Quotes of the day
posted at 10:00 pm on February 1, 2009 by Allahpundit
“I am being used to distract from the polls [Rasmussen] showing falling support for the Porkulus bill. Senate Republicans need to understand that this is also about intimidating them, especially after the show of unity in the House. It is about the 2010 and 2012 elections. This is an opportunity for Republicans to redefine themselves after a few years of wandering aimlessly looking for a ‘brand’ and identity.”
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“The debate among Republicans is whether to go after downscale or upscale voters. Those who argue for going downscale usually have a 2012 candidate in mind: Sarah Palin. She has an undoubted appeal to such voters and revved up part of the Republican base — cultural conservatives, and rural and small-town voters — throughout the campaign. Despite the scorn the media heaped on her, she has excellent political instincts and seems capable of developing the knowledge base that would make her a credible presidential candidate in the future.
But my examination of the exit poll results and county-by-county election returns has led me to conclude tentatively that going upscale is the right move.”
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Upscale? Downscale? How about what’s best for the country, dumbs–t?
gryphon202 on February 1, 2009 at 10:03 PM
So where does leave you, AP? Upscale or Downscale?
Sweetness0726 on February 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM
LoL My thoughts exactly. Just do the right thing instead of targeting anyone in particular. We will be fine.
Dritanian on February 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Uptown girl,
you’ve been living in your white bread world…
Weight of Glory on February 1, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Disgusting. To even use such terms makes my blood boil. This is the attitude that will keep the Republican party down. Allah, Sarah Palin is downscale????
DrStock on February 1, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Why does the GOP have to choose between upscale or downscale? Why not try to attract small town voters and big city folks?
terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 10:13 PM
You know, Reagan was able to appeal to both….
cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 10:17 PM
I don’t know about America, but, in England and Australia, that’s impossible.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:18 PM
What a bunch of drivel.
Country first. We need to fight the popular culture that erases the boundaries of good/bad behavior, blaming america first, etc.
Reagan had it right. I got a bumper sticker in the mail recently. It quotes him as saying:
“America is too great for small dreams”
We need to be the party of America first, believing in the good of this country, and to be the REAL party of optimism and hope. None of this ropeadope hope bull crap that we are seeing now in Washington.
This is why Palin appeals to people. She eptiomizes this type of belief in America and believing in the good of its people.
karenhasfreedom on February 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Different generation.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:20 PM
It’s a quote. That’s why it’s called “Quotes of the Day.”
Tanya on February 1, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Yeah, I guess the party of rich white guys is now in dire peril of becoming the party of toothless inbreds? Look, if we stop trying to adjust to what the media wants us to be, (essentially liberal democrats) I think we’ll be well on our way again.
hawkdriver on February 1, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Speaking truth about the issues of the day using conservative principles knows no generation.
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Yeah, we should focus on trying to win New York and California. That’s the ticket.
Ronnie on February 1, 2009 at 10:25 PM
When Europe needs to be rescued America will be there.
When America needs to be rescued Conservatives will be there, always have always will.
thomasaur on February 1, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Yeah, I know. I’m still asking Allah the question?
DrStock on February 1, 2009 at 10:25 PM
That quote is missing the next sentence:
Now you know the thinking behind it. Selective. It’s a divide and conquer tactic by those on the left and those anti-Palin zealots. To make that conclusion that we’ll have more well-educated younger voters is downright stupidity.
Just watch any episode of Hannity’s man on the street. For that matter David Letterman’s Know Your Politics.
That’s not a GOP message to be exclusive, but to be all inclusive.
Kini on February 1, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Yeah, going “upscale” — i.e. moderate/left, i.e. McCain — worked real well last November, didn’t it.
Cylor on February 1, 2009 at 10:26 PM
You know, Prop 8 did pass in Cali…
Not saying there’s a realistic chance to turn the state red, but with the right message many of our states are a lighter shade of blue than the fatalistic among us might assume.
cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 10:27 PM
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:20 PM
There is no such thing as a different generation…that is a lie. There is a reason history repeats itself…conservatism is a winning strategy every time it is tried.
Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Upscale, definitely.
Out with Reagan. In with Bush.
JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 10:29 PM
That’s right Rush. Republicans have to prove their substance, since they can’t win on style. It’s a bed of their own making.
chunderroad on February 1, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Agreed, entirely. But, those to whom you are trying to reach out are now further dumbed-down by 28 years of MSM and Public School indoctrination.
Reagan was The Man of The Moment, given the issues that faced us all, back then. Today, the great unwashed wouldn’t even know what an issue was, let alone have any. They just want – period.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM
I personally don’t think it’s impossible. Actually, I think America is becoming much more homogenized culturally, which could be a bad or good thing depending on which way you look at it. I’ve lived in small towns when I was younger, I don’t think they are as “culturally conservative” as media make them out to be. The young kids living in an urban area are probably listening to the same music, wearing the same clothes, and being taught from the same history book as those living in a small town. The people living in a small town might come the music and clothes a tad later but it’s the same.
terryannonline on February 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM
I hope Michael Steele puts an end to these ridiculous stategy discussions. If the GOP goes the route of upscale versus downscale, I won’t be sending another dime.
DrStock on February 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Haha. You know, AP recently noted in the stimulus post he “can’t win” and might not post more on Palin… and here we are.
I’ll second the question, if you don’t mind. Yes, it’s a quote. AP, are you posting it because you agree that Palin is “downscale?” Do you disagree with the label?
Care to engage this characterization? I think it’s fair to ask if you agree with the sentiment of your “quote of the day.”
cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 10:32 PM
I’m a redneck with a good job and some cash flow. What does that make me? Upscale with an * ?
SouthernGent on February 1, 2009 at 10:32 PM
The GOP Should Go Upscale
By Michael
BaroneBonehead…RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Interesting juxtaposition of quotes.
Rush is talking about ideas.
Barone is talking about demographics (primarily).
When Barone wrote this:
I thought is that really the debate? Isn’t this a PR disaster waiting to happen if the R’s do something like this? The Dems would love to frame it as the R’s only caring about the rich.
Some of the areas that Barone mentioned, like the Orlando area or North Carolina’s Research Triangle have increasing number of Democrats because Dems have moved there, not because R’s have suddenly changed.
I also thought that part of the reason McCain lost is because of those who didn’t like him who stayed home.
INC on February 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM
I wish that were true. Wherever I’ve lived, it seems to be more a case of: throw the bums out, and elect the other mob for a change. Rinse and repeat.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Rush is happy. Pittsburgh won.
Mr. Joe on February 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM
California is a winnable state, problem is the Republicans think they have to play it “upscale” and so we get Arnold when CA threw out their last gov. If the Republicans got organized and had the gonads to actually be different from the Democrats, then the people could vote for them.
Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Thanks to him, his ideology has turned Ohio and Michigan blue. Too many people there know the enemy too well.
As for Her Majesty of Alaska, I think that her support of the stimulus undermines her. The same thing goes for Jindal and Sanford for their willingness to name their price for accepting pork.
sethstorm on February 1, 2009 at 10:36 PM
HELLO earth to BARONE…Obama is black that is why the blacks turned out in record numbers and voted overwhelmingly for him. HELLO Idiot analysts. This election was a one off. What is the matter with you fools?
Voting patterns have not changed of this significance in 40 years and suddenly there is a sea change and everyone believes these patterns shall be this way forever?
Michael Barone if I didn’t know you and like you so much I would slap you for being so out of touch.
Jdripper on February 1, 2009 at 10:37 PM
I think we agree more than disagree, but remember that Reagan won the day speaking to the 60′s generation. That was the first large scale leftist surge on to the cultural scene ever.
It is possible to reach the generation taught by the 60′s radicals in the same way.
When the mind hears the truth enough it does begin to break through.
The problem is we haven’t had leadership or a leader that drives the truth loud and often.
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Ah yes, class warfare . . . just what this poor sick Republic needs. This “upscale” “downscale” nonsense is disgusting.
rplat on February 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM
I was thinking more of values, really. Small town/country people have a history of being more conservative in their values, if not in their customs. The Big Smoke makes it too easy to abandon values, in favour of the quick fix – so to speak.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Well, I make a damn good salary and have advanced technical degrees from the top department in my field in the world.
I’m certainly upscale, on Frum’s little petermeter.
I am and have always been a big supporter and listener of Rush Limbaugh and hate RINOs and other craptastic slimeballs.
What the hell is that idiot Frum and now even Barone talking about? Run liars and mealymouthed politicians without backbones or real philosophical convictions? Why?
We can’t afford another shitty worthless candidate like McLame. Extirpate them…
TexasJew on February 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Exactly. Why not just label potential voters as “Alphas” and “Betas”
DrStock on February 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Well . . .
I think Barone is a very bright guy, and a true conservative. On this point, though, I do wonder exactly whom Barone and Frum would nominate as our upscale leader.
I agree that the leader needs to appeal to thinking conservatives. I think they are underestimating Sarah Palin’s appeal. However, I certainly agree that there are many other appealing conservative leaders out there besides Palin.
If there is one point on which it is difficult to credit Barone, it is where he insists he has no one in particular in mind. Surely he has several people, in general, in mind. Do tell, please, Mr. Barone. You, too, Mr. Frum.
Jindal and Sanford are fine with me. Heck, at this point, I’m ready to run with Cantor. But Palin can certainly hold her own in that crowd.
JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Nope. You’re Upper Lowscale, with Upscale leanings. If you declare yourself to be an Independent, you’d qualify for Lower Upscale, with Lowscale leanings. Upscale is nearly impossible for you.
Weight of Glory on February 1, 2009 at 10:41 PM
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM
McCain lost because when given the opportunity to stand up and really show how Obama is more of the same…and tying them to Barney Frank and Freddie and Fannie…he instead went for the stimulus program. Republicans lost because they put in McCain.
Republicans will continue to lose until they regain trust and show the people that government is the problem, not the solution.
Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Universally, so!
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Folks… this is exactly what most of us are saying. These two airheads are a perfect slice of conservatism. Read their posts and it makes the case.
The upscale-downscale is a disaster waiting to be pontificated.
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:44 PM
God, I’m sick of this upscale and downscale talk.
Nominate a good candidate and the rest will take of itself. You aren’t going to win much of anything running lame candidates like McCain and Dole. Reagan, Bush, Nixon, those guys did pretty well for themselves across most demographics.
therightwinger on February 1, 2009 at 10:45 PM
uh better qualify airhead… ;o) regular commenters on Hot Air….
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM
our best chance of returning this country to core values is local local local. We don’t need strong leaders to lead, we need to breed them, and that happens if we all get involved in our communities.
Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Can’t argue that. Problem is, how to do it in the face of such massive opposition from the MSM, etc.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Indeed
There are ditto heads. And there are airheads. Call me a proud airhead.
JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Exactly, the outside-the-beltway crowd is who the GOP needs to focus the message on and Palin makes a great messenger. Michelle, is quite right, Rush is the New Bush derangement for the democrats. Talk about the Fairness Doctrine are not idle threats. It will be used to distract the central issues, the economy.
Kini on February 1, 2009 at 10:48 PM
So far off topic that I should be shot for saying it:
STEELERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sue me, they still won.
Bishop on February 1, 2009 at 10:48 PM
sethstorm on February 1, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Reagan turned Ohio & Michigan blue? Based on what?
cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 10:48 PM
And yet you’re not asking him about the counterpoint, which is obviously in Palin’s favor:
Why is that? Because it’s no fun if you’re not taking irrational offense at someone else’s statement, and blaming it on Allah?
Tanya on February 1, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Grassroots subversion of the MSM
blatantblue on February 1, 2009 at 10:52 PM
We need a message. House Republicans revived a good one, fiscal responsibility with their last vote. We can add to that and back them up with legislative votes, interviews, and speeches.
We need 3 or 4 things that are of great importance, and focus on those and educate the American public.
Hog Wild on February 1, 2009 at 10:52 PM
They should go after every voter by explaining conservatism. If McCain knew how to do that, he would’ve won.
jgapinoy on February 1, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Did you just call us an airhead or the authors of the aricles? I’m pretty sure it’s the latter given your posting history on here. :-)
SouthernGent on February 1, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Michael Barone is exactly the kind of idiot GOP type that Rush was talking about in his interview with Hannity.
Jim708 on February 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:47 PM
It starts and ends with the people. Think local instead of global. Start with yourself, then with your family, then your local community. Leaders are bred. Broken homes, not going to church, not watching what teachers teach, all take their toll.
Here is the image. Its like moving a piano. If we all lift where we stand, the piano is light. When we expect a savior to come in on his white horse, the piano will rarely move.
Conservative Voice on February 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Agreed. However we need all fronts to be covered. From the bottom up and the top down.
Republicans tend to find one venue and run with it while the dems are all over the map and overwhelm the electorate.
We need to start at home all the way to Washington. Use every avenue to get the message out. (Thats’ what Steele is proposing), city, county, state, federal. Every new technology avaiable.
We’ll never have the MSM but we don’t need it either.
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:54 PM
What?
I think you may be reading a LOT more into this than I ever intended.
Chill.
DrStock on February 1, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Actually, Sarah Palin is a very good example as to why reaching out to all sorts is no longer possible. To those who agree with her small-town values, she is a breath of fresh air, to those who have no values, she stinks.
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Shew! :)
SouthernGent on February 1, 2009 at 10:55 PM
RINO’s with arugula.
A lovely upscale meal.
*spit*
You want to win?
Just tell the damned hard truths, love the damned Constitution, defend the damned borders, and mock the damned weaklings would would undermine the greatest nation in history.
These jell-o spined suckers like Barone, Frum, Noonan, Will, etc. who think of voter blocs, are blockheads.
We’re Americans, you idiots.
Let the (up and down)scales fall from your eyes.
profitsbeard on February 1, 2009 at 10:55 PM
That’s where Barone takes Frum’s position of the type of voter will be in 2010/12. He could not be more wrong. That should not be the GOP message and making that argument divides us.
Kini on February 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM
SouthernGent on February 1, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Gent, go up the thread and read my addendum… You know I luv ya ….. come on man….
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM
katy on February 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM
What turned our state blue is Reagan’s willingness to pile on the people who wanted the Manufacturing Belt to implode. Some were environmentalists, others unionbusters from Pennsylvania, and there was Reagan. That has made it possible to convert the state over to a blue one.
Now that Strickland & Brown are around, Ohioans have someone that truly speaks for them. They embody the parts of the state that have wanted a sane, populist voice in our government.
As for Michigan, same causes. They’re just like Ohio in that respect, just more divisiveness when it comes to labor. They have the people who speak for them – and no meaningful import presence.
sethstorm on February 1, 2009 at 11:00 PM
According to Allah, er, Realclearpolitics, you’re probably low scale. Nothing to fret over. Just a subtle suggestion to all the low scalers that they are not worth pursuing in an election.
Kokonut on February 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM
What alternate reality is this guy Frum living in anyway?
More and more Americans can not even find America on a map.
MB4 on February 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM
All of your points are simple common sense, and work when applied. But, we let the education system get away from us, to the point where, if one’s child does not fill an assignment, as directed by the teacher, no marks will be given.
An example. My youngest daughter failed her exam in Social Studies because she refused to swallow the Party Line, and answered the questions based upon her upbringing. ( I did have the personal satisfaction of calling that teacher a Socialist twit – but she still failed.)
OldEnglish on February 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Class warfare. Yay.
Jim Treacher on February 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Ya’ll need to read Guilty. Stop playing all the liberal games and letting them define us. Good greif!!!
vulcannomad on February 1, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Democratbizzaro World.
Kini on February 1, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Chase everyone.
blatantblue on February 1, 2009 at 11:05 PM
If you can name all 57 states then you know that you are an upscale American.
MB4 on February 1, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Right.
RalphyBoy on February 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Upscale,DownScale,
and the moderates,
are probably thinking,
why not MiddleScale!
canopfor on February 1, 2009 at 11:11 PM
sethstorm on February 1, 2009 at 11:00 PM
And yet, Reagan carried both states, as did Bush I.
I think maybe the Union/DNC connection may have been a small factor….
cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I’d say probably a decline in public eduction in “blue” states had more to do with it. Damn that Reagan, he made my dog die!
What’s “upscale”? From one of the large urban centers, sporting an Ivy League degree?
ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 11:13 PM
*education. Typing in my school was taught by NEA-types.
ddrintn on February 1, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Barone is usually so well-tempered and lucid. But the brain rot known as David Frum or David Brooks has infected the poor man.
Huh? So people who voted for Obama but not necessarily the local Dummycrat are now “Republicans?” This is, to say the least, counter-intuitive. How does Barone support this position? He doesn’t.
Oh, sweet Bejeezus. I’ve heard this before. Barone is reciting marketing information on a demographic group. But this does not and cannot inform a strategy. It is not meaningful to prescribe going after “upscale” or “downscale” voters without a rationale for doing so. Consider his comment on abortion. What would he advise Repubs to do? Tell “upscale” voters that “we sure hate abortion, but get as many as you want, we’re okay with that?” Or consider the gay marriage issue. A sickly blue state like Clownifornia voted very blue again… but passed Prop. 8. Who voted for it and against it? The young? The old? Barone doesn’t address the matter, and leaves us wondering what Repubs should say about it. If he thinks the GOP should make gay marriage part of the platform, why not say so?
This crap is all too coy and “focus group” clever.
Nota bene: abandon cultural conservatives altogether. In other words, largely abandon them. Please just say so, Mr. Barone, if you think so. And you want the GOP to appeal to upscale voters? The appeal to upscale voters must be the same as the appeal to them redneck, trailer trash voters… Limited government, liberty, keeping your own money and property, freer markets. If you can’t sell that, don’t bother to sell anything, Barone. Because until the GOP actually makes the argument for liberty, nothing will change course. If the GOP decides to become Democrat Lite, we’ll just vote real Democrat. Why not? If bailouts and unfettered abortion and centralized medicine and socialized banking and gay marriage are all good things,why wouldn’t one want more of them?
The whole piece smells like “We have to support more ideas associated with Democrats.” Sorry, but that is the attitude of a loser in an adversarial pursuit like politics. I see nothing concrete in his piece that distinguishes what he recommends from just adopting a half-baked Democrat stance.
George Orwell on February 1, 2009 at 11:14 PM
The perfect beta-male post.
Covertly hostile with an appeal to authority figures, positioning them in this post as the PalinPiñata whackers.
Just say it AP, “I don’t like rednecks.”
Stephen M on February 1, 2009 at 11:18 PM
So your dog was unionized? There’s your answer (just kidding).
I doubt many around here in the urban centers have an Ivy League degree.
sethstorm on February 1, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Not sure just what Rush means by ‘up scale’. Any clarification from those in the know?
jeanie on February 1, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I am still not convinced that Palin is an intelligent person and will probably never be convinced that she can be trusted with running this country. I wish people would move on from her.
WisCon on February 1, 2009 at 11:26 PM
“JudetheFossil on February 1, 2009 at 10:47 PM”
sorry, airhead has WAY too negative a connotation — cannot allow that to be our label. i prefer HAirees, but i haven’t seen that get ANY traction — sure would be nice to come up with a good nic for us collectively …
Buckaroo on February 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Barone is no bonehead, not by a long shot.
Still, it is a little obtuse to look at the black vote of 95-4 and not acknowledge that millions of blacks voted by skin color. Maybe the context is only the 2012 election against Obama, in which case that would be quite logical.
Racist voters won’t suddenly change their stripes for the next election.
Jaibones on February 1, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Not Rush, he had the first quote. Second, longer section is by Michael Barone, “Upscale” is his term.
Definition, as far as I can tell, is the more economically/educationally elite. IOW, no rednecks, fundamentalist Christians, etc. but just the fiscal cons with Ivy League degrees & 6+ figure incomes.
At least, that’s how I read it.
cs89 on February 1, 2009 at 11:29 PM
The tiny asterisk in the post divides the two quotes. The top is from a column MM wrote that quotes Rush. The bottom quote is Barone.
Barone says this in his column:
That looks like it’s about the closest to his definition of upscale.
INC on February 1, 2009 at 11:33 PM
ahh…I think this thread should’ve been two threads…
jerrytbg on February 1, 2009 at 11:33 PM
That is upscale. I’d love to know how many of those folks are what is called “limousine liberals” whose minds you would never change.
INC on February 1, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Barone – another talking head that tries to divide the party. That’ll work NOT. And more educated voters? What a joke!!!! Obama voters think the Republicans were controlling Congress! Why do we pay any attention to these guys?
Christian Conservative on February 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Precisely. Barone is not an airhead, usually. And this is why all the focus group, marketing school voodoo is so off the mark, so useless. Until political analysts can look straight in the eye at all varieties of racism and political correctness, nothing will make sense. You will never peel off the current generation of blacks from voting liberal and voting black. If you want to appeal to the coming generations, you had better come up with something better than playing oneupsmanship with race. Like maybe rereading your MLK and teaching that someone’s skin really doesn’t matter. Even if it isn’t white skin.
I’m not proud that the nation below Canada has elected a crypto-socialist collectivist hustler. I could care less about his inherited melatonin.
George Orwell on February 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM
I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on February 1, 2009 at 11:39 PM
All graduate degrees are not equal. The libs win among those with the biggest joke degrees, like sociology and African Studies and journalism and graphics design … But as long as they have a piece of paper saying that they were in “graduate school” (all together now, everyone way, “Oooooooh! Wow!”) then they consider themselves educated and intellectual. LOL.
The fact is that liberalism is driven by emotion and conservativism is driven by reason. Period.
progressoverpeace on February 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM
I think you meant to say:
I couldn’t care less about his inherited melanin.
jgapinoy on February 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Thanks cs: Did not read carefully as I was caught up in trying to determine where I fit in the up scale down scale thing. Middle scale?——— Besides, I think we’re just as inclusive as the Dems, they and a lot of like minded GOPers keep telling us we’re not, and they have us falling for it. We are not any more or less inclusive than the Dems. For example: they don’t include most of us or even try to. They have done/are doing a pretty good job of making us doubt ourselves. And I’m saying don’t fall for it. I’m also saying we should be true to ourselves and not worry about it.
jeanie on February 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM
At least when the old time Republicans lost, they took some comfort in knowing that at least their side was better educated and richer than the Dems. I think that is what this is more about.
Speedwagon82 on February 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM
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