Ultimate heart-ache: Palin supports the stimulus? Update: Or does she?

posted at 2:00 pm on February 1, 2009 by Allahpundit

The same stimulus that head RINO John McCain opposes for its porkiness?

Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama’s economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Their state treasuries drained by the financial crisis, governors would welcome the money from Capitol Hill, where GOP lawmakers are more skeptical of Obama’s spending priorities.

The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state’s share of the package.

In fairness, there’s a difference between supporting a bill on the merits and agreeing to accept funds from a bill you oppose that’s destined to pass anyway. Jindal, for one, freely admits that he’d have voted against the bill in Congress but will take the money to help Louisiana. No sense standing on principle when it won’t do any good, right?

Right?

The most outspoken critic has been South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, who has warned for months of a steep spike in inflation and a severely weakened dollar if Obama’s plan passed. His state is on track to receive $2.1 billion of the stimulus money; Sanford has not yet said whether he would accept it.

“It’s incumbent on me as one of the nation’s governors to speak out against what I believe is ultimately incredibly harmful to the economy, to taxpayers and to the worth of the U.S. dollar,” Sanford said in an interview. “This plan is a huge mistake and is going to prolong and deepen this recession.”…

Associates say Sanford, who recently was elected chairman of the Republican Governors Association, has been disappointed in how few of his GOP colleagues have joined him in speaking out against the size and scope of Obama’s plan.

See Flip’s latest graphic for a handle on that size and scope. Exit question one: She was instantly forgiven for supporting amnesty and TARP. No biggie on this either, right? Exit question two: I’m getting yet another demerit on my conservative permanent record for even pointing this out, aren’t I?

Update: Commenters are yelling at me for (1) knocking Palin for supporting TARP when I supported it myself and (2) supposedly misrepresenting her position on the bill. First: I’m not knocking her for supporting TARP. See, e.g., NRO’s David Gitlitz on how TARP might well have saved the financial system. I brought it up here to illustrate how she gets a pass for heresies that lesser conservatives get hung for. Second: Quoting from above, “In fairness, there’s a difference between supporting a bill on the merits and agreeing to accept funds from a bill you oppose that’s destined to pass anyway.” I.e. I wasn’t suggesting she loves the bill on the merits, or that she’s suddenly a fan of trillion-dollar spending outlays. My point was that, like Jindal and unlike Sanford (maybe), she’s willing to accept federal spending as a way of kickstarting the economy provided it’s directed to “good” projects. I thought the grassroots conservative position on economic recovery was for the feds to either do nothing or do it all through tax cuts. Am I mistaken?

For the record, here’s a statement from her office dated January 12 emphasizing her opposition to earmarks in the stimulus. And here’s the conclusion of her letter of January 7 to Alaska’s congressional delegation urging fiscal responsibility in the final bill:

Although it is beyond my purview as Governor, I also urge you to consider how the economic stimulus package will affect the national debt and the future economic health of the country. The need for economic stimulus should not become an excuse for the continuation of the unsound policies of the past. The nation’s economy will never achieve long-term stability if we continue borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars from foreign countries, all the while Simultaneously sending huge amounts of money overseas to OPEC countries for oil that could be produced domestically. In this regard, I am astounded by amounts of a trillion dollars and more that are currently being discussed in some quarters.

I believe our nation is truly at an economic crossroads. Properly constructed, the economic stimulus package will greatly assist in sending our country down the right road. Without question, you will be called upon to make very difficult decisions on behalf of Alaska and the nation, and I want to assure you of the cooperation of my administration in achieving the best possible result.

Thanks to commenter INC for those links.


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LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Don’t forget FOCA. He loves kicking that cat too.

ericdijon on February 1, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Might as well support it now. If it fails just blame the president. Worked for the Democrats on the Iraq war.

Dash on February 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Yeah, good point.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM
You send the crazy aunt on a long walk, on a wintery night, in her pyjamas.

LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Yes, I would like to evict Obama, but it’s not likely to happen soon. In the meantime, he’s throwing good money after bad. If one can’t stop that, then responsible people like Sarah Palin should get funds for sound projects.

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Well I absolutely DISAGREE WITH HER!

This isn’t a stimulus package…as Glen Beck put it I think Friday. This Stimulus Package, is like Porn For Progressives, paraphrasing.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/list/198/?sid=198&SHOWALL_3=1

Dr Evil on February 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM

The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state’s share of the package.

And where is the AP getting this information from? I read this morning that Palin isn’t giving interviews or answering reporters questions while in Washington. So I’m willing to wait until Palin actually does something I disapprove of before commenting about it as if it were already done.

Hog Wild on February 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Might as well support it now. If it fails just blame the president. Worked for the Democrats on the Iraq war.
Dash on February 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Now THAT is funny.

Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM

This entire thread is just a baiting exercise.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 2:36 PM

This routine is getting pretty lame.

Ronnie on February 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Exactly. I would go further. You have to be against the stimulus, but for a governor to reject that much money going to your state is simply not feasible. It´s political suicide. It is not realistic. All of you who support Sarah, do you want the media to crow when her approval rating goes below 40? Because that is what´s going to happen.

One reason why I prefer mayors and governors over legislators (like Obama) is that they are forced to live in the real world.

el gordo on February 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM

You can hear Glen Beck on Imus last Friday. He comments on this Stimulus Package.

http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1137197&spid=22807

Dr Evil on February 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 2:20 PM

If AP is honest he would add this as an update…otherwise he is engaging in propaganda.

Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM

So many whiners on this site. It’s kind of disgusting

blatantblue on February 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM

yeah right, next thing you are gonna tell me is that she winked at you when she was really winking at me…..

Noneya on February 1, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Sad news, Krispy Kreme is having a real problem pulling out of bankruptcy…let’s hope that Dunkin Donuts opens up in Castro for you…

right2bright on February 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM

And where is the AP getting this information from? I read this morning that Palin isn’t giving interviews or answering reporters questions while in Washington. So I’m willing to wait until Palin actually does something I disapprove of before commenting about it as if it were already done.

Hog Wild on February 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM

I agree

but it seems as if “conservative” websites do not have a problem with running with the AP story

even though if hotair.com had done their research they would realize that all of the actions taken by Governor Palin over the last two months would show that she is not in favor of this bill. Including her letter to the congressional delegation, her comments at the Governor’ Assoc. meeting and he comments in the AK press.

but who needs research?

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM

This entire thread is just a baiting exercise.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 2:36 PM

This routine is getting pretty lame.

Ronnie on February 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Mine, or the thread? LOL I only say that because we had another thread on the same topic with 300+ posts.

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM

So many whiners on this site. It’s kind of disgusting

blatantblue on February 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM

That’s what all homosexual communists say….

LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM

One reason why I prefer mayors and governors over legislators (like Obama) is that they are forced to live in the real world.
el gordo on February 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Excuse me, Ogabe DID live in the real world. Why, once he actually brought home a loaf of bread himself rather than ordering the butler to get it.

A profile in courage, President Barack Ogabe.

Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM

allah cant even believe his own post. I really hope he isnt that dumb. He is probably just sitting back in his la-z boy and just laughing his but off right now.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Every state has submitted projects. Check out
Stimulus Watch

Don’t miss what Puerto Rico is asking for!

debg on February 1, 2009 at 2:15 PM

I like that site a lot. Which PR project were you talking about? They’ve got quite a few requests listed. The one that seemed pretty egregious, of the ones with large price tags, was $150 million to expand some little league ballparks and create 43 jobs. That’s $3.5 million/job!

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/3338

If there’s a God, the GOP will vote straight party against this monstrosity and it will be an albatross around the Dems necks for the rest of time. Whenever a Dem comes close to getting elected to national office, an ad will be played detailing the crap in this bill and that Dem will go down in flames.

venividivici on February 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM

That’s what all homosexual communists say….
LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM

If you had said, “homosexual communist IED-planter” I would thought you were hating on noneya, and I would have had to report you.

Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM

I’m just goofing…..it’s a dull Sunday….nothing much going on

LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:47 PM

so when does hotair.com blame Palin for the Volcano that is about to erupt in AK?

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Apparently some padded nancy-boys are playing a game of catch today….

LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:49 PM

so when does hotair.com blame Palin for the Volcano that is about to erupt in AK?

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Upinak PMSing again?

LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Palin is a Marxist and wants to triple the stimulus package and believes in gay marriage and is pro-choice and want to arrest Rush Limbaugh and exile him to St. Helena.

Let’s get real. Sarah wants the money her state is entitled to for infrastructure. She recently wrote a letter to the Alaskan delegation outlining this. She strongly opposes any porkulus.

AP, I have never called you this before, but you are an idiot, sir, madam or whoever you are!

technopeasant on February 1, 2009 at 2:50 PM

If AP is honest he would add this as an update…otherwise he is engaging in propaganda.

Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Everything Allah needs is right here. Note how she uses Obama and Reid’s own words as ammunition against a bloated stimulus package.

I do not have Sarahmania, but she is dead on with her vision for the stimulus package and her caveat that it must serve the national interest.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Palin is a flake who doesn’t understand the core Republican value of limited government. I’m a RINO and proud to be a RINO, but I will be upset with Collins or Snowe if they vote for the stimulus. It’s even worse when someone is alleged to be the champion of the right-wing of the party and they support the atrocious Democrat stimulus giveaway.

thuja on February 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM

I think Palin knows that this is a golden opportunity to make a political play that will pay dividends if she runs against Obama in 2012.

LimeyGeek on February 1, 2009 at 2:53 PM

buy danish, your links you posted were great to read. Really shows how much against the porkulus she really is.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Mark Sanford 2012!

Rae on February 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Palin is a flake…
thuja on February 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Pot meet kettle.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 2:55 PM

I’m reading Barry Goldwater’s book this month, for the first time, and it’s funny that I just got to the chapter on “States Rights” in time to read you blog about this. Goldwater points out that giving money to the states is just as big an infringement on their independence as overriding their laws is. It is an entirely legal, but completely immoral, form of coercion. It is coercion of the states’ elected officials, because they know that if they reject billions of dollars of “free” money that they’ll lose their jobs. Sarah Palin and the other governors have no choice but to support this bill, because to refuse the money would be political suicide. Especially because (1) it’s going to pass anyway and (2) the federal government is taking the money from the states, reducing their ability to make their own spending choices.

If I were her, I would take the money and then try to free it from federal control and spend it on what my state wanted — sort of the way she did with the “bridge to nowhere” money.

joe_doufu on February 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/ESLletter_Jan12-2009.pdf

AP, you can get your demerit expunged if you read the paragraph at the bottom of page 2 on this PDF and take it to heart.

This is a letter (Jan. 7?) to the Alaska delegation in DC, explaining which infrastructure plans the state supports to get any money from the stimulus distributed fairly among states. The paragraph I refer to talks about the folly of borrowing huge amounts of money & the economic problems caused by sending energy $ overseas.

She’s not saying “please pass the stimulus!” It reads more like, “If you idiots are really going to borrow a trillion dollars, at least split it fairly among the states, and put our share into infrastructure, energy and military investments.”

cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM

ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM

The thread. Reading dishonest headlines designed just to get comments has become pretty tiresome. Of course, if he’s being genuine, then he should stop whining about his demerits. He’ll defend it as some crusade against Palin worship, but the only one obsessed with her is him.

Ronnie on February 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM

Considering the fact that Obama would not even be president if it were not for his ability to wow an audience, I don’t think Democrats are in any position to be talking vain and vacuous political leaders.

Terrye on February 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM

You guys are just as bad as the hard-core Obama cultists. A true case on why she’s the future of your party has never been made, you guys just wanna ogle the “naughty librarian” to get your rocks off for 4-8 years as your wives gain more weight and continue to ignore you….

Noneya on February 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Everything Allah needs is right here. Note how she uses Obama and Reid’s own words as ammunition against a bloated stimulus package.

I do not have Sarahmania, but she is dead on with her vision for the stimulus package and her caveat that it must serve the national interest.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM

“The governor has recommended five specific projects for the stimulus package, all of them in accordance with previous guidelines requiring that any individual spending requests must be in the national interest. Those projects are infrastructure upgrades to accommodate the natural gas pipeline, which will bring clean fuel to Lower 48 markets, and the Kodiak Launch Facility, which is important for the nation’s defense. While the latest comments in D.C. suggest that no earmarks will be accepted, the governor is hopeful that the extraordinary nature of these national-interest projects will allow their inclusion.”

“While others have compiled wish-lists of Alaska-specific projects, many of them meritorious, the governor says the administration will not be commenting on or ranking them, given that they might not be considered for the stimulus package. “We don’t want to get hopes up among community leaders that their local projects are likely to be included, when that probably won’t be the case,” she said.”

“It’s understandable that many Alaskans want to see some local projects advanced,” Gov. Palin said. “But it’s pretty clear that it won’t happen in this stimulus package, and we need to be realistic about that.”

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM

She was instantly forgiven for supporting amnesty and TARP.

What? She was? By whom? If any conservatives are supporting Palin despite her supporting amnesty, TARP AND this, then they are not conservatives and just as bad as Obama’s cult worshippers, putting a politician above principle(s). Pathetic.

Sarah Palin is no better or worse than any other flawed politician.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 2:58 PM

You guys are just as bad as the hard-core Obama cultists. A true case on why she’s the future of your party has never been made, you guys just wanna ogle the “naughty librarian” to get your rocks off for 4-8 years as your wives gain more weight and continue to ignore you….

Noneya on February 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Well , it did work for them right..

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 2:58 PM

What? She was? By whom? If any conservatives are supporting Palin despite her supporting amnesty, TARP AND this, then they are not conservatives and just as bad as Obama’s cult worshippers, putting a politician above principle(s). Pathetic.

Sarah Palin is no better or worse than any other flawed politician.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 2:58 PM

please, do not be an uneducated voter

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 2:59 PM

This will come back to haunt Palin’s presidential chances, once the world sees this stimulus bill doesn’t stimulate a single thing, other than Chris Matthew’s leg.

iamse7en on February 1, 2009 at 3:00 PM

you guys just wanna ogle the “naughty librarian” to get your rocks off for 4-8 years as your wives gain more weight and continue to ignore you….

Noneya on February 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Projecting, are we?

fogw on February 1, 2009 at 3:02 PM

please, do not be an uneducated voter

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 2:59 PM

You mean *uninformed* voter, don’t you? Because there are plenty of educated voters who are ignorant and uninformed. Many of them reside in our Congress and White House, in fact.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 3:02 PM

This will come back to haunt Palin’s presidential chances, once the world sees this stimulus bill doesn’t stimulate a single thing, other than Chris Matthew’s leg.

iamse7en on February 1, 2009 at 3:00 PM

If she’s true to her words , her usage of the Porkulus money will boom the alaskan economy with or without an increase in energy prices. And reduce American trade deficit. So it’s probably a merit for her to become Potus 2012.

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM

Noneya on February 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Aren’t you the least bit outraged that Obama has decided to expand renditions?

Disturb the Universe on February 1, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Palin is a flake who doesn’t understand the core Republican value of limited government. I’m a RINO and proud to be a RINO, but I will be upset with Collins or Snowe if they vote for the stimulus.

Did anyone else LOL at this?

Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 3:06 PM

To her credit, Gov. Palin, in her state of the state address, did call for a 7% percent cut in state spending.

CP on February 1, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Uninformed, uneducated … whatever

the point is that the AP knew what they were doing in this story .. make Palin look like she is in total support of this bill.

Many people have not researched the Guv (like hotair.com) if they had they would have easily come across:

- Palin’s letter to the delegation
- Palin’s comments at the Governor Assoc.
- Palin’s comments in local AK news
- The fact that she is getting grilled by the new dem senator up there

Hotair.com, when it comes to Gov. Palin, has become the ultimate “drive by” media outlet

and that is just too bad.

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Projecting, are we?
fogw on February 1, 2009 at 3:02 PM

More like jealousy.

Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM

exactly CP. So after her comments in the state of state address does ANYONE actually believe she would be for this plan?? NO WAY.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 3:08 PM

exactly CP. So after her comments in the state of state address does ANYONE actually believe she would be for this plan?? NO WAY.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 3:08 PM

the problem may be that people will believe it … because they are low information types who have not researched the issue.

they come here to a “conservative website” see what is posted and take it as fact.

drive by media at its best … except now its coming from “our side”

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:09 PM

If she’s true to her words , her usage of the Porkulus money will boom the alaskan economy with or without an increase in energy prices. And reduce American trade deficit. So it’s probably a merit for her to become Potus 2012.

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM

Right, but just like everything else regarding Sarah Palin, that is not how the mass media, the Left, SNL, the entertainment industry and the Democrats will paint the issue. The details of her support will never be known, just like the details of her past political successes still are not known by the majority of the American public, because she was made into a national joke by the mass media and everyone on the Left.

The only thing that will be reported was that Gov Palin supported the Pork Bill. Period, no other details reported. Just like when a friend of mine asked me about my thoughts on Sarah Palin and I listed off all her accomplishments in her political career and her known stances on issues and all my friend had to say was “oh, yeah, and of course she can also see Russie from her house” said in her sarcastic making fun of Sarah Palin way.

Sarah Palin should be standing toe to toe with Mark Sanford against this crap bill.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM

its just allah though. Ed would never be so shameful.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Everyone needs to get the information correctly. Listening to the AP side is wrong. Here is what RedState posted:

Posted on RedState

Alaska’s Sarah Palin supports the transportation component of the package. I can find no recorded position for Arizona’s new Republican Governor Jan Brewer, but the state assumes enactment of the stimulus package to help close a budget shortfall. Hawaii’s Linda Lingle is anticipating passage as well. Jim Gibbons is characterized in several places as a supporter, though I don’t see a formal statement. Rhode Island’s Don Carcieri ‘has great ways to spend it.’ Mike Rounds (SD) and Jon Huntsman (UT) sound like backers. Tim Pawlenty (MN) says he wouldn’t refuse the money, and John Hoeven (SD) sounds like has plans for the cash, too.

She supports the Infrastructure part of the stimulus package, already on record last week saying that. She wants no part of the rest of it

bobsunshine on February 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM

Exit question two: I’m getting yet another demerit on my conservative permanent record for even pointing this out, aren’t I?

Not in my record book. You’re only the messenger. It’s better that these things are out in the open to test the seemingly blind faith of a portion of her followers.

I had a lot of hope for Palin based on the recommendations of some here whom I respect, and I’d hoped that her support of TARP and amnesty was a concession to her running mate—but it becomes increasingly clear that Palin really is much like McCain.

FloatingRock on February 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM

Sarah Palin should be standing toe to toe with Mark Sanford against this crap bill.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Don’t give me the Sanford stuff please

I agree with what you said about but come on dude

his state had the biggest jump in unemployment … he will be taking the money too

and Palin and Sanford have come out against the bill at the Gov. Assoc meeting…

From Gov. Patterson of NY:

“He said Republican Govs. Rick Perry of Texas, Mark Sanford of South Carolina and Sarah Palin of Alaska, led a spirited debate about the pitfalls of adding to the $10.7-trillion federal debt. They warned that the U.S. economy could collapse.”

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Allah has apparently never heard of the Eleventh Commandment.

Allahpundit = RINO.

Jim62sch on February 1, 2009 at 3:15 PM

Hotair.com, when it comes to Gov. Palin, has become the ultimate “drive by” media outlet

and that is just too bad.

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:06 PM

I agree, which is why I don’t come here much anymore to comment. I usually just check out the stories of the day and then move on.

But anyone who has been here long knows that is AllahPundit’s schtick. I still have no idea what he stands for, but I know his blogging style is simply to antagonize everyone in order to shill for comments and blog hits. If anyone remembers during the Primaries, this was anti-Fred Thompson central, just like now it is anti-Palin central.

I give AllahPundit credit. He is a good businessman. He knows what posts garner attention and what posts and commentary will generate blog hits and long comment threads of discussion, argument and petty infighting. He’s doing his job.

But when I want objective analysis without petty snark, I choose to go elsewhere. Everyone else can do so too.

I don’t see HotAir as “our side”. HotAir is not a conservative site or a GOP site. It’s a news and political commentary site.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 3:15 PM

Sarah Palin should be standing toe to toe with Mark Sanford against this crap bill.

Michael in MI on February 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM

I think her projects will stand out as the only ones with real return on investment.
She doesn’t “support” the bill more then you , she just has to adapt to the reality about it.

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Look, Sarah Palin needs to decide that she either is or is not a national conservative leader. She just formed her on PAC (to which I promptly contributed, as i would surmise many others around these boards did as well).

This is a HUGE issue. The spendulus porkulus bill (part of Malkin’s name for it) will be the defining domestic policy initiative for the Obama administration and for the Democrats generally, as it is so massive, sweeping, and will be doled out over several years. Palin really does need to say things that sound more like, “Don’t pass this monstrosity” than “Regarding the good parts of this bill, make sure we get our fair share.”

JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM

I think her projects will stand out as the only ones with real return on investment.
She doesn’t “support” the bill more then you , she just has to adapt to the reality about it.

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM

yes, and how about the fact that the federal government doesn’t let AK use all of their resources? The Feds have that state in so much red tape they can’t even operate!

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM

I disagree with Palin if she is going to washington to seek funds.

However, if the your state is being force fed cash, as the Governor and a conservative, she should be there to divert the funds to projects in the state that are not just hog trough money dumping. Atleast she might be able to use the ill gotten gains that benefit the state and not the special interst.

portlandon on February 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM

I don’t get what the big deal is? Dick Cheney supports gay marriage and I’m sure 75% of you would have been in favor of him running for President in 2008.

Speedwagon82 on February 1, 2009 at 3:20 PM

portlandon on February 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM

she was in DC for the Dinner.

She made sure that she was able to see the Senate leaders on the issues of :

Pipeline infrastructure
Military base repair
and drilling issues in ANWR

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Palin really does need to say things that sound more like, “Don’t pass this monstrosity” than “Regarding the good parts of this bill, make sure we get our fair share.”

JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM

She says no such thing.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Allah may be good at getting attention but the means are objectionable. He knows damn well that Palin is not for the pork but she has to present her state interest since the Democrats are going to get some type of spending bill and her state wants its share.

However I generally do not even click on a lot of Allah posts since he likes to play devil advocate too much. I suggest he turn his ammo on the Democrats rather than savaging the conservatives and sowing dissension.

RAH on February 1, 2009 at 3:25 PM

She’s going to get as much of her state’s taxpayer money that was stolen by the federal government back as she can.

I don’t see the problem.

Mommynator on February 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Exit question two: I’m getting yet another demerit on my conservative permanent record for even pointing this out, aren’t I?

You know how we make fun of liberals for always mangaging to make themselves the victims?

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I really dont know why people arent questioning Jindal or Mitch Daniels. Look, I agree with basically everything they are doing regarding the bill. Both of them said they would have voted against it if they were in congress, BUT they will both accept the money for their respective states. Sarah said essentially the same thing as these two did.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 3:27 PM

she was in DC for the Dinner.

I know joey24007, I support Palin, and think she is a great conservative. I will not however support everything she does, and white wash her record. If she seeks funds, I don’t agree with that. It doesn’t mean I won’t support her in the future.

Thats the difference between a Obama’s relgious followers and clear thinking adults.

portlandon on February 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Six years into FDR’s presidency, his Treasury secretary Henry Morgenthau Jr. ruefully acknowledged that the New Deal had proved an economic disaster.

“We have tried spending money; we are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work,” he told two senior congressional Democrats. “I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. . . After eight years of this administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started . . . and an enormous debt to boot!”

A new New Deal will not work any better than the old one did. Recessions hurt, but recessions compounded with colossal government growth hurt worse. So much worse, sometimes, that they turn into depressions.
- Jeff Jacoby

MB4 on February 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Palin really does need to say things that sound more like, “Don’t pass this monstrosity” than “Regarding the good parts of this bill, make sure we get our fair share.”

JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM

As long as there’s not someone better whom to chose?
She has to keep a somewhat low profile, to not become more of a scapegoat then she become. She want to drill ANWR, and she needs to play a complex game to get support for that.
The Dems don’t like to give her any victory here.
They rather loose a war than an election..

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:29 PM

You know how we make fun of liberals for always mangaging to make themselves the victims?

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM

+10

portlandon on February 1, 2009 at 3:29 PM

I know joey24007, I support Palin, and think she is a great conservative. I will not however support everything she does, and white wash her record. If she seeks funds, I don’t agree with that. It doesn’t mean I won’t support her in the future.

Thats the difference between a Obama’s relgious followers and clear thinking adults.

portlandon on February 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM

IC

and I must say … I disagree with her meeting with the Senators … not because what she wants is wrong

because people like the Associated Press were ready to distort it and then people like hotair come along and pick it up.

THAT’S the problem with the meeting.

She needs to watch her step

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:31 PM

My email to Michelle, I sent you a copy too Allah.

Hi Michelle

I’m a commenter at your site HotAir, username Maxx.

I’ve been frustrated by Allapundit’s behavior before but never enough to writeto you about it. But today he did something that is just over the top in my opinion.

He has a post with the headline:

Ultimate heart-ache: Palin supports the stimulus?

This headline is a lie Michelle. Yes I know he has put the headline in the form of a question in order to cover himself, but it’s still a lie. Allah could have easily researched the question and found that Palin by no means supports the stimulus, HotAir commenters found her statements on the matter very quickly, why couldn’t Allah do that?

How many HotAir readers will visit the site today and see this headline and wrongly assume Palin supports the stimulus because of Allahpundit’s shenanigans? Allah is right about one thing, that would indeed be a heart-ache if Palin supported this bill and Allah seems to enjoy giving us heart-aches. I really think he drives a lot of people from the site with this kind of nonsence.

It seems to me that Allah doesn’t really like conservatives very much. Allah is quick to post every unsubstantiated slur about conservatives. And it seems the more conservative they are the less he likes them. He doesn’t like Ann Coulter, he calls Jerome Corsi a “Truther,” and his treatment of Tom Tancredo was despicable. I don’t think he would like you either if you were not his boss, you are too conservative for Allah.

You know Michelle, conservatives don’t have to come to HotAir to be taunted, discourage and disheartened, they can go to any mainstream media site for that. Conservatives come to HotAir expecting the news to be presented in a fair and accurate way, often times, we just don’t get that from Allahpundit. Maybe its time for Allah to move on to some other site. That’s my thoughts on the matter, thanks for your time.

Maxx

Maxx on February 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM

good work maxx. Maybe Michelle will have a nice talk to allah and straighten him out.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I really don’t blame her for wanting to be sure her state gets a big slice of the pork that she knows is going to be passed whether she likes it or not, especially since Congress is going to premanently outlaw drilling in ANWR which woud bring in needed revenue to Alaska

donsingleton on February 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM

She must like “stimulus”, she’s got 9 kids!

marklmail on February 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I really don’t blame her for wanting to be sure her state gets a big slice of the pork that she knows is going to be passed whether she likes it or not, especially since Congress is going to premanently outlaw drilling in ANWR which woud bring in needed revenue to Alaska

donsingleton on February 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM

She has no interest in the pork aspect of the bill

she wants gasline infrastructure and military base upgrades

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Well, if the govmint is giving away free money, (hmpht, free) then why not.

Kini on February 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM

She’s got a state to run and probably a budget shortfall. If she uses her national prominence to fight against the stimulus, maybe it costs her state a few billion dollars.

All politics is local. She has to make sure her voters are taken care of and get re-elected or she’ll be out of the White House race for a while.

dedalus on February 1, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Not only that, all tax-payers for generations to come will be paying for the ‘stimulus’ whether their states receive (or take) any of it or not.

Talk about being put between a rock and hard place.

ProfessorMiao on February 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Redstate has it covered

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

At least this way we know some of the porkulus money will be put to good use. I mean if it passes of course.

kahall on February 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM

She needs to watch her step

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:31 PM

100% correct. The the crazy Libtards and less than honest Repubs will have 4 years of digging through her trash, operatives in the Alaskan Government and internet rumor followed by MSM assasination to deal with.

Look what they did to her in 9 weeks on the trail. Just wait until they are organized and have more time. She had better surround her self with reliable honest people who speak well on Sunday and Knee-cap on Monday. It’s gonna get ruthless.

If you think Jindal,Sanford etc. are immune from this, think again. AxelRove started running the 2012 Presidential Obama re-election campaign on November 05 2008.

portlandon on February 1, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Sorry, you suck it up for the nation…Palin is wrong on this one.
Just because it “helps” your state, it is devastating to the United States.
She and Jindahl may mean well, but they are wrong…a pig at the trough is still a pig.

right2bright on February 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Governors have NO VOTE on the stimulus package. I’m a conservative and I’d be clawing and scratching to get the infrastructure money for my state as a governor to help roads, bridges, etc. for legitimate long-term needs to lay the groundwork for increased future GDP.

I would not take the money for pork which is what most of this bill is.

The GOP Senators should vote NO and let the Dems take the hit in Congress and let Obama take the hit when it doesn’t work, and leads to increased inflation. Governor’s should do what they can to get a cut for their state short of pushing the overall package which is the Senators job to decide on.

You DON’T hold your people hostage in your state because of your total ideological extremism. That would not be conservatism. Read up and study Burke and Kirk and others.

Conservatism means limited government, NOT no government.

Sapwolf on February 1, 2009 at 3:43 PM

This will not change my opinion of Palin because I never trusted her to begin with. She meets my low expectations.

hanzblinx on February 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Not only that, all tax-payers for generations to come will be paying for the ’stimulus’ whether their states receive (or take) any of it or not.

Talk about being put between a rock and hard place.

ProfessorMiao on February 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

It’s like taking out a mortgage on someones house and ask the owner if he likes to have some of the money.

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM

This will not change my opinion of Palin because I never trusted her to begin with. She meets my low expectations.

hanzblinx on February 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM

So who else does it better? Of the governors.

the_nile on February 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Sanford – Jindal 2012

churchill995 on February 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Maybe its time for Allah to move on to some other site.

Maxx on February 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Can’t join you in this, Maxx.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Maxx on February 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Dude, how old are you? You just tattled on Allah. Did you get shoved into a lot of lockers as a kid?

Must not say anything bad about The Onette. All praise The Messiahette.

SnarkVader on February 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Ultimate heart-ache: Palin supports the stimulus?

In fairness, there’s a difference between supporting a bill on the merits and agreeing to accept funds from a bill you oppose that’s destined to pass anyway.

Exit question two: I’m getting yet another demerit on my conservative permanent record for even pointing this out, aren’t I?

Not for pointing out that she will be asking for some amount of the money… For how you hype the title. MSM comes to mind. The question mark is no disclaimer to your suggestion that she support the stimulus lock, stock, and pork barrel, just a lame attempt to start controversy. Almost like the “real” news guys do.
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Next you’ll be putting up the headlines with a “details at 6” tag.

RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Unfortunately Palin seems to be a populist and not an ideologue. Next she’ll be saying that excessive greed is bad etc.

ebrawer on February 1, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Excessive greed IS BAD. Witness our new POTUS and his excessive greed in wanting 100% of ALL media to love him. Greed that makes one break professional and moral and ethical standards is bad greed and excessive.

Greed is good. Greed as a God is wrong and destructive.

Ask yourself this: Would Gordon Gecko make a good RNC Chair if he really existed? NO.

Sapwolf on February 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM

You know how we make fun of liberals for always mangaging to make themselves the victims?

Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Indeed.

I stop by once in a while to see what’s going on. SOS. More pounding on Palin for traffic. It’s such a bore. In fact, I’m done with HA, and I’m not really a raving Palin fan.. As Michael in MI said, there are better sources of information and analysis.

Good luck with that subscription thing, Allah.

Cody1991 on February 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Sanford – Jindal 2012

churchill995 on February 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM

both taking the pork

you can make the case that Jinda’s position is the most troubling … “I would vote against it in Congress but I want the money as governor”

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:48 PM

good work maxx. Maybe Michelle will have a nice talk to allah and straighten him out.

Let’s just have a make up our own headlines contest. You know put a question mark after all of them.

I’ll get it started.

Ultimate Shoker! Allah finally talks to a girl face to face?

Just kidding around AP, you go on and keep keeping us all on our toes.

kahall on February 1, 2009 at 3:48 PM

allah hates palin so much. I bet her position is directly the same as Jindal’s.

ousoonerfan15 on February 1, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Yep, I’ll bet her view is almost exactly the same. Can’t stop it or pass it. Just get what you can for the people who voted for you for legitimate needs.

Sapwolf on February 1, 2009 at 3:49 PM

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:31 PM

She can’t start second guessing herself because of what the press distorts. She’d never get anything done.

Ronnie on February 1, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I love Sanford. I still can’t figure out if he turned a VP nominee offer down or if he just broadcast that he wasn’t interested so it wasn’t offered.

Sanford’s the real deal. He’d be a great presidential candidate for 2012. Much, much better than Palin.

I guess none of you “true conservatives” will ever accept/admit that perhaps you and Limbaugh have been wrong in your demonization of John McCain all these years. He’s certainly not perfect, but he’s more conservative than either George Bush.

funky chicken on February 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Crap, I ruined it. Should be….

Ultimate Shocker! Allah finally talks to a girl face to face?

kahall on February 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Sanford’s better than Jindal too.

funky chicken on February 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM

joey24007 on February 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Thanks for the link.

Barry probably hopes that the peeps will revolt if their Republican governors fail to bring home the bacon, so he will put Red States on a starvation diet while lavishing Blue States with everything their gluttonous hearts desire.

Buy Danish on February 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM

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