The point is that the language he uses in general (Alinsky-ed, socialist bla bla bla) isn’t necessarily over people’s heads…it just doesn’t resonate with people unless you’re on the far right.

crr6 on January 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM

“Alinskeed” is right on the money and Rush should use the word often. Not because of the tactic Rush talks about, there is nothing new about that tactic and Rush does the same thing to Democrats all the time. It’s good to use the Alinsky name with repetition so that moderates will understand Obama’s radical communist tendencies.

I agree that the word “socialism” doesn’t have any resonance. Most people probably think it sounds like a nice thing. It would be much more useful to describe things in terms of the Communist Manifesto. “Fifth Planking”, for instance, could be used to characterize the bank bailouts; “First Planking to characterize eminent domain, etc.

I don’t think anything will change regarding this cycle until a group of people with the mindset the forefathers had come forward and rectify this situation on a more permanent basis.

I’m guessing it would have to start with a THIRD party at this point, but the cahones are absent at the moment in the general populace. I guess things have to hit bottom and go even LOWER before the asshats take the ass out of their hats and move in the right direction.

Maybe this song phrase is true; “Freedom’s just another word for ‘nothing left to lose’”.

As far as the tax cut math, what you don’t seem to understand is 1) you’re not going to stimulate growth by giving tax cuts to people who don’t need it, and 2) wealth is not created solely by those who have it.

Have you ever been employed by a poor person?

If Americans are dumb and conformist enough to fall for it, they deserve what´s coming to them.

and lemme guess, “Barack the Magic Negro” isn’t racist, either?

Noneya on January 30, 2009 at 3:15 PM

That is correct, unless you believe the originator of the article at the L. A. Times, which “Barack the Magic Negro” is a spoof of, was being racist.

BTW, the people who want you to be TOOLED have been working hard at Google to keep the truth from you. I just worked overtime to open just one of these sites, and I was NOT hit by ANY malware.

So yet again we get a person who doesn’t listen to Rush claim to be the purveyor of all Rush associated knowledge. OWNED! :oP

Look how badly he humiliated Harry Reid, AP. He’s going to do the same to Obama, trust me.

One of the reasons I think Rush will be able to do this is because he has a finely honed sense of the absurd, and a great sense of humor. I think both of those traits have been bred out of progressives/leftists/Dems. When you can make somebody laugh at your opponent, you know you’re winning.

And I have to agree with somebody who earlier chided AP for taking the numbers from Democracy Corps at face value. Always look at who’s behind the source of any statistics, Allah.

Yeah, I know you hate that Obama speaks well, but most of us enjoy having a president that doesn’t trip all over himself mentally and linguistically.

Wasn’t one the Democrat’s criticisms of Reagan that he was just an actor and that had trained him to speak well?

Reagan could speak well without a teleprompter.

Now stop being such a freaking pessimist all the time!

Yeah, I know you hate that Obama speaks well, but most of us enjoy having a president that doesn’t trip all over himself mentally and linguistically.

Which is practically irrelevant when one is lying through his teeth. You are ignoring his uh uh uh uhs when he isn’t with a script or in front of a teleprompter. The boy is in way over his head.

You aren’t listening to What he’s really saying. You only care How he says it.

Unfriggin real. . .

Cause they’re not stupid. They get to play it both ways this way. If no Republican votes for it, and it succeeds, they get to tar the GOP with it. If it does badly, they still get to tar the GOP as being unwilling to work on something to help the economy.

If it goes badly, the GOP will have been right. If the Dems are so confident in this bill, I don’t see why they can’t abide a second opinion.

Yeah, just like all the polls showing Palin is a polarizing figure. Conservatives love her. Everyone else must, too.

There are certain people on the right — her and Rush, first and foremost — who simply can’t be criticized, even with facts. If the facts are bad, the facts must be wrong. The numbers must be meaningless.

Allahpundit on January 30, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Allah…I haven’t read the thread, and I’m sure someone has made my points, but I feel I must make them if for no other reason than for emphasis.

The Democracy Corps survey is Carville’s outfit, the survey was made November 4 – 5, and McCain is the one who appears to make us feel all warm and fuzzy.

In short, I don’t believe any of it, especially the McCain part, one bit. In fact, any survey that would conclude that McCain is our favorite is suspect, to say the least.

The God of Islam is the same God worshipped by Christians and Jews, but with different prophets and a different tradition.
This is just a drop in your torrent of stupid. I’m not really interested in taking time to rebut it all, just the most offensive part.
Constantine on January 30, 2009 at 8:56 PM

So “Just. Wow.” Is your idea of a rebuttal then? Pure genius. You’re a regular theologian, aren’t you?

The gods of those two traditions have some overlapping characteristics (all of which were stolen by Muslims from the Jews and, to a lesser extent, Christians), but they are not the same. Just one example of many, the Christian god wants you to love Him (among other things), whereas the Muslim god wants you to obey him and that’s that. If we were talking about two human beings, we’d never say that someone who wants you to love him and someone who wants you to obey him are the same kind of person. Again, you don’t have the slightest clue what you’re talking about.

Try a Wittgensteinian experiment and imagine a Martian coming down to Earth and reading the Koran, then reading the Bible. Do you think that Martian, if asked, would say they were about the same god (assuming the concept of god had been explained to the Martian)? I didn’t think so. No more than a Martian reading a myth about Ares and a myth about Hephaestus would say they are the same god. Just because some Muslim tells you they’re the same god to try and give their political cult a veneer of respectability among decent people doesn’t mean you have to take it at face value, you know.

You should stop now before you lower my opinion of leftists’ intelligence even further. You haven’t rebutted a single thing I’ve said, despite what appear to be your best efforts and I’m not even trying very hard over here to rebut you, it’s just coming naturally.

He doesn’t really seem to realize that terms like “Alinsky-ed” have little to no resonance outside the 20 million or so zombies that listen to him every day.

crr6 on January 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM

crrr6: Do you think that SoS Hillary Clinton knows what Rush means by being “Alinsky-ed” ? And is she a zombie too?

I’ll give you leftists one thing, you’re just as tenacious as Muslims in your willingness to remain ignorant slaves to some imaginary god, Allah for them…”
venividivici on January 30, 2009 at 7:08 PM

The God of Islam is the same God worshipped by Christians and Jews, but with different prophets and a different tradition.

This is just a drop in your torrent of stupid. I’m not really interested in taking time to rebut it all, just the most offensive part.

Matt Helm on January 30, 2009 at 7:18 PM

I remember the Reagan years pretty well, too. He could have done wonders with the Gingrich-led Congress of the mid-90′s instead of that Dan Rostenkowski/Tip O’Neill hog-fest.

The conservative idea of “distributed power” does seem the opposite of the centralizing, “enlightened despot”, tendencies of leftists. Centralization was a reasonable policy in the era of mass markets, but in the age of micro markets and mass customization, centralization is yesterday’s news. The GOP could also take that more to heart.

Yeah, I know you hate that Obama speaks well, but most of us enjoy having a president that doesn’t trip all over himself mentally and linguistically.

Constantine on January 30, 2009 at 5:43 PM

That’s the problem. Morons like you are more concerned with how well he speaks than you are over what he actually says, and worse, does.

Meanwhile, I bet you’re a used-car salesman’s wet dream: “Sir, you talk so well, how can I not pay you $4,000 more than the car is worth…and throw in the environmental protection package too. $400 bucks for a wax job is a steal. And make it fast, the vacuum cleaner salesmen is coming by today, and he needs just one more sale to win a trip to the Bahamas.”

Moron, lol…..

My point being this is not the 1970’s.

I know, it’s actually a less propitious time to pursue Keynesian stimulus because we’re further into debt than in the 70′s. Thank you for pointing out that Obama’s actually failed to learn two, not just one, lesson from the 70′s.

As far as the tax cut math, what you don’t seem to understand is 1) you’re not going to stimulate growth by giving tax cuts to people who don’t need it, and 2) wealth is not created solely by those who have it.

This is just raw stupidity. First of all, who are YOU to decide how much money I need? Seriously, of all the nerve. Do I tell you how much stupid crap you have to spew on Hot Air? No, you spew as much as feels right to your little pea brain.

Secondly, there are these things called “markets” that connect people with ideas and people with capital. You should check them out. They do all of that magical stuff you talk about like creating wealth, only cheaper and more efficiently than applying for a grant from the Bureau of Entrepreneurial Political Economy at the Department of Labor Region Seven Headquarters.

You may have come up with a great idea for a product and done well in the marketplace, but you didn’t do it alone. You’d be nowhere without employees, utilities, an infrastructure and of course, customers. The current tax system recognizes this, but of course when the money flows in the opposite direction it goes to those who need it least.

The “need” for money again. Have you ever heard of something called the “bequest motive”? Did you ever stop to think, gee, maybe some of those rich people want to give their money to their own kin, rather than to some stranger (let’s call him “Constantine”) who just happens to share a geo-political landmass with them? Secondly, whereas you seem to think rich people live like Scrooge McDuck, hoarding their money in vaults in the backyard so they can take baths in it and toss their little nephews around, in actuality they invest it in those things called “markets”, which I already explained above.

And yeah, thank goodness Reagan had a Democratic congress, or we may still be feeling the repercussions of a protracted war (again, sound familiar?) that he so desperately had a hard-on for in Central America, denied him by the legislative branch. Hence the Iran-Contra affair.

Yeah, and now we get to deal with the mess, aka Chavez and the other Latin looney left so beloved by Bill Ayers.

I’ll give you leftists one thing, you’re just as tenacious as Muslims in your willingness to remain ignorant slaves to some imaginary god, Allah for them and the government for you.

Just. Wow.

Constantine on January 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Is that the “Just. Wow.” of, hey this guy’s got me pegged and he doesn’t even know me or the “Just. Wow.” of, damn, I got no comeback. I guess it would be too hopeful of me for it to be the “Just. Wow.” of, this guy’s right, I’m gonna stop being an ignoramus.

Don’t really care anyway.

Run along and go worship Obama now little boy. I think I hear the muezzin. Make sure you bend over real nice for him.

Carville doesn’t have much dog left in skewing numbers anymore. He’s become a fairly respectable political analyst.

MadisonConservative on January 30, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Carville is on a conference call with the White House and the major networks and outlets every morning helping craft a message. This will be four years of the campaign, and we have all observed how Obama works.

You may have come up with a great idea for a product and done well in the marketplace, but you didn’t do it alone. You’d be nowhere without employees, utilities, an infrastructure and of course, customers. Constantine on January 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

And if my taxes are so high, the minimum wage is so high, and regulations are such that it makes it too expensive for me to run my business, then I’m closing shop, laying off what employees I’m still able to afford, taking what money I do have, and I’m moving to another place or country where I can do business. Suspend capital gains for a year, cut the corporate tax rate to about 15% or so–which puts it about on par with the rest of the world–including your socialist paradises, then watch our economy pick back up again.

Or…you can bloat the budget with useless social programs, print more money and even more money, watch inflation go up into double digits as unemployment also goes into double digits and you’ll have the socialist paradise you’ve always wanted–congratulations–me–I’ll take true freedom any day.

Stagflation was pretty much a late ’70′s thing…oh my, that was the Carter years, who knew…

Stagflation occurred in the era before Reagan became President and showed that, in fact, contrary to Keynesian theory, you could have high inflation and high unemployment. Obama’s plan is straight out of those times, so in fact his is the regressive philosophy.

My point being this is not the 1970′s. As far as the tax cut math, what you don’t seem to understand is 1) you’re not going to stimulate growth by giving tax cuts to people who don’t need it, and 2) wealth is not created solely by those who have it. You may have come up with a great idea for a product and done well in the marketplace, but you didn’t do it alone. You’d be nowhere without employees, utilities, an infrastructure and of course, customers. The current tax system recognizes this, but of course when the money flows in the opposite direction it goes to those who need it least.

And yeah, thank goodness Reagan had a Democratic congress, or we may still be feeling the repercussions of a protracted war (again, sound familiar?) that he so desperately had a hard-on for in Central America, denied him by the legislative branch. Hence the Iran-Contra affair.

I’ll give you leftists one thing, you’re just as tenacious as Muslims in your willingness to remain ignorant slaves to some imaginary god, Allah for them and the government for you.

Just. Wow.