Video: Clyburn scoffs at Iraq withdrawal timetables

posted at 10:15 am on January 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Jim Geraghty likes to remind us that all of Barack Obama’s statements come with expiration dates, including his expiration dates. Rep. Jim Clyburn, one of Obama’s key allies in Congress, waltzes away from Obama’s commitment to a 16-month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq:

This doesn’t displease me, of course, except for the rank hypocrisy of Democrats like Clyburn during the campaign. He voted in favor of withdrawal timetables during the Bush administration. Clyburn also made headlines by lamenting the possibility of progress in Iraq, as it would impede his party’s attempts to impose timetables for withdrawal. Now, suddenly, Clyburn (and Obama) care about the recommendations of the generals on the ground and have no use for artificial timetables.

Talk about sunshine patriots! When Bush was in the White House, Clyburn did everything he could to undermine the war effort. Now that his ally has the job, Clyburn suddenly wants to play Wise Old Man. Feh.


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Well DUH, now that “D” is back in the White House, it’s time to be patriotic again.

Bishop on January 30, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Don’t tie anyones hands will ya? Obama needs to stay flexible.

Mr. Joe on January 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM

“Get out NOW”

Wonder where these people are nowadays?

javamartini on January 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM

But it was perfectly fine for an elected member of Congress to hope that Pres. Bush, thereby the United States, to fail. I think Rush has pointed this out. Where is the outrage?

Cindy Munford on January 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Oh, right, why do it in 16 when it would be so much easier to do it in 18? Makes perfect sense.

WisCon on January 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM

I for one would like to extend greetings to all of our Sunshine Patriots and those who are now proud to be Americans for the first time. Welcome liberals, we feel like this all the time here.

BohicaTwentyTwo on January 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Another example of society’s thankless underachievers riding on the backs, and usurping the success of the achievers.

Thank President Bush for all he has accomplished.

His success now serves an enhanced purpose of emphasizing how small the democrats are, both intellectually and morally, because they can’t resist taking credit for things done by people with far more character than they have.

This too is a gift.

jeff_from_mpls on January 30, 2009 at 10:26 AM

This is a surprise?

Bruno Strozek on January 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I hope this is a lesson to the out-of-power party for the time when they will be the majority again. “Power is useless if you don’t know how to use it” and the Dems surely do know how and they don’t care who likes them or doesn’t. Pay attention, Republicans…this is how you act when you can. Too bad you didn’t figure that out until it was too late.

hoosiermama on January 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM

When does the notification of expiration date come? Does it just go dark, or is their a flash message — Warning what I said before, whatever that was, is no longer operative.”

Make it up as you go, it called the fine old lost art of jive talk being revived.

tarpon on January 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Too bad you didn’t figure that out until it was too late.

hoosiermama on January 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I think they are still clueless.

jmarcure on January 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM

O/T Mr. Obama is going after Judd Gregg for Commerce, Dem Governor will pick replacement. NO Judd NO!!!!

Cindy Munford on January 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM

At least Guantanamo will be closed in a year, Obamas first motion getting laughed out of military court yesterday aside.

Chuck Schick on January 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM

A friend of mine calls politicians “oily”…I think he means “slippery” but either way, it applies.

d1carter on January 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM

So, in other words, Bush was right.

drjohn on January 30, 2009 at 10:38 AM

We knew this has coming. Absolutely knew it.

Jonah Goldberg even said explicitly that having the DIMocrats in charge of single party government would be the best thing for the War on Terror because only then would they take the war seriously and then take responsibility for it.

Yes, these people are rank. Well, below rank frankly. But you can’t argue with the facts … until this became their war they wanted no part of it. Now they want no part of losing it.

pabarge on January 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Now that his ally has the job, Clyburn suddenly wants to play Wise Old Man. Feh.

I was thinking a different F word would be more appropriate for Clyburn.

BadgerHawk on January 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Republicans…this is how you act when you can. Too bad you didn’t figure that out until it was too late.

hoosiermama on January 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM

While I share your desire to strike back in kind, I have to say I’m hoping for a more just outcome.

The democrat parasites are hoping their voters aren’t bright enough to figure out they lied — that the agenda they claimed to be running on was a quite different agenda than the one they’re enacting.

I’m going to hope the democrat voters have enough dignity to experience due humiliation. Nobody likes being lied to. People have limits.

jeff_from_mpls on January 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM

These ‘liberals’ are nothing but race whores, traitors and usurpers.

Is this news to anyone? Everything that is unfolding is tediously predictable.

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I hope someone is keeping a list of Obama’s campaign promises as compared to what he actually does in office. Yeah, all politicians make promises but this guy is breaking records and it’s only Hope Day 11.

Go RBNY on January 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM

To clarify:

Republicans own success in Iraq.

Democrats own the pork-stimulus package.

2010 here we come.

jeff_from_mpls on January 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM

this guy is breaking records and it’s only Hope Day 11.

Go RBNY on January 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM

….and that parasitic black chick (Debbie?) is still paying for her mortgage & gas.

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Well I did hope that the Democrats would change their position on Iraq. Guess I got my hopenchange.

rbj on January 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM

….and that parasitic black chick (Debbie?) is still paying for her mortgage & gas.

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM

+1

I hope she had an adjustable rate mortgage. A little anxiety is good for one’s character.

jeff_from_mpls on January 30, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Wars are just another tool in the Totalitarian bag of tricks.

Not quite as effective as Socialism because of the risk involved, but still a great way to manipulate the serfs.

notagool on January 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Yes, these people are rank. Well, below rank frankly. But you can’t argue with the facts … until this became their war they wanted no part of it. Now they want no part of losing it.

pabarge on January 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM

The only our military can loose any war is with the help of libs.

Johan Klaus on January 30, 2009 at 10:48 AM

A hypocritical democrat? NO WAY!!!

jukin on January 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM

OT : How come HA isn’t all over this story about the Hudson River crash survivors mumbling about suing US Airways? Mike Gallagher has a great article at Townhall. I even joked about ‘what kind of scumbag would sue’ when the story was fresh….there are clearly no limits to cynicism.

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Wars are just another tool in the Totalitarian bag of tricks.

notagool on January 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Read a little Mills.

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM

You can’t miss a chance to sue in the good old U.S.A., those that do think it is like winning the lottery. I hate ambulance chasers.

Cindy Munford on January 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM

I for one would like to extend greetings to all of our Sunshine Patriots and those who are now proud to be Americans for the first time. Welcome liberals, we feel like this all the time here. – Bohica22

Yeah, it’s a great feeling, isn’t it? Libs, remember who you felt when Obama won the elction, and when he was sworn in? That’s how we feel everyday, even when things aren’t going so well. See, ’cause we love our country unconditionally, no matter WHO is in office.

Tony737 on January 30, 2009 at 10:55 AM

How remarkably predictable…

Mark Garnett on January 30, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I even joked about ‘what kind of scumbag would sue’ when the story was fresh

What kind of scumbag would sue when you just walked away from an aquatic plane crash caused by a bird and the only damage you suffered was wet socks?

I’d be sending US Airways a check for having the skill or luck to hire a pilot as nervy and skilled as Sully.

Bishop on January 30, 2009 at 10:56 AM

CLyburne is THE WORST..He says AAs are more affected by global warming, he called BIg Dawg a frakin racist and was FIRST to play that card in SC after HRC won NH..yep a real piece of work is Clyburne..the rat fraker///

ginaswo on January 30, 2009 at 10:56 AM

So let me see if i got this straight. The media and dems are in a uproar, because Rush wanted Obama’s policies to fail. And that is unpatriotic. Yet some of the dems like this jerkoff, wanted the military to fail, just so Bush would look bad and they could get votes, and that was patriotic dissent.

Wow i guess my Hope&Change decoder ring is working.

MDWNJ on January 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I bet several passengers, due to a near-death experience, will undergo a personal transformation that fills their lives with more meaning than it had before the crash.

By ambulance-chaser logic, the passenger received an unexpected benefit from their contract with the airline. Should they not be required to compensate the airline, on the same theory that a bank customer who accidentally gets a $250,000 check must give it back?

jeff_from_mpls on January 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM

How come HA isn’t all over this story about the Hudson River crash survivors mumbling about suing US Airways? – Geek

Sue the damn birds!

Tony737 on January 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM

If you guys listen carefully we are not pulling our troops out of Iraq. We are just pulling out the combat troops big difference. I think this is going to turn into another Bosnia where we still have troops there it’s just no one care or the media doesn’t report on it anymore. I don’t think we are leaving there anytime soon.

Brat4life on January 30, 2009 at 10:58 AM

… and the only damage you suffered was wet socks – Bishop

Oh the horror! WET SOCKS! I might catch a COLD! I’ll see YOU in COURT!

Tony737 on January 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM

We are just pulling out the combat troops … – Brat

Yeah, and he says the troops that do stay are there to help COMBAT terrorism … so why are we pulling out COMBAT troops?

Tony737 on January 30, 2009 at 11:01 AM

The U.S. is involved in two wars and I find it interesting that the new President has yet to make a major speech or statement about either.

I also find it curious that our new Secretary of State has yet to visit any foreign country, let alone Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel.

albill on January 30, 2009 at 11:05 AM

To go to afganastan. Where they are really needed so he says. From what I here there are people still doing 365′s there so there is no way that they are going to come home before their time is up. If the media doesn’t report on it noone will know.

Brat4life on January 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Wise Old Man, indeed. Clyburn can’t speak in complete sentences; he’s an imbecile. He makes Bush look positively eloquent.

Jaibones on January 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM

I bet several passengers, due to a near-death experience, will undergo a personal transformation that fills their lives with more meaning than it had before the crash.

That would be my reaction…I’d be walking on air. Every hug & kiss would be sweeter. I’d publicly thank US Airways for having such talented pilots, and I’d hug the air out of Sully’s lungs.

By ambulance-chaser logic, the passenger received an unexpected benefit from their contract with the airline. Should they not be required to compensate the airline, on the same theory that a bank customer who accidentally gets a $250,000 check must give it back?

jeff_from_mpls on January 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM

That is a beautifully Machiavellian twist. I like your thinkin’ ;)

LimeyGeek on January 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM

MDWNJ if your decoder ring is on demsocialistraitor setting you will always be able to decipher demspeak. Frankly if the consequences of premature withdrawal from Iraq weren’t so serious I’d lobby the republicans to introduce bills to cut off funding for the troops past the sixteen month timeline Obama said was critical during the campaign (maybe even twelve months) to force him to come to Congress hat in hand to explain why he changed his mind.
Maybe I’d even write a Resolution “apologizing” to Iran, as part of Obama’s new policy of bootlicking terror supporting regimes in the world, and see how many democraps sign onto the resolution. Maybe even sponsor a Mahmoud Ahmadinejab Day to ‘heal wounds’ between our nations and to ‘recognize the contributions that Persians have made to civilization’ like suicide bombers and IEDs.

eaglewingz08 on January 30, 2009 at 11:19 AM

The only (way) our military can loose any war is with the help of libs.

Johan Klaus on January 30, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Johan:

Corrected your message to your obvious intend.

I also agree wholeheartedly with it but be encouraged. During the Vietnam Dems-induced- debacle, there was not an Internet.

Now, there is one and more important with Iraq having oil, there is unprecedented encouragement to make sure that they don’t screw the pooch in their watch.

Because this time, the people may not forget, especially after their first long line at the gas station.

El Coqui on January 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Because this time, the people may not forget, especially after their first long line at the gas station.

El Coqui on January 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Yeah, I remember the lines, when the peanut farmer was prez.

Johan Klaus on January 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Johan:

Corrected your message to your obvious intend.
El Coqui on January 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Yeah, brain fade. That happens when you get old.

Johan Klaus on January 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

James Clyburn (May 10, 2007):

Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days.

To provide for the redeployment of US Armed Forces and defense contractors from Iraq. Requires within 90 days to commence the redeployment; and to complete such redeployment within 180 days after its commencement. Prohibits the use of DOD funds to increase the number of US forces serving in Iraq in excess of the number serving in Iraq as of January 1, 2007, unless specifically authorized by Congress. Authorizes retaining in Iraq US forces for providing security for diplomatic missions; for targeting al-Qaeda; and for training Iraqi Security Forces. Requires the President to transfer to the government of Iraq all interest held by the US in any military facility in Iraq.

Proponents support voting YES because:

This war is a terrible tragedy, and it is time to bring it to an end. This is a straightforward bill to redeploy our military forces from Iraq and to end the war in Iraq. This bill does not walk away from the Iraqi people. It specifically continues diplomatic, social, economic, and reconstruction aid. Finally, this bill leaves all the decisions on the locations outside of Iraq to which our troops will be redeployed wholly in the hands of our military commanders.

Reference: Out of Iraq Caucus bill; Bill H R 2237 ; vote number 2007-330 on May 10, 2007

mankai on January 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM

If, at the end of the day, the artists formerly known as The Surrender Caucus suddenly find themselves in the position of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, (as in the case of the Surrender’s lead vocalist Clyburn now saying “listen to the Generals/dont leave too soon”) thats about as good as we’re ever likely to get out of them.

If the enemey of my enemy is my friend, that covers Demos who now stand against untimely withdrawal that could give away a victory (not WW2 caliber, but a victory…if it holds)even if they were/are privately still Surrender Monkeys.

Mike D. on January 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Demanding a withdrawal in 90 days… there’s another Dem bill the GOP should reintroduce.

mankai on January 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM

These idiots are complete panzies..

Now that the war has been almost won..
In iraq at least
they are all scrambeling
to suck up to media and make themselves look like patriots.

their all traitors..

They remind me of jane fonda what a disgrace..
to this day no veteran wants to even see that bitch..

jcila on January 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM

These rotten partisans — they didn’t give a rat’s arse about our troops, who would have taken the brunt of the casualties with failure in Iraq.

These bastards are playing with the lives of our men and women in uniform. Shame on you Democrats.

Richard Romano on January 30, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Note to MSNBC… he’s from SOUTH Carolina, not North Carolina.

mankai on January 30, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Part of the Communist Manifesto, in action….

DL13 on January 30, 2009 at 1:41 PM

From Clyburn (and Dem leaders) letter to Bush:

“It is difficult for Members of Congress to support your economic policies when there is no reasoned estimate of their impact,” they said. “We are eager for some reassurance that your economic projections and estimates are based in reality, not political fiction.”

Good questions for the current president.

mankai on January 30, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Clyburn spoke to a trade group I work with a couple of times. In March 2003 he told us we couldn’t invade Iraq with summer coming on because Saddam had chemical weapons and our troops would not be able to fight in their chem suits.

Then in September 2008 he said that we used to have the GI Bill to educate our troops when they came home but now they don’t learn anything when they leave the service. That’s right, he suggested we had repealed the GI Bill and that the troops are dumb. The guy’s a complete moron and tool.

SD on January 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Everything this administration and the Republican Rubber Stamp Congress touches turns into deficits. – Clyburn in 2006

Deficits? We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

What was the problem in 2006? The deficits weren’t high enough for ya?

mankai on January 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Ed, this would have been the perfect post to link back to the video of Clyburn essentially admitting that Democrats want us to be defeated in Iraq:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/31/clyburn-it-would-be-a-real-big-problem-for-us-if-petraeuss-progress-report-is-good/

RightWinged on January 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Human refuse.

Cylor on January 30, 2009 at 3:58 PM

The democrats did everything they could to bring on defeat in Iraq for political gain.

They ended up being wrong on just about every major point involving the Iraq war.

liberals said:

We could never win in Iraq

Sunni,Shia,and Kurds would never get along

That we would lose 10′s of thousands of troops and millions of Iraqis would die

That they would never respect the voting process(3 already
1 more this month)

That our troops were the cause of the problem

That al-qaeda was not in Iraq before we invaded (see 2008 senate intelligence report)

And Mr. super intelligent liberal Messiah himself claimed this:

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, on January 10 2007 predicted that the surge of troops in Iraq would fail. “I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there,” he told MSNBC. “In fact, I think it will do the reverse.”

Four days later he told CBS’s Face the Nation that “we cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality — we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, I don’t know any expert on the region or any military officer that I’ve spoken to privately that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.”

What a brilliant chosen one the liberals are on their knees to.

Basically democrats voted to send our men and women into battle,then when the going got tough and the polls changed
they:

Congressman admits Democrats “stretched the facts,” misled anti-war supporters about supposed plans for ending War
Submitted by Jeff Emanuel on Thu, 05/22/2008 – 8:18pm.
http://jeffemanuel.net/paul-kanjorski-pa-11-admits-democrats-lied-about-being-able-to-end-war-in-iraq

Transcript:

“I’ll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we…the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn’t say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody was a good student of Government would know that wasn’t true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts…and people ate it up.”

OHH yes.
Using the lives of our Soldiers for political gain
How Progressive!!!!

Democrats Mull Politicizing Iraq War Intelligence
Wednesday, November 05, 2003

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102206,00.htmlget_a(300,250,”frame1″);

The memo, provided late Tuesday by a source on the Committee and reported by Fox News’ Sean Hannity, discusses the timing of a possible investigation into pre-war Iraq (search) intelligence in such a way that it could bring maximum embarrassment to President Bush in his re-election campaign.

As we well know now,Bush has been vindicated by Rockafeller and the democrats as a whole in the bogus “Bush lied” slander.Every investigation has shown that Bush did not lie or manipulate intelligence.

Mr. Clyburn was right there with them committing the same treasonous slander of Bush during a time of war.

Using the difficulties of war to undermine our mission in Iraq and stab our Soldiers in the back.
How Progressive!!!!!

Baxter Greene on January 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM