The obligatory “Hot Air’s revenue stream goes up in smoke” post; Update: PJM speaks
posted at 1:18 pm on January 31, 2009 by Allahpundit
Starting tomorrow, you too can read HA for the low, low price of $99.95 per year.
No, just kidding. Or am I?
As you know, last September Pajamas Media began a new initiative in Internet television called Pajamas TV. When we started with our RNC coverage from Minneapolis, we noted that we would be in a Beta Phase through the first quarter of 2009. In the last few months we have strengthened the PJTV lineup with shows covering Media Bias, Education Bias, Middle East Update, Sharia and Jihad, Powerline Report, Ask Dr. Helen, Hugh News, Poliwood, Conservatism 2.0, Economy and Finance, National Security, and others.
As the end of the first quarter approaches and we near the production phase of Pajamas TV, we will continue to build our emphasis in this area. As a result we have decided to wind down the Pajamas Media Blogger and advertising network effective March 31, 2009. The PJM portal and the XPressBlogs will continue as is.
Thank god I have that pothole-filling job in the new Obama WPA to fall back on.
Seriously, we think we’ll be okay. I figured traffic would crater after the election, settling somewhere around 350-400K hits a day by the inauguration. Thanks to you, we’re considerably better positioned than that. Things will be tight after April, as they are for everyone, which is why we hope/expect we won’t have to come begging for donations. But, er, stay tuned. As for PJM, Ace said it best: It was a good deal, it kept a lot of righty bloggers going during the election, and now circumstances have changed. Business is business, red in tooth and claw. I just hope there’s a conservative entrepreneur out there willing to snap up some of the talent that’s now on the market. Are there any new sites around flush with cash and looking to establish a presence in the blogosphere that could use full-time bloggers and the built-in audiences that would come with them? Hmmm.
Exit question via Atlas Shrugs: That PJM-sponsored blogger’s row at CPAC is going to be a little awkward, huh?
Update: You’ll know we’re in dire straits financially when you notice that every last post is comment bait about Palin and atheism, instead of every other post the way it is now.
Update: Another idea. If the man of Steele is serious about expanding the party’s reach online, how about hiring someone to blog for the RNC?
Update: Roger Simon weighs in:
Actually that part of our business has been losing money from the beginning, so the people getting their quarterly checks from PJM were getting a form of stipend from us in the hopes that advertisers would start to cotton to blogs and we could possibly make a profit. Didn’t happen. No wonder those people are kicking and screaming now that they are off the dole. I might too. [What's their beef? I thought most of them were free marketeer libertarians or something.-ed. Go figure.]
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That’s why they have close-up shots.
Lord knows I’d take out a loan for one.
MadisonConservative on January 31, 2009 at 2:13 PM
If even one percent of our users was willing to pay $29.95 a year, I’d be shocked.
Allahpundit on January 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM
I hear the Daily Kos is hiring. Do you a history of mental illness + a love of socialism + a tendancy to cling to government figures?
therightwinger on January 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Obama just issued a statement:
There will be a time for HotAir to make profits and a time for them to get bonuses,” Obama said. “This is not that time.”
faraway on January 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM
First time I ever wrote this and it’s no exaggeration. You owe me a monitor!
hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Allapundit, is part of the cost associated with a dedicated server? I’m assuming it is that, as well as salaries.
funsutton on January 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Allahpundit on January 31, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Dude….I pay taxes but I still have to stop at red lights at 04:00!
dmann on January 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM
There’s numerous paid forums out there that people get banned from all the time, like [H]ardForum, AR-15′s forums, and SomethingAwful. All of them, though, have rules and regulations. When you pay for the membership, you have to agree to abide by those rules. Some of them offer full refunds if you’re banned, some don’t.
MadisonConservative on January 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I’m just a college student, and I can honestly say I’d chip in $5-$10 a month to keep Hot Air going.
HYTEAndy on January 31, 2009 at 2:16 PM
$2.50 a month, even in a recession, is a pittance. XBox Live costs twice that, and you really don’t get much for your money.
MadisonConservative on January 31, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Oh yes. And given how much traffic we have, that server ain’t cheap.
Allahpundit on January 31, 2009 at 2:17 PM
I can think of one conservative sugar daddy who acknowledges using Hot Air as show prep. But AllahPundit would have to take Rush Limbaugh off the comment bait list.
I’m totally serious about this. As the de facto leader of the Obama opposition, Limbaugh needs to build a network and this site has a lot of pluses.
Terrie on January 31, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Don’t sell yourselves short, this is a great community, $30.00 isn’t even 1 bottle of good Vodka!
dmann on January 31, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Well, I’ll pay for a subscription to comment. Won’t pay for what amounts to a new aggregator.
Krydor on January 31, 2009 at 2:18 PM
HotAir Rocks! and Michelle doesn’t even advertise or plug HA and she easily could. I expect HA will still Thrive.
However, Truck driving School of America phone # is 800-488-7364
Just saying!
Amadeus on January 31, 2009 at 2:18 PM
I’m in. Heck I paid for a site we’re not even using. I should have sent the money to you guys.
Now about me being able to censor Poptech…
hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 2:18 PM
HotAir folks need to start telling other folks about HotAir. I do, and HotAir’s readership has probably increased by .0000000001% as a result. Hey, every little bit helps.
Maxx on January 31, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Forgive me for spouting off here. This should be a stand alone site, not tied to the main body of PJM.
With this amount of traffic the site could thrive off advertising alone and could kick back a franchise fee to the PJM corporation. Sink or swim then.
Regarding Amazon or other affiliate links. Generally they don’t pay the freight but you guys have a very loyal reader base that would click to buy from affiliate sites.
All you have to do is remind your readers to “support our sponsors” often.
Good luck. People don’t generally understand the total dedication necessary to keep a blog like this rolling.
Some bloggers never leave their keyboards, ever.
FireBlogger on January 31, 2009 at 2:20 PM
here’s an idea Allah…
put up an Ebay Auction for a picture of yourself… you know people are stalking you and I know you’re in here somewhere…
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:21 PM
You guys have to stick around, where else would I
stealfind all the stories I post?I’d pay.
http://www.environmentalrepublican.blogspot.com/
sswenviron on January 31, 2009 at 2:23 PM
I’m afraid you’ll have to count me out, AP. I just paid a week’s worth of Unemployment Comp. for 180 Flomax pills.
RedWinged Blackbird on January 31, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Here’s an idea, charge people 4.99 a month to be able to comment and you would kill 2 birds with one stone.
No more trolls and more revenue
javamartini on January 31, 2009 at 2:23 PM
I can afford and would be willing to pay $50 a year. Hot Air has been like crack for me and is the only site I HAVE to visit everyday. I hit F5 every 10 minutes.
nazarioj001 on January 31, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Hey Allah
What if you leveraged yourself into the cyber war…you could put up snarky post about Google…well okay more snarky post about Google. Microsoft will pay you not to use Google.
http://www.googlizationofeverything.com/2008/06/microsoft_will_pay_you_not_to.php
Dr Evil on January 31, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Given the amount of program-prep research Hot Air and some of the other blogs indirectly provide Rush and other talk show hosts, some sort of EIB Advertising Network would be a logical, mutually beneficial joint-venture…
phreshone on January 31, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:21 PM
If you want to know what Allah looks like, take a gander at the site’s banner artwork by Cox & Forkum. That’s Allah yelling at the video cam.
IrishEi on January 31, 2009 at 2:27 PM
What kind of job do you have?
Bradky on January 31, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Ding ding ding.
That, and more cowbell.
The Race Card on January 31, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Bummer.
toliver on January 31, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Same.
IDK what I’d do in class at college while listening to liberals indoctrinate without it
blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 2:28 PM
I’d pay $100/yr. It’s a lot cheaper than newspapers, and a helluva lot more informative.
IrishEi on January 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM
um a lot of us are hobo killing valuerite drinkers…
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Allah, I’ve been out of work for 5 months and running at quite a monthly deficit. Even so, I would very happily pay $99.95 annually for this site. That’s just chump change compared to how much time I spend here and how much I love what you and Ed do. I’d probably do the same for Ace, although HA has kinda edged him out as my top fave blog (pretty much since the comment registration opened a few months ago and I could
spout offdialog here).I just hope there would be a way to do it without having to donate online. Just can’t bring myself to totally trust that process. I would gladly send you a check (today) or call in a credit card payment.
Just don’t leave us, man, we need you!
califcon on January 31, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Yeah, but on the other hand, few people would pay so they could be a troll. And second, the rules still apply, paid or not.
Maxx on January 31, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Maybe Ed can start doing conservative book reviews in addition to his movie reviews. You can become an Amazon affiliate, link the book and get 15% of sales from that shopping session.
I spend several thousand a year at Amazon and would be glad to start my shopping sessions via a Hot Air link, even if I don’t buy the book.
Valiant on January 31, 2009 at 2:32 PM
1) Find a conservative star to back us up. Maybe Ted Nugent, Tom Seleck or James Woods?
2) If this site is run by ad revenue, place more ads. I’ve been hear for a long time and have enjoyed the relatively modest amount of ads. There’s plenty of room for more.
3) Pay subcriptions would be a good idea. I pay monthly fees to Glenn Beck and Laura Ingraham, but I think Hot Air is the best Conservative news source out there. It’s my first source for news, and I can tell that many other talk show hosts are reading it, like Michael Savage and Dennis Prager.
4) How about a poll on the site asking “Would you be willing to pay a membership fee for commenting priveleges at Hot Air?”
cannonball on January 31, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Once people start paying to have commenting privileges the amount of hits will dry up quickly. Especially in the current economic climate. Why visit if you can’t comment? Kind of goes against the whole freedom of expression thing that has been so appealing in regards to the internet.
Bradky on January 31, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I can haz old books?
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:34 PM
XBOX Live is funding my potential ability to fund HA. Knock it off.
DarkCurrent on January 31, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I’d be willing to pay for membership here to preserve HotAir—but not if it becomes a mouthpiece for the RNC. However, since the RNC probably considers HotAir to be opposition, that’s unlikely to happen.
If you do start charging for membership, I’d suggest the first month should be free. Don’t even ask for a credit card until the month has elapsed; get them hooked first.
FloatingRock on January 31, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Allah
…………..
…
the jiggalo..
blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM
ahhh the time tested and proved “how to make a crackhead” model…
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM
As a member from the very first day Hot Air opened its operations, I always said you ought to have a donation button, or that I’d be glad to otherwise pay to be a member here.
I’m no longer sure that I would do so, because, frankly this place has gone from insightful and full of good rational discussions to being mostly stupid and nasty.
My own reading of the site has gone from several hours a day on average to just a few minutes a day. From hundreds, maybe thousands of hits and page refreshes per day to a couple of dozen at best.
I was so glad when Hot Air started up because I was getting sick of Free Republic for pretty much the same reasons mentioned above. Yet since the last couple or rounds of open registration, I have been participating more at FR , because it is actually more civil than this place has become.
Go ahead and start that membership fee; Maybe the nasty little trolls would go away and Hot Air would again be my favorite internet hangout.
Oh, and I’ll pay extra if Michelle will take a more active part in the threads, and start doing the daily Vents again.
LegendHasIt on January 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Snarky Post…Isn’t he a blogger at HuffPo, or izzat the Daily Kossack? So many bloggers, so little time left to exercise our 1st Amendment rights.
If HA needs some dough, I’ll contribute. Sites like Lucianne.com started doing that years ago.
Christine on January 31, 2009 at 2:37 PM
AP, what’s the traffic comparison between Hot Air and Free Republic? Is it close enough to warrant a quarterly Hot Air-athon like they have over there?
SnarkVader on January 31, 2009 at 2:37 PM
I agree with IrishEi. I hardly even read my newspaper anymore. I would gladly cancel my subscription and throw the money to HA.
dfwaggie on January 31, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I’ve tried to make money off my blog. I obtained a journalism degree at the perfect time :(
Any advice for someone trying to make some extra cash doing some political blogging? Anyone?
terryannonline on January 31, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I see an FTD ad on my page. Flowers are one of the most lucrative click-throughs. Go people.
DarkCurrent on January 31, 2009 at 2:38 PM
That was in reference to: Dr Evil on January 31, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Christine on January 31, 2009 at 2:39 PM
I totally agree. I miss those vids.
MadisonConservative on January 31, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I think I like the idea of pay-to-comment best (pay-to-play!). I’d pay a pretty penny for access to HA– I love this site– but if it was pay-to-access, wouldn’t it be near impossible to attract new people; ie, how to you get paid readers if they don’t know what they’re missing?
I converted a few people into HotAir heads during the election; I’d hate for the word-of-mouth factor to die if it was pay-to-access.
Pasalubong on January 31, 2009 at 2:40 PM
put some ads up on your site and shamelessly plug your site in comments… I just went to your site to click on an ad, too bad there were none for me to click.
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I’m sure the RNC would love having their official blogger go by the name “AllahPundit”. (Rolls eyes)
Seriously, you guys will be fine. HA is uniquely prepared to handle this simply because you guys have two different audiences heading to the same place. Let’s be honest, while you and Ed have a lot of crossover, you have different styles and attract different readership. And on the very, very, very, very, very off chance that MM decides it is no longer financially viable to bankroll your arsenal of Eeyore conservatism, artificial religious controversies, and Palinmania blogdom, someone out in the internets will.
Congratulations! You win the internets!
malan89 on January 31, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I didn’t mean me, obviously. I’m radioactive to any mainstream institution. As, I suspect, is Ace.
Allahpundit on January 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Allah – I wouldn’t pay for just any online site, but I’d pay for this one.
You put out a quality product and people will pay for it. You just need to find the right price point.
JadeNYU on January 31, 2009 at 2:42 PM
So I guess the Helen Thomas idea is a no go…..
Seven Percent Solution on January 31, 2009 at 2:42 PM
As surprised as I am to be agreeing with you, Bradky, you may have a point. As much as I like Michelle, I don’t go there nearly as much as I would if I were able to comment. And I certainly wouldn’t pay a dime for it, for the same reason.
califcon on January 31, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Bradky on January 31, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I visited A LOT before I could comment. Was looking forward to the next open registration – then I got busy and spaced it and came home to “HotAir comment registration is now closed” post in the left column! Gaagh! Had to lurk for a few more months ’til the next one but it was worth it.
Just the other day on the radio there was discussion about how some big brand of scotch used to be considered a middling quality, so they decided to double their price and their sales actually went UP! Perceived value, baby. Put a modest price tag on reading and/or commenting privileges and people will want to be “in the club.”
innominatus on January 31, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Wrong. People get tossed out of places they’ve paid to enter all the time. That’s why club bouncers exist.
You have the muscle — ban hammer baby. Most of the dunces would likely re-enroll just to talk sh*t and get booted again.
The Race Card on January 31, 2009 at 2:43 PM
I’d pay $1000 for booting privileges.
Ronnie on January 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Good question. I’m sure they do much more than we do; they’ve been around for so much longer. The Freepathon is the sort of thing we’d do if the crunch got really bad.
Alternately, I can see us opening a diary or bulletin board section if we became desperate for extra traffic. That would boost our numbers a lot, but at a steep price of quality control.
Allahpundit on January 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM
A Conservative Cookies bake sale sounds like a good idea.
Actually, $5 a month for members and a talk radio spot sounds like a good bet (ala Rush), a broadsheet style site with abstracts that fly out?
Just suggestions.
Speakup on January 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM
As a blogger…maybe but as a advisor/analyst I think you would do very well.
Bradky on January 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM
You could just pull an Iowahawk and have a little box in the corner: “Beer Fund: Pay Up, Suckas”.
Hey, you never know how many people might fill up that tip jar…
Pasalubong on January 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I’d pay it if I didn’t have to read another religion/atheism bashing headline.
Can’t we all just “get along”?
hahaha
csdeven on January 31, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I feel the same about the snarkiness and nastiness.
blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Bars do it all the time.
Jim Treacher on January 31, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Oh! So now I’m a dunce?
The Race Card on January 31, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Yeah. There are plenty of sheeple out there that are fooled by that tactic.
csdeven on January 31, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Dudes, you cant go away… thats just tragic to even consider. Ive been here since the start.
Viper1 on January 31, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Well, I’m sure some of those kids get an allowance. This will not get rid of all the trolls.
hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are….. heh.
Hog Wild on January 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM
I agree.
I think Allahpundit’s research/analytical and writing skills are very good.
ColtsFan on January 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM
I have some Google Ads on my site at the very top. Plus, if I shamelessly plug my site, won’t people find that annoying?
terryannonline on January 31, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Iowahawk does not maintain his site as full-time employment, I think he’s pretty diversified. Although, he is unparalleled in teh funny department, that’s for sure.
califcon on January 31, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Are you two guys at each others throats again?
: – O
thomasaur on January 31, 2009 at 2:50 PM
So who would one contact to put an ad on this site next week?
Ronnie on January 31, 2009 at 2:51 PM
I hear the 70 something heartland social cons that actually still visit the RNC’s website absolutely love the f-bomb and flaming skulls.
malan89 on January 31, 2009 at 2:51 PM
The “tip jar” won’t work AP. If you and Ed decide to stay together and make a go at this, an annual membership fee is the only way you will make this work long term. you can’t depend on tip jar money as a way to make a living.
For what it’s worth coming from a business owner of 27 years.
Figure out your annual overhead costs best you can; server fee’s and such. Figure out what you need for an annual salary. Make sure to include all overhead; taxes, accounting, legal, and insurance if any applies. Divide that number by a conservative number of subscribers, and charge an annual fee somewhere in the neighborhood of that number.
My best guess, is that you could get 20,000 members within the first month. Many more will follow. You don’t need to call your blog HotAir or Captains Quarters. The two of you are the vehicle, and the forum for discussion is the destination. If you could get the annual membership fee down to around 20 bucks, you will not need ads that take up valuable space. Forget the ads, and give us pure red meat.
Rush Limbaugh will help you in any way he can. I would recommend having guest posters on a regular basis. Start with Rush himself. Rush has an eye on Captain Ed, and I don’t blame him. Ed has a gift AP, it’s called the language of the heart. Stop writing about Sarah Palin, get her to write a guest post herself. Get other Conservative politicians to guest post. Think big, as we need to stick together and stand as one.
I’d sign up on day one!
Keemo on January 31, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Actually the more people pay for a service the better behaved they are.
The worst actors are always the ones who get something for free.
Speakup on January 31, 2009 at 2:51 PM
IowaHawk and teh AP is tehh deffinittions of resessions prrof.
malan89 on January 31, 2009 at 2:53 PM
…and that price will be time, bar none. WordPress? That’s cake compared to VBulletin if you get into that.
MadisonConservative on January 31, 2009 at 2:54 PM
I think a paypal button would not be a bad idea; it doesn’t cost you anything really to have up and if you just asked folks for a couple bucks every month or so you would get, well, you should get, a decent amount. Like other folks have said, I don’t subscribe to any newspapers or watch that much tv (the tv exists solely for the xbox); I get the weightier part of my news and analysis here and that has a value which I’d be willing to pay for.
Mr. Bingley on January 31, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I can’t get over this news…
For what it’s worth, I’m most certainly willing to plunk down some $$$ to keep HotAir going. Sign me up for a years membership!
JetBoy on January 31, 2009 at 2:55 PM
terryann, I don’t want to sound mean, but a journalism degree is never very useful in any economy.
DarkCurrent on January 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Does anyone have an example of a blog that you have to pay membership fees? I’m not familiar with any.
terryannonline on January 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM
HotAir is a valuable resource that provokes intelligent thought and good laughter. Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit make a classic team, sort of like Laurel & Hardey, Burns & Allen, Spock & McCoy, Rocky & Bullwinkle . . .
So, thank you.
Please find a means to keep this going.
Loxodonta on January 31, 2009 at 2:57 PM
I know. I’ve learned the hard way. Believe me.
terryannonline on January 31, 2009 at 2:57 PM
wow those are small… (I clicked one or two) I would suggest a few more larger ads, like the 300×300 squares at the bottom of each post, and a skyscraper on the side. wordpress has some plugins for adsense.
well as “the race card” loves to point out, not if it’s relevant… I click on lots of the links to people’s sites and don’t mind a bit, I like getting multiple points of view. the only people it will bother is a few anal retentive commenters and who cares what they think… the whole point of blogs is to link and inform. that’s one of the problems with ads on blogs, most sites that make money do so by providing a service or product, blogs product or service is links to other sites, so inevitably you send your “customer” away from your site to an informative site and not to an advertiser. that’s why blogs do well with ad models like those damn hover ads in the text of the website. that’s what news sites like foxnews do.
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 2:57 PM
I like Hot Air more for the convenience of seeing the latest headlines that concern me. To be brutally honest, the commentary is not my cup of tea. I have noticed AP and even Ed seem to buy into some of the premises of the lefties.
From a business perspective, again to be brutally honest, anyone running a site who was depending mainly on Pajamas Media ads to support themselves was being naive if they thought that was going to go on forever. You need to diversify your revenue stream more, or heaven forbid, the bloggers need to get other jobs and do this on a part time basis.
I run a site that gets 20,000 page views a day and it took tons of work to get it to that point, even still it will probably never get to the point where I could live off of it. You need to get millions of eyeballs per day to do that. I would probably donate to this site from time to time having said all that though, I wouldn’t want to see it go away.
echosyst on January 31, 2009 at 2:58 PM
I read Hot Air first thing, every morning. I would pay a yearly subscription.
rroubaix on January 31, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Allah,
I hear Natalie Dylan has some good ideas on raising cash.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 31, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Sounds like you’ve really improved your reading skills. I admire your diligence.
Next, you can work on your counting. ☺
The Race Card on January 31, 2009 at 2:59 PM
The official Hot Air Car Wash and Bake Sale. Michelle makes the cookies, AP and Ed scrubbing the hood in bikinis.
It’s a gold mine.
Professor Blather on January 31, 2009 at 3:00 PM
I would too, Allah/Ed/Michelle…this, drudge and MMalkin is WHERE I get the news. Granted, as long as it isn’t super-duper expensive. But, without you guys…I would be *sniffle* lost.
Mommypundit on January 31, 2009 at 3:02 PM
WEll,this has got to be a
Vast Left Wing Conspiracy
Kabal,to bring H/A down!
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Its not! Dammit!
Yes,I will pay,to some degree,to get my snarks off,
because this is the best outlet on the planet,and
Conservative forum!:)
canopfor on January 31, 2009 at 3:02 PM
I didn’t see this. I would quickly and easily pay this yearly.
Mommypundit on January 31, 2009 at 3:03 PM
echosyst on January 31, 2009 at 2:58 PM
how can you not live off 20,000 pages views a day? what site is it may I ask? I make a living off 5000.
Kaptain Amerika on January 31, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Use BillO’s technique. I have been a paying premium member for some time and I don’t know what it is…
IlikedAUH2O on January 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I canceled my 25-year daily subscription to the LA Times aka Pravda almost 2 years ago. I was paying, I think, $21/month for that garbage.
Maybe there aren’t any blogs currently charging membership fees, terryann, but it’s a whole new world we’re headed into and I can see it coming. I’ve always wondered how such excellent content and commentary, along with the chance to express one’s 2 cents, was ever free to begin with, quite frankly.
califcon on January 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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