Minnesota Recount: Court gives Coleman hope
posted at 4:34 pm on February 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Norm Coleman got some badly-needed good news from the election contest. The three-judge panel ruled that almost 4800 previously rejected absentee ballots should get counted, opening up a large enough number that could conceivably lift Coleman over Al Franken in vote totals:
Nearly 4,800 rejected absentee ballots may be considered in the Senate recount trial, according to a ruling from the three-judge panel hearing the dispute between Republican Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken.
The court order indicates that all absentee ballots that complied with state law should be counted, along with those where errors occurred through no fault of the voter.
But the order limits Coleman to presenting evidence on those ballots specifically disclosed to the Franken legal team by January 22.
If I read this correctly, it provides a double benefit to Coleman by restricting the scope of the allocation to those ballots Coleman specifically flagged. The Coleman team had presented arguments initially on uncounted, rejected absentee ballots from counties most favorable to the Republican, and later enlarged to encompass a “count them all” strategy. The panel’s decision to restrict the restoration to their original scope means that the state will count the most favorable of the rejected ballots.
That presents other problems on the likely appeal if Coleman overtakes Franken. Like the initial recount, it appears to treat some ballots differently than others based not on statute but the whims of the political campaigns. That would put the election on a collision course with Bush v Gore and the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution in federal court. It makes the result less likely to stand, and perhaps makes a run-off election an option if the federal courts determine that all of the errors have permanently poisoned the original vote.
Of course, an appeal assumes that Coleman can overtake Franken. With 4,800 new ballots in a three way race, assuming Dean Barkley got 15%, Coleman would need to split the remaining ballots 53.3% to 46.7% for Franken. That becomes less if the election contest agrees with Coleman on the double-counted ballots issue, perhaps down to 52/48, both doable in the more Republican counties, but not assured. As we have seen, the absentee ballots are, in the words of Forrest Gump, like a box of chocolates; you never know what you’re going to get until it’s too late.
Still, this makes Coleman more likely to gain some votes, and if he can win on the double-counting issue, he may be in range to retake the lead.
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Just give the victory to Franken, make the Moonbatitization™ of Minnesota complete so I can justify the cost of my bunker to the wife.
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 4:37 PM
It doesn’t depend on the votes.
It depends on who has the most money and is most willing to do illegal things.
In other words, Coleman doesn’t have a chance.
notagool on February 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM
What a cluster-f*ck. You’d think we’d be able to get this right the first time.
nukemhill on February 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Isn’t Coleman running against a tax dodger too?
fogw on February 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Make Minnesota vote again.
danking70 on February 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM
I figure this will be resolved just in time for the next election…
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM
false hope?
Drunk Report on February 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Oh man, how loud is the liberal moaning going to be if Coleman actually wins this thing?
Bill Scrunty on February 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM
I keep having to remind myself that this has been brought to us by the state that elected Jesse Ventura as governor.
SWLiP on February 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Look for
the mediaFranken’s lawyers to claim “not fair!”perroviejo on February 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I could have swore any possible “run-off” election couldn’t take place until the 2010 general election cycle. Unlike New Hampshire in 1975 (which is presumably the model), Minnesota provides a Senate vacancy be filled by appointment until the next general election.
steveegg on February 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Go ahead Al. Say something funny.
perroviejo on February 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Were I a resident, I would be running a petition to demand a re-vote. With all of these half-applied rules, how can anyone be confident that an accurate count will be done?
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Tax dodger in like 12 different states.
Enoxo on February 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Close, just looked it up and they say 17 states…at least.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Hopefully military absentee ballots.
forest on February 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM
It not about the votes…….it’s WHO counts the votes that important.
grapeknutz on February 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Maybe Barry called him about a certain HHS job coming open…
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Sheesh, Ed. I thought when this all started you said the recount was going to go along swimmingly.
Matticus Finch on February 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM
2 years or 6?
MarkTheGreat on February 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM
“I’m sleazy enough, I’m crazy enough, and %$3@*&(^#$@!&*^%$%#@*(&^&!@#&^%!@*$%#!&#$@$%^@ people like me.”
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM
this ougtaa get real darn good
First al – frankenstien will scream that you cant count THOSE VOTES..
No only the ones I Wanted..
so i can win..
No matter what the people said
No matter about what is rigth..
you see this is the problem with the democrats..
they screw the system in their favor
thereby ensuring they win again and again..
Until someone throws a wrench into their wicked schemes
I say this..
1. how many people were registered to vote?
2. how many were alive on the day the ballots were mailed out
3. how many were returned
4. count them all and make 3 piles
a. for coleman
b. for frankenstine
c, for other candidates
d all of the ballots for a + b + c must == total number of voters..
Else something is crooked..
and with the democrats
that is GUARANTEED..
jcila on February 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Minnesota is still the dumbest state in the Union. Minnesota still needs to find itself another country. But at least there’s hope that the bucktoothed moron, Franken, won’t be in the Senate.
Percy_Peabody on February 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Minnesota is still the dumbest state in the Union.
Percy_Peabody on February 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Smart enough not to have you as a state citizen.
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM
What a joke.
Coleman lost.
Get over it.
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Ed, This ruling shouldn’t invoke Bush v. Gore because the ballots would be included because the ballots would be included only if they met the 4 criteria.
In Bush v. Gore, SCOTUS ruled against Gore because the Florida Supreme Court ignored Florida’s election law, thereby invoking the Equal Protection Clause.
LFRGary on February 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM
We have put men on the moon,created an artificial heart,shot satellites into space that can photograph our solar system….Yet we cannot get the State of Minnesota to count pieces of paper with little marked boxes.
This is sad.
portlandon on February 3, 2009 at 5:02 PM
What’s this cost? An election redo has got to be less expensive.
WashJeff on February 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Get over it.
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I’m with ya, these legal procedures we have to put up with, ugh! Due process, laws, rights; sooooo last century.
Now North Korea and Iran, those peeps know how to do an election.
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Can I take a ride in your time machine?
fogw on February 3, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Yeah, this whole legal process thing is so overrated. Let’s just declare Franken the winner and ignore Coleman’s rights. That way Daily Kos will be happy.
amerpundit on February 3, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Do you ever take the advice that your username provides?
MadisonConservative on February 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM
In FL, absentee ballots favor the Republicans because of the military vote. What about MN?
toliver on February 3, 2009 at 5:19 PM
It’s important that Coleman be able to compete against a well-funded Franken in pursuing this ballot issue. If you can spare a few bucks, donate here.
We need all the Republican Senators we can get!
Buy Danish on February 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Irony, thy name is Leftist.
capitalist piglet on February 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
In the end, it would be alot cleaner and easier to have a run-off between Coleman and Fuckstick. It would also make it easier on the dumbshits voting. I mean, how can you screw up:
VOTE FOR 1 ONLY:
Coleman ____
Franken ____
GarandFan on February 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
This would result in at least some votes being cast for the number “1″, and does not actually compel the voter to only vote for one. They can mark one, then mark it out and circle the other one, just like they did the first time.
Remember, these Minnesotans are common, salt-of-the-earth people. You know – morons. (hat tip to Gene Wilder)
connertown on February 3, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Minnesota… The state that didn’t learn anything from the Jesse the Body administration…
phreshone on February 3, 2009 at 5:42 PM
VOTE FOR 1 ONLY:
Coleman ____
X
Franken ____
Bruno Strozek on February 3, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Minnesota is so messed up I don’t care really who wins…but I really want Coleman to win, just to watch the liberals heads explode.
Damn, that is funny…the lizard people strike again…
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 5:47 PM
As a punishment to the state of MN for being obviously even stupider as a whole than FL, I saw we pull a soup nazi on them and say NO SENATOR FOR YOU until 2010. And then maybe these people will learn how to mark ax X next to a name, and only 1 name.
angryed on February 3, 2009 at 5:48 PM
even more important with Judd Gregg (R-NH) leaving for the Commerce Sec. post. I don’t know if NH will just appoint a Democrat to take Gregg’s spot, but I wouldn’t be surprised one little fat bit.
kirkill on February 3, 2009 at 5:51 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought that most the Republican leaning counties did not count their reject ballots because it was not legal for them to do so. The Democratic counties counted theirs, so that gave Franken the lead. So, the board just wants to get those original ones counted, the ones that were not counted when the Democratic ones were.
If I am off somewhere, please do point it out as I have not really been a close follower of this whole thing as it gets old fast.
WoosterOh on February 3, 2009 at 6:40 PM
The messed up part? Norm Coleman IS Stuart Smalley, just the nicest, most unassuming guy. Sure, he’s a moderate, but he is one of the more decent Congressmen. The people of Minnesota put him through this nightmare for no other reason than to hold their stake on idiocy.
chunderroad on February 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM
I think the Dems screwed up this whole vote so badly, with all of the SOROS and other money poured into the dam lawyers pockets that the election should be declared tainted enough for a re-vote. Let’s see if Al (PROFAIN) Franken can really win on his own. I would be surprised if he could win after all this negative press. He is a real low life!
marcboyd on February 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM
The problem with this election at this point: whoever wins will have an asterix next to their victory and be labeled a cheater by half the population. They would be nearly guaranteed to lose the next election.
With that in mind, maybe you should just send the Frenkenfurter to DC. He can’t do any worse than the Dems in the Senate are already doing. Plus he’ll be associated with this failed administration and failed Congress. He wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell the next election.
(A snowball in hell. Does that describe MN?)
Ace ODale on February 4, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Norm Coleman was elected five terms to the Senate. Franken was the clown vote who got a boost from Obama voters marking their ballots straight-ticket Dem. Franken still cheated. No one will be outraged on his behalf if Coleman wins after such a thorough process.
Someone told me the original quote was, “Life ain’t no box of chocolates, if you’re an idiot.”
chunderroad on February 4, 2009 at 2:17 AM
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