A 10% cut at the Pentagon?

posted at 9:42 am on January 31, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

While the Obama administration tries pushing through its trillion-dollar porkfest of Mall resodding and Medicare expansion, the Pentagon has gotten a much different mission from the White House.  President Obama has demanded a 10% reduction in the defense budget for FY2010, even while we fight a war in Afghanistan and conduct counterterrorist operations around the world:

The Obama administration has asked the military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff to cut the Pentagon’s budget request for the fiscal year 2010 by more than 10 percent — about $55 billion — a senior U.S. defense official tells FOX News.

Last year’s defense budget was $512 billion. Service chiefs and planners will be spending the weekend “burning the midnight oil” looking at ways to cut the budget — looking especially at weapons programs, the defense official said.

Ah … those would be weapons systems that actually employ people, create jobs, and help defend the nation.  That may not be as sexy, figuratively and literally, as buying billions of condoms, but it means that a significant number of good paying (and likely union) jobs will disappear.

I’m not going to argue that the defense budget doesn’t have fat.  I’ve seen defense contracting from the inside, and it stinks.  However, unlike the Obama stimulus bill that will cost more than twice as much as the 2010 defense budget, it’s not 90% fat.  Director Blue reminds us of a few numbers:

• $83 billion in welfare payments
• $81 billion for Medicaid
• $66 billion on “education”, more than the entire Department of Education required just ten years ago
• $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
• $20 billion for food stamps
• $8 billion on “renewable energy” projects, which have a low or negative return
• $7 billion for “modernizing federal buildings and facilities”
• $6 billion on urban transit systems, dominated by unions and which, almost universally, lose money
• $2.4 billion for “carbon-capture demonstration projects”
• $2 billion for child-care subsidies
• $1 billion for Amtrak, the federal railroad that’s run in the red for 40 years
• $650 million for “digital TV conversion coupons” (on top of billions already spent)
• $600 million on new cars for government (added to the $3 billion already spent each year)
• $400 million for “global-warming research”
• $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts

Obama’s busy expanding all of the rest of the government except for its primary, Constitutional mission: defending the nation.


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I’m going to be interested to see the commentary at the military blogs on this…

Michael in MI on January 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Hmmm, what’s more important: the defense budget or STD education. The defense budget or A.C.O.R.N.

Michael in MI on January 31, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Obama’s busy expanding all of the rest of the government except for its primary, Constitutional mission: defending the nation.

That says it all ED. I wonder if he’s signed his letter to Achmedinijad: “XXXXOOOOs, Barry”.

The Picture is perfect. As we say in Dixie, Mr. President is All Hat. No Cattle.

kingsjester on January 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Its all part of the long term plan to castrate the United States. Dismantle the military so that we can’t act, socialize the nation.

Pray for the Republic.

johnsteele on January 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM

He’s looking out for America’s welfare.

PaddyJ on January 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM

This could be a bone to the anti-military elements in the party. Ever since 9-11 the Pentagon has received about $100 billion in GWOT supplementals. As we draw down in Iraq the requirement for supplemental funding will fall. Obama’s real agenda for defense will not be apparent until the FY11 budget comes out next year.

jerryofva on January 31, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Well, when someone attacks pretty soon, we can rally and run this idiot out of office.
My entire neighborhood is stocking up on guns and ammo. Most of them are law-enforcement. Sweet

Offshore_Drilling on January 31, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I wouldn’t worry too much about that, Congress never even passed a defense budget for 2008, and I don’t know whether they passed one for 2009 either. So why start now?

scalleywag on January 31, 2009 at 9:48 AM

No one should be surprised by this in the least. At least no one that was paying attention to what the man actually said during his campaign, rather than acting like a teenage girl in heat at a Beatles concert.

Does anyone have the link to that youtube that has him saying this explicitly?

turfmann on January 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Rush is right. This tool is going as far left as he can, as fast as he can. Hopefully this information will make it’s way to the media….cutting our defense while enhancing welfare benefits is foul.

anniekc on January 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM

I hope most of the people who lose their jobs voted for Hussein.

Enjoy AmeriKKKa!

artist on January 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Don’t worry. We’ll all be safe with that unicorn defense shield.

KelliD on January 31, 2009 at 9:50 AM

There is a reason I can’t find one person in my OCS class who will admit to voting for Obama.

Almost all of them – and almost all of our instructors – have voiced horror at his election.

He is no friend of the military. And we know it.

Barry Obama hates green people.

My apologies to Kanye West for stealing his shtick.

Professor Blather on January 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Where’s the civilians defense force?

artist on January 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM

A page out of the Clinton playbook — not surprising since his chief advisors wrote the damn thing.

fiscallyconservative on January 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxL8NcNACBY

johnsteele on January 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM

I’m going to be interested to see the commentary at the military blogs on this…

Michael in MI on January 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM

You want to see some high casualty rates Code Pink, MSM, et al to prove we need to get out of the GWOT? Hold on to your seats.

You “Conservative” Dems who voted for the “one” because he sounded like he would take care of the military…

Suckers!

I’m glad we got our aircraft ready for this next deployment to OEF under the Bush Administration.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Body armor, what body armor?

Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM

surprise! Look the media kept this quiet for Obama so he could pretend to be tough on national security. We are all gonna pay for this, maybe not not in the next couple years, but as fascist regimes around the globe become stronger and emboldened something is gonna have to give.

rob verdi on January 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM

He has no clue what’s important for our nation and what isn’t. None whatsoever. Iran must love reading what this tool is doing to our country.

scalleywag on January 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Pray for the Republic.

johnsteele on January 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Prepare to Defend the Republic. There will be plenty of time later we can pray we eliminated all the socialists/communists.

trs on January 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM

where does Murtha stand on this?

rob verdi on January 31, 2009 at 9:53 AM

All those people in Virginia and other defense contracting states, who voted for Mr. Obama,hope you’re enjoying the ride, to the unemployment line. We should at least be thankful it’s ONLY a ten percent cut, given Mr. Obama’s leftwing ideology, but hey, ten percent in each of the next four years would be a forty percent cut in defense spending, so the defense states will have even more hope and change to pass around.

eaglewingz08 on January 31, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I’m having Jimmy Carter flashbacks…

paustin110 on January 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM

All the Kings horses and all the Kings men could not put Obama back together again

izoneguy on January 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Wouldn’t it just be easier if we could see a list of his donors and major support groups so we could start checking off the paybacks. Frankly, I’m getting tired of guessing what’s coming next.

sherry on January 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Anybody have a guess on how many jobs will be lost as a result?

Pianobuff on January 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM

One part that bugs me is that $20 Billion for Food Stamps. Now, don’t get me wrong, I understand people fall on hard times and need some help from time to time, especially when they have children or medical situations. (Don’t get me started on when I get behind a food stamp user at the grocery store though… GRRRRR).

However, in the Kansas City area, I’ve heard a LOT of radio advertisements for signing up for food stamps. Tell me, if there is such a problem, if the money is so short in the program that it needs $20 BILLION more, then why are they trying to drive in more business???????

JamesLee on January 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Here is the youtube that I was referring to…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E

turfmann on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

*SIGH* Why must we pretend as if the Pentagon itself didn’t recommend these cuts right after the election. Jeez Ed, the hackery is reaching new heights.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/10/pentagon_board_says_cuts_essential/

From the article
A senior Pentagon advisory group, in a series of bluntly worded briefings, is warning President-elect Barack Obama that the Defense Department’s current budget is “not sustainable,” and he must scale back or eliminate some of the military’s most prized weapons programs.The briefings were prepared by the Defense Business Board, an internal management oversight body. It contends that the nation’s recent financial crisis makes it imperative that the Pentagon and Congress slash some of the nation’s most costly and troubled weapons to ensure they can finance the military’s most pressing priorities.

Those include rebuilding ground forces battered by multiple tours to Iraq and Afghanistan and expanding the ranks to wage the war on terrorism.

“Business as usual is no longer an option,” according to one of the internal briefings prepared in late October for the presidential transition, copies of which were provided to the Globe. “The current and future fiscal environments facing the department demand bold action.”

The briefings do not specify which programs should be cut, but defense analysts say that prime targets would probably include the new F-35 fight er jet, a series of Navy ship programs, and a massive Army project to build a new generation of ground combat vehicles, all of which have been skyrocketing in cost and suffering long development delays.

Such cuts would affect the New England economy. General Dynamics builds warships and submarines in Maine and Connecticut, while Raytheon, Massachusetts’ largest employer, is involved in numerous weapons programs from ships to missile defenses and satellites.

Pentagon insiders and defense budget specialists say the Pentagon has been on a largely unchecked spending spree since 2001 that will prove politically difficult to curtail but nevertheless must be reined in.

“The forces arrayed against terminating defense programs are today so powerful that if you try to do that it will be like the British Army at the Somme in World War I,” said Winslow Wheeler, director of the Straus Military Reform Project at the liberal Center for Defense Information in Washington. “You will just get mowed down by the defense industry and military services’ machine guns.”

Since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, funding has grown for both the annual defense budget and emergency spending for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The latest Pentagon budget, for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, is an estimated $512 billion, not including more than $800 billion in additional war spending that has been allotted since 2001.

But a series of forces are now at play that make such large expenditures untenable, according to the Defense Business Board, the Pentagon oversight group, which includes about 20 private sector executives appointed by the secretary of defense.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Well it’s not like we’re in the middle of a war or anything.

GarandFan on January 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Back to September 10th anyone? Poor misunderstood Muslim terrorists, we have more in common with them than not.

Kumbaya, unicorns in the fields and flowers in your hair and $100/pound steak for everyone…

johnsteele on January 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Of course the DoD has to cut 10%. How else is Dear Leader going to nominate more Democrats who don’t pay their taxes?

rbj on January 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM

JamesLee on January 31, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Get the voters hooked and dependent and he may just get a second term.

sherry on January 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM

If things start falling apart, we will be blaming you Mr. Obama.

You think you can charm your way out of this? Ha. Bill Clinton will be leading the charge to take you ou.

Mr. Joe on January 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM

My husband is retired from DOD civilian force and he says that asking for a percentage cut seemed to be the only way to get them to cut back but 10% is ridiculous. He remembers well the Clinton years. Not good for a peace time force, dangerous today.

Cindy Munford on January 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Another opinion on military spending! From SECDEF!

Gates in October told reporters that increasing long-range military spending would stimulate the economy and serve notice the U.S. is determined to carry on the fight against terrorism after the war in Iraq ends.

“If you want to talk about a stimulus package, the defense budget’s not bad, and obviously a lot of jobs around the country depend” on military spending, Gates said.

The Pentagon has drafted a fiscal 2010 spending plan that calls for $580.3 billion, including $34.4 billion in emergency war spending, according to a summary chart prepared last month by acting Comptroller Douglas Brook.

Cutting and pasting is a bit of a cherry picking affair isn’t it?

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Hack went to the Poptech School of Cut and Paste.

kingsjester on January 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Oh and we don’t have a clue at how much China is spending.

rob verdi on January 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

But go ahead and send your stimulus dollars to Nancy Peloski and her Planned Parenthood concept. There’ll be less of us for the terrorists to kill.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM

10% reduction… plus inflation… means a 14-16% decrease in buying power.

At a time when we are trying to INCREASE the size of the military, and fighting a war on TWO fronts…

oh and.. on this?

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

In any organization, you can find people saying exactly wheat you wish for them to say… does not make them correct… notice what they are saying is that “political forces” are going to force decreases… not that they are needed.

Well… sorry, but I am on the OTHER side from those political forces.

Romeo13 on January 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Yes I’m sure Robert Gates wants more defense spending, all I’m saying is that the cuts Obama is supporting now were recomended by the Pentagon’s independent oversight board in November with an eye on the sustainability in the military budget. No offense to Bob Gates, but does he have some track record of fiscal responsibility? Exactly.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM

kingsjester on January 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Obviously.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:08 AM

It’s the Democratic Nationalization Bill, plain and simple.

Don’t let up, keep contacting your Senators – call and email ‘em. This bill is the real “disaster” this country is facing.

dugan on January 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Hey, I’m down with some budget cutting.

I don’t doubt for one second that there is excessive waste at the Pentagon. Anything that gets real large eventually has a lot of unnecessary things.

I’m not saying we should sacrifice for security, but with an org. that large, there has to be something that can be sliced.

NOW
***

What is more important is this stimulus crap bill of course. I’m just saying we should do our best to be more monetarily efficient across the board.

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM

A quote from your link:

“The forces arrayed against terminating defense programs are today so powerful that if you try to do that it will be like the British Army at the Somme in World War I,” said Winslow Wheeler, director of the Straus Military Reform Project at the liberal Center for Defense Information in Washington. “You will just get mowed down by the defense industry and military services’ machine guns.”

Quoting a LIBERAL! Yes, enact the cuts, QUICKLY!

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM

… even while we fight a war in Afghanistan and conduct counterterrorist operations around the world …

Ed, I noticed you didn’t mention Iraq here … good, you’re one of the few to recognize that we’ve already won that war.

Tony737 on January 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM

But in the end Ed is right, his number one cause is defense of America, and 400 million for Global Whining doesnt defend anyone.

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Here is the youtube that I was referring to…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E

turfmann on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

This is one of the things that got me on board with Obama. You guys can’t say he’s not doing the things he ran on. And tht’s why it’s like…no one really is gonna be scared by this. Most Americans thnk we spend too much on the military and not enough at home. Guns v. Butter all over again. Sorry.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Another quote from “insiders and specialists”:

Pentagon insiders and defense budget specialists say the Pentagon has been on a largely unchecked spending spree since 2001 that will prove politically difficult to curtail but nevertheless must be reined in.

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Nice chart on some of the pork included within this phony stimulus bill…. These facts need to get out; quickly!

No surprise with this type of cuts. Clinton shrank our military horribly in the early 90′s; cutting hundreds of thousands of job in the process. Entire cities has built up around military facilities that were shut down by Clinton. These cities all dried up into ghost towns.

Liberalism doesn’t work, plain and simple. If a few years, Americans will be looking at ghost towns, unemployment rates at 10% or higher, record high inflation, and historical levels of devastation spread across the entire country. This will look much like the 2nd coming of President Carter; Carter on steroids. This will be painful, but is necessary for Americans to see Socialism, feel Socialism, & absorb the pain that is coming at us like a freight train at 200 mph….

I ask you Socialists that troll these waters this simple question. Imagine you’re a child once again, playing in your room with a brand new toy you just received from your parents. Your Mom comes in the room and says “O.K. honey, you have had your fun with your new toy, now it’s time we give this toy to the boy down the street.” You say “wait a minute mommy, that this is my toy; why are you taking it away!”

This is called “redistribution of money.” I work 5-6 days a week to support my family; put food on the table, a roof over their heads, and clothing on their backs. With Obama and the Liberals running our government, my family responsibilities just grew by some 15 million people. Best part of this program is that middle class Americans will shoulder 98% of this burden, while Obama and his band of tax heaters will pay nothing from their own pockets, and suffer no changes in their live styles. Do as we say, not as we do!

Keemo on January 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

they have such a massive budget. I don’t think its too crazy to assume there is large waste there.

KBR overcharging the Pentagon (aka our money) for food and laundry are two examples

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:13 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Then 1, don’t post and make us sound like we’re engaged in “hackery” because you’re trying to prove the point that the military itself doesn’t want the money.

And B, realize those cuts have an impact on the things my unit needs. One of the first to go is unearmarked funds that are allowed to unit S4s as GWOT dollars that a unit may spend as they need to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan. Those funds are used to purchase things we don’t have in our MTOEs like oh say flight gear for our doorgunners. Or maybe you’d like me to just scream over the noise of my helicopter to some guy with no flight helmet what to shoot at. Or maybe he/she doesn’t need survival gear.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM

cutting defense budget by 10%? he is just trying to make Russia, China, Iran and North Korea happy , that’s all

runner on January 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Dinner-jacket weighs in:

Iran says Obama’s offer to talk shows US failure

Pianobuff on January 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Most Americans thnk we spend too much on the military and not enough at home. Guns v. Butter all over again. Sorry.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

“Most Americans”, meaning the people at your weekly meeting at Code Pinko headquarters?

Sorry, but Americans have a deep attachment to the soldiers, regardless of what the spitting, flag-burning revisionists on the left have to say.

Bishop on January 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM

the Pentagon oversight group, which includes about 20 private sector executives appointed by the secretary of defense.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM

So, a bunch of CIVILIAN BUSINESS guys… say that for political reasons Defense spending is not sustainable… and you take that as meaning the PENTAGON says it?

LOL… you do know that the Pentagon has boards that look at every conceivable problem in the world? That they are even studying, by Congressional decree, Global Warming? That they have warplans for every country in the world??? And that often, these boards come up with competing viewpoints on many different subjects?

Romeo13 on January 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

A lot of folks who don’t know “think”.

Like I said, big American middle finger of fate to the military on 4 Nov 08.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Never fear. Obama-Jugend is on the march!

Defense Department Establishes Civilian Expeditionary Workforce

We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

Rae on January 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Um the things that are being proposed for cutting is not flight gear and armor, that was the Bush Administration who screwed you over on that remember? If you read the article and saw Obamas video you recall the spending that would be cut would be on DEVELOPMENT projects that have proven to be a waste of taxpayer money because they have not come to fruition. Is it impossible for you to conceede there could be waste in the Pentagon?

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM

“Most Americans thnk we spend too much on the military and not enough at home.”

Link the poll please.

Thanks in advance.

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:18 AM

This man is leading us to disaster.

Hate to say it, even to think it, but those in the military should seriously think about not reenlisting. The American people 54% of them anyway, having voted these people in, have said they DONT support you and the people elected from B. Hussein on down are just acting on it.

How many 9/11′s will it take before America wakes up and realizes that we are, in fact YEARS into World War III, and that islam IS the 21st century fascism and nazism, just cloaked in “religion”?

At least one more it seems.

wildcat84 on January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM

“cut would be on DEVELOPMENT projects that have proven to be a waste of taxpayer money because they have not come to fruition”

Should he cut AIDS research funding?

There is no cure, must be a waste.

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM

cutting defense budget by 10%? he is just trying to make Russia, China, Iran and North Korea happy , that’s all
runner on January 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM

And it had to start at 10%? Imagine the reaction from the libs if 10% were cut from Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps, welfare…”Oh GAIA! They’re trying to kill us off! You murdering fascists!”

Bishop on January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM

I hope most of the people who lose their jobs voted for Hussein.

Enjoy AmeriKKKa!

artist on January 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM

If only we could be so lucky. The sad reality is that, as we’ve heard from His devoted disciples, the people that voted for The One don’t have jobs, don’t pay taxes, don’t pay their bills and already exist by leaching off the goobermint. Of course, the *cough* “stimulus” is targeted toward these long-term unemployed, unskilled, non-professional and most importantly, non-white people. We have to make sure that the people that don’t contribute anything to society and have no desire to can get their new flatscreens from the Rent-a-Center. Of course, they will default on them in three months, but likely by then, Rent-A-Centers will qualify for the next round of bailouts.

The people that will lose their jobs are the people who are already paying for Obama voters to exist.

“There’s a time for profits, but this isn’t it”

Damiano on January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM

“Most Americans”, meaning the people at your weekly meeting at Code Pinko headquarters?

You’re just not going to accept the election happened are you? It must be sad to be where you are.

LOL… you do know that the Pentagon has boards that look at every conceivable problem in the world? That they are even studying, by Congressional decree, Global Warming? That they have warplans for every country in the world??? And that often, these boards come up with competing viewpoints on many different subjects?

Romeo13 on January 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Great show me the Pentagon board that has contradicted this one and I’m on your side.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:20 AM

The next 4 years will be “catch-up” time. Time for the whole world to catch up with America. And our military will pay dearly for it. Thanks, Obama.

bloggless on January 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Hate to say it, even to think it, but those in the military should seriously think about not reenlisting.

Enlistment is up since the election. btw.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM

For these idiots, business is the enemy, not the terrorist or foreign powers.

These are America’s darkest days.

We have truly entered the dark ages.

notagool on January 31, 2009 at 10:22 AM

“Enlistment is up since the election. btw.”

Link?

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM

That’s OK. The engineers who work on weapons systems and make $150K a year will be just fine when they lose their jobs. Uncle Barry will give them all “stimulus” jobs handing out condoms or replacing the grass on the Mall.

I’m sure those jobs pay just as well right?

angryed on January 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM

A poll? I’d be happy too :) Now proceed to claim the evidence you requested is illegit.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/26761/Perceptions-Too-Much-Military-Spending-15Year-High.aspx

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Here is the youtube that I was referring to…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E

turfmann on January 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM

This is one of the things that got me on board with Obama. You guys can’t say he’s not doing the things he ran on. And tht’s why it’s like…no one really is gonna be scared by this. Most Americans thnk we spend too much on the military and not enough at home. Guns v. Butter all over again. Sorry.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Dude, you clearly don’t get it (or perhaps you do and you’re complicit) that not only does the juxtaposition of entitlements for all vs. cuts for defense give cause for great concern, but the scorn and derision with which he gleefully gives his presentation. This man clearly hates the military and all that it stands for. The only ones that should not be surprised by this outrage are the patriots that took the time to learn about this guy before he became president and the traitorous sycophants that are now cheering this announcement.

turfmann on January 31, 2009 at 10:24 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM

It’s been going strong for quite some time

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Priorities!

terryannonline on January 31, 2009 at 10:25 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM

No, under the Bush Administration we did not suffer for money or gear. We were given GWOT funding to spend anyway a unit S4 deemed necessary to augment unit equipment supply needs and the supply tube to get rapid issue items like improved armor and up-armored vehicles went as fast as it could.

You’re the real hack because you don’t even trust the truth when it comes from the horses mouth. That cut will end our unearmarked GWOT dollars. Then anything we need (like extra flight gear because we identified the need for more doorgunners) will have to be 2028ed to change our MTOEs to get that equipment.

If you want a lesson on how it all works I’ll send you my e-mail address and set you up. Until then STFU because what you promote has a great possibility of getting me and my friends killed.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:25 AM

If enlistment is up, it might be because people know we will need a strong defense against what the Libs are going to do to this country.

bloggless on January 31, 2009 at 10:25 AM

I think most of us can all agree on the following:

Wasteful spending needs to be eliminated across the board. The Pentagon and military are not exempt from this. They get our tax dollars and should be using them as properly and as efficiently as possible. The Pentagon should not be paying KBR ridiculous prices for laundry, and we should not be paying 335,000,000 for STDs, 400,000,00 for Global Whining, and 5 billion for ACORN either.

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Racists!

Mr. Joe on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Why shouldn’t he cut defense spending?
He is already winninglosing the war by negotiating.
We don’t need any more budget for defense.
Iran declares: US has failed after offer of talks.

maynila on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Simple, the proposed Pentagon budget… until this order it did not show the decrease.

Romeo13 on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

The rape of our country is in the embryonic stage. The United States as we have known it will cease to exist before this is over.

A great civilization cannot be conquered from without until it destroys itself from within ~~~Ariel Durant

volsense on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Just becausse enlistment is up doesn’t mean it’s because they like Obama.

bloggless on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM

A poll? I’d be happy too :) Now proceed to claim the evidence you requested is illegit.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/26761/Perceptions-Too-Much-Military-Spending-15Year-High.aspx

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:24 AM

March 2, 2007???

Pianobuff on January 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM

“Enlistment is up since the election. btw.”

Link?

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Many :)
http://media.www.guilfordian.com/media/storage/paper281/news/2009/01/30/World/Recession.Leads.To.Rise.In.Enlistment.In.Armed.Forces-3605151.shtml

That article points out that the GI Bill Obama helped pushed through congress is a huge part of the incentive to sign up now.

Also this
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_608623.html

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

10% right off the bat seems a bit stiff.

Bishop on January 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Enlistment is up since the election. btw.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Rangel and other Liberals are working on a bill that would re-activate the military draft. I think you had better look closer at those numbers.

Keemo on January 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM

If enlistment is up, it might be because people know we will need a strong defense against what the Libs are going to do to this country.

bloggless on January 31, 2009 at 10:25 AM

No I think it is up because that’s the only job many people can find these days. Now please don’t take this as an insult to the military, but it is fact that enlistment in the armed forces goes up during recessions. It makes perfect sense.

angryed on January 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Enlistment is up since the election. btw.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Retention had dropped, dramatically! btw

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:29 AM

The Feb. 1-4 poll finds that 43% of Americans believe the government is spending too much for national defense and military purposes, while 35% say the government is spending the right amount and 20% say too little.

So, 43% we are spending too much, but 55% spend the same amount or MORE, and you think America wants Cuts?

Do you bother to READ your own evidence?

Romeo13 on January 31, 2009 at 10:29 AM

“um” you don’t’ cut waste that way. you cut waste across the board by looking at every department. he should start with the Department of Education if he really wants to cut waste. why single out the DoD ? because it is much more efficient at bookkeeping?

runner on January 31, 2009 at 10:29 AM

So, 43% we are spending too much, but 55% spend the same amount or MORE, and you think America wants Cuts?

Do you bother to READ your own evidence?

Romeo13 on January 31, 2009 at 10:29 AM

This poll is from 2007, no?

Pianobuff on January 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Hope The Chosen One at least let’s ‘em purchase the white flags.

GarandFan on January 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Bishop on January 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM

No doubt. I’m not saying he should cut 10 percent or whatever. I don’t know enough about their budget, but I do know that waste is there. The Pentagon is part of the government, remember!

But Obama has his priorities all wrong.

blatantblue on January 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

A poll? I’d be happy too :) Now proceed to claim the evidence you requested is illegit.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/26761/Perceptions-Too-Much-Military-Spending-15Year-High.aspx

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009

Amazing.

First: The poll doesn’t prove your initial assertion. It says NOTHING about “spending at home”.

Second: The poll is 2 years old!

Third: The polls says 55% say military spending is about right or NOT enough.

Care to try again?

artist on January 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

angryed on January 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM

None taken. It doesn’t mean those guys/gals still aren’t great Americans and true warriors. All of Media Hacks friends start selling drugs and knocking over convenience stores when the economy tanks.

hawkdriver on January 31, 2009 at 10:31 AM

bloggless on January 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Never claimed it was because people love Obama. Just pointing out that those who are like “don’t enlist because Obama is bad” are incredibly stupid and have no sense of the pulse of the country. How many elections do conservatives have to lose before they recognize this? I’m happy to see conservatism politically marginalized, but it’s a shame when the playbook is 100% unchanged from the 90s as if the nation were in the same place it was in the 90s. It’s not.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Most Americans thnk we spend too much on the military and not enough at home. Guns v. Butter all over again. Sorry.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM

How about some intellectual honesty for a change?

You do *not* believe “most” Americans think we don’t spend enough at home.

That’s just silly. Nobody thinks that. The vast majority of Americans – except those on the far-left fringe – want less spending and increased efficiency in ALL types of spending.

The point you seem oblivious to is that domestic spending on completely unneeded programs and departments far exceeds the military budget.

Efficiency and cost-cutting is not only fine – its imperative. But start where the waste is most egregious and where the programs are least important.

If you ever take a glance at the U.S. Constitution, you’ll note that of all the things Congress wastes money – only the military is specifically noted as being their responsibility.

Defense is the top priority of the federal government. You don’t start your spending cuts with your top priority. Not when there are countless other places … places to cut far more spending.

Professor Blather on January 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM

That article points out that the GI Bill Obama helped pushed through congress is a huge part of the incentive to sign up now.

Helped push through? Laughable, it was Webb’s bill and conveniently appeared in the heat of the campaign season, so Ogabe jumped on, flag lapel pin and all.

Bishop on January 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM

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