Video: “We Are Republican”

posted at 3:15 pm on January 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

New from Justin Germany, former online video guru for Bush/Cheney and McCain/Palin. It’s as slick as the rest of his work and fully representative of the GOP mindset these days insofar as it’s consumed with personality: Lots of Reagan, lots of big-tent racial diversity, not much beyond small government and lower taxes on the policy front. See also Mitch McConnell, chewing out the RNC at its annual meeting in D.C. today: “We should avoid the false choice of being a party of moderates or conservatives. America is diverse. The two major parties should be too.” As well done as this is, it speaks volumes that the GOP identity crisis is in such a state that it’s necessary.

Exit question: Did I miss it or, aside from the single mention of “family,” is there absolutely nothing here about social values?

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aside from the single mention of “family,” is there absolutely nothing here about social values?

Conservatism is by definition supporting the values of our founders, such as the “right to life”.

jgapinoy on January 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM

“We should avoid the false choice of being a party of moderates or conservatives.”

Leadership!

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM

That quote you have from McConnell appears to contradict other things he said.

This I agree with,

“As Republicans, we know that common-sense conservative principles aren’t regional. But I think we have to admit that our sales job has been. And in my view, that needs to change.”

However, his other remarks aren’t very clarifying to me as to what he really thinks.

INC on January 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM

the single mention of “family”

It’s divisive and controversial.

Hello, this is 2009.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:21 PM

I wish Sessions, DeMint, et al.was running the show.

INC on January 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

I stopped a 3:42. Haven’t heard anything concrete about principles yet. Continuing….

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

its missing Zo…..oh and Don King

jp on January 29, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Was there NOBODY under twenty-five they could talk to? Thirty even!? Frustrating!!!

fiscallyconservative on January 29, 2009 at 3:23 PM

the ad is most telling of the racial Demographic problem the GOP has

jp on January 29, 2009 at 3:24 PM

“McConnell warns of impending abyss for GOP”

The electoral writing is on the wall.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Okay, finished. It was okay but not very exciting.

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM

IMO, it sounds like all these folks are trying to justify their party – as if it were neeeded. Given the historical record, I would think no justification is necessary, and in fact the opposite is true. Let’s ask liberals to justify their wasting of money and lives by misguided policies instead.

Vashta.Nerada on January 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

the ad is most telling of the racial Demographic problem the GOP has

jp on January 29, 2009 at 3:24 PM

It’s a false problem.

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Did they really have to put a shotgun in Sean’s hands? Honestly; that’s not a statement of values, its just a stereotype.

commenter on January 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

“We should avoid the false choice of being a party of moderates or conservatives. America is diverse. The two major parties should be too.”

The conservative movement is diverse, that’s why it’s in trouble… the progressive movement is diverse but they’ve been able to integrate everything under “pragmatism”…

The only way out is for the Republican party to quit being corporate shills and start being the party of individual empowerment and small government egalitarianism…

ninjapirate on January 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM

the single mention of “family”

It’s divisive and controversial.

Hello, this is 2009.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Only divisive to Dems and liberals who thrive on the destruction of the family. Planned Parenthood is a perfect example.

Practically ALL of our social problems in this country are traced right back to the disintigration of the family. Strengthen families and we can reduce the number of instances of social problems.

Sapwolf on January 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM

The conservative movement is diverse, that’s why it’s in trouble… the progressive movement is diverse but they’ve been able to integrate everything under “pragmatism”…

Diverse in what manner?

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 3:29 PM

the single mention of “family”

It’s divisive and controversial.

Hello, this is 2009.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:21 PM

What’s wrong with being divisive and controversial? I don’t want to agree and unite with everyone. That’s what the problem is with a certain president right now.

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Not only have we allowed our brand to be tarnished, but our leaders have had a major hand in the tarnishing. We have a proud history, from Lincoln to Teddy Roosevelt to Eisenhower to Reagan.

Our leaders have lead the charge against slavery and in favor of true equality, yet we’re thought of by many as the racist party.

amerpundit on January 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM

The ad is appropriate and I see nothing in it that says we must yield to a socialist regime attempting to rape our treasury dilute our traditional values. Yes, we must be inclusive but there’s no requirement for us to give up and be stupid.

rplat on January 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Exit question: Did I miss it or, aside from the single mention of “family,” is there absolutely nothing here about social values?

Good. What kind of sick twisted hypocritical nut jobs demand both small government, low taxes and individual liberty, but also want their political party to impose through legislation their social values onto others who do not necessarily share those values? It. Doesn’t. Make. Sense. (and it is killing the party)

tommylotto on January 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Conservatism is by definition supporting the values of our founders, such as the “right to life”.

jgapinoy on January 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM

I’d like to see that definition….got a link?

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Not only have we allowed our brand to be tarnished, but our leaders have had a major hand in the tarnishing. We have a proud history, from Lincoln to Teddy Roosevelt to Eisenhower to Reagan.

Our leaders have lead the charge against slavery and in favor of true equality, yet we’re thought of by many as the racist party.

amerpundit on January 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Jeez, we need a concerted and effective branding campaign!

J.J. Sefton on January 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM

This was very boring. It’s not going to resonate with anyone under the age of 40.

gatorgirl on January 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM

What’s wrong with being divisive and controversial? I don’t want to agree and unite with everyone. That’s what the problem is with a certain president right now.

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at

I was being facetious.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM

It’s not going to resonate with anyone under the age of 40.

gatorgirl on January 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Now that’s republican.

Heh.

lorien1973 on January 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Jeez, we need a concerted and effective branding campaign!

J.J. Sefton on January 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM

It’ll take a lot more than a new shiny sticker to sell the stinky GOP corpse again.

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Sapwolf on January 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Absolutely.

Just yesterday I read at Big Hollywood, that while doing research for the movie, Within These Walls, Robert Avrech found while talking with women prisoners:

Almost every inmate I met grew up in a house without a father. This was the unifying theme, above all else.

He also says:

Later in this series, the warden talks to me about the drastic change in the types of crimes women in America now commit and the horrifying violence that is all too common in what she labeled, “post women’s lib America.”

Scroll down as these remarks are down in the comments. This is a series. He has part I and II up. More to come.

INC on January 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM

“Lots of Reagan…….”

………. enough said, we don’t have to reinvent the wheel.

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM

“Less taxes, more guns” should be the whole of the Republican platform.

justfinethanks on January 29, 2009 at 3:39 PM

GOP should mean FREEDOM!!!….. Freedom from Gov tyranny… from Harry Reid… From Nancy… from over taxation… from to many laws…

I want a prez that says he will veto any spending bill over 25 pgs long… so Joe Blow can… “easily”.. download, read,& analyze, & react to it…

A Pres that will stand up to the Senate & veto any bill with earmarks….

A Pres that will….”enforce”… current emigration laws… & challenge congress to change the laws if they yelp…

etc… etc… etc…

Ain’t going to happen,… though….

RaisinsofWrath on January 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM

What a waste of time. About as exciting as John Boehner. We are boring the planet to tears. We are doomed.

jay12 on January 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Republicans have to do a better sales job. They have the message, just get new messengers. The GOP has to start getting the younger high educated people to join the party, and get younger candidates. Show people that the way to a more prosperous and free future is through free minds, free markets, and the ability to make your own decisions….

therightwinger on January 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Nothing in there about about being in the middle … that’s a good sign, maybe the Pubs learned their lesson?

Con first.

Pub second.

Get it?

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM

It. Doesn’t. Make. Sense.
tommylotto on January 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM

You don’t understand it.

There is a distinction.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Good. What kind of sick twisted hypocritical nut jobs demand both small government, low taxes and individual liberty, but also want their political party to impose through legislation their social values onto others who do not necessarily share those values? It. Doesn’t. Make. Sense. (and it is killing the party)

tommylotto on January 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Rare moment. We’re in total agreement.

MadisonConservative on January 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM

well, that was worthless.

eh on January 29, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Our leaders have lead the charge against slavery and in favor of true equality, yet we’re thought of by many as the racist party. – Amer

Yet another 10 points for the lefty teachers unions. Their historical revisionism stradegy has worked.

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 3:46 PM

At least McConnell says we shouldn’t back off our conservative values. He says, rightly, that we need a better sell on our views, not new views. Agree. But where were those views in the last eight years? Republicans have sewn and are now reaping.

Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Social conservatives are the most visible target. But, the Rockefeller center of the party is not too comfortable with the fiscal conservatives either. They can have an empty shell of a party and call it diverse.

promachus on January 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM

“Lots of Reagan…….”

………. enough said, we don’t have to reinvent the wheel.

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Actually, we may not need to reinvent the wheel but we definitely need a BIG dose of Republican 2.0. While I respect and admire Reagan just as much as any Republican, it really is starting to sound like a broken record. We know what he stood for, why can’t we internalize his message and get others to understand it instead of just referring to him like some mythical creature that we are on life’s mission to find once again.

Trust me, to most people under the age of 40, Reagan is just some old guy that their parents voted for. They have no idea of what he believed in.

Republican 2.0 is the key to success.

gatorgirl on January 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I’ve decided to support Pittsburg in the Superbowl. There are many reasons why I made this choice. The Steelers represent American values and hard work. The Phoenix (called Arizona because there are not enough fans to support a team in Phoenix) Cardinals represent non working retirees and snowbirds escaping from the hard northern winters. It was a tough choice. The hard work over relaxation and pleasue. The choice is never easy. To choose the latter I would need to be out of my mind and really lazy. The Steelers represent everything the republicans stand for. hard work and strict values. May the Steeler offense decimate the Cardnal defense. May the Steeler defense remember the days of the steel curtain and hold the Cardinals to 0 points. Prediction Steelers 24 Redbirds 0.

kanda on January 29, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Nice video. What’s its point?

spmat on January 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Anyone else find humor in the fact that the video is devoid of what it demands?

spmat on January 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM

OT:

Activist Groups Pressure Republican Senators to Back Stimulus

MoveOn.org, along with the Service Employees International Union and other groups, are running ads pressuring Republican senators to support President Obama’s stimulus plan.

FOXNews.com

Thursday, January 29, 2009

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at

I was being facetious.

artist on January 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Whew! You had me worried. :)

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Exit question: Did I miss it or, aside from the single mention of “family,” is there absolutely nothing here about social values?

Should there be?

Jim Treacher on January 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Did they really have to put a shotgun in Sean’s hands? – Commenter

Perhaps he put that gun there himself? Perhaps he needs that rifle to defend his family from the cross burning Klanocrats, like Condi’s dad had to do? Perhaps he needs that weapon to defend himself from all the anti-military peace-ocrats who vandalize his home when they find out he enlisted in the Military after 9/11?

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM

This was a boring re-tread.

Focus on P.J. O’Rourke’s astute observation that no woman has ever fantasized of being tied up and ravaged by a liberal.

Run with that.

Stop being stuffy. To be a young conservative is heroic. Saving innocent life. Building things. Prosperity. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Liberating the oppressed. Advancing freedom. Punishing bad guys. This is the muscular stuff of film heroes. I’ll never apologize for my revolutionary ideology.

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM

The Senate GOP leader told members of the Republican National Committee (RNC) that the party must return to its core message — smaller government and lower taxes — while seeking to broaden its base with a more diversified voting bloc.

If the republican party comes out talking small government and lower taxes then it is going to die… GTFO… this party is screwed until the frum and douthat types take over…

ninjapirate on January 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Let’s make this the GNP–the Grand New Party–bring on Bobby and Sarah and Jim and Eric! (Jindal, Palin, DeMint and Cantor)!

Explain to the people CLEARLY what you stand for and what you want to do, and they’ll vote for you. We like free markets, free trade, low taxes, limited government, using our own resources, defending our country, and saving babies and families. Why is that so hard to say? Somebody should go over Reagan’s speeches, let a young Republican say the same things, and we’ll start winning elections!

Steve Z on January 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Did I miss it or, aside from the single mention of “family,” is there absolutely nothing here about social values?

What’s wrong with that?

DaveO on January 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM

absolutely nothing here about social values?

Well they all had jobs, and apparently not working for the Government…that pretty much states their social values.

right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM

The Phoenix (called Arizona because there are not enough fans to support a team in Phoenix) Cardinals represent non working retirees and snowbirds escaping from the hard northern winters. It was a tough choice.

One thing I had forgotten: Arizona was Pat Tillman’s team. They have a statue of him at their home stadium.

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM

To be a young conservative is heroic … Liberating the oppressed. Advancing freedom. – John

Sadly, too many of our yutes have been brainwashed into thinking that America, Western Civ and Freedom ARE the oppressors. But when I meet young Soldiers and Marines on my plane and they tell me how they joined up to help keep America free, man my heart pounds!

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM

You said it, Tony. Those are heroes. And I’m grateful for them.

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM

“the progressive movement is diverse” ninjapirate on January 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM

In what sense?

I’ve yet to read a Progressive state in any fashion that they believe the individual should be left free to pursue his/her life and values as they see fit, provided they violate no one’s rights. They are uniformly in favor of collectivism and state power. Where’s the diversity?

JDPerren on January 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Arizona was Pat Tillman’s team. – Baldi

Yeah, I had some of their Cheerleaders on my plane one time, they were coming back from Afghanistan, where they were entertaining the Troops. One of them gave me her phone number just kidding, she gave me a #40 pin and said “Never forget Pat Tillman.”

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Good. What kind of sick twisted hypocritical nut jobs demand both small government, low taxes and individual liberty, but also want their political party to impose through legislation their social values onto others who do not necessarily share those values? It. Doesn’t. Make. Sense. (and it is killing the party)

tommylotto on January 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM

I must be blind. I simply don’t perceive the same reality as you. What I see are multiple religious death cults that want to impose their crackpot unscientific and superstitious social and religious values onto others who most DEFINITELY DO NOT share their views. The first group, viz. the Muslims, accomplish this through their terrorism, infiltration, and prolific birth rates. The second group, viz. the Liberals, accomplish their aims through their brainwashing via academia and the MSM, and through activist judges in our court systems that legislate from the bench and completely circumvent the legislative process.

My collie says:

Social conservatives aren’t trying to impose their will on anyone through the legislative or executive branches of government. They’re simple trying to block the attempts of the progressives to trash the Constitution of the United States — that’s all.

CyberCipher on January 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Roosevelt, Goldwater, Reagan — so nice to see them and hear their words — very nostalgic. Now, are we thinking of opening a museum or are we talking about a living, breathing party? I didn’t see Lincoln, so I suppose we are okay with allowing the Democrats to rebrand him as one of their own, eh? During the campaign it seemed as if McCain was content to allow Obama to move to his right on issue after issue, while remaining virtually silent on abortion, and having no compelling message on the economy at all. Oboma was the wolf who was able to cloak himself in tax-cut/balanced budget wool, while plotting to break the bank with trillions of dollars of new deficit pork spending. The Republican’s biggest challenge is to articulate their values and to defend the very concept of a REPUBLIC! I didn’t really get that from this message — they didn’t just “lose their way” they lost their ability to speak — I believe that’s called dumb!

littleguy on January 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM

How can we get that McConnell out of that position? We needed him to get re-elected last fall, but he’s a whimp as the Leader of the Senate. He’s more worried about those two failures in Maine – Olympia Snow and Collins. People in Kentucky – you need to set that Senator of yours straight.

suzyk on January 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM

There’s nothing progressive about Progressivism. It’s an Orwellian fake-out, like the Fairness Doctrine. Progressivism is where the communists are hiding out after their stunning failure when the Soviet Union collapsed.

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Social conservatives are the most visible target. But, the Rockefeller center of the party is not too comfortable with the fiscal conservatives either. They can have an empty shell of a party and call it diverse.

promachus on January 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I’ve noticed that. I’m beginning to wonder if targeting social conservatives isn’t done to draw attention away from the fact that they’re not too hot on the fis cons either.

INC on January 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM

If the republican party comes out talking small government and lower taxes then it is going to die

Then American freedom will die. Better to go down firing than join the enemy simply to be on the popular side. Give up your principles and you are as good as dead.

JDPerren on January 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM

CyberCipher on January 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Give that collie a treat and a pat on the head!

INC on January 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM

McConnell is more astute than I politically but I disagree Dems are diverse. They are all very far LEFT. They cannot allow any one with divergent views. They are an organization of diverse GROUPS all with the same goals. What’s best for ME & MY group not my country. Tell me the difference between Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, Conyers, Dodd except skin color.

Herb on January 29, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Exit question: Did I miss it or, aside from the single mention of “family,” is there absolutely nothing here about social values?

You’re kidding, right?

Ugly on January 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM

This is for the “how obama got elected” folks? Because I don’t need a message repeated over and over again. What is the soundbyte that is supposed to be remembered?

This is too long, and if I was on this video, I would be loudly declaring, why haven’t the people who caused this manufactured financial crisis, we are in not being brought in front of U.S. – The American People to Account?

The Republicans have no idea how angry the American Public is even after John McCain refused to get the message and lost…they just don’t GET IT!

Dr Evil on January 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I’d like to see that definition….got a link?

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I’d like to see the converse. Nobody says they are the supporters of injecting scalding saline solution into forming babies with brains and limbs and eyes and a heartbeat and ability to feel pain. Nobody says they are for the sissors they inject into a half delivered child and the vacume with sucks out the brain while the child just goes freaking LIMP in the doctor’s hands while the mother is still physically CARRYING it’s head inside her. Yeah. No one says they are for the rape of the cervix when the dilation begins and cutting away ensues and body parts (of WHAT?) has to be counted to make sure THEY GOT ALL THE BABY OUT THAT THEY JUST EXECUTED. But they damn well want the choice to do all that stuff.

I sure wish you complicit, cowardly excuses for compassionate people would be INTELLECTUALLY HONEST and SAY YOU WANT THE RIGHT TO DO THE ABOVE. Just say you want to have the right to kill babies. Oh, but…it’s not really, really a baby, right? Convenient.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM

why haven’t the people who caused this manufactured financial crisis we are in, NOT being brought in front of U.S. – The American People to Account?

Dr Evil on January 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM

“We should avoid the false choice of being a party of moderates or conservatives. America is diverse.

Diversity and principles are incompatible? Simply stunning.

cadetwithchips2 on January 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Did any of you even go to rebuildtheparty.com and check out the plan? STop complaining and start making a difference.

Geeeez no wonder we are in ruins.

ihasurnominashun on January 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Just curious, since it always seems the first to come up when social conservatives issues are brought up.

Is abortion the only social issue of any relevance? It seems to be the top one on everyone’s mind.

MadisonConservative on January 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Anyway, I wish they would stop trying to play the liberals’ game…we aren’t GOOD at cult of personality and celebrity. Take a hike.

Give me a black screen, I’ll take those fuzzy letters and put up some quotes and say something about republican myths and who Lincoln was, just cause its infuriating to see them coopt Lincoln…but, other than that, we don’t need to make speeches, we need to say what we are all about and DO IT…enough blabbing. DO IT.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:13 PM

but also want their political party to impose through legislation their social values onto others who do not necessarily share those values? It. Doesn’t. Make. Sense. (

tommylotto

Like forcing people into some crackpot carbon-credit scheme based on flimsy science?
Or limiting their choice of cars to fuel-efficiency standards?
Or redefining marriage to suit their worldview?
Or marginalizing smokers?
Or killing innocent life because it’s inconvenient?
Pot, meet kettle.

It astounds me that the pro-choice movement never mentions the choice the mother had to NOT HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX. They can’t answer that one, so they deflect to cases of incest and rape. Which means they’ve devolved to the party of exterminating rape babies.

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Game, set, match goes to MommyPundit.

My collie says:

They’d better not try that with puppies.

CyberCipher on January 29, 2009 at 4:14 PM

I found that dull, patronizing and offensive in that it felt like they were intentionally ignoring the third leg of conservatism. It was very conspicuous by its absence.

Those of you who argue that lower taxes and guns is the way to go are missing a very important point, and it is the one made by whoever mentioned that this ad wouldn’t resonate with anyone under 40. In my experience, the youth who are Republicans are also very strongly pro-life. Did you see the WTF!? post earlier today? Students for Life did that. Young people. I don’t see a lot of Students for Guns groups or even Students for keeping my own money groups, but hey, I’m a social conservative above all including the other two legs of conservatism (though I claim them as well), so maybe I’m not paying enough attention to the rest.

Let me know when the next March for Guns is, so I can see the busloads of college and high school kids who show up.

pannw on January 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Just curious, since it always seems the first to come up when social conservatives issues are brought up.

Is abortion the only social issue of any relevance? It seems to be the top one on everyone’s mind.

MadisonConservative on January 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Nah. Just get pissed off when people try to put that aside, like there haven’t been gains in the area…or as if these children needed to be forgotten any more than they are, for God’s sake. Could there be anything MORE important than genocide? I mean, seriously.

But, sure, if you want more social con stuff, I’d say the liberal activist courts have got to be mentioned. This is tyranny. And the reign of homosexuals parading (no pun) as some marginalized class seeking ONLY to usurp 1000s of years of civilization-supporting marriage between a man and a woman and the constant gender confusion and horrific divorce rates within even the church…yeah…there is a lot to be concerned about.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM

It astounds me that the pro-choice movement never mentions the choice the mother had to NOT HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX. They can’t answer that one, so they deflect to cases of incest and rape. Which means they’ve devolved to the party of exterminating rape babies.

John the Libertarian on January 29, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I was raped and conceived my first born. He just came walking in the room to ask me about Jupiter and if I’d draw a crab nebula. He is four.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM

I found that dull, patronizing and offensive in that it felt like they were intentionally ignoring the third leg of conservatism. It was very conspicuous by its absence.

Oh, I totally agree. They INCLUDED the NRA but not anything like Life or traditional marriage. Funny, that.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM

I’m a PROUD Conservative…what’s a Republican?

hoi polloi on January 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM

I found that dull, patronizing and offensive in that it felt like they were intentionally ignoring the third leg of conservatism. It was very conspicuous by its absence.

Those of you who argue that lower taxes and guns is the way to go are missing a very important point, and it is the one made by whoever mentioned that this ad wouldn’t resonate with anyone under 40. In my experience, the youth who are Republicans are also very strongly pro-life. Did you see the WTF!? post earlier today? Students for Life did that. Young people. I don’t see a lot of Students for Guns groups or even Students for keeping my own money groups, but hey, I’m a social conservative above all including the other two legs of conservatism (though I claim them as well), so maybe I’m not paying enough attention to the rest.

Let me know when the next March for Guns is, so I can see the busloads of college and high school kids who show up.

I’m 23 years old and do not care about the abortion or gay marriage issues. I don’t see how you can be the party of individual liberty and freedom, and still dictate what people do on these issues. You should at least recognize that there’s room for people with both views.

therightwinger on January 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I was raped and conceived my first born. He just came walking in the room to ask me about Jupiter and if I’d draw a crab nebula. He is four.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM

First….God bless you.

Second…..I hope he never shows up in my microbiology class!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 29, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Oh, I totally agree. They INCLUDED the NRA but not anything like Life or traditional marriage. Funny, that.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Since “choice” people bow down to Roe, perhaps they should read Roe to see where the line was actually drawn in 1974. We are definitely into throwing the baby out with the bath water these days.

littleguy on January 29, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Oh, but…it’s not really, really a baby, right? Convenient.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Of course they are not. Let me explain how it works:
At the moment of birth (regardless of gestation age) the mass of tissue, by some (yet unexplained by science) miracle, instantaneously transforms itself into a human infant. Right in front of those assisting in the birth, in a fraction of a second, the mass of tissue develops a nervous system and all the characteristics and faculties that make tissue a human being. I know this doesn’t quite jibe with many other scientifically facts, but we are pretty sure that is the way it works. In any case, it is better not to bother yourself with any of these facts, they are irrelevant when it comes to the right to privacy.

neuquenguy on January 29, 2009 at 4:28 PM

From rebuildtheparty.com: Undoing the damage to our party’s brand among America’s youth will take more than new slogans and hip spokespeople.

Yeah, it’ll take decades of Cons getting hired as teachers, pretending to be Libs just to get the job, then several more decades of undoing all the damage the teacher’s unions have done.

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Is abortion the only social issue of any relevance? It seems to be the top one on everyone’s mind.

MadisonConservative on January 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Although I am inclined to agree with MommyPundit on the issue of gay marriage, don’t for a minute think that ALL the social issues have to do with sex and reproduction. There are other family issues as well. Collie, tell ‘em about the one that really rubs me the wrong way.

My collie says:

Here in the U.S., property taxes are used to support the public school system. There are some of us that would NEVER even consider subjecting our children to SUCH a FAILED travesty of an educational system. Thus, school vouchers are an important social issue that is frequently overlooked.

In fact, some of us on the more extreme fringes believe that there should be NO SUCH THING as a public school. ALL schools should be private.

CyberCipher on January 29, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Mommy … oh my god, I’m so sorry … and at the same time, congrats on raising what will someday be a fine young man, a patriot and a real American.

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Eh. The script is kinda sorta okay, but it needs a new casting director. The only one who had any real appeal to me was the elderly Vietnamese guy.

And as much as I support the 2nd Amendment and NRA, do they have to show the guy with a gun? It would be one thing to have an explicitly military context, or to show him outside hunting, but who sits in their living room in front of their fireplace patting their gun like it’s a pet?

Anyhoo, when it comes to “diverse” voices, I’d rather hear from people like Niger Innis, Shelby Steele, Thomas Sowell, Baldilocks, or our favorite comedian.

Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 4:33 PM

I’m 23 years old and do not care about the abortion or gay marriage issues. I don’t see how you can be the party of individual liberty and freedom, and still dictate what people do on these issues. You should at least recognize that there’s room for people with both views.

therightwinger on January 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Dude, that’s the point isn’t it? If partial birth abortion doesn’t leave you cold, would leaving grandma alone in a storage room, unnoticed, to take her last breath rather than spend a few more dollars to help her breathe bother you? My guess is that there are more folks who are horrified with both of those scenarios than not, but that may be the future if we can’t find common ground.

littleguy on January 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM

therightwinger on January 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Ditto. I’m 24 and the ideas of fiscal responsibility, limited government and individual freedom are the main draw to this party. Dogmatic views on gay-marriage and (to a lesser extent) abortion don’t seem to jibe with individual freedom and I think that’s the case for a lot of people our age.
Call us RINOs or whatever you want, but there should be room for us at the table. that is unless you want us to go elsewhere.

Trent1289 on January 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM

God love you.

baldilocks on January 29, 2009 at 4:39 PM

I’m 23 years old and do not care about the abortion or gay marriage issues. I don’t see how you can be the party of individual liberty and freedom, and still dictate what people do on these issues. You should at least recognize that there’s room for people with both views.

therightwinger on January 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I remember feeling the same at your age (not diminishing your credibility, just saying that was around the time that real, real life kicked in and I saw things for what it is.)

Well, try this out. Would it be ok for me to put some toxic, burning substance into a syringe and inject it in my four year old…or my two year old…until they died from burns? What about if I cut them with knives and vacumed them up and thne, to make sure I got it all, laid out their body parts to examine? What if I took some sharp object and cut into the base of their skulls and sucked out their brains?

What if I did this to my puppy?

To a cat?

What if I did this to a rat?

Or how about this? Is the human body made uniquely for procreation? I mean, sure, there are lots of pleasurable things it is capable of, but, honestly, have you checked out how AMAZING reproduction is??? I mean, it’s almost like it’s a DESIGN!!! Wow. Simple biology, right? What would be a corruption of this? What would run the exact OPPOSITE of this design?

When this abnormal behavior is exalted as normal and FORCED upon the majority, you have tyranny. It should be your business when dishonesty and lies are running around as if true and truth is stumbling in the streets. It IS your issue.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Ditto. I’m 24 and the ideas of fiscal responsibility, limited government and individual freedom are the main draw to this party. Dogmatic views on gay-marriage and (to a lesser extent) abortion don’t seem to jibe with individual freedom and I think that’s the case for a lot of people our age.
Call us RINOs or whatever you want, but there should be room for us at the table. that is unless you want us to go elsewhere.

Trent1289 on January 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Again, here’s the point: if you value smaller government and individual freedom, you may want to condider making room at the table for folks who DO care more about life than taxes. You don’t have to wave that flag, but they aren’t bothering you sitting in their homes minding their own business and then coming out once in a while to vote for YOUR candidate, right?

littleguy on January 29, 2009 at 4:41 PM

I’m 23 years old and do not care about the abortion or gay marriage issues. I don’t see how you can be the party of individual liberty and freedom, and still dictate what people do on these issues. You should at least recognize that there’s room for people with both views.

therightwinger on January 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Abortion and gay marriage are counter to liberty. Laws that were in place in order to create civil order and protect society from the hazards of infanticide and trying to substitute same sex attraction for marriage have nothing to do with dictating as they do for survival. Neither of these ideas of social engineering are new and have been rejected since people started etching laws in stone somewhere in the Near East. If Adam was ghey or Eve aborted her kids to keep her figure, we would not be having this conversation.

Hening on January 29, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Thanks, you all, for your kindness. I would say this is a personal issue, but, I don’t think gas chambers and death clinics are a personal issue to anyone. Know what I mean? I get really, really fired up when supposed “conservatives” go floppy on me on this issue. It isn’t a matter of “preference.” It is a matter of lying to yourself or having steel ones to be able to tell the truth when it ISN’T POPULAR. For goodness sake…tell the truth. It isn’t ok. If that makes sense…we all know what it is.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:42 PM

I thought the rifle display/NRA bit, in context, was a tad cliche and over the top.

The Ugly American on January 29, 2009 at 4:44 PM

I just realized one thing I do like about that video:

No mention of global warming or climate change! Hopefully the era of pandering to the envirowackos (and Useful Idiots of all stripes) is over.

Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 4:44 PM

If Adam was ghey

alright…I have been here for too long and do not care who ridicules me…I need to know…

WHERE DID teh ghey come from?????? I laugh every time I see it but I don’t know where it originates! Educate me, please.

Btw, just turned a horrific 31 this month and all this talk about 20-somethings is making this mommy feel OLD.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:45 PM

I thought the rifle display/NRA bit, in context, was a tad cliche and over the top.

The Ugly American on January 29, 2009 at 4:44 PM

I did too…but it also kind of got me excited. In a weird way…

heh.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 4:46 PM

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