Obama Radio crashes and burns in DC

posted at 9:58 am on February 2, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The cult of personality appears to have ebbed a bit since Barack Obama had to begin governing two weeks ago.  The Washington DC radio station calling itself Obama 1260 and featuring liberal talk stalwarts Bill Press, Ed Schultz, and Stephanie Miller has given up the ghost already, a victim of undetectable ratings.  Howard Kurtz notes that not all political radio has that problem:

President Obama may be riding high in Washington, but OBAMA 1260 is not.

The area’s only progressive talk station is changing formats, dropping such syndicated liberal hosts as Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller and Bill Press in favor of financial news, starting next week.

The move by Redskins owner Dan Snyder, who purchased the station, WWRC, and others in Washington last summer, leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet. Program Director Greg Tantum says he thought the station could work because of enthusiasm over Obama, but that ratings collapsed to a level that could not be measured after the election.

But ratings nearly doubled, he says, at Snyder’s conservative station, WTNT, which features Laura Ingraham and Bill Bennett.

The very name “Obama 1260″ should have embarrassed the syndicated hosts who appeared on it.  It paints them as nothing more than apologists for a man who hadn’t yet worked a single day in executive office.  The name strongly suggests an overt campaign on behalf of Obama, and after the election, an effort to propagandize on his behalf.  Would a station branding itself on Obamamania dare to criticize the One and ruin its own brand?

Fortunately, we’ll never have to find out.  While ratings for conservative radio soared, undoubtedly in some part to see how conservatives would react to the election of Obama, taste for Obama worship cratered.  Neither will shock veteran radio people, who can see a gimmick for what it is and its expiration date when it arrives.

Tantum wants to put Schultz on the conservative station now to see if he can salvage a piece of his liberal line-up.  Something tells me that listeners will tune away from WTNT and tune in WMAL instead, where conservative listeners can avoid Fast Eddie.  Tantum may have been better advised to keep Miller instead, who has a better show, if he wanted balance instead of ratings.  Given the collapse of Tantum’s Obama 1260, why is WWRC still taking his advice?


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Now THERE is a winning formula, name the station after Ogabe and staff it with geeks who spend their airtime slobbering about the elected messiah.

Comedy gold.

Bishop on February 2, 2009 at 10:01 AM

“Progressive” my ass.

perroviejo on February 2, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Obama radio? Yeesh…that was probably even too much for his fanboys.

flipflop on February 2, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I’m surprised their not asking Dear Leader for a bailout.

Babino on February 2, 2009 at 10:02 AM

clearly, this station is too big and too important to fail.

bailout, please.

negentropy on February 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Oh no not good. Rush is getting more ratings that Obama. Not Good at all.

Brat4life on February 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM

“leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet”

What’s NPR?

mred on February 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

That’s because most people who voted for Obama, voted for a thrilling narrative. It had nothing to do with his stance on important issues. As soon as they tuned into this station and heard what his stances on these issues actually were from the liberals’ own mouths, they probably quickly turned it off so they could get back to pretending he’s a moderate.

Bill Scrunty on February 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Thus, the spark that ignites the flame known as the “unfairness doctrine”.

ErinF on February 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Once again the business side of radio becomes allusive to people who think all talk radio is about is rank political circumlocution. Rush has tried over his 20 year radio boom to explain the realities of his industry, but those on the Left, who try their hand at it, end up believing their own straw man, emulate that image, and end up failing. Not surprising.

Weight of Glory on February 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM

“Progressive” my ass.

perroviejo on February 2, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Progressively Bad Radio.

Darbraun on February 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Now can we do something about ObamaTV? All my TV channels have ObamaGasms all day long.

faraway on February 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Time to apply the Fairness Doctrine to that station.

jgapinoy on February 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Wasn’t there a glaring omission of the fact that PROGRESSIVE RADIO ALMOST NEVER WORKS? I think this marriage of Progressive/Conservative on Snyder’s channel is supposed to be a model. Sneaky.

marklmail on February 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM

The very name “Obama 1260″ should have embarrassed the syndicated hosts who appeared on it.

Especially when they found out that “Obama 1260″ is a prediction for the Dow when the idiot messiah finally finishes his Precedency. The owners were going to change the name, after econometric models were run and showed an expected Dow of 335, after “8 to 10 years” of BHO “rule”, but decided to leave the original prediction, as a confidence-boosting measure.

progressoverpeace on February 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Bill Press?? My God, I haven’t heard his name in years.

BigD on February 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Please let this be the first move in the House of Cards.

sherry on February 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM

“leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet”
What’s NPR?

… and ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, AP, UPI, Newsleek, TIME, Us, and sometimes FoxSchmooze, and every other dildo-run publication and station known to man?

ErinF on February 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Now can we do something about ObamaTV? All my TV channels have ObamaGasms all day long.
faraway on February 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Don’t want to see Ogabe love fests on tv? You can watch the military channel or….uh….the military channel.

Bishop on February 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Foreshadowing

Vashta.Nerada on February 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Where id MyCowardass? I thought he’d run right over here and throw in his condolences.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

is

hawkdriver on February 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

The radio version of MessNBC.

JammieWearingFool on February 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Ha ha.
Ed Shultz is a putz. I’ve never agreed with his commentary when he was still here in ND. Boring.
Incidentally, he owns at least one hunting house in Mott ND.
Evidently his son is a conceited jerk & treats all of us locals like hicks.
I’ve never met Ed, but if he is anything like his spawn-he’s a typical liberal.
Elitist.

Badger40 on February 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

ErinF on February 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Correct Sir

Mark Garnett on February 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Stephanie Miller , Randi Rhodes, Al Frankenstein are always the kiss of death on airwaves… long may they self destruct

MNDavenotPC on February 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM

My prediction…Foreshadowing.

watson007 on February 2, 2009 at 10:11 AM

I’d be interested in hearing DeathToMediaHacks take on this.

He’s been so spot on in his other analyzes this morning. I’ve already subscribed to his thrilling newsletter.

Good Lt on February 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM

I think the problem with liberal talk radio, is it is indistinguishable from news talk, or tv news.

Dasher on February 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Miller and Press are just angry people, and listeners don’t tune into “angry”.
Whining, anger, lying, just doesn’t work day after day, it catches up with you. They can’t even keep libeal talk show hosts on the radio in San Fran, the most liberal spot in the U.S., even they won’t listen to their own kind.
They should listen to Rush and his conservative radio “buddies” etc. and learn how to reach an audience…but then they would have to be conservative.

right2bright on February 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Pardon me for laughing out loud.

Bob's Kid on February 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM

The Fairness Doctrine just got pushed up on the agenda.

WisCon on February 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM

The reason Rush has such high number of listeners is all the Liberal Press tune in to his show so they can find out what is going on in the world and when they report it they’re so stupid they can’t get it right.

Herb on February 2, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Especially when they found out that “Obama 1260″ is a prediction for the Dow when the idiot messiah finally finishes his Precedency

Oh,

ouch

.

Bob's Kid on February 2, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Y’all don’t understand. They don’t succeed because they are much more intelligent than the rest of us. We are just too ignorant to grasp how much better off we’ll be if we embrace Libieral and Socialism. And beside’s, it’s all Booosh’s fault. This applies to all of the Trolls here on HotAir, also.

Well, as for this ol’ Southern boy, I value my Faith, my Family, my Country, and my Freedom, too much to listen to your ineffective ideology and participate in your cultist servitude to “Dear Leader”.

And Colmes leaving sure has hurt Hannity, huh? Not.

kingsjester on February 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

The move by Redskins owner Dan Snyder, who purchased the station, WWRC, and others in Washington last summer, leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet.

What, there’s no NPR in Washington DC?

piraticalbob on February 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

The move by Redskins owner Dan Snyder, who purchased the station, WWRC, and others in Washington last summer, leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet.

Hmm… sounds like preparation for the Fairness Doctrine! After all, our liberal politicians have no clue what goes on outside DC. Don’t laugh too hard yet.

Christian Conservative on February 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I don’t understand why anyone would be happy about such a loss. Do you only like to listen to your own opinions all day long?

Anyways, just like I said in the HotAir/PJTV post, I think we should separate a financial model with the actual ideas that are broadcast on the airwaves.

Last I checked, Obama won the election, so to claim there is no market for liberal/progressive ideas is ridiculous. (IMHO).

Personally, I kind of like Ed, but don’t really care for Stephanie Miller.

My favorite liberal talk show hosts are The Young Turks, Rachel Maddow, Thom Hartmann, and the Great One Mark Levin.

mycowardice on February 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM

My husband will not be pleased. He liked to listen to that station while stuck in traffic – it kept him angry and awake!

Of course, it’ll be nice to have a break from his rants about the “stupid people on that stupid station!” How was this station any different than NPR or listening to MSNBC?

Anna on February 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Well, I sure screwed up my 10:20.

But not as bad as the left is doing, yeah.

Bob's Kid on February 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Their problem is by far the biggest majority of liberals are only active in politics once every 2 or 4 years. If they paid any attention in between…they wouldn’t be liberal.

Kelligan on February 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Libieral=Liberalism
Oops. Preview is your friend.

kingsjester on February 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM

“leaves the city without a liberal radio outlet”

What’s NPR?

mred on February 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

They don’t need one, they’ve got most of the federal government.

johnsteele on February 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM

“Obama 1260″

Good lord. Maybe it should’ve been called “Kool-Aid 1260″ – at least they might have gotten some sponsorship dollars out of that.

CP on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Progressivism doesn’t really work well on the radio, there’s only so much faux outrage we can muster and talk radio is all about faux outrage. Our best stirring the pot stuff is racism and sexism and other oppression isms, but there is a huge progressive liberal blogosphere that deals with that. Also, most progressives I know are not in cars during the day, we’re in offices (like this one) or in front of a classroom somewhere or researching in a lab. Why you think Democracy Now comes on early in the mornings or late at night.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Also, most progressives I know are not in cars during the day, we’re in offices (like this one) or in front of a classroom somewhere or researching in a lab. Why you think Democracy Now comes on early in the mornings or late at night.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Yeah but aren’t the rest of them protesting something somewhere or too stoned to know? =)

Kelligan on February 2, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Why you think Democracy Now comes on early in the mornings or late at night.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Cause vampires dont like sunlight? :)

MDWNJ on February 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

The reason Rush has such high number of listeners is all the Liberal Press tune in to his show so they can find out what is going on in the world and when they report it they’re so stupid they can’t get it right.

Herb on February 2, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I agree with the first half of your observation. The MSM actually CAN get it right, but that’s against their agenda. As an example, when they said “Rush wants Obabma to fail” they all knew that Rush said, “If Obama wants to enact socialism, yes, I want him to fail.” They only quote Rush for the purpose of distorting what he really said to line up with their caricatures of conservatives.

perroviejo on February 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Bill Scrunty on February 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

You’re so right. Snyder’s mistake was in assuming that liberals actually want to be informed. That’s the last thing they want. Information, like reality, completely spoils the fantasy world they live in.

AZCoyote on February 2, 2009 at 10:28 AM

“All hail our Great and Glorious Chairman Mao Leader Obama Radio 97x, bam! The future of rock ‘n roll.

“All hail our Great and Glorious Leader Obama Radio 97x, bam! The future of rock ‘n roll.

“All hail our Great and Glorious Leader Obama Radio 97x, bam! The future of rock ‘n roll.”

– Raymond in Rainman, 2008 version.

Alana on February 2, 2009 at 10:28 AM

One week and their tired of The Chosen One already?

GarandFan on February 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

No liberal radio news outlet???

I mean, don’t they have a Public Radio station?

bluelightbrigade on February 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Anyways, just like I said in the HotAir/PJTV post, I think we should separate a financial model with the actual ideas that are broadcast on the airwaves.

mycowardice on February 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Er … this failure had nothing to do with a “financial model”. Let me read you the relevant section of the article again:

ratings collapsed to a level that could not be measured after the election

There is no financial model that can make a station work if it has no listeners.

progressoverpeace on February 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM

I demand a bail-out for this station now. Call it a pre-emptive one if they are not broke yet.

I need more Obama propaganda to shore up my faith in the almost black Jesus.

Ares on February 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM

They should have named it porn radio 1260 and they could have had it on during the super bowl.

Johan Klaus on February 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM

we’re in offices (like this one)

Are you supposed to be working in that office?

DarkCurrent on February 2, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Is it safe to assume that the liberal audience frequently employs impulse and cursory emotive thinking? It is extremely difficult for talk radio to reach people who are reluctant to embrace critical thinking. I’m not saying they can’t think critically, I’m saying they prefer not to.

Mark30339 on February 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I’m not saying they can’t think critically, I’m saying they prefer not to.
Mark30339 on February 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I take it you’ve never met “noneya” here at HA?

Bishop on February 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Why you think Democracy Now comes on early in the mornings or late at night.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Prime time in Pyongyang?

DarkCurrent on February 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM

@DeathToMediaHacks:
Most “progressives” are in an office during the day? As opposed to conservatives who are where exactly? I thought the stereotypical conservative was supposed to be some cubicle drone who dreamed one day of being a mid-level manager?

Strangely, my computer has access to the “Internet”. Most radio stations broadcast on said “Internet”.

strictnein on February 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM

“Hell, we just gotta bring back the Fairness Doctrine and give it a few billion or more in stimulus funds to make sure that these poor radio stations that try to get the liberal voice out there aren’t crushed by those big old nasty conservative stations owned by Rush and Fox and Haliburton and nasty people like them…”

There’s the gist of the typical liberal reaction to the free market at work when it comes to radio.

If you build it, they will come…so long as what you build is appealing to the market place on its own.

Has ANY serious person tried to explain to liberals that radio format is a lot more than a fancy title and a lot of hope? Just because you call it Radio Obama, Obama 24/7 or Air America it is not going to bring and keep an audience.

Content, substance, style of presentation…a lot goes in to nailing down a significant demographic, and keeping it, growing it. Shrill exhortations that “Bush Lied, My Dog Died!!” and angry angry guests and announcers/commentators who really should seek professional psychiatric help is not going to bring in an audience. Nor keep it.

With all the hundreds and hundreds of professional entertainment figures in the back picket of the Dems you’d think they’d put this braintrust to work….

Or does liberalism in modern America just not sell?

coldwarrior on February 2, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Also, most progressives I know are not in cars during the day, we’re in offices (like this one) or in front of a classroom somewhere or researching in a lab.

Or making giant paper-mache heads and burnable Cheney effigies.

Bishop on February 2, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Progressivism doesn’t really work well on the radio, there’s only so much faux outrage we can muster and talk radio is all about faux outrage. …
but there is a huge progressive liberal blogosphere that deals with that.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Well naturally not… When talking out loud, without a teleprompter, even the One puts foot to mouth quite often. Plus no need to fake outrage about the tax cheats, lobbyist, redistribution, and pork barrel nonsense… It’s all real.
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However, attempting to openly advocate infanticide, dividing our country by class for political reasons, and 1st-day-on-the-job surrender to the despots of the world is a hard sell when there is opportunity for opposing view to get in the way.
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You may-as-well try to get people to listen to how 911 was an inside job or something… Oh wait, they do that too. Admittedly Rosie did this well, and sadly… Rosie did this with children in the room…
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The great thing about the blogs is that liars have a minute to massage the message, and also, the insanity when need be. Real time radio does not allow that… so the messenger better be able to either do that message tweaking well on the fly, or be very consistently solid about the line they put for. Honesty.

RalphyBoy on February 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Well since no one else has said it-

OBAMA 1260 = Empty Air Space just like its name sake.
Sn/off

canditaylor68 on February 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM

coldwarrior on February 2, 2009 at 10:40 AM
“Hell, we just gotta bring back the Fairness Doctrine and give it a few billion or more in stimulus funds to make sure that these poor radio stations that try to get the liberal voice out there aren’t crushed by those big old nasty conservative stations owned by Rush and Fox and Haliburton and nasty people like them…”

Yeah, Obama can just take it from the defense budget. Another twenty or thirty percent will not matter.

Johan Klaus on February 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Obama Radio crashes and burns in DC=Failed.
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Incase no one else mentioned it… Rush +1

RalphyBoy on February 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM

I’m listening to a new station – Palin 2012.

faraway on February 2, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Wasn’t there a glaring omission of the fact that PROGRESSIVE RADIO ALMOST NEVER WORKS? I think this marriage of Progressive/Conservative on Snyder’s channel is supposed to be a model. Sneaky.

marklmail on February 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM

That’s because liberals are so scary smart that they just aren’t cut out for the talk radio format, with all it’s knuckle-dragging black and white moralizing. Liberals are all about nuance, with layers upon layers of complexity in their thinking. Oh, and HOPEENCHANGEOBAMAISGOD!!!111!

Kensington on February 2, 2009 at 10:59 AM

The very name “Obama 1260″ should have embarrassed the syndicated hosts who appeared on it. It paints them as nothing more than apologists for a man who hadn’t yet worked a single day in executive office. The name strongly suggests an overt campaign on behalf of Obama, and after the election, an effort to propagandize on his behalf. Would a station branding itself on Obamamania dare to criticize the One and ruin its own brand?

To be fair, Ed, the owners also rebranded their conservative station as “McCain 570″ during the election and didn’t do the same to 1260 so far as I know. If they ran an overt campaign for anyone, it was for Johnny Mac.

It looks to me like the owners did just what the article says they did: tried to take advantage of Obamamania to crank up their station’s ratings.

Jimmie on February 2, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I don’t understand why anyone would be happy about such a loss. Do you only like to listen to your own opinions all day long?

You think that we need a liberal talk radio station in order to hear liberal opinions? Liberal opinions are shoved down our throats everywhere we turn, 24/7. The only place we hear liberal opinions presented with any intellectual honesty, skepticism or balance is on conservative talk radio.

Kensington on February 2, 2009 at 11:01 AM

To be fair, Ed, the owners also rebranded their conservative station as “McCain 570″ during the election and didn’t do the same to 1260 so far as I know.

According to Kurtz, they rebranded 1260 as “Obama 1260.” Or are you saying that they didn’t rebrand until after the election?

Kensington on February 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Jimmie on February 2, 2009 at 11:01 AM

The lib format still failed.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Progressivism doesn’t really work well on the radio

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

“Progressivism doesn’t work anywhere … much less on the radio. That’s why progressive (read fascist, socialist) agendas must be shoved down the peoples throat by legislation or judicial fiat. If put to a vote it fails nearly every time.

See Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Obama

darwin on February 2, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Progressivism doesn’t really work well on the radio, there’s only so much faux outrage we can muster and talk radio is all about faux outrage. …
but there is a huge progressive liberal blogosphere that deals with that.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Not even a good try…the reason they fail is that when the progressives agenda is exposed, and honestly debated in the light of day, it falls apart as being logical or responsible.
That is why progressives fight so hard to keep conservatives off college campuses…yet conservatives don’t fight to keep progressives off.
We know that full disclosure only helps our cause, and “progressives” or liberals need to hide their intent.
A good example is the “stimulus” bill, they shove stuff in it that has not effect as a “stimulus” because it won’t stand on it’s own.
The blogosphere deals with it by banning dissent…if you state a conservative point, you get banned.
Notice on HotAir you haven’t been banned, nor have any of your liberal friends…
Take note, we allow dissenting points of views, the “progressives” do not…think about that.

right2bright on February 2, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Jimmie on February 2, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Also, great post about the ice storm. I wish for the sake of those folks the media would do more with it. Where’s Obama?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

In Websters next to “faux outrage” is a picture of the Air America staff.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Here’s more blowback: Customers Infuriated with restaurant’s Obama Room.

I guess they must be the other HALF of the country that didn’t vote for him.

Starbucks tried a tie in and got an earful too with their “I’m In” campaign to sign up for Barry’s Little Militia. So far I have seen one person with the sticker on.

PattyJ on February 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM

The lib format still failed.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2009 at 11:05 AM

The lib ideals is what eventually fails, not the format.
No liberal idea ever is accepted, unless the clothe it or package it as a conservative cause.
Radio, talk show, cannot do that, it eventually gets exposed as being liberal, and then it is doomed.

right2bright on February 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM

No liberal radio news outlet???

I mean, don’t they have a Public Radio station?

bluelightbrigade on February 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

LOL I totally forgot about NPR. Why would progressives tune into mindless yapping when there is high quality, in depth reporting on a variety of issues that neither talk radio nor the MSM can touch and from a slightly lefty perspective. I love that I hear prety dispassionate accounts of the toxic assets issues on Marketplace and then hear a really funny story about a stand up comic ruining a leukemia benefit on This American Life. On weekends there’s those goofy car talk people and in the evenings All Things Considered considers all sorts of things I hadnt thought to. If our media is NPR I’m proud to have that represent us, it’s good stuff. Can we also claim PBS because Jim Lehrer is *amazing*. As is Frontline.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I’m listening to a new station – Palin 2012.

+1

bluelightbrigade on February 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM

How in the world did this not violate campaign finance laws? Couldn’t calling it Obama 1260 be considered a campaign contribution?

And what of the value of the advertising that the station did? I guarantee that would have easily exceeded the limits on campaign contributions.

Of course, seeing as how DC was pretty much going to vote ~99% Obama anyway, I guess they figured there was nothing to gain by complaining.

wiserbud on February 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM

If our media is NPR I’m proud to have that represent us, it’s good stuff. Can we also claim PBS because Jim Lehrer is *amazing*. As is Frontline.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM

You can have them all, but pay for them yourselves, and stop stealing money from me to keep them going.

progressoverpeace on February 2, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Can we also claim PBS because Jim Lehrer is *amazing*. As is Frontline.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM

You can claim it and pay for it too.

DarkCurrent on February 2, 2009 at 11:15 AM

The difference being conservative listeners of Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc want to hear what these guys say and they want to converse.

For some mysterious reason Liberals don’t get enough out of lib radio to crave listening.Maybe they needed a laugh track. A cartoon voice sidekick? Libs vote lib. Why don’t they listen lib?

Rush has an underground lib audience who do not admit listening but occasionally break down and call him

Libs can read scripts with gusto. They ad lib scatalogical humor easily. Why can’t they converse?

Could it be the very X factor that makes men libs renders them too close minded to parse their own beliefs?

entagor on February 2, 2009 at 11:15 AM

The great thing about the blogs is that liars have a minute to massage the message, and also, the insanity when need be. Real time radio does not allow that… so the messenger better be able to either do that message tweaking well on the fly, or be very consistently solid about the line they put for. Honesty.

RalphyBoy on February 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM

This is what’s so dumb about talk radio. It’s quite literally a mile a minute, steam rolling ahead without a thought of reflection, reconsidering and zero time to evaluate the evidence. Screeners purposefully select foils for the hosts to play off of in the appearance of “balance” if a person manages to play dumb long enough to get through the minute they make a good point they are cut off. It’s not a “news” format. It’s a rally, it’s entertainment it’s stirring the pot. But “news”? No, not really.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Or making giant paper-mache heads and burnable Cheney effigies.

Bishop on February 2, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Or referring to a current POTUS as Ogabe, thereby linking him to an murderous thug in a backwards nation. In what ways are Obama and Mugabe similar? Let me guess — they both have six letters in their first name.

Idiots like you are the reason we just barely escaped the comedic prospect of having a certified segregationist as leader of the RNC. Even the close vote will be used against any Republican running with heavy RNC backing.

You’re probably not a racist. Too bad that’s not apparent.

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM

You do realize that labeling certain people as bigots only prods them to act in that way, don’t you?

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I also think that the Fairness Doctrine must be applied to music stations. How else would an all polka station survive in the DC market?

Laurence on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Having an Obama radio station is like constantly writing snarky mischaracterizations on Sarah months after she was defeated – what’s the point?

Fuquay Steve on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Or referring to a current POTUS as Ogabe, thereby linking him to an murderous thug in a backwards nation. In what ways are Obama and Mugabe similar? Let me guess — they both have six letters in their first name.

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM

You’re right. People should stick to names of the murderous thugs he helped campaigned for and sent money to … like Odinga.

progressoverpeace on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Time to apply the Fairness Doctrine to that station.

Oops – market took care of it first. Funny how that happens.

drunyan8315 on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

You do realize that labeling certain people bigots as bigots only prods them to act in that way, don’t you?

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

FTFY

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

and ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, AP, UPI, Newsleek, TIME, Us

I do admit it is but a small loss for the propaganda machine. I wanted to puke this weekend, i was channel surfing, and I noticed CNN had a Banner up at the bottom of the screen that read “CNN MAKING HISTORY!”

I believe they have accomplished their mission. They are no longer a news outlet, but a political action group, and should be treated as such, along with all the other so-called news stations.

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Listen to any of the black stations in DC and you will know that there is plenty of liberal radio commentary in DC, if you know where to find it and you don’t mind listening to hip-hop music in between liberal screeds.

rockmom on February 2, 2009 at 11:22 AM

I think the problem with liberal talk radio, is it is indistinguishable from news talk, or tv news IT IS COMPLETLY DEVOID OF ACTUAL FACTS.

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on February 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Let me guess — they both have six letters in their first name.

Yep, just like “Cheney” and “Hitler”.

drunyan8315 on February 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM

The Washington DC radio station calling itself Obama 1260 and featuring liberal talk stalwarts Bill Press, Ed Schultz, and Stephanie Miller has given up the ghost already, a victim of undetectable ratings.

I’d argue that DC is a tough market for partisan radio of whatever ideology. Politics are so much a part of the culture and impacts so many government workers, who wants to continue the work day dealing with public policy by listening to some pundit screaming about the same issues?
Laura Ingraham and Bill Bennett are conservative but their show covers an awful lot more than the narrow little world you get out of a show like Press’s.

Rush is on long-time dominant station WMAL (not Snyder’s station). It would be interesting to see how his ratings have been in the DC market since the filthy bastard took office.

highhopes on February 2, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Listen to any of the black stations in DC and you will know that there is plenty of liberal radio commentary in DC, if you know where to find it and you don’t mind listening to hip-hop music in between liberal screeds.

rockmom on February 2, 2009 at 11:22 AM

That’s true. But then they’ll mix it in with “how to be a real woman or man” stuff straight out of the conservative playbook. My people are interesting. Also Steve Harvey’s morning show is hilarious.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 11:30 AM

progressoverpeace on February 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Odinga ate your baby.

The Race Card on February 2, 2009 at 11:31 AM

This is what’s so dumb about talk radio.

DeathToMediaHacks on February 2, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Then don’t listen to it.

This is supposed to be a free country right? Remember, the 1st Amendment’s “freedom of speech” was conceived to protect political speech. Since “progressives” control nearly all media, the freedom of talk radio to operate without government interference or influence is absolutely essential to maintaining that principle.

darwin on February 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM

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