toombs on February 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Subsidize it.
That’s always the answer.
lorien1973 on February 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM
give me that much money and i could start a real movie company that made actual bleeping money
Defector01 on February 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Every day we learn another dirty little secret. No wonder Obambi wants this passed quickly.
ctmom on February 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Within 20 years technology will have reached the point where digitally created actors and digitally created voices will be indistinguishable from live actors.
MarkTheGreat on February 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Shut up and send in more taxes. It is your patriotic duty to help put out the liberal propaganda.
And because the Hollywood group is putting out such good propaganda, they DESERVE to have private jets, make millions per one picture, and so on.
Because they are better than you. Smarter than you. Cooler than you.
You live to support them, serf. That is your purpose. Now get with the program or we’re gonna have to, you know, jail ya or something.
Alana on February 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM
lexhamfox:
That’s not the point. If the language of the bill is as broad as the article suggests – “a provision enabling companies to write off 50 percent of the cost of equipment placed in service during that year” – it would mean that a production company could write off the same equipment rented in successive productions in successive years.
It’s a huge scam that targets people (Congress) who don’t really understand how production financing works.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Yes, and the stage artists that were on the government dole would often put on pro-FDR/pro-New Deal shows that would attack the Deal’s opponents directly or indirectly. Now that’s spread to Hollywood, which was really doing that before this crap sandwich.
amerpundit on February 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I guess my question is-was this part of the “tax cuts” that the Dems kept harping on in interviews that they “inserted into the bill to please Republicans, and yet could not figure out why the Republicans were not happy? Well dur.
canditaylor68 on February 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM
That, and Vancouver is beautiful. I remember reading about BSG filming some scenes in LA to simulate Caprica, and apparently it was a big drain on finances. Many shows are quite happy to stay in BC.
And I have to admit, they do have some good actors up thataway too.
Anna on February 3, 2009 at 2:53 PM
there’s so much money to be made in HOllywood if they’d just make certain types of movies. Look at the cash cow that Fireproof, Giants and Passion of the Christ turned out to be.
There are some stories in the bible that with the right budget would make for unreal movies. Something like King David would be awesome.
jp on February 3, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Screen Actors Guild, I’m sure.
amerpundit on February 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Uh, can we ask Matt Damon, Julia Roberts, Ashley Judd, Leonardo DiCaprio and George Clooney to stop using private jets and stop throwing fancy parties then?
terryannonline on February 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Cue the Christian Bale remix….
“What don’t you fu*kin’ understand?”
Conservative_SAHM on February 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM
So my money is going to pay anti-american freaks like Jessica Alba, $20,000,000 to make another flop? What a disgrace.
marklmail on February 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Yes. Next!
Mr_Magoo on February 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM
NO FRACKING WAY!!!!
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM
…without the embarrasment live actors cause by being themselves in public.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Sorry masta, my mistake masta, I won’t do it again masta…can I shine your shoes masta?
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM
This is a no brainer for Congress.
This is for a Congress with no brains.
Same difference.
Mr_Magoo on February 3, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Make their mansions boarding houses!!!
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 2:57 PM
No $hit. But, she will look good doing it.
saiga on February 3, 2009 at 2:57 PM
They’ll be programmed to be liberal when they do their digital interviews about their next movie.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Awww, you almost got it right, each of them have a guest house…that is where we put the Gitmo detainees.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Holy Crap, Bat Man. I don’t want to pay for you!
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 2:59 PM
No doubt about it. I’m having Tom Daschle do my taxes this year. I do not want to pay for this crap.
Ronnie on February 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM
What? Do the laws of economics get suspended for liberals industries? It is a tax break on the costs of production. Because of this tax cut, more movies will get made. More grips, gaffers and electrician will get employed. The economy will get stimulated. Can’t you find a legitimate issue to complain about?
tommylotto on February 3, 2009 at 3:01 PM
This is an absolute outrage.
WisCon on February 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM
These are those “green collar” jobs that we’ve heard so much about. Hollywood is all about recycling… recycling the same movies over and over again.
rw on February 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Do any of you right wing nut jobs know just how expensive breast implants are????????? Somebody has got to pay for them and it might as well be us.
bloggless on February 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Was
Actually, F.A.G is Famous Actors Guild.
ladyingray on February 3, 2009 at 3:09 PM
WE CANNOT LET THIS PART OF THE BILL GO THROUGH!!!
He said in all caps!!!
You’re telling me that we’re pissed and we tell Citibank to not take a jet they ordered 2 years ago (because they took the bailout) but are jiggy with Cameron Diaz getting over 20 million to do the voice for a Shrek animation while Hollywood gets a bailout. If we let this happen we’re weak and “should” lose.
They’re hypocrites! If you follow the link to the article there’s a FreeChoiceAct.org ad that runs which is a joke because Hollywood is defying unions right and left by filming in Canada and Mexico.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 3:09 PM
tommylotto writes: “It is a tax break on the costs of production.”
If that’s what it says it is, then I don’t have a huge problem with it. But the article calls it an accelerated deduction for capital expenditures.
Let’s be perfectly clear: FILM PRODUCTION COMPANIES DO NOT OWN OR PURCHASE CAPITAL. EXCEPT FOR CONSUMABLES, THEY RENT EVERYTHING THEY USE.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 3:12 PM
I have a friend in the Special Effect Industry. Academy Award winner. He says the waste in Hollywood productions would make you sick. Producers constantly try to keep projects in budget and the performers and directors and tech people take the easy way out by throwing money at the project.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Thank, Henry ‘I’ll investigate Republicans forever!’ Waxman – (D (whatelse?)-La La Land)
SeniorD on February 3, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Obama lambasted the banking bigwigs for taking their millions from the bailout, would he treat Tom Hanks and other mega-stars the same way when they took their $20,000,000 paychecks out of this package?
29Victor on February 3, 2009 at 3:27 PM
To do a live cast of a performer (registration in alginate or silicone material)/cast it in a plaster of paris like material and do the gel devices for the characters appearance in the production can cost 15-20 thousand bucks. It’s no more than a couple hundred bucks of special effects material (I use it myself for my artwork) and a can be done in 20-30 manhours.
Why does it cost that much? Because we’re willing to pay 12 bucks for the ticket and another 20 bucks for you and the wifey-po to get the big gulp, bucket of popcorn and a box of Jujubees. Down the road we’ll watch the same movie at home after dropping 32 buck on the Blur Ray version of the DVD.
We are funding our own demise!
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM
DAMMIT Blue Ray
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Thanks, Ed, more grist for my fax mill. You report; I fax. :)
petefrt on February 3, 2009 at 3:30 PM
The chicago way.
jukin on February 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM
WHAT???
paying liberal TRAITORS so they can produce
MORE pro islamic terrorist CRAP
Bull crap
i suggest we email a target list to osama bin laden
and put a bullseye on hollywood,..
jcila on February 3, 2009 at 3:35 PM
How could the Democrats not support their biggest donors and loudest shills. I’m sure they’re taking it right off the top.
davo on February 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Actually I am working on corporate taxes right now and all this does is extend what I get to do with my firms assets to certain properties and activities of the film industry. It is an amazingly small amount against what ends up being spent in production (and generated revenue). I would urge you to look at the provision in full and think about what articles they would actually keep long enough to depreciate. I think it ends up being more fair and in line with other businesses.
I don’t think many of the comments here screaming about liberal film stars know what this actually means.
lexhamfox on February 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM
As long as the star material get the salaries they’re getting, nothing anyone says will convince me that they need a single red cent for anything out of our taxes.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Replace the tax breaks for Hollywood with pay caps for celebrities.
petefrt on February 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Here’s the obligtory comment wondering about the impact of this new virtual-actor technology enhancing their embarrassing behavior.
And porn.
Greg Toombs on February 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM
lexhamfox:
My point is a little different. Major capital investments (analogous to durable goods orders in the manufacturing sector) are rarely undertaken by film production companies. Instead, they rent from the companies that innovate and produce the capital goods – like Panavision, Arriflex, Mole Lighting, etc. – but which do not do any film production of their own.
But yes, I would like to see the language of the bill before I pronounce final judgment.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM
When was the last time liberal Holy-wood produced a movie worth the $50 it takes for a family of four to go watch? The price of tickets, snacks, drinks, etc. are almost up to the same level as
mercenaryprofessional sports.SeniorD on February 3, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Or an “excessive profits” tax on actors.
What are the actors going to demand from Washington when they begin to be replaced by CGI actors?
29Victor on February 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM
The article states:
My understanding after reading the article is that the asset placed in service by the motion picture producers is not just the raw film stock used to shoot the film but the actual final finished film which includes all of the costs of production and may have costed any where from $20 million to $100 million or more to produce. That is why the Senate amendment would hike the cost to Treasury up to $5.32 billion. That was also why the 50% depreciation might be a better deal than the 100% write off up to $15 million for bigger budget films.
This is a big incentive to make movies now, as oppose to later. If you have a script and you are contemplating green lighting it, this tax break is a great incentive to go forward with production now as oppose to sitting on your hands. It incentivizes the studios to start hundreds of millions of dollars of film projects now during this recession and here in the US. Explain to me exactly how that is a bad thing…
tommylotto on February 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM
The bad thing is the socialist propaganda they spew out. Let’s face it: McCarthy was right! BTW I heard that January was a near record or record month in box-office revenues. Now why do they need help?
Christian Conservative on February 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Let rich Hollywood types foot the capitol for new projects and not the US Taxpayers.
Do I now own part of Hollywood like Obama owns part of Citigroup? Can I be like Claire McCaskill and tell Tom Hanks he’s unAmerican to take a signing bounus? Do I get to say if John Travolta gets to keep one of his many aircraft or should he his personal fly in ranch/home/airport. Where is the liberal class envy required when comparing we unwashed masses to the rich?
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 4:24 PM
should he “sell”…
Damn I’m stupid!
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM
tommylotto:
Your broad interpretation of the language is in contrast to lexham’s narrow interpretation. I don’t think that the “finished film” material can be stretched to include all of the costs of production. Release prints fall under the distribution side, anyway, not production.
Again, I’m not necessarily against a deduction for production costs, if they call it that. I was simply taken aback by the notion that film production companies could possibly write off a percentage of equipment rentals as capital depreciation. That smacks of a scam.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Aren’t these the people the liberals are always complaining about as “The Rich” that get all the tax breaks and need to pay “their fair share”?
kthomas8268 on February 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM
When I read this headline, I threw up in my mouth a little.
I want subsidy for my movie ticket prices so I can see the movies these egomanicas “make” for my entertainment.
The last movie ticket I bought (last week) was $7.00. For a matinee seat.
ladyingray on February 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I’m really looking forward to the next wave of movies and TV shows featuring greedy corporate villains out to get rich at the expense of the little guy. And if some clever Hollywood scribe decides to make his villainous corporation get rich by stealing “stimulus” money? That would be some sweet, rich, milk chocolate hypocrisy there.
Doctor Zero on February 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Time for an “excess profits tax” on the production studios and distributors!
petefrt on February 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM
America! America! F___ yeah!
UltimateBob on February 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM
I shouldn’t have failed to mention that the film industry already has a huge de-facto tax break in that it is exempt from the FSLA, at least for non-union work. I never worked in any other business where one was expected to toil for 36 hours or more at a stretch without overtime pay.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 5:08 PM
I’m gonna need more ammo.
Jaibones on February 3, 2009 at 5:19 PM
OK so the rentals are not impacted but the other equipment is. How is this any different from my EDP and furniture?
Seriously, the outrage here is pretty pathetic. Any other industry it would not get mentioned. Its a tax adjustment with a minor impact $250M over how many years?
Look at what tech companies get… or internet publishing? I would venture that Hollywood is one of the few US industries that actually generates cash at home and from overseas and pays higher taxes than most other industries per $ of revenue.
As I mentioned earlier… Ed should be concentrating on more important things. It really is silly to get up in arms over this.
lexhamfox on February 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Better question, did Byrd even know what he was voting for?
GarandFan on February 3, 2009 at 5:37 PM
lexhamfox:
Again, my issue is that production companies have very little in the way of capital expenditures. Even their production offices and telephones are often rented. Taking the article’s description of the bill at face value, it just struck me as dishonest.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM
When you figure it out Ed, be sure to let us know.
Hog Wild on February 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Two, Vitter and Voinovich…I think the shock made you miss Ohio…
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM
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