Ultimate heart-ache: Palin supports the stimulus? Update: Or does she?

posted at 2:00 pm on February 1, 2009 by Allahpundit

The same stimulus that head RINO John McCain opposes for its porkiness?

Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama’s economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Their state treasuries drained by the financial crisis, governors would welcome the money from Capitol Hill, where GOP lawmakers are more skeptical of Obama’s spending priorities.

The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state’s share of the package.

In fairness, there’s a difference between supporting a bill on the merits and agreeing to accept funds from a bill you oppose that’s destined to pass anyway. Jindal, for one, freely admits that he’d have voted against the bill in Congress but will take the money to help Louisiana. No sense standing on principle when it won’t do any good, right?

Right?

The most outspoken critic has been South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, who has warned for months of a steep spike in inflation and a severely weakened dollar if Obama’s plan passed. His state is on track to receive $2.1 billion of the stimulus money; Sanford has not yet said whether he would accept it.

“It’s incumbent on me as one of the nation’s governors to speak out against what I believe is ultimately incredibly harmful to the economy, to taxpayers and to the worth of the U.S. dollar,” Sanford said in an interview. “This plan is a huge mistake and is going to prolong and deepen this recession.”…

Associates say Sanford, who recently was elected chairman of the Republican Governors Association, has been disappointed in how few of his GOP colleagues have joined him in speaking out against the size and scope of Obama’s plan.

See Flip’s latest graphic for a handle on that size and scope. Exit question one: She was instantly forgiven for supporting amnesty and TARP. No biggie on this either, right? Exit question two: I’m getting yet another demerit on my conservative permanent record for even pointing this out, aren’t I?

Update: Commenters are yelling at me for (1) knocking Palin for supporting TARP when I supported it myself and (2) supposedly misrepresenting her position on the bill. First: I’m not knocking her for supporting TARP. See, e.g., NRO’s David Gitlitz on how TARP might well have saved the financial system. I brought it up here to illustrate how she gets a pass for heresies that lesser conservatives get hung for. Second: Quoting from above, “In fairness, there’s a difference between supporting a bill on the merits and agreeing to accept funds from a bill you oppose that’s destined to pass anyway.” I.e. I wasn’t suggesting she loves the bill on the merits, or that she’s suddenly a fan of trillion-dollar spending outlays. My point was that, like Jindal and unlike Sanford (maybe), she’s willing to accept federal spending as a way of kickstarting the economy provided it’s directed to “good” projects. I thought the grassroots conservative position on economic recovery was for the feds to either do nothing or do it all through tax cuts. Am I mistaken?

For the record, here’s a statement from her office dated January 12 emphasizing her opposition to earmarks in the stimulus. And here’s the conclusion of her letter of January 7 to Alaska’s congressional delegation urging fiscal responsibility in the final bill:

Although it is beyond my purview as Governor, I also urge you to consider how the economic stimulus package will affect the national debt and the future economic health of the country. The need for economic stimulus should not become an excuse for the continuation of the unsound policies of the past. The nation’s economy will never achieve long-term stability if we continue borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars from foreign countries, all the while Simultaneously sending huge amounts of money overseas to OPEC countries for oil that could be produced domestically. In this regard, I am astounded by amounts of a trillion dollars and more that are currently being discussed in some quarters.

I believe our nation is truly at an economic crossroads. Properly constructed, the economic stimulus package will greatly assist in sending our country down the right road. Without question, you will be called upon to make very difficult decisions on behalf of Alaska and the nation, and I want to assure you of the cooperation of my administration in achieving the best possible result.

Thanks to commenter INC for those links.

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If anything, Sarah at least provides distraction to the Left blogosphere that otherwise could be used to assassinate someone else like Michael Steele or Jindal or Romney.

So Sarah is just a convenient foil for you. That’s not very chivalrous.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Very few of Palin’s supporters are cultists. Here’s a litmus test: If you categorically refuse to read someone (me, Frum, Noonan, Brooks) because they criticize Palin, you’re a cultist. If not, not.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 8:30 PM

No, one is not. Because someone recognizes the facilitation for the advancement for the DemComs is done through compromise does not make one a cultist.

Why don’t you just take a job for the The One’s press already.

Oh, wait, you already are.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM

chunder, hell has indeed frozen over. Great post…can’t say I disagree with anything in it. Creepy, huh?

dakine on February 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM

I think it will last. I just want her to be the conservative everyone thinks she is. Notice, I never knock her for advocating drilling. Because she’s 100% right on that.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Fair enough, and when some of us criticize you for your dishonest Palin headlines, thinly veiled contempt and occasional outright hackery with regard to her, we just want you to be the conservative commentator that some think you are.

Notice, some of us never criticize you for attacking the Democrats, because you’re usually 100% right to do so.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 8:52 PM

I am a fan of Sarah Palin but I have never gotten a negative vibe from AP’s posts about her. I think some of her supporters are going a bit overboard in their criticism of him. He does ask some tough questions with a little snark to encourage debate but that doesn’t mean he is against her.

goat on February 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM

“TARP might well have saved the financial system.”

I guess they want more bank socialism because they need to gamble on more fraud.

Why not, if they lose you will pay for it.

getalife on February 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Her new energy plan is excellent… she is doing a great job in Alaska so far. I see no need to attack her, when we are supposedly in a post-partisan age (something I don’t want, as political debate is healthy), and she is just doing her job.

chunderroad on February 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM

DeathToMediaHacks on February 1, 2009 at 8:45 PM

I agree with most of that, however,if “o” doesn’t stop iran from getting nukes and EMP weapons,we’re screwed.

jerrytbg on February 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM

All this talk about “who Allah Pundit really is” reminds me of the old wrestling (circa late 60′s)shows where the bad guys were always masked and the “good guy” would try their best to unmask them….

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM

klickink, you’ve got some onions, I’ll say that for you. You come on a guys blog and ad hominem the shit out of him, while at the same time pimping your own lame ass blog. Ballsy for sure, but you’re still a lightweight tool.

dakine on February 1, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Fair enough, and when some of us criticize you for your dishonest Palin headlines, thinly veiled contempt and occasional outright hackery with regard to her, we just want you to be the conservative commentator that some think you are.

I can’t be a conservative commentator if I goof on Palin?

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:04 PM

I just want her to be the conservative everyone thinks she is. Notice, I never knock her for advocating drilling. Because she’s 100% right on that.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Perhaps, you should have written “I want her to be the fiscal conservative everyone thinks she is.”? Because she’s strong social conservative and from your writing it seems you find that off putting. Am I right?

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Grooooooan. Dude, I swear to you on a stack of Bibles and a stack of “god is not Great” books that I’m not David All. I goofed on one of his videos a long time ago, although I can’t find the post now. If you’re really paranoid about this, e-mail MKH and ask her. She knows me and All and she’ll assure you we’re different people.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Just let him remain deluded. It’s like trying to convince a conspiracy nut.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:05 PM

ExTex on February 1, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Oh. Because somebody did a Photoshop. And here I thought you were a wackjob.

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 9:05 PM

I can’t be a conservative commentator if I goof on Palin?

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:04 PM

That would just make you one of the many.

conservnut on February 1, 2009 at 9:05 PM

dakine on February 1, 2009 at 8:56 PM

How bout Hack and I go at it all the time and he can defend himself. I like you dakine because we’re almost kamaaina but don’t try to assume anything about till you’ve had the occasion to trade a few posts with me. I’m no more arrogant than Hack himself. Or you.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Very few of Palin’s supporters are cultists. Here’s a litmus test: If you categorically refuse to read someone (me, Frum, Noonan, Brooks) because they criticize Palin, you’re a cultist. If not, not.

Of course, there’s also the fact that, when push came to shove, a bunch of them chose Barack Obama last November, which seems like a pretty good reason to reassess their value as conservative thinkers. Bit of a difference, yet you probably can’t see that.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Grooooooan. Dude, I swear to you on a stack of Bibles and a stack of “god is not Great” books that I’m not David All. I goofed on one of his videos a long time ago, although I can’t find the post now. If you’re really paranoid about this, e-mail MKH and ask her. She knows me and All and she’ll assure you we’re different people.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM

SInce you’re one of the The One’s ones, just come out of the closet already. But then, maybe you equate yourself with the great pamphleteers of the past, think you need to hide your identity.

Of course, in reality most of those in the know knew exactly who those guys were.

Like Obama ain’t Lincoln, you ain’t Adams or Jefferson.

Hate to break it to you.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I read these posts and hear the voices. Mark Levin, Sean, Rush. Maybe the libs are right. We’re a party whose leaders are multi-millionare radio talk show hosts.

AYNBLAND on February 1, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Ever stop to think that it may be the other way around? I’m not a regular listener to any of the big talk-show hosts, but maybe one reason they have become so successful is that they give voice to ideas that people have held for quite a while, but never were able to voice themselves or hear or read in the MSM.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I can’t be a conservative commentator if I goof on Palin?

Yeah, that’s exactly what I wrote, Allah.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Allah did you see my comment about posting an interview somewhere?

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Touche!

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:04 PM

So you were goofing on her were you? Have you now admitted that you haven’t been 100% truthful about her? Oh no, you were just goofing on her. How convenient.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM

True dat hawk.

dakine on February 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Oh. Because somebody did a Photoshop. And here I thought you were a wackjob.

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Wasn’t Ex Tex the guy who coined the phrase, “Congratulations, Allah” after Fred imploded?

Perhaps, you should have written “I want her to be the fiscal conservative everyone thinks she is.”? Because she’s strong social conservative and from your writing it seems you find that off putting. Am I right?

No, because one of the nice things about Palin is she doesn’t govern as a social conservative. The media’s smeared her that way, but she’s actually been pretty casual about social legislation. It’s to her great credit.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Bit of a difference, yet you probably can’t see that.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

And you do because you belong to the Church of Sarah and have been exposed to the golden plates of wisdom?

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:08 PM

I can’t be a conservative commentator if I goof on Palin?
Yeah, that’s exactly what I wrote, Allah.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Ah-ha! Proof Allah and Kensington are the same person.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:09 PM

No, because one of the nice things about Palin is she doesn’t govern as a social conservative. The media’s smeared her that way, but she’s actually been pretty casual about social legislation. It’s to her great credit.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Then why do you continually compare her to Huckabee, who is mostly known for his social conservatism and being a former pastor?

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

SInce you’re one of the The One’s ones, just come out of the closet already. But then, maybe you equate yourself with the great pamphleteers of the past, think you need to hide your identity.

I don’t know what you mean by that. I didn’t vote Obama and don’t support his trillion-dollar crap sandwich. What are you basing this on?

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

klickink, you’ve got some onions, I’ll say that for you. You come on a guys blog and ad hominem the shit out of him, while at the same time pimping your own lame ass blog. Ballsy for sure, but you’re still a lightweight tool.

dakine on February 1, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Jealousy should be one of the seven deadly sins.

Of course, then it’d be 8.

Still, you can criticize my writing all you want. Doesn’t bother me. I have little time to maintain my lame site…

and besides…

knowing Liberty is dead…

it’s hard to get motivated to do something about it.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Yawn. Your shtick is tiresome, too.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Why let them make you feel embarrassed because you listen to talk radio?

I do. All the time. If you’re forming your liberal or progressive opinion by listening to CNN or MSNBC you’re just as jaded by the other sides propaganda.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Then why do you continually compare her to Huckabee, who is mostly known for his social conservatism and being a former pastor?

Because they’re similar in many other ways.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM

dakine on February 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Great then Bro. Peace.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Allah, it’s not you. For me today, it’s the beer and the game so it gets my combative nature going as I blog and watch the game.

It is just hard for me to NOT defend Sarah since she is making the left go completely nuts on so many sites. Soon it will be up in Bush degree. If she is gone, who other than maybe Rush can get them as freeked out? I don’t know.

I look at Sarah as the not-so-perfect QB of the team who is still learning, but there just isn’t any better options for the GOP at this time. She has potential, but I get concerned that we feed to much on our own.

On this site, I’m surprised how much the religious and non-religious posters clash, although I can tell much of it is not of the vicious nature.

I guess I long for the big tent party that is united and focused better. In the war, you are gonna lose some battles too.

I agree that some of the posting against you goes over the top. I’ll at least agree to that.

I would not want your job by the way.

Sapwolf on February 1, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

That’s a good point. We cultists don’t simply not read Buckley, Frum and Parker. It’s when they slap Sarah for something and then sit under Obama’s big tent, we get confused.

Heather Macdonald was critical of Sarah too but she didn’t get all hope n changey and we respect her view point, even if disagree with it.

It’s curious that you mention only those hopped on Obot groovy train or those who were full of elitist puss but forget Heather who made a substantial point of GOP embracing indentity politics.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:12 PM

promachus wrote:

I think many cultists have explained why they go nuclear on you. Even though we are all cultists, we have our own reasons but I’ll give the general culty consensus. It’s because we’ve been through a most vicious camspaign where we saw a decent politician being absolutely vilified like no one before with no pretense of even common courtesy accorded to public figures. That’s why when you misrepresent Sarah and load your posts with snark and then label us cultists, we’ll blow up.

The MSM’s Sarah-bashing is still not over. The MSM is still finding every public utterance of Palin’s to comb it for comedic fodder, and they have been very careful to continue spreading outright lies as if they were accepted, established fact.

The latest example is MSNBC’s Norah O’Donnell giggling at the notion of Palin attending a Governors’ function hosted by President Obama (cringe). From NewsBusters:

O’Donnell spoke with Republican strategist John Feehery and Democratic strategist Morris Reid and played a clip of Palin explaining why she was attending the dinner: “Alfalfa dinner, yes. In fact, that’s because President Obama is scheduled to be there. And how often will I have an opportunity to have dinner with the president. I will take up that offer to do so, yeah.” O’Donnell then turned to Reid and asked: “Didn’t she call him a terrorist on the campaign trail?”

L.N. Smithee on February 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Gee.. the trolls here really seem to have missed the target… The rotten meat is in the White House, Senate, and Congress. Sarah is just a good clean All American Girl doing her job.
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If you’re so upset that she may ask for some of the stimulus money for her state, go to the source and crap on the Dems for dumping the piggy bank on the floor in the first place.
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And in case you haven’t noticed… The One has already started surrendering to the Iranians… Can shariah law be far behind?

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM

SInce you’re one of the The One’s ones, just come out of the closet already. But then, maybe you equate yourself with the great pamphleteers of the past, think you need to hide your identity.

Of course, in reality most of those in the know knew exactly who those guys were.

Like Obama ain’t Lincoln, you ain’t Adams or Jefferson.
Hate to break it to you.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

That’s a helluva leap.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

It is just hard for me to NOT defend Sarah since she is making the left go completely nuts on so many sites. Soon it will be up in Bush degree. If she is gone, who other than maybe Rush can get them as freeked out? I don’t know.

I don’t mind people defending her. The fact is, the media’s been awful to her. Polls bear that out. I just don’t like when our commenters take a different stance with me vis-a-vis Palin than they do with other subjects. Normally, if I write something people disagree with, I get e-mails like, “You missed this.” When I write about Palin, I get, “Why is this douche writing for Hot Air?” Relax.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Why let them make you feel embarrassed because you listen to talk radio?

I do. All the time. If you’re forming your liberal or progressive opinion by listening to CNN or MSNBC you’re just as jaded by the other sides propaganda.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

I’m not embarrassed. I just don’t have the time.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I don’t know what you mean by that. I didn’t vote Obama and don’t support his trillion-dollar crap sandwich. What are you basing this on?

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Tell it someone that can’t read. Your posts reveal you for The One’s lackey that your are. You’re worse than Steele or McCain. I’ve been reading between the lines for nearly 30 years. There’s enough people commenting on the obvious besides me.

I don’t even know why you bother arguing differently.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

It’s curious that you mention only those hopped on Obot groovy train or those who were full of elitist puss but forget Heather who made a substantial point of GOP embracing indentity politics.

Nothing curious about it; Heather who?

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Because they’re similar in many other ways.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Which ways? Because I loathed everything about Huckabee since I first laid eyes on him, but I liked Palin immediately when she was introduced in Dayton, despite not liking her before then because of her ANWR position. I worried when her name was being floated, because I knew how the media would paint her. It’s ridiculous how predictable our culture actually is.

chunderroad on February 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Sarah is just a good clean All American Girl doing her job.

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM

I have it on good authority she is actually Russian and was left in a basket on the US side. Have you ever seen her birth certificate? Neither have I … Hmmmmmm

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM

AP, come on don’t start being reasonable after all this. keep up your shtick. You give her credit about being social conservatism do you? Then what’s that joke about her entire national candidacy being based on just babies or values.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Allah said, “I can’t be a conservative commentator if I goof on Palin?”

You want to be a deceitful conservative commentator, Allah? America can certainly do without those, and be much better off.

“Like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows and death, so is the man who deceives his neighbor, And says, ‘Was I not joking?’” (Prov 26:18,19)

Paging Michelle Malkin.

dtestard on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Normally, if I write something people disagree with, I get e-mails like, “You missed this.” When I write about Palin, I get, “Why is this douche writing for Hot Air?” Relax.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Which wouldn’t have happened without the media onslaught that began on August 29. Anyway, cannibalism isn’t going to get us anywhere.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I can’t be a conservative commentator if I goof on Palin?

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Neither the Obamaists nor the Palinists offer any rewards for humorous intellect when directed at the object of their affections. There was never one yet that showed any interest in it.

Tav on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

That’s a helluva leap.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Where? Where’s the leap!?! The One’s egotism or AP’s lackeyism?!?!

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I’m not embarrassed. I just don’t have the time.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

It’s easier for me these days because I’m off the flightline and mostly in an office and no one can really tell me what to listen to. (It is great being king). I listen while I work.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

I get, “Why is this douche writing for Hot Air?” Relax.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

You’re no douche AP….well, perhaps a Summers Eve. ;-)

conservnut on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Neither the Obamaists nor the Palinists offer any rewards for humorous intellect when directed at the object of their affections. There was never one yet that showed any interest in it.

Tav on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Where’s the humor?

Lay off the weed, dude, you’ll live longer.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I directed that part of the post to Allah Pundit, not you.

Heather is the immigration hawk who writes on City Journal. She and Laura had a big fight.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Your assumption that he equates himself with Adams and Jefferson.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Which ways? Because I loathed everything about Huckabee since I first laid eyes on him, but I liked Palin immediately when she was introduced in Dayton, despite not liking her before then because of her ANWR position.

Here.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Paging Michelle Malkin.

dtestard on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Be careful what you ask for.

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Because they’re similar in many other ways.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM

once again you are dead wrong … by your posting on this stimulus and this comment … you don’t research the issue

Palin has her personal beliefs but does not enforce them on Alaska, she is very much the libertarian on social issues.

Good grief dude, do some research

it is not that hard for god’s sake

she is nothing like Huckabee and she has not governed like the dude

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

read these posts and hear the voices. Mark Levin, Sean, Rush. Maybe the libs are right. We’re a party whose leaders are multi-millionare radio talk show hosts.

AYNBLAND on February 1, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Ever stop to think that it may be the other way around? I’m not a regular listener to any of the big talk-show hosts, but maybe one reason they have become so successful is that they give voice to ideas that people have held for quite a while, but never were able to voice themselves or hear or read in the MSM.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Yeah, I’ve considered it but when you see people adopting the buzz phrases of hosts, it’s pretty clear. Don’t get me wrong, they are an outlet in a sea of liberalism. I just recoil when people regurgitate their narratives…like this Palin thing. My confidence is swayed by how people on THIS BLOG backed Romney (a moderate to liberal) after talk hosts flew his flag in the late moments on the GOP primary. It’s fake and smells of the kind of hagiography that makes Dail Kos a Non Free thinking Joke. I like Levin, Hannity, Laura and Rush but they’re entertainers. I take them as that, many don’t.

AYNBLAND on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM

If you’re trying to make fun the Palin conspiracy theorists, they’re beyond parody.

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Uh, wait one…was that a SERIOUS commercial for cash4gold.com?

Hilarious.

Okay, continue.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 9:18 PM

LOL probably so.

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:20 PM

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Your assumption that he equates himself with Adams and Jefferson.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

The why the secrecy. Why the denials when called out.

Examine his writing – and his responses tonight. The guy is as delusional as The One.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Heather is the immigration hawk who writes on City Journal. She and Laura had a big fight.

Yeah, I was just being glib. I do know, vaguely, anyway, who Heather Mac Donald is; I’ve just never been all that impressed on those few occasions I’ve encountered her punditry.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Normally, if I write something people disagree with, I get e-mails like, “You missed this.” When I write about Palin, I get, “Why is this douche writing for Hot Air?” Relax.

So, that’s why you keep lighting the fuse purposefully. Willingly misrepresent her and then watch the fun? Did it ever enter your thick head that we get all passionate because you misrepresent her in the first place.

Once or twice is OK but you kept doing this in nearly all of your posts for three months now. Our culty anger is incremental. We can’t just read one post of yours and then disassoicate that with the crap that you wrote previously and reasonably argue with that day’s smear alone. If we don’t do that, we are cultists. Perfect.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Damn, I feel like some kid tugging on a strangers coattail. “Hey, Mister”

Allah, I’ve got an interview I did with a Silver Star recipient from my unit that we were going to post on a site that we’re having trouble getting off the ground. Can you help me find a good site to post this great Americans story?

Please!

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Have the 2012 GOP primaries begun already? LOL

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:23 PM

So Sarah is just a convenient foil for you. That’s not very chivalrous.

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM

At a bare minimum she is providing that distraction whether she wants it or not. Some of the stuff on the other sites is pretty bad.

I think part of the issue is that Sarah fans like me see her ripped up on other sites in the comments section of some MSM articles and then if we go to HotAir, we already have a chip on our shoulder and pick a fight at the slightest criticism of her.

I gotta check my e-mail backlog.

Goodnight HotAir, it’s fun blogging here while watching the Bowl.

Sapwolf on February 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Have you ever seen her birth certificate? Neither have I … Hmmmmmm

Bradky on February 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Speaking of which… What planet do lefty trolls come from? I mean…

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Why the secrecy? Considering all the kooks out there, I don’t blame Allah in the least for remaining anonymous. Just using the name Allahpundit alone is probably worthy of a fatwa in certain circles.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Where’s the humor?

Lay off the weed, dude, you’ll live longer.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM

The person who cannot see the humorous intellectual in it all should not interrupt the person who does.

Tav on February 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Have the 2012 GOP primaries begun already? LOL

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:23 PM

It will be ironic if Palin ends up not running in 2012 (which is a real possibility). All this debating for nothing really.

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:26 PM

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:26 PM

I like her chances if she prepares.

OMG HAWK IS A PALIN DRUID. KILL EM, KILL EM!!!

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:27 PM

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM

I think it’s either Uranus or Theiranus.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:28 PM

It will be ironic if Palin ends up not running in 2012 (which is a real possibility). All this debating for nothing really.

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:26 PM

She’d probably be better off if she didn’t. The real cult is not going to allow their Messiah to be fired.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:28 PM

When I read Palin’s critics, Noonan, Frum, et al, I don’t get any substance to the criticism. It seems pretty empty and somewhat petty on their part. The impression I get is because she, Palin, is not apart of the beltway cocktail circuit bluebloods. And therefore some country bumpkin.

I don’t see her as a cult figure at all, but an honest, off the bargain shelf, regular person. You want cultist fever, just look at the MSM and just about everyone that voted for Hussein.

Look at the differences between Hussein and Palin. One is doom and gloom, the other is confident and self assured. I would go as far as Reaganesque in message. I hear triteness from Hussein’s speeches and articulatory in Palin’s message. I hear what I am thinking from Palin.

Kini on February 1, 2009 at 9:28 PM

It will be ironic if Palin ends up not running in 2012 (which is a real possibility). All this debating for nothing really.

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Debating is not a destination, it is a journey.

Tav on February 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM

But then, maybe you equate yourself with the great pamphleteers of the past, think you need to hide your identity.

Of course, in reality most of those in the know knew exactly who those guys were.

Like Obama ain’t Lincoln, you ain’t Adams or Jefferson.

Hate to break it to you.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Before you start casting witty aspersions about, you might actually want to have half a clue about the subject matter. Allah had very good reason to assume a nom-de-plume several years ago. It very much predates his appearance here.

Which is why these idiotic attempts to out him are borderline dangerous. Whether or not Allah is All, someone with a grudge against him for his scathing rips on radical Islam a few years ago may get the wrong idea, and try to exact some revenge.

Everyone needs to take a deep breath.

Allah. You still rock the house.

nukemhill on February 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM

nukemhill on February 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM

No need to worry. Other posters here said we who fear Radical Islam are overreacting. We’re safe here in our country. Really!

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Why the secrecy? Considering all the kooks out there, I don’t blame Allah in the least for remaining anonymous. Just using the name Allahpundit alone is probably worthy of a fatwa in certain circles.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Talk about delusional…give it a break already with the Muslim BS already. Like those idiots are going to waste their time going after some online hack!

D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L.

The name’s a schitck. So’s his facade of being on the RIght.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:31 PM

I think it’s either Uranus or Theiranus.

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Two good guesses… Butt either way, I’m sure that there is no intelligent life there….. ever.
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PS… Kindly look before you flush, just in case.

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM

The name’s a schitck. So’s his facade of being on the RIght.

Super.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Normally, if I write something people disagree with, I get e-mails like, “You missed this.” When I write about Palin, I get, “Why is this douche writing for Hot Air?” Relax.

You know maybe if you just said Sarah Palin supports stimulus?, we would have sent those links to you, to claim the case is way more complicated than that.

But no, you have to be a drama queen and add all heart-ache masala to it and then do a come on make me a martyr dare at the end, a cutesy Nicole touch and rub it in our face. After that, you were expecting emails with links, were you?

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:35 PM

I really hope Sarah doesn’t support this legislation because she is my GOD and I don’t feel right about disagreeing with her on anything substantive.

It’s like…does Sarah support things because they are conservative, or are things conservative because Sarah supports them??? The old Euthyphro dilemma. Old as time.

My mind can’t cope with the possibility of Sarah supporting something that I previously thought conservative.

alex342 on February 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Allahpundit, at the risk of sounding like a suck-up, I enjoy your work here, whether I agree with it all the time or not. I think some people just need to take a few deep breaths. Jeez.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:37 PM

I hear what I am thinking from Palin.

Kini on February 1, 2009 at 9:28 PM

And as for the few real leftist… that I have know for years… I hear from the One… what they have been wishing for for a long time. Sad.

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Also, is Allahpundit secretly Joseph Mengele? Because he does support TARP and um…he’s always bashing Sarah so I assume his real identity must be the Anti-Christ.

alex342 on February 1, 2009 at 9:37 PM

AP, Admit it, you blew this up. That’s why you are spending so much time in the comments. A little bashful, are we?

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:38 PM

But no, you have to be a drama queen and add all heart-ache masala to it and then do a come on make me a martyr dare at the end, a cutesy Nicole touch and rub it in our face. After that, you were expecting emails with links, were you?

promachus on February 1, 2009 at 9:35 PM

LMAFO

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:38 PM

I think some people just need to take a few deep breaths. Jeez.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:37 PM

True dat.

terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 9:38 PM

The name’s a schitck. So’s his facade of being on the RIght.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Eh, I don’t begrudge anyone their Internet anonymity. I stick to one moniker wherever I go and strive not to use anonymity as a license to be a jerk (sometimes failing, admittedly), but I’ve just never been comfortable with the kind of exposure that Google makes possible.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:38 PM

I really hope Sarah doesn’t support this legislation because she is my GOD and I don’t feel right about disagreeing with her on anything substantive.

It’s like…does Sarah support things because they are conservative, or are things conservative because Sarah supports them??? The old Euthyphro dilemma. Old as time.

My mind can’t cope with the possibility of Sarah supporting something that I previously thought conservative.

alex342 on February 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Why do you even care? If I’m not mistaken, you’re an Obama supporter. You have your own cultists to worry about, and your own cult leader to monitor.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

here is her release dated TODAY:

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1618

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Also, is Allahpundit secretly Joseph Mengele? Because he does support TARP and um…he’s always bashing Sarah so I assume his real identity must be the Anti-Christ.

alex342 on February 1, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Laugh it up, fuzzball.

klickink.wordpress.com on February 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I don’t mind people defending her. The fact is, the media’s been awful to her. Polls bear that out. I just don’t like when our commenters take a different stance with me vis-a-vis Palin than they do with other subjects. Normally, if I write something people disagree with, I get e-mails like, “You missed this.” When I write about Palin, I get, “Why is this douche writing for Hot Air?” Relax.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I agree, like I’ve said I have never read negative into your posts about her and I am a fan of hers. You ask some good questions. We agree that we think she supports the GOP version of a stimulus and not the Pelosi-Reid version. I have no problem with targeted spending on real infrastructure projects as all states including hers could use some help.

goat on February 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

AP, Admit it, you blew this up. That’s why you are spending so much time in the comments. A little bashful, are we?

I didn’t blow it up but people obviously are exercised about it. This is why I say it’s not worth posting about Palin. i can’t win.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:40 PM

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

You are mistaken, but I’m sure that’s nothing new.

alex342 on February 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Also, is Allahpundit secretly Joseph Mengele? Because he does support TARP and um…he’s always bashing Sarah so I assume his real identity must be the Anti-Christ.

alex342 on February 1, 2009 at 9:37 PM

This doesn’t make any sense at all. Joseph Mengele? What are you talking about?

President Barack Obama is the Antichrist.

Kensington on February 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM

I didn’t blow it up but people obviously are exercised about it. This is why I say it’s not worth posting about Palin. i can’t win.

Allahpundit on February 1, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Yeah you did

you took an AP story and ran with it

and you at the very least could have checked her official releases, it would have taken 5 minutes at the most

could have checked out Alaskan media as well for her comments on the stimulus

but ……

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Allah, Okay, I found your email. I’ll just send the interview to you if you don’t mind. Sniff, sniff…

Do I smell funny?

hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I agree, like I’ve said I have never read negative into your posts about her and I am a fan of hers. You ask some good questions.

goat on February 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Well, the fact is, if Sarah Palin does choose to run in 2012, she’s going to have to answer some tough questions from within her party anyway. I don’t think those legit questions should preemptively be considered as coming from a Kos Kid.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 9:43 PM

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