Disgrace: Gillibrand happily recants her old views on immigration
posted at 3:00 pm on February 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
We already knew this, but knowing it is one thing and watching her effusively grovel about how much she’s learned in the past week from talking to “community leaders” about the human toll is another thing entirely. Besides, after talking her up last week, I deserve to be humiliated in a proper post. Rarely will you see a politician eat shinola this eagerly, particularly since the logic of her argument is that she was an ill-informed imbecile when she was casting votes on this very important subject during her time in the House. Was that also true of her pro-gun, anti-bailout positions? I’ve got a crazy hunch we’re going to find out that it was. Wherever you are, Caroline, I’m sorry.
Heather MacDonald laid into her yesterday at the Corner for deciding that one’s policies — including defense of the rule of law — are tenable to the extent one’s constituents support them. I’m curious how far that principle extends. According to the new Fox News poll, 50 percent of Americans want the stimulus to focus more on tax cuts versus just 29 percent who want more spending. By Gillibrand’s logic, shouldn’t The One be taking a hard right? Click the image to watch.
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In case there was any doubt what we’re made of here in NY.
JiangxiDad on February 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM
THEY got her set straight right fast….
misterspork on February 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Coward, she fits right in
Wade on February 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Money talks. And the money from NYC must be immense.
unclesmrgol on February 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM
There ya go.
The one thing we all need to learn from the reign of Osama Obama is that nothing we see or hear is to be trusted. Everything is a lie.
The past two weeks seem like 10 years. We’re doomed.
MrScribbler on February 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
What a disgraceful, unprincipled flip-flopper. Keeping in mind that she had those original conservative views while representing a Republican district. She may’ve been anti-gun and pro-amnesty all along, just flipping to stay in her seat.
amerpundit on February 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
She has a ‘d’ after her name. Therefore, she has no accountability, her positions can change at will with no argument allowed, and she doesn’t even have to pay her taxes.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. The goal should be to eliminate all liberals from power, as they are all corruptible, apparently.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
At least there’s still a good chance her seat in the House may go to a Republican.
Bill Scrunty on February 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Meh, she’s still to the right of McCain and his lap dog Graham.
cadams on February 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM
She reminds me so much of my former Senator. When he was senator of this very red state, he was pro-life, pro-tobacco, pro-guns…when he became VPOTUS, he did a complete left turn.
I am, of course, talking about Algore.
ladyingray on February 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Lots of issues she doesn’t know laot about, eh…come to Texas sweetie…we’ll learn ya right quick about the illegal vermin invading our republic.
Pulchritudinous Patriot on February 3, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Gee, she is seeing the light of Hope&Change!!
I guess i haven’t been drinking enough kool-aid, or i have the wrong kind of Hope&Change glasses, cause it just isn’t working for me.
MDWNJ on February 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never does. Luckily, she is able to see all sides of an issue and form her opinions accordingly. The timing on an 180 switch was just,…unfortunate, because of the perception it creates. Let’s move on and concentrate on the important business of the Senate.
a capella on February 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Yup. It was represented by a GOPer before Gillibrand and has a Cook PVI of R+3.
amerpundit on February 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Conformity you can believe in.
the_nile on February 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM
My guess is that “effusive groveling” will become a hallmark of the Hope & Change administration.
It’s the dhimmi way.
Bruno Strozek on February 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Joke
flyfisher on February 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Quite a senator you got yourself there, AP.
lorien1973 on February 3, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Stupid Cow.
She’s a Stepford Democrat.
Nothing like cowing to community aggitators.
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Might as well have confirmed Princess Caroline. I love New York. I HATE our politicians (except Peter King).
J.J. Sefton on February 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Democrats: One Party. One Opinion.
lorien1973 on February 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Those democrats got a big tent , with plenty room for different opinions.
the_nile on February 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Her choice was to flip or lose the Primary.
artist on February 3, 2009 at 3:11 PM
She’s welcome to come and spend a week with me in LA if that would help firm up her thoughts on this issue. Otherwise, I take back any good things I said about her and, as of this moment, she is nothing but a collaborator. Pull her income tax forms NOW, please!
califcon on February 3, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Heaven forbid that she stand up for what she believes in. Can’t do that and be a politician. Can’t pay your taxes, either, if you’re a democrat.
Audit her!
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Do these rat screw Democrats have any solid values or believe in anything other than their hedonistic, communist philosophy.
rplat on February 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM
More on the Job Training. The degree to which imbeciles are put into powerful positions in this country is mindboggling.
Hmm, wonder why she happened to revise her stance?
fogw on February 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM
She isn’t a coward, an imbecile, or confused. She is a politician. She has no values unless they are political expediants.
If it gets her a vote, or an appointment she will say or do whatever it takes. She has no concern about anyone or anything except her own political gravy train.
If people don’t see how obvious this has become with our politicians, they are intentionally delusional.
Rode Werk on February 3, 2009 at 3:14 PM
“Allah , it’s not you it’s me”
the_nile on February 3, 2009 at 3:14 PM
And, here lies the problem.
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 3:14 PM
A spine made of uncooked polenta.
Jaibones on February 3, 2009 at 3:16 PM
She will still get a major Primary challenge.
Wouldn’t it be sweet if she lost?
artist on February 3, 2009 at 3:16 PM
She really hates the NRA too, because she thought the NRA , stood for National Roosters Association, being she is from such a rural area, and she is sorry she is such a dumb hick, and that the intelligent city folk put her right , in 3..2..1..
MDWNJ on February 3, 2009 at 3:16 PM
“NY1 Noticias’ Juan Manuel Benítez sat down with New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand to discuss her stance on immigration.”
And, here lies the problem.
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 3
I thought it was McCain.
artist on February 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM
“We have a platform; why would you need any other positions?”
Jaibones on February 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM
“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
the_nile on February 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Um, I just have to ask. Are these her views about “immigration” or are we talking about illegal immigration here?
califcon on February 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM
She’s a Democrat. What did you expect. NY conservatives have a golden opportunity to really gain in NY in 2010. We’ve got a Nanny-state lovin’ tax and spend mayor, a coke addled tax and spending govenor, Chucky Schmucky Schumer, and this squish all up for election. Put up someone with a pulse and decent hair and you’ve got a winner for cryin out loud!
Iblis on February 3, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Yeah a platform with a trap door, and a noose above it, should you stray from the party line.
MDWNJ on February 3, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Silly silly allahpundit.
She’s a DEMOCRAT.
By definition, she’s a nutcase.
notagool on February 3, 2009 at 3:19 PM
“Everyone north of the Tappan Zee bridge can kiss my ass!!”
Caper29 on February 3, 2009 at 3:19 PM
“NY conservatives have a golden opportunity to really gain in NY in 2010.”
Stop! My side hurts!
artist on February 3, 2009 at 3:20 PM
She has no stones, both literally and figuratively.
saiga on February 3, 2009 at 3:21 PM
What an idiot. She goes to one meeting and commits to a reversal of her policy. Did she meet with anyone for another point of view.
And the whole BS of cops not being smart enough to know what to do with an illegal alien. What an insult to the intelligent of police officers.
pedestrian on February 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM
She’s a DEM. They are RATS! BWAAAAAAA! They don’t BELIEVE in ANYTHING other than THE PARTY…THE PARTY…THE PARTY! It’s all about THE PARTY! That’s why they hate Christianity…it replaces THE PARTY as the Ultimate Authority and that cannot be tolerated! THE PARTY and only THE PARTY can be tolerated!
Sound familiar? Take a look at 1939 Germany!
sabbott on February 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Does anyone in Washington know what integrity means? I wonder how her constituents feel. They probably did not realize that she has SO MUCH TO LEARN before they voted for her.
DrStock on February 3, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Wait, let me see. The important business of the Senate is to….I wonder what is really important. Oh I know!
1) get re-elected
2) earmark enough money to buy enough votes to get re-elected
3) use fine tuned rhetoric using wealth envy to get re-elected
4) make sure the constituency is kept dependent in order to get re-elected
I think I have it now.. the important job of the Senate is to GET RE-ELECTED.
belad on February 3, 2009 at 3:25 PM
One at a time, my friend. One at a time.
HornetSting on February 3, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Unfortunately the problem isn’t limited to Democrats. We have had our share of corrupt politicians, and that is part of why we are where we are today. Maybe we should view exposure to Washington in the same way we view exposure to radiation, and limit the amount of time any human can be exposed to that environment.
DFCtomm on February 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM
She will never win a statewide election. Cuomo might run either for the senate or governor. Peter King already declared he is running against Gillibrand.
She is a sell-out and everyone who follows NY politics knows it. She switches positions in a heartbeat if it means she could garner more votes and popularity.
NYC does not make up all the votes in the state. But it does have the MSM whom she is sucking up to.
jencab on February 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM
How very disappointing. She has been assimilated.
LimeyGeek on February 3, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Harry Reid’s new toy puppet.
BrianA on February 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Awesome. Just going to be used as another example of how people from rural areas are so uneducated on “important” issues. Once they get to the big city, they see the light.
Sir Corky on February 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Easily the stupidest *#$*ing thing I’ve read in a month.
A wise man changes his mind?!?!?!? What the Hell does that mean??
She’s simply positioning herself to keep the seat that was given to her..plain and simple. Since she’s now beholden to the gob smak liberals of NY City now and not just her corner of the state.
BigWyo on February 3, 2009 at 3:30 PM
I couldn’t stomach the whole video. Her liberal, leftist indoctrination is solidly taking root.
What is wrong with these people who call themselves our political leaders?
What about the rule of law?
What about protecting the sovereignty of the United States?
What about protecting the middle class against job loss to people who don’t belong in the country?
What about people who don’t belong in the country stealing the scarce social services of the American people?
All her once right views are changed because she talked to community leaders? What could community leaders possibly have to say that would change the issues above?
It’s all about political expediency at a great cost to the American people.
The time for pitchforks and torches is nearer than I would like to believe…
voiceofreason on February 3, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Didn’t I hear that she was a conservative Democrat? What happened to the “conservative” part?
Not only is NY’s gov blind, I think he’s deaf and dumb to boot. Thanks for nothing, Patterson.
redfoxbluestate on February 3, 2009 at 3:31 PM
is there such a thing as NY conservatives??
right4life on February 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM
I am one of her former constituents. She is the first Democrat ever elected for our CD. The only reason she won was because of Sweeney’s personal problems, which were played up heavily by the media.
Jim Tedisco(R) will beat Scott Murphy(D) by a landslide for the seat Gillibrand vacated. The GOP has already uncovered tax issues for Murphy.
Connie on February 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM
I cant stand to watch any liberal
Because blood shoots out of my eyes
when i see the sheer insanity of their beliefs..
Why dont liberals all move to
RUSSIA???
they should feel right at home with putin..
jcila on February 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Say it with me everybody! TERM LIMITS!
Ace ODale on February 3, 2009 at 3:37 PM
This is the kind of garbage we are forced to read written by our local Gillibrand sycophant.
Connie on February 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Setting term limits, that aren’t left up to the voters, is what is needed to clean out the cockroach infestation we have in Washington. It appears that anyone that spends more than on term in office is absorbed by the collective and becomes corrupted by it.
belad on February 3, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Ugh! I barely made it through 60 seconds of the video. What a way to make a fool of yourself. Do politicians really think the electorate believes this BS? Is this what they teach in politician school?
DrStock on February 3, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Perhaps she fashioned herself some type of ambassador to the Borg, or liason between outsiders and the hive. I hope her final transformation wasn’t painful.
JiangxiDad on February 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM
She was my congresswoman, even though I supported her opponent, I predicted she would make a sharp left turn after she went from my conservative for NY district to statewide.
Ann NY on February 3, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Say it with me everybody! TERM LIMITS!
Ann NY on February 3, 2009 at 3:48 PM
The issue of intellectual integrity would probably be at the top of the list.
MB4 on February 3, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Offer her a higher-status and better-paying office and suddenly her deeply-held principles do a 180?
What a sleaze. Hope she gets her hypocritical butt kicked in the primary.
AZCoyote on February 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM
I was never in favor of them. I have changed my mind in the last year or so. Count me in.
JiangxiDad on February 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Or, severe voting restrictions. One or the other.
JiangxiDad on February 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM
I don’t know what use I could make of them. Maybe use them as cannon fodder next time I invade Georgia or maybe when I invade Alabama? No you keep them, they would probably just complain about their food or medical care.
PootyPoot on February 3, 2009 at 3:54 PM
This is the problem with our system. We don’t have ‘leaders’. . . what we have is a bunch of people trying to be elected. Nothing more.
Until we go to a merit based system of voting where everyone might not necessarily get to vote, we are going to bankrupt government. People who don’t pay taxes don’t care about things like this and yet they vote.
No taxation without representation. . . OK, fine. . . NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION. If you don’t pay income tax or property tax, you don’t vote.
ThackerAgency on February 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM
I knew there was something fishy about Schumer promoting a “conservative” Democrat…
…as if there is any such animal.
ladyingray on February 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I was actually quoting Ace Odale, but the blockquote messed up. Anyway, I’m a late comer to the term limit movement as well. I started changing my mind when the GOP turned into spineless jellyfish after being in power for a decade (not that I want the Democrats in power, but as I said above, term limits would weed out the truly power hungry, I hope).
Ann NY on February 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM
But she is a prime example of how irrelevant these people are. Just because you are elected or appointed senator does not mean that you know anything or are more deserving of anything than the average American. It does not take a smart person to be able to tell people what they want to hear. . . look at Barney Frank.
ThackerAgency on February 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Don’t worry Allah. I am sure she is still better than Sarah Palin.
promachus on February 3, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Oh it is….
AprilOrit on February 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Yeah, they’re the suckers who actually have to pay NY taxes. Maybe that’s why they don’t have any money to run campaigns.
The environement is ripe. When people are seriously considering becoming soda bootleggers and salt smugglers there’s an opportunity for true change. Maybe Steele can finally start recruiting people.
People are pissed, but they need to have an alternative.
Iblis on February 3, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Sell Out! Pretty Soon Who Is Going To Be Left To Represent AMERICANS not what the politician’s think is for our own good. They don’t get they are not elected to do anything more then represent us not decide “things” for us.
Dr Evil on February 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM
That pic is terrible, whoever said she was attractive needs to have their head examined.
promachus on February 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM
She is another one of those. Can’t Understand Normal Thinking.
cjs1943 on February 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM
I think it has almost come to that, but the problem prevents the cure. The people you would be attempting to restrict from voting are nearly the majority now, so they will never vote themselves out of a vote. The U.S. as we know it is finished.
DFCtomm on February 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM
“Every man has his price.” The ‘issues’ she didn’t understand was the amount of bribe money she would receive for selling her convictions.
Helloyawl on February 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Wow a democrat political whore, how very, very unique. NOT
Jdripper on February 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM
AP, don’t fret.
As a Congressperson, she had to pander to her district, mostly farmers and other hard workin’ folk.
Now that she’s a Senator, she has to pander to a much more diverse crowd which includes the most populus city in the country; how could her beliefs not change overnight? What worked in Poughkipsee won’t work in Brooklyn.
Buck up, AP.
BobMbx on February 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM
JiangxiDad on February 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM
“They are law enforcement officers, not there to enforce immigration law.”
1. They’re (illegal immigrants) here illegally meaning:
2. The broke the law meaning:
3. They’re criminals meaning:
4. They need to be arrested by:
5. Law enforcement officers.
Other then being subjected to lack-of-logic-lefty-looney world-what am I missing?
Amendment X on February 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM
You all may say she’s conforming but really she’s being a MAVERICK!
Thresher on February 3, 2009 at 5:08 PM
I wasn’t a big fan up until several elections ago. The problem is that the current system really favors the incumbents – both in money and name recognition. I have come to believe that term limits combined with actually following the constitution is the only way to save The Republic. Term limits could go a long way to reducing the power that the federal government has grabbed away from the states but it is not a guarantee.
Corsair on February 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
and letting her know that she would have one of the shortest senatorial careers for a democrap in US history if she didn’t jump on the Sellout Express.
She knows who pays her bills now…… but will she pay her taxes? That is the question.
JeffinOrlando on February 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM
RJL on February 3, 2009 at 5:36 PM
sung to the tune of the Mickey Mouse Club theme song:
Who’s the leader of the club?
Liberals you see!
P-A-N-D-E-R Won’t you vote for me?
Hey! there Hi! there Ho! there
My name is Kirsten G
P-A-N-D-E-R Won’t you vote for me?
Kirsten G
Kirsten G
Forever let us hold Obama high!
High! High! High! High!
Chuck has told me how to vote
The new transparency!
P-A-N-D-E-R You will vote for me!
pbabb on February 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM
These community organizers completely ignore the human toll of Americans being victims of crime from illegals. They run with their 1984 double speak at every turn, and ignorant Americans eat it up. I think I’m gonna barf.
kirkill on February 3, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Absolutely! I don’t think there is any such thing as a DIMO in the Dem party.(Democrat in name only:)Is there a better way to say it??)
JellyToast on February 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Anyone ever have that glimmer of light that’s fading away feeling? Such was the mild optimism I had for Ms. Gillbrand…I know I know silly me, oh well back our regularly scheduled indoctrination.
NY Conservative on February 3, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Gun control will be the next thing she didn’t know a lot about.
JellyToast on February 3, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Exactly: It’s one of those jibber-jabber pseudo-Buddhist
nonsense non-saying that Leftards love to toss out
People with no values change their views because…..they have no values
“It doesn’t take a Weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing”
Janos Hunyadi on February 3, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Gotta love when the palin fanboys weigh in with their keen political insight and wisdom.
benny shakar on February 3, 2009 at 7:33 PM
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