We’ve had it soft and easy for so long that we seem unable to do anything but watch dumbly as our country disintegrates around us and our forefathers watch in disgust.

And now we watch as a president is elected from the most politically corrupt area in our country and finds it nearly impossible to find staff who pays their taxes or are not themselves the lobbyists who help corrupt the system.

If not so sad, it would be hillarious.

Might we not deserve it all?

I imagine that Islam’s immediate goal is to subjugate the world. Once it does, then the systematic elimination of all non-Muslims will begin. Funny how much of the world seems to be just waiting for that to happen. How can we live in peace with a philosophy that demands our death?

Don’t feel bad, it’s a surprisingly common misunderstanding.

I’m not backing liberals here…but…that side of the political spectrum has historically been more inclined to get involved in foreign/world affairs than the right, e.g. WWI, WWII, Vietnam.

Today? I’m not sure. I’m inclined to believe they’d pursue intervention in Europe if it was a politically expedient choice.

thequeball on February 2, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Actually, the picture is not so clear.

WWI was indeed Wilson’s little Progressive Jihad and Vietnam was JFK* and LBJ’s baby.

WWII was more complicated. Contrary to popular opinion, FDR was the more isolationist candidate in 1940 – promising not to send American boys to fight in foreign wars. Mind you he was doing this while “illegally” attacking German submarines in the Atlantic, so he was flat out lying.

*Had JFK lived, he would be the hated architect of Vietnam today in liberals’ minds.

…but unfortunately, it’s in a circle rather than straight forward…….

If Iran wants to kill all the Jews then why hasn’t it liquidated it’s own Jewish population
lexhamfox on February 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM

The point you’re obviously missing is that the muslims want to eliminate the country Israel with those jews that are independant from them. Throughout history muslims have always tolerated others AS LONG as they were subservient to them. Jews and other infidels were always welcomed as defacto slaves.

Does this remind anyone of the worldwide reaction to Adolf Hitler and Mein Kampf? “Oh, he doesn’t really mean all of those things,” people would say. “He’s just a provocateur looking for power, and he’ll have reason to moderate once he has something at stake in world politics.” How did that work out for the Jews in Germany and Europe, and for the world as a whole?

You ain’t just whistling “Dixie”.

The USA has now made the same choice, your recent election was between an extreme left and a centre left, you are going the same way as us.
TrueBrit on February 2, 2009 at 1:57 PM

In Europe, they would have referred to themselves as the “Communist” and the “Socialist” candidates.

That makes Europe very easy to poke fun at. But it also makes you a lot more honest.

Not for long.

Some of life is inexplicable. Falling into that category is the support of so-called “liberals” for Hamas over democratic Israel. Ed Morrissey and Michael Yon have more. Israel is a free country that abides by the rule of law. By……

Then I think of Poland and the Baltic states, and the rest of Eastern Europe and I start reconsidering- except, considering the geography, if Western Europe goes under, and Russia threatening from the East I just don’t see how effective the US could even be in protecting Eastern Europe.

Once again Geography and History and combining to rape Poland.

Part of begins to wonder if it wouldn’t be better for Eastern Europe to seek somekind of accommadation with Russia now while the pressures aren’t as bad.

Israel is much better than Iran. Absolutely. But let’s be honest about what the problems of the regime are without making up threats. Iran uses militant proxies against its enemies… we have been doing the same in Iran just as long and, in the case of Saddam’s Iraq, with much more effect than anything they could manage. Iran is problem which we need to face and contain but Yon isn’t really suggesting anything in his article other than falsely labeling the Iranians nazis and rolling out the usual WWII stuff.

Yon’s analysis on Gaza is completely one sided. He ignores the fact that Israel continues to expand settlements into the West Bank (so much for lawful Israel) and cites the qassam rockets as an act of war but what about all the Palestinians killed and injered by Israeli settlers? Israel and Hamas both violated the ceasefire. It was not Hamas alone. Israel violated the terms with its full blockade and targeted assassinations. Hamas decided to keep lobbing rockets at Southern Israel.

Again, this is not to say that Israel is as bad as Hamas or that we should not support Israel’s quest for security. It seems that Yon conveniently forgets core issues which need to be acknowledged for any meaningful discussion about the problems of the Near East to be properly addressed. Why Yon decides to attack Europeans on the Hamas issue is beyond me. I can’t think of one European country that supports Hamas or does not support Israel. It seems there is a competition to label one side or the other Nazis and it is schoolyard rubbish.

Actually, I think it much more likely that Europe will devolve into outright police-state fascism. Think “V for Vendetta”. -LimeyGeek on February 2, 2009 at 11:28 AM

And it’s coming faster and faster in the UK:

UK: Taking Photos of Police Officers Could be Considered a Crime

UK: Whitehall Data-Share Plan Extends ‘Snooper Britain’

Note to the UK: 1984 Was a Novel, Not an Instruction Manuel

And in France:

France: Officials Sacked After Sarkozy Hears Jeers

Dare not criticise

Doubtful. Liberals have a major distaste for helping foreign nations in need. There will be no WWII-like intervention the next time Europe goes mad.

fiscallyconservative on February 2, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I’m not backing liberals here…but…that side of the political spectrum has historically been more inclined to get involved in foreign/world affairs than the right, e.g. WWI, WWII, Vietnam.

Today? I’m not sure. I’m inclined to believe they’d pursue intervention in Europe if it was a politically expedient choice.

If Hamas has targeted the Jews for destruction and rain thousands of rockets and missiles on their heads, then it’s because the Jews have done something wrong — and not because Hamas explicitly states in their charter that their mission is to destroy the Jews and seize Israel for themselves

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Liberals only love the Jews if they are Victims. This is why they elevate the Jews of the Holocaust (movies etc) but despise the modern Israeli Jews.

In the Liberal teachings in our public school system if you defend yourself you are no longer a victim, you are equally if not more responsible, for the fight. If you are assaulted by another student and in your own defense you cause more damage than the kid who started it – it is considered a disproportinate response. If you witness a fight & try to jump in to stop it you are now an equal participant in the fight & will receive punishment for getting involved.

This wrong-headed policy – called Zero Tolerance- is what is being taught to our kids, why are we surprised when this mindset applies to the adult world?

The Left have won and are winning in Europe, people earlier asked about Sarkozy and Merkel, well I refer to Sarkozy as Sarkozy the socialist, because he is one, even more with his pillow talk with someone who protects extreme left wing Italian terrorists. Basically anyone that you see defined as Centre right or right is to the right of the extreme left, it does not mean that they are conservative in an shape or form…

The USA has now made the same choice, your recent election was between an extreme left and a centre left, you are going the same way as us.

And finally there are some Europeans like me who say never again means never again, if only I was in my 20′s I would go to Israel to fight, words yes, but I wish I could help Israel. I am fed up with the spineless idiots in control of us wasting money and criticising Israel, however I did see more support for Israel this time, though I do not expect this EU anti-Hamas attitude to continue.

Yes the USA will get involved in the coming civil war in Europe, you will be bombing me standing at a barricade with a flintlock rifle rather than the AK 47 equipped Jihadists, I know whats coming and I expect no help from the USA, sadly, that shining beacon on the hill is having its own fall, just like Britain has had with our own hope and change that started in 1997 and look at us now.

Some of you hate Europeans like me, sorry, I however grew up reading about how my country stood up to the previous bunch of Jew hating fanatics, the spirit that lead US airborn troops to cross the Rhine to save British troops surrounded at Arnham, and while I see the same traits in those wonderful soldiers that did the business in Iraq, some of the posters here should be ashamed of themselves, your soldiers would come to the aid of us Brits if they could, I am sure of that.

We are losing but we have not lost yet, soon the fighting will start, its getting closer.

Europe has too many Chamberlins and no Churchills.

There’s Geert Wilders.