Democratic rebellion in the House, in more ways than one
posted at 10:44 am on February 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Congress just started the 111th Session just four weeks ago, and already some Democrats have had enough of Nancy Pelosi’s ham-handed tactics. A rebellion has begun to brew among moderates in Pelosi’s caucus that wants a return to “regular order”, in which the committees return to their normal process of crafting and modifying legislation instead of a select group of elites ramming it down their throats. They may draft Steny Hoyer, the Majority Leader, as their savior:
A group of more than 50 House Democrats has penned a letter to Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) imploring him to “restore this institution” and see that the House returns to a “regular order” process of legislating.
The letter, signed by a large number of the conservative Blue Dog Coalition and the centrist New Democratic Coalition, has not yet been sent. Members are still gathering signatures in an effort to send the strongest signal possible to all top House Democrats that the caucus is up in arms over the top-down method of legislating employed by Democrats since late last year. …
Since last year, many senior House Democrats — many of them subcommittee chairmen — have grown overly frustrated with how only small and select bands of legislators have been responsible for writing bills, such as the $700 billion Wall Street bailout as well as much of the $819 billion economic stimulus bill.
Democratic leaders have acknowledged that the “regular order” process of methodically developing and writing bills in subcommittees and committees has been abandoned recently. But they have defended the handling of such sensitive and important legislation by only an exclusive group of leadership and senior lawmakers as a necessary tactic during exceptional times.
Pelosi campaigned for a Democratic majority in 2006 in part on the argument that Republican leadership had locked Democrats out of the legislative process. Pelosi promised a more cooperative, collegial approach that allowed for dissent and debate. Unfortunately, as the Democrats remind her in this letter, she not only adopted the very same tactics against which she campaigned, she’s begun locking fellow Democrats out of the process now, too.
Consider this a lower-case D democratic rebellion. Having a small group of party elites (of either party) writing and forcing legislation through Congress and bypassing the committee process rejects the very democracy that sustains Congress itself. The House exists to give the people a voice in all legislation, not just the people of a district in San Francisco and another in Maryland. The entire notion of representative democracy and the buy-in of the people it governs rests on the ability of everyone to have some power in shaping the laws that we must obey. While few bills of any consequence will get unanimous approval, the ability to amend bills and to negotiate their final form is an important function of ensuring respect for the results.
The rebellion is still rather small, if The Hill’s numbers are correct. So far, it’s only a quarter of her caucus. Still, Pelosi’s dictatorial rule insults more people than it benefits, and this could snowball into a real rebellion against her leadership if it continues.
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Worst Speaker of the House, Evah. Ham hands down.
kirkill on February 3, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Bad time to be running low on popcorn
gatorboy on February 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Crossing fingers. Is it turning around because of reasonable people? Did moderate Democrats see the light?
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Another disgusting Pelosi pic. ewww
becki51758 on February 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM
I can’t understand how people can look at her and not immediately be repelled by that wide-eyed look. Particularly as it seems to reflect her essence to the core.
Count to 10 on February 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM
And if they align with the Republicans…
Skywise on February 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM
hmmm…
Sounds like the natives are getting restless with the inmates running the asylum.
singlemalt_18 on February 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM
I’ve been going through it like crazy myself!
JeffinOrlando on February 3, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I don’t blame them for that. Would you want to go face to face with Pelosi? By the way, Ed, I will pay for a subscription to Hot Air if you will please not put that picture on the front page again.
genso on February 3, 2009 at 10:51 AM
And meanwhile conservatives seem to be becoming marginalized within the GOP.
How many new parties are we going to see in the next few decades?
MadisonConservative on February 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM
These rebellious legislators apparently do not understand that power is for the few. Maybe Nan needs to organize a purge.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM
This is going to be delicous……….
Jed1899 on February 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Did someone bring up MKH’s hands? No? Just making sure I didn’t miss anything.
:)
alflauren on February 3, 2009 at 10:53 AM
They should stop marching in lock step and can that moron Pelosi.
rplat on February 3, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Yes. The Pelosians are discovering that the vast majority of Americans (including Congress critters) are no where near as freaky as they are.
The scene in Animal House where Belushi attempts to inspire the mob and runs out of the room alone comes to mind.
BobMbx on February 3, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Ah! A ray of sunshine on a snowy day.
davidk on February 3, 2009 at 10:54 AM
“Madame Speaker, the blue-dogs are revolting!”
“Yeah, they stink on ice.”
James on February 3, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I think they are waiting for Blinky to blink.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM
I hope. I still digging that hole in my back yard to hid my AR15 and Beretta till I see more evidence though.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 10:56 AM
My dream: The Democrat caucus turns into Thunderdome.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 3, 2009 at 10:56 AM
It will be fun to see which side the big media outlets come down on this one.
Since Rahm Emanuel was the one who recruited many of the more-moderate Democrats to run in 2006 and 2008, this may actually be a de facto battle between the Speaker and the White House on who controls the legislative agenda (from a partisan angle, Republicans should be hoping Nancy wins this battle, because she’s well on her way to screwing things up for the Democrats in 2010. From a ‘What’s better for the country?” side, at least short-term, it’s better that the moderates win, even if that makes it more likely the Dems will hold Congress 19 months from now).
jon1979 on February 3, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Pelosi–from now on known as IL Douche
tomswid on February 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM
The democrats are in a tailspin…this stimulus bill is probably much worse then we know. The internal polls must be horrendous.
Pelosi may be safe, but there are 49 (or 56) other states that have to answer to their voters.
Pelosi and Obama have to re-write this, and I bet Pelosi behind closed doors is saying “shove it”…I ain’t budging. And Obama would have to cut our a lot of “pay back” to the unions and others in a re-write.
This is now a battle between the far left and the moderates of the dems.
Not unlike the far left and the moderates of the Republicans.
To have a “small” band of dems, so early after an election taking up arms is pretty amazing. They are in essence, leaving the honeymoon suite, and sleeping on the couch.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Pelosi and Hoyer can’t stand each other. Both are from Maryland, Pelosi has ties to Maryland’s corrupt political system from way back. Hoyer is not a lot better. It’s good that they are fighting as this has been going on for a long time. I know I have been writing to my Congressmen a lot for the past 6 months. Of the three one is new and just got an address and e-mail. There has to be a lot of complaining going on in both houses. They just haven’t admitted it yet. Maybe all of this “communication” is bugging them and they are tired of hearing from the peons.
BetseyRoss on February 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Here, here MadCon. I hope the rest of the Republican elite in the media get the same message.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Orville Redenbacher, you magnificent…..
hoosiermama on February 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Its a good start.
(No, I’m not talking about Pelosi and the Dems’ left-wing kook base being dropped in the ocean, but now that I think of it . . . )
Ryan Gandy on February 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM
I almost feel guilty that I’m enjoying this so much.
Almost.
bluelightbrigade on February 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Exactly. This is the angle that most are ignoring.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Am Iglad I just a huge tin for my birthday. :)
Plus, is we can copot 25% of the dem congress, would that be enough to stop her?
todler on February 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
How much more botox can that face take, before it just becomes as brittle as her mind?
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM
About the pic-she always looks shocked, doesn’t she? You expect a reverse shot showing one of those 20 ft tall ants from a 50′s monster movie.
Nancy! Grab the flamethrower! {scream}
Too late-she’s gone.
On topic-Pelosi seems to think that being the first woman speaker of the House is her legacy-how well or how horribly she does isn’t important to her. Her side is holding all of the cards-even if she does a poor job, the Dem Senate and the Dem President can do all the hard work.
I’m not sure if it was the very first comment I made here at Hot Air, but I’ve written this a number of times over the few years:
Term limits. Term Limits. TERM LIMITS!
Doug on February 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Petraeus/Palin 2012
pecan pie on February 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Peblowsi – Reap what you sow.
Now, your party and America are seeing thru the dictatorial hammer with which you thought you could control the people.
And the people ain’t happy.
madmonkphotog on February 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM
alflauren on February 3, 2009 at 10:53 AM
If he were, a nuke going off would have been much better as a picture than Pelosi’s ugly mug.
Ryan Gandy on February 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Coupla’ things:
(1.) These Democrats should be encouraged; because…
(2.) Pelosi is wretched and vile;
(3.) But labelling any Democrat (Blue Dog or otherwise) “Conservative” is a misnomer of massive proportions because whatever their politics, they are still DEMOCRATS, members of a political party that has no “Conservative” tenets about it;
and,
(4.) More Americans need to question the entire “we must create more legislation” intents of the latest House (AND Senate, for that matter); perhaps our nation needs far LESS legislation and far more efficiency.
S on February 3, 2009 at 11:03 AM
its just said the Dems would let someone like Pelosi represent them. To have a healthy two party system, you need two healthy parties, the Dems are not
jp on February 3, 2009 at 11:03 AM
By the way, I’ve always loved that picture of Nan on this thread. Looks like she just saw the One drop trou.
CBS News on the hours says another Obama nominee (Nancy Killefer) drops out because of…..
TAXES!!!
Holy Cow, no wonder them need me to pay more. They don’t pay any.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Who woulda thunk that a gaggle of blue-dogs who are answerable to red constituencies would get nervous by the antics of the entrenched die-hard liberal coastal elites?
But as noneya the IED planter would tell you, the nation is abandoning conservatism in any form and fully embracing hedonistic liberalism.
Bishop on February 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM
It’s about time that House members asserted their right to play the part they were sent to DC to play. Congrats!
jeanie on February 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Can anyone remember even the inkling of a “revolt” form the winning party just 3 weeks after an election? Three years, yeah, that happens, but 3 weeks?
Something is happening behind, either in the polls, or in committees that hasn’t come to light yet.
You’re pretty good at analyzing, care to guess? Power play, polls, they sense Obama is weak, Pelosi is “flexing”? Something other then, “we don’t have a say” is driving this…this is major.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM
It’s a start and sometimes their convictions change them. Like Zell Miller.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
“Sire, the peasants are revolting.”
“Yes, they certainly are!”
N. O'Brain on February 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Nancy Pelosi is a complete disgrace and utter failure. History will not only place her among this nations most divisive and ineffectual Speakers of the House, it will also remember her legacy of diminishing the institutions of Congress and American democracy.
She needs to go–immediately.
Christien on February 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
That old blister needs to be removed from power
grapeknutz on February 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Yes, the Dems have trouble. Right here in Barry’s City.
And that starts with “T” and that rhymes with “P” and that stands for Pelosi.
Couldn’t be happening to a sweeter gal…except maybe Boxer.
kingsjester on February 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Too much bad press. There’s only one solution……ramp up the indictments of Bush and Rove for criminal injustice. When things spin out of control, there’s always BDS.
sherry on February 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM
But shouldn’t the headline on the article be something along the lines of “Fractured Republicans Still Looking for Cohesive Message” or “Republican Party in Disarray”.
We all know the Democrats are just one big warm, fuzzy, commune with peace, love, and social justice sitting high on the high moral ground they have seized, firmly held by the most ethical collection of felons, er community organizers to ever grace the halls of Capitol Hill.
Just A Grunt on February 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Barry Deity Syndrome.
the_nile on February 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Again, the tiresome comparisons to the shoe being on the other foot. As the Republican Party takes over in 2000 it is learned that President Bush’s first two big cabinet nominees combined haven’t paid more than 200,000 dollars in back taxes. Dan Rather says, “How long can Democracy last with this level of corruption?” It’s learned within week of the Republican Revolution of 94 that moderate Republicans are voicing opposition to the tactics of Newt Gingrich and the Deal With America. Peter Jennings says, “No mandate, the American People have spoken, the country is as left as ever.”
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Heh. My favorite line from History of the World, Part II.
HawaiiLwyr on February 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM
But she has always been that way, something else is changing, or they have wind of something.
Could it be that they see that Obama is really much weaker, and that they need to take control or their will be real problems in the future.
Don’t ever lose site that there are many elected democrats that truly want the U.S. to succeed. They know they won’t be elected if it stumbles…Pelosi is safe no matter what, but many are not in D.C., Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, most are in areas that will switch if Obama is as weak as some of us think.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM
So far, it seems Nan believes she can walk all over Barry, especially with his horrendous missteps in his first two weeks. Unfortunately for her, the ideas she espouses are poison to the blue dogs or any member with a competitive seat. She can’t seriously believe that her idea of America sells in any place but SF, can she?
Add to that the fact that people are quickly waking up to the reality that a completely inexperienced rube is now in the oval office. If he responds to polls like Clinton, he can be pulled in any direction. If he ignores polls, based on past history, he will be radically left, and anethema to most politicians of both parties. Therefore, it quickly becomes every man for himself time.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM
De-facto battle to control the House? Interesting take on this. It is true that Pelosi has/will go a long way towards defaming the Dem Party in the House. It’s also true that sneaky is the name of the game in the Obama(er, the Emmanuel?)White House. Something to think about and watch. You know, I think this administration is innately corrupt and bottomlessly power hungry but have to admit that they are very entertaining.
jeanie on February 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Not news.
dem politics as usual.
Blue dogs pretend to be mavericks to get reelected because they are in red districts.
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM
This is the legislative equivalent of suspending habeas corpus and/or posse comitatus.
drjohn on February 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Bush Derangement/Barry Deity. Very confusing for the libs. There has to be government-issued medication for this affliction.
sherry on February 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Only the ultra left dimwits would have put that women in as speaker. One can only hope that this boils to the point where the blue dogs start voting with the republicans (I admit that this is probably very wishful thinking).
duff65 on February 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
“The most bipartisan Congress ever”
drjohn on February 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM
His impression of Lt. Frank Drebin in “Naked Gun”:
kingsjester on February 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Bull. Ever hear of Zell Miller? Ever hear of JFK? Southern Democrats are quite a different breed than their coastal brethren. Anyone who has been paying attention the last few years knows that the party dogmas are making troops on both sides flee. Sweeping generalizations like yours are the drug of the BDS-stricken Kos kiddies, not us.
MadisonConservative on February 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM
The manner in which one conducts one’s self when in a position of great authority speaks volumes.
drjohn on February 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Pic of Pelosi, with “Revolting” caption. PRICELESS!
marklmail on February 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM
kingsjester on February 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Well, most blue dogs voted yes for the stimulus.
They will return to regular order after they pass the President’s agenda.
New to politics?
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Jennings is a left wing ideologue, Gingrich’s contract with America ended up being heavily supported. looks like Jennings was very very wrong. It was resisted by the dems, and embraced by the Republicans.
What two nominees? Link please…you mean Rather, the one that made up the false accusation of President Bush’s service records?
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM
If only the American people knoew a fraction of what Democrats (well, liberals in general) are all about…the world would be a much better place.
Grafted on February 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
I think that is accurate…who do they back? Pelosi the consummate left wing “to hell with you” progressive, or Obama the rookie who is showing more and more his inexperience…
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Not by a long shot. If you have not noticed, a lot of us around here think it’s hilarious and sad at the same time that the most ethical congress and administration ever are melting down in record time. Only 38% of the American Public still believe in the Porkulous Bill and it and President Obama’s ratings are in freefall. Elections and bad choices have consequences.
Get suckered by arrogant, inept, and greedy Politicians much?
kingsjester on February 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Wondering who has the largest collection of works by Machiavelli. Obama? No, my money is on Emmanuel.
jeanie on February 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Yet 9 out of the 10 of Newt’s contracts easily won approval from both the dems and the Republicans.
Now please, link about the two cabinet members, I have tried to Google, but have found nothing.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM
If 50% of the Dem. Reps were blue dogs, the House would at least be rationally corrupt…
phreshone on February 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Satire R2B. I was saying what if the shoe were on the other foot. Nothing like that happened on our side in either case but the MSM still railed against us. So sorry, the only links I can provide is sausage links. :-)
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I’m laughing my butt off here R2B. I’m sorry. I was kidding to make a point. Don’t hate me.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:30 AM
I’d still rather have blue dog Dems shaping legislation than Nanny Staters like Nancy Lugosi, a/k/a Blinky, working in lock step with our commie Uber Kewl Dude-in-Chief.
RickZ on February 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Revolting…? You got that right, Obambi and the Dems STINK ON ICE!
Liberty or Death on February 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM
50 democrats have signed on. One only needs 35 or so of them, plus a unified GOP to outvote Pelosi and her stalwarts on any bill.
Vashta.Nerada on February 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Here are his first several appointments of 2000 (from the LAT)…you are saying Powell and O’Neill owed back taxes of $200,000? Chavez was the most famous for hiring an illegal immigrant…of course now that is acceptable. And she withdrew under partisan pressure before she accepted.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I posted…
I should have posted, “Again, the tiresome comparisons to the shoe being on the other foot and a look at how the MSM would have treated Republicans in a similar situation”.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Obviously Pelosi forgot to bring the candy to the last meeting
entagor on February 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Okay, you caught me, but there are posters who do that…they make those statements then run.
deathtomediahacks does that, sethstorm does that on almost every post…most of the liberals make those attacks then run off.
The good news is, I did a little research and it is amazing how “clean” President Bush’s appointments were. In stark contrast to what is happening now.
So the information is even more alarming about what is going on with Obama and Pelosi…truly a rookie being taken to the shed.
right2bright on February 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM
It’s not a direct threat to Pelosi, but a fourth of the Democrats is a PLENTY big enough block to work with from our side of the aisle.
The problem is that the so-called “moderates” of the Republican Party have spent the past 8 years conceding to the ultra-left wing of the Democrat Party instead of trying to co-opt the Democrat moderates to our side.
Any sign of a rift in the opposition is good. But if Republicans don’t re-organize to take advantage of this, it won’t mean squat.
logis on February 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM
The stimulus fiasco proves that Obama does not have control of his party, nor of Congress, and certainly not of the Republicans. The Reps and the few votes have nothing but their bully pulpit on the web or in the WSJ, and they have used it masterfully. Pelosi is setting herself up against the O. Who will win this clash of wills? Stay tuned….
PattyJ on February 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Know your power, Nancy. Even your own party is attempting to give you a clue. San Francisco does not run the nation, contrary to your delusions.
onlineanalyst on February 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Living in the Bay Area for years this is not surprising.
Willie Brown, Pelosi,Boxer, the Burton brothers- all partisan thugs who rule, not govern.
Dissent is treason to Pelosi et al- they can get away with this in SF because everyone productive left leaving a majority of dependants.
But it is going to make “adults” like the Blue Dogs balk.
jjshaka on February 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM
You get what you give Nancy.
BTW-how dare you all think that all the members of the House deserve to ‘craft’ legislation.
This process is only for the elite few who understand what is best for the peasants.
How dare you question the queen?!
Ahhh….what a deliriously wonderful dream that is!
Take Daschle’s Pontiac & soup it up with daggers for hubcaps!
Badger40 on February 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Seriously, could the first few weeks of Obama be more flip-flop-filled, or tarnished? It’s an out and out debacle.
marklmail on February 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I feel your pain. Just visiting relatives in neighboring quiet little Novato & visiting the city was a shock for me growing up.
I saw my first gay kiss/grope/sex act there.
Badger40 on February 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I’d like to agree, but remember the first priority of almost any politician is re-election. There must be some grumbling back home.
a capella on February 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I don’t think Nancy is particularly bright. She is sly and clever, but I don’t think she is very smart, which means she could probably be out manuevered. She is ruthless though, just like Emmanuel. Remember how she tried to put Murtha in as her second in command? Even though Hoyer had earned the spot outright. How she ever got to be speaker, I don’t know. How did Harry get to be majority leader? The two premier reasons why I will never go back to the Democrats. They allow the least articulate and dumbest two reps. in their ranks rise to the top. How does this happen?
I’m so pleased that they are having a revolt! Makes me all warm and gooey inside!
JAM on February 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Nah, I prefer the Harpy Harridan.
For example, Steny Hoyer is even more corrupt, sleazy and Leftist than the Harpy Harridan.
SeniorD on February 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM
I stopped at the picture, wow. Damn ugly broad.
FireBlogger on February 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Man, you are going to end up hating me. I be sorry.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM
This queen needs to be deposed…as well as should that other queen Barney Frank. That’s just for starters.
onlineanalyst on February 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM
But I’m still laughing.
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM
What is the protocol for overthrowing the Speaker? Is a coup possible?
JAM on February 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM
The Dems have more power than ever and they all want a piece of the action. Some, it appears, are not getting their share. I guess even Congress has its “haves” and “have nots”. Personally, I love watching the elite eat their own. If we can’t do anything about it, we may as well enjoy the theater.
SKYFOX on February 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM
How long before President Obama accuses Rush of inciting this rebellion? I believe the gasoline on the fire would be for Rush / Hannity / Laura to endorse Nancy’s dictatorship over her minions. Something to the tune of;
“It is hard to understand why the newbie’s in the Democratic House do not want to go along with the experienced leadership when it comes to writing legislation. The fact that they have the opportunity to vote and get their vote listed in the affirmative for this worthwhile legislation should be good enough to get them re-elected in 2010. After all, how goes San Francisco, so goes the country.” Or something else along those lines.
Guest1.1 on February 3, 2009 at 11:54 AM
My God I know. The media attacked them on their convictions and political positions because they had almost nothing on them legally.
My favorite Senator that I had the honor to vote for was destroyed by the media for bing too squeeky clean. Rick Santorum must die because he is such a devote Christians and obviously cannot separate his church and state.
(And please never compare me to mediahack even if you end up hating me)
hawkdriver on February 3, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Get suckered by arrogant, inept, and greedy Politicians much?
kingsjester on February 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Nah, my number one rule is never, ever trust a politician.
getalife on February 3, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Thus, we have:
The Harpy Harridan Herself®, First Womyn to Preside over Teh Most Ethikal Congress Evah®, Her Majesty, Nancy ‘Terrorists not welcome on The Rock*’ Pelosi.
* Even though no one has ever escaped from Alcatraz
SeniorD on February 3, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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