Obama administration rebuked on Gitmo delays

posted at 1:45 pm on January 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama wanted all proceedings for military tribunals halted for 120 days in order to determine how to proceed with the adjudication of the remaining detainees at Guantanamo Bay.  In a serious blow to those plans, a Gitmo military judge rejected the delay and instructed the government to proceed with its case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.  Obama will either have to comply or release Nashiri:

A military judge in Guantanamo Bay has denied the Obama administration’s request to delay proceedings for 120 days in the case of a detainee accused of planning the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole warship, an al-Qaeda strike that killed 17 service members and injured 50 others.

The decision throws into some disarray the administration’s plan to buy time as it reviews individual detainee cases as part of its plan to close the U.S. military prison at the Guantanamo naval base in Cuba. The Pentagon may now be forced to withdraw the charges against Abd al Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi citizen of Yemeni descent. …

But Judge James Pohl, an Army colonel, said he found the government’s reasoning “unpersuasive.”

“The Commission is unaware of how conducting an arraignment would preclude any option by the administration,” said Pohl in a written opinion, portions of which were read to The Post. “Congress passed the military commissions act, which remains in effect. The Commission is bound by the law as it currently exists, not as it may change in the future.”

Indeed.  Most people conveniently forget that Congress has twice addressed the structure of military tribunals, the last time in a Democrat-run Congress and on a bipartisan basis.  Those laws allow for review by federal courts on appeal and remain in force.  The judges should act on the laws at hand, not rumors of new policy coming down the pike.  If all courts acted on that basis, trials would never take place.

The Obama administration can withdraw charges, but to do so while keeping Nashiri detained will be tantamount to holding him without charge — which is what Democrats disliked about Gitmo in the first place.  They could release him outright, but since Nashiri is one of the masterminds of the attack on the USS Cole, which killed 17 American sailors, it would be political suicide to do so.  Setting the murderer of American service members free would not only send a terrible signal to the terrorist networks, it would also enrage the rank and file in the military.

Obama has a big, big problem on his hands now, and few options other than prosecution in the tribunals he opposes.

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Too bad we couldn’t get some of these military judges on the 9th circuit. Or SCOTUS…

mrsmwp on January 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Lame duck.

BadgerHawk on January 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM

(In the voice of Nelson from the Simpsons)

HAH!!! HAH!!!

Scorched_Earth on January 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM

This is what happens when you elect a President without previous hands-on experience in government.

NeighborhoodCatLady on January 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Obama has a big, big problem on his hands now, and few options other than prosecution in the tribunals he opposes.

He sure does. He has painted himself into a corner, and I betcha he is also alienating ‘unaffiliated voters’ who are probably not too keen to have these terrorists in their backyards or roaming free in a host country where they can come back again another day to wage war on civilization and innocent civilians.

Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM

A military judge in Guantanamo Bay has denied the Obama administration’s request to delay proceedings …

What? You mean the god-king Oberxes must follow the rule of law too? BLASPHEMY!

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM

It would take a competent person years to screw up as much as Obama has in the last 7 days. God help us.

rplat on January 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Wow…. Republic… Rule of Law…

How… refreshing.

Someone needs to remind that Constitutional Scholar Obama that we live in a Republic, where he is President, not King.

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Military Judge Col. James Pohl U.S. Army gets my Defending America Award.

P.S.
Pohl was also the judge that rejected Lynndie England’s guilty plea for the Abu Ghraib abuse trial.

Kaptain Amerika on January 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Stupidest executive order evar.

Why close Gitmo in the first place? The only thing that accomplishes is necessitating the cost and logistical nightmare of moving our misunderstood extremist friends to new digs somewhere else.

Why not simply rename Gitmo to “Unicorn House” or “Misunderstood Muslim Housing Authority”? The end result is the same, but it would only require a new sign outside the facility.

Never got the delay on trial either. Wasn’t that part of the problem that provoked Obambi to close the place?

Stupidest President Messiah evar.

Damiano on January 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM

This is a powerful, Nadal-like, forehand volley down the baseline to Obamas’ weak side (military). Can the O-ministration return it, in play?

BobMbx on January 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM

As Commander in Chief, you would think that Obama could make more than a suggestion. Are military judges under the Judicial Branch and so can stand against the Executive Branch? Or are they part of the military and under the Commander in Chief? Anyway, I am surprised by this stand but I applaud it! And BTW I applaud the Republican rejection of the Generational Theft bill. Stand strong everywhere against socialist tyranny!

Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM

“Congress passed the military commissions act, which remains in effect. The Commission is bound by the law as it currently exists, not as it may change in the future.”

Wow, imagine that, the Rule of Law strikes again. It goes all the way back to the Magna Carta … kinda hard to be a god-king when the Law is blocking you, eh Barack?

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Of course the question that should be asked is why any of the tribunals agreed to a delay, just because obama wanted to change the rules.

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on January 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Obambi is having a bad week.

ctmom on January 29, 2009 at 1:57 PM

See what happens when fascists like Barack Obama try to deny a man due process?

Chuck Schick on January 29, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Why close Gitmo in the first place? – Damiano

Because Bush filled it full of ‘his’ enemies and ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ therefore the prisoners are friends of the Left.

Tony737 on January 29, 2009 at 1:58 PM

“Laws? We don’ need no stinkin’ laws!”

I understand this is engraved on the new Oval Office letterhead.

coldwarrior on January 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I’m sure the same people who gawked at the executive power Bush exerted as president are now saying, “Hey! Obama’s the president! Who the crap is this judge to tell him no?!”

Bill Scrunty on January 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM

As Commander in Chief, you would think that Obama could make more than a suggestion. Are military judges under the Judicial Branch and so can stand against the Executive Branch? Or are they part of the military and under the Commander in Chief? Anyway, I am surprised by this stand but I applaud it! And BTW I applaud the Republican rejection of the Generational Theft bill. Stand strong everywhere against socialist tyranny!

Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Military Judges are bound by the Constitution and the rule of law. Inasmuch as Obama is not a maker of laws, he has neither the authority to change them or break them.

rplat on January 29, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Obama has a big, big problem on his hands now, and few options other than prosecution in the tribunals he opposes.

The rookie is on the job.

Basilsbest on January 29, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Scorched_Earth on January 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Exactly the sound I heard in my head upon reading the story.

Frozen Tex on January 29, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Too bad we couldn’t get some of these military judges on the 9th circuit. Or SCOTUS…

mrsmwp on January 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Or POTUS, for that matter.

Grafted on January 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Isn’t our Dear Leader some sort of constitutional lawyer or sumpin’? I think I read somewhere that it was rumored that he was president or something or some such high-falutin EYE-VEE league school’s lawyers club. Or something.

robblefarian on January 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Constitutional scholar, indeed.

Damiano on January 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Wow. Someone is getting a crash course in The Presidency 101. Unfortunately, this will never translate into honesty about the success of the Bush admin, given restrictions and having to juggle so many factors in one hand. When I see this amateur play house, it reminds me how much better we had it just a month or two ago.

Mommypundit on January 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

The sooner we see Obama stand trail the better.

dmann on January 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

trial…dumbass

dmann on January 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

But HE WON?!?!?!?

/sarc

journeyscarab on January 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM

This is what happens when you elect a President without previous hands-on experience in government.

NeighborhoodCatLady on January 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Or an affirmative action appointed attorney…as a “constitutional expert” he would be able to understand the military commissions act.

right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Obama has a big, big problem on his hands now, and few options other than prosecution in the tribunals he opposes.

Further proof THE ONE doesn’t have a clue how to be a leader or how to govern a nation. In just nine days we are seeing proof positve that Obambi is what most of us knew him to be, an inexperienced empty suit that is not ready to be POTUS! It’s unfortunate that 57% of the baffoons that voted him in didn’t realize prior to the election (or even now for that matter) they voted for a personality that has no practical executive experience other than flowery and hollow rhetoric.

Other than the fervent Obamanites I wonder how many of the 57% that voted for THE ONE are having “buyers remorse” already, and it’s only been 9 days…the scary thing is it’s only going to get worse from here!

God help as all….

Liberty or Death on January 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Col. Pohl’s pimp hand is obviously WAY stronger than Teh One’s.

PW3NED!

Kid from Brooklyn on January 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM

trial…dumbass

dmann on January 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Don’t be so hard on yourself . . . we all knew what you meant.

Cheers.

rplat on January 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Headline: Obama off Balance after being Checked

- The Cat

MirCat on January 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Wow, just WOW!

LMAO, ROFL!

The Messiah is in free-fall 8 days into his Kingdom.

This might not be so bad a four years after all…

Americans might be awakening to this empty suit and his Executive Orders from hell…

Mark Garnett on January 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Are military judges under the Judicial Branch

No. But they must follow US law.

and so can stand against the Executive Branch?

They sure can. The Commander in Chief must follow US law, also. He cannot ignore nor create nor interpret laws.

Or are they part of the military and under the Commander in Chief?

Both. It is analogous to the US Justice Department, where the US Attorney General is required to follow US law, not the policy of the White House. While the POTUS can fire the AG, he can’t order him to violate law. See “Nixon Fires Cox”:

These dramatic developments were announced at the White House at 8:25 p.m. after Cox had refused to accept or comply with the terms of an agreement worked out by the President and the Senate Watergate committee under which summarized material from the White House Watergate tapes would be turned over to Cox and the Senate committee.

In announcing the plan Friday night, the President ordered Cox to make no further effort to obtain tapes or other presidential documents.

Cox responded that he could not comply with the President’s instructions and elaborated on his refusal and vowed to pursue the tape recordings at a televised news conference yesterday.

BobMbx on January 29, 2009 at 2:09 PM

hahah… the judge threw CHANGE back in Obamessiah’s face

The Commission is bound by the law as it currently exists, not as it may change in the future.”

gatorboy on January 29, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Pwn3d again..

Vashta.Nerada on January 29, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Now what will happen in Afghanistan when an entire Taliban village of 10,000 terrorists surrenders?

The unemployment rate for judges, lawyers, and prison workers will hit zero!

stonemeister on January 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM

What is it about Democrats? They get into office and start laying eggs.

Theworldisnotenough on January 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM

c/pwn3d

Kid from Brooklyn on January 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM

I’ve run out of popcorn already.

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM

MirCat on January 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Checked right into the boards!

Kid from Brooklyn on January 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM

I have to admit, I get enjoyment that the military judge but the kibosh down on Obama.

http://www.therightscoop.com

funsutton on January 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Bring back Bush! We had it better than we thought!!!!

DL13 on January 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM

If Bush had made a similar miscalculation, the press would be all over him.

God I hate the media in this country.

WisCon on January 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Robert Gibbs (Obama Press Secretary) is being asked about it now.

“We’ve just learned about the ruling.”

“We’re consulting with the Pentagon and Justice Department on our options.”

“We believe all of the other trials were stayed.”

He says he doesn’t believe the ruling stops them from taking time to evaluate the cases before the detainees are tried.

amerpundit on January 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

I am still interested in finding a Obama urinal cake!

grapeknutz on January 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Isn’t our Dear Leader some sort of constitutional lawyer or sumpin’? I think I read somewhere that it was rumored that he was president or something or some such high-falutin EYE-VEE league school’s lawyers club. Or something.

robblefarian on January 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM

“He then attended Harvard Law School, graduated magna cum laude, and served as the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review”

“He also taught at the University of Chicago Law School as a senior lecturer specializing in constitutional law”

Well, Biden is a lawyer to.

the_nile on January 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Obueller…Obueller? Obueller? Obueller?

Bishop on January 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I am still interested in finding a Obama urinal cake!

grapeknutz on January 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

That’s a ‘hate crime’ lawsuit waiting to happen ;)

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Somewhere Gdub is smiling like the cheshire cat.

Dubn8tr on January 29, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Decision time for the indecisive one. Now we’ll see the real Obama.

docdave on January 29, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Any cartoonists out there…

We need a cartoon of Obama, in a basketball uniform, being body checked into the boards by a hocky player, with “Constitution” as the name on the Jersey…

Caption? “um… uh…. wrong game?”

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Can we get these bastards to resod the Washington Mall?

Chuck Schick on January 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

That Gibbs! He’s all uh uh uh, too!

What is it? Is Obama’s uh-stutter catching?

Alana on January 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

I understand Col. Pohl has some unpaid back taxes.
And went through a very messy divorce.
And was accused of drunk driving 17 years ago.
He spends a lot of money on his “uniforms” too.
And have you seen his haircut?

Sefton on January 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Any cartoonists out there…

We need a cartoon of Obama, in a basketball uniform, being body checked into the boards by a hocky player, with “Constitution” as the name on the Jersey…

Caption? “um… uh…. wrong game?”

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

or… a better caption…

“I was HOPING we could CHANGE the game…”

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Ooo! Perfect caption!

Alana on January 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Another reason we should have been able to see his college transcripts. Let’s see how he did in classes ON constitutional law.

tru2tx on January 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Wow, Obama is looking more and more the fool every day…and they called President Bush stupid.

Pulchritudinous Patriot on January 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

“The decision throws into some disarray the administration’s plan to buy time…”

For some unknown reason, this single line put a smile on my face :)

It truly is the little things in life…

rvastar on January 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Any cartoonists out there…

We need a cartoon of Obama, in a basketball uniform, being body checked into the boards by a hocky player, with “Constitution” as the name on the Jersey…

Caption? “um… uh…. wrong game?”

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Instead of basketball, have him sitting at small table with a chess set (being an intellectual). Label the ice rink with the word “politics”

BobMbx on January 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Obama has a big, big problem on his hands now, and few options other than prosecution in the tribunals he opposes.

Check – your move King Obama.

izoneguy on January 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Wow, Obama is looking more and more the fool every day…and they called President Bush stupid.

Pulchritudinous Patriot on January 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

What did anyone expect from an affirmative-action POTUS?

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

I am still interested in finding a Obama urinal cake!

grapeknutz on January 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

That’s a ‘hate crime’ lawsuit waiting to happen ;)

LimeyGeek on January 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Pizz on it!!!!!

grapeknutz on January 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

The decision throws into some disarray the administration’s plan to buy time…”

For some unknown reason, this single line put a smile on my face :)

It truly is the little things in life…

rvastar on January 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Headline: Presidents’ first “Present” vote returned DOA

BobMbx on January 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Wiley Coyote meet the Roadrunner.

Limerick on January 29, 2009 at 2:36 PM

I’m listening to the WH Presser on Fox… the Press is starting to ask tougher questions…

Prediction time:

How long until some enterprising Reporter gets ahold of, and publishes, his College Transcripts and Origional Birth Certificate?

I’ll bet, 3 weeks.

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Not as easy as it goes, eh President Obama? It’s easy to talk, now you have to act, and your experience (or lack thereof) tells us you won’t act wisely.

Richard Romano on January 29, 2009 at 2:42 PM

A moment of silence please for a Colonel who just ended his career.

johnsteele on January 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM

“…The Commission is bound by the law as it currently exists, not as it may change in the future.”

Bahaha!!

fiscallyconservative on January 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM

hahaha Im lovin it!

becki51758 on January 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Obama to staff: “That Judge said what?”
“Oh, Snap!”

Bwahahahahahahaha

kingsjester on January 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Headline: Presidents’ first “Present” vote returned DOA

Headline: “Fascist judge cites the ‘law’ in disobeying Lightbringer; toned abs argument ruled ‘immaterial’”

rvastar on January 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Whiff

HarneyPeak on January 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM

That Gibbs! He’s all uh uh uh, too!

What is it? Is Obama’s uh-stutter catching?

Alana on January 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

They have to think about every word as it leaves their mouths to make sure they don’t accidentally tell the truth.

Jim Treacher on January 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM

A bad day for Obamacles a better day for a safer America. Funny how that works out.

eaglewingz08 on January 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Not so easy being President of the United States…….

……….. is it jacka#s?

Now try it with the opposition party, the entire world wide press, Hollywood, and every single bureaucracy questioning and criticizing your every move……..

Seven Percent Solution on January 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM

This judges ruling is just a distraction, an attempt to divert your attention from the task at hand, so, uh… lets keep our eye on the ball, our hand on the wheel, and uh..Lincoln…did I mention Lincoln yet?

BobMbx on January 29, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Obambi is having a bad week.

ctmom on January 29, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I think Obambi is having a bad Presidency.

Rockygold on January 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Obama has a big, big problem on his hands now, and few options other than prosecution in the tribunals he opposes.

Reality is a bit#h isn’t it liberals!!

Baxter Greene on January 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Constitutional scholar, indeed.

Damiano on January 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Constitutional scholar, my a**!

Looking at his tax returns, it’s clear that he doesn’t know preferred stock from livestock. Watching him answer the tax questions in the ABC debate, it’s clear that he doesn’t know squat about tax policy. Watching him respond to the summertime Russia-Georgia flare-up, it’s clear that he doesn’t have a grasp of foreign affairs.

But this kind of thing is supposed to be right up his alley. And he blows it.

Who did these nitwits elect?

BuckeyeSam on January 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM

I was wondering how the Executive Branch was jumping into ongoing proceedings. Glad I wasn’t the only one.

Beagle on January 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM

So far Gibbs seems more like a Scott McClellan than a Ari Fleischer or Tony Snow or even a Mike McCurry.

What ever happened to Scottie anyway?

Sloan Morganstern on January 29, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Attorney for the defense of terrorists and part time god of America, The Obamanator, was not available for a B/S reply, since he was working up a love letter for his brethren in Iran.

Hening on January 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Obama must have had huge financial backing from Hollywood types that scripted out a Death to Smoochy Gitmo scenario. The Day One Gitmo orders are foolish announcements to mollify foolish but wealthy supporters. Surely there’s enough money in the O’bailout to compensate these backers, so Barry can duplicitously backtrack. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if the Commander-in-Chief traveled to the camp, confirmed the Inside Gitmo findings and eloquently announced a re-assessment?

Mark30339 on January 29, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Lame duck.

BadgerHawk on January 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM

You got that right, the Military and the CIA not listening to the Commander in Chief, that does not bode well for Obama.

That military judge is a patriot.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 29, 2009 at 4:50 PM

You got that right, the Military and the CIA not listening to the Commander in Chief, that does not bode well for Obama.

That military judge is a patriot.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 29, 2009 at 4:50 PM

You better believe Obama is going to have a handful with the CIA.They are obviously not happy with “Hope and Change” starting with putting a political hack like Panetta in charge:

Comment: CIA Insiders Issue Political Threats Against Obama, Panetta

January 8, 2009 ·
http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/02-32/

On January 6, I explained that US President Elect Barack Obama’s nomination of Leon Panetta to head the CIA will intensify his ongoing quarrel with the troubled agency. I further stated that the CIA, which is not known for welcoming previous Directors it perceives as outsiders, has already “shown signs of refusing to cooperate with the incoming Administration”. This is now becoming clearer, as numerous CIA sources come forward to sharply denounce Panetta’s nomination and, in some cases, even hurtle political threats at the Obama Administration and its nominee.

There has been to much work done to successfully defend this nation and turn the tide against the jihadist to let Paparazzi President and his idiot liberal friends blow it
with their “soft power” policies.

Baxter Greene on January 29, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Baxter Greene on January 29, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Its because these people see the threat, and take their Oaths to defend our country, agianst enemies both foreign and domestic, seriously.

Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 5:07 PM

For someone who was going to hit the ground running, Obama sure is limping pretty badly. If he were a horse, et.al.

PappaMac on January 29, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Just who does Col.Pohl think he is, trying to follow the law passed by congress and signed by the president.
Doesn’t he realize that the anointed one can trump any law with an executive order.
We are now a theocracy,where decrees from the messiah supercede all previous laws and constitutional previsions.

Amazed on January 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Here come da judge! That is one smart judge!

txstar on January 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Military Judge Col. James Pohl U.S. Army gets my Defending America Award.

P.S.
Pohl was also the judge that rejected Lynndie England’s guilty plea for the Abu Ghraib abuse trial.

Kaptain Amerika on January 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Dare I say he sounds down right presidential?

Disturb the Universe on January 29, 2009 at 5:47 PM

They have to think about every word as it leaves their mouths to make sure they don’t accidentally tell the truth.
Jim Treacher on January 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Bingo. If you are a truthful person you do not have to worry about what you say. Obviously, That One is not Bill Clinton.

BetseyRoss on January 29, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Pwn3d

What does this mean please????

clinker46 on January 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM

This is what happens when you have a supine MSM fail to vet the candidate for President:

Reparations-In-Chief.

Chump CHANGE.

profitsbeard on January 29, 2009 at 9:23 PM

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