Neither rain nor sleet nor dead of night, but the economy …
posted at 10:02 am on January 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Saturday postal service could disappear in a sea of red ink at the Post Office. The Postmaster General asked Congress to remove the mandate for deliveries six days a week in order to allow the USPS to control costs. Otherwise, their deficit may grow from $2.6 billion in 2008 to $6 billion this year:
Massive deficits could force the post office to cut out one day of mail delivery, the postmaster general told Congress on Wednesday, in asking lawmakers to lift the requirement that the agency deliver mail six days a week. …
Faced with dwindling mail volume and rising costs, the post office was $2.8 billion in the red last year. “If current trends continue, we could experience a net loss of $6 billion or more this fiscal year,” Potter said in testimony for a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee.
Total mail volume was 202 billion items last year, over 9 billion less than the year before, the largest single volume drop in history.
And, despite annual rate increases, Potter said 2009 could be the first year since 1946 that the actual amount of money collected by the post office declines.
Why have people shifted away from the Post Office? Electronic communication, primarily e-mail, and electronic bill paying are probably the two biggest reasons. FedEx and UPS have been around for decades, and the market share of parcel deliveries stabilized years ago. People rely much less on hand-delivered mail. Getting a handwritten letter is as quaint now as a Western Union telegram, and while the volume remains huge, it has already begun a long-term, significant downward drift.
The USPS has another problem besides the sixth delivery day requirement. They have a separate requirement to make advance payments on retiree health benefit costs, on which they must pay over $5 billion this year. They want Congress to relax that requirement, but that sounds like a shell game. If they can’t pay it now, how will they make it up later?
Mail service should be considered in light of these economic issues. We no longer need daily contact by mail in order to understand our world, pay our bills, or inexpensively remain in contact with friends and family. Two generations ago, long distance telephone calls were expensive, and e-mail wasn’t even a dream. Now many plans offer free, unlimited long-distance service and most people have access to inexpensive Internet service through work or home.
That doesn’t mean we don’t need postal service at all, but a reduction in delivery days seems reasonable. The AP reminds us that Saturday might not be the day that gets trimmed; Tuesday is actually the lightest day on the schedule, by some analyses. Still, the Saturday delivery should get trimmed first, as most businesses close on the weekends and the deliveries are completely unnecessary. Any business conducted will wait until Monday anyway. The union might not like it, as jobs and overtime will get reduced, but it makes the most business sense.










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Applies to ALL recipients of TARP funding all all the other bull$hit going on in DC
gatorboy on January 29, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Maybe they should actually have people that are productive…even, God forbid, hire people that can complete a sentence…
The carriers are great, but the personal running the place is an absolute a joke…a perfect example of what affirmative action does to a work force.
right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Well I guess that’s all well & good for those in the city bcs you have the option of UPS etc.
Out in the stix we don’t & in fact there are many areas out here that get mail only 3 or 4 days/ week bcs of the remoteness.
Far better they raise their rates. OK with me.
The postal service already contracts out their business anyway to private bidders. Our mailman is a private contractor.
Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM
This is great and should be a model for all government entities. Cut costs, even at the loss of some services rather than raising fees or taxes to maintain the unsustainable.
genso on January 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Let the free market pick it up. They can do it much more efficiently, and for less cost.
rightside on January 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I agree with that. Our postmaster in the nearest town is an absolute moron.
Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Reduce it to 2 or 3 days a week. Who really depends on the mail anymore?
kcluva on January 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Real simple cost cutting moving. Deliver mail ever other day. Some people get mail Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Other get the mail, Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Reduce your mail delivery staff nearly half.
Two, get rid of pensions and go to 401(k)s.
Is this really so hard?
WashJeff on January 29, 2009 at 10:13 AM
I bet the Unions fight this to the end.
JeffinSac on January 29, 2009 at 10:14 AM
The only time I ever see my mailman is on Saturday. He waives. I waive. I go back to raking or mowing the lawn.
Mr. Joe on January 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM
In this administration Mr. Morrissey, can you tell me when any decision has been made based on business sense?
Rovin on January 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Sorry, Ed, but I have to disagree about the day to stop delivery. I think for most people, well, most people who work, Saturday is the only day they can get to the Post Office so that’s the day to stay open.
Mr. Bingley on January 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM
My small town post office is alright, friendly staff and the lady who delivers the mail brings treats for my dog who runs out to visit her.
Still, the USPS seems awfully similar to the Detroit car companies when it comes to how they run their business.
Bishop on January 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM
All i ever get is bills anyway. I would like to see it dropped to one day a week.
MDWNJ on January 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM
If I were UPS or Fedex, I would be figuring out a way to maximize their many stores around the country. Bid for the routes, utilize their existing business model and resources, pay a fee to the government to sort, and hire and retrain the laid off postal workers. I bet we would get our mail faster and more efficiently. I can count on my left hand how many times I have been disappointed by Fedex or UPS.
sherry on January 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Good, fair, article, Ed. BTW, the losing Saturday delivery thing has been kicked around for longer than I’ve been carrying (18 years). Another idea for saving money would be closing the tiny offices in uber rural areas. We could close several around my small town, and hire another couple of rural carriers to take care of the delivery.
Another major improvement would be changing the work rules, a la the UAW. I work with some great people, but there are those who use and abuse the system to get away with murder. Can’t do a durned thing with them. Frustrating as hell.
bikermailman on January 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM
the US Post Office is a perfect example of why you don’t the government involved in commerce. Add to that a union, and you have a complete horror show. The employees are stereotypical characters that would never, ever find success in the world outside of government cushioned employment.
Just the way the attempted to computerize sending mail on-line is classic of how out of touch and lacking in vision these people can be. Close the post office all together.
Hening on January 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Privatize. It disgusts me that the Postal Service has to ask governmental permission to do this.
jdpaz on January 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Aren’t FedEx and UPS barred from delivering registered letters (or whatever they call them)?
I’m thinking they would be more than happy to expand into the general mail business, and do it cheaper.
Bishop on January 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Funniest line in the whole piece… or were you serious?
al sends
afterdarknesslight on January 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM
That sucks, another day my Netflix won’t come in…
Bill Scrunty on January 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM
WashJeff, since 1982, we’ve been on a system closer to most major companies. No Civil Service (a few left who were already in), a small pension (about 30% of High 3), and the Thrift Savings Plan, functionally equivalent to a 401k. Oh yeah, and Social Security too…. (eyes rolling)
bikermailman on January 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Bingo. Competition will also bring the prices to a fraction of what the Post Office currently charges.
MadisonConservative on January 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Shut it down completely and let the private sector (UPS, FedEx, etc) provide better service at a fraction of the price.
BuckNutty on January 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Environmentalists Wacko position:
Stop deliverying mail via the USPS. Think of all the trees wasted for junk mail and all the carbon put into the atmosphere by postal vehicles!! The USPS is killing the planet!
WashJeff on January 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM
It’s a spiral, see the trend?
tarpon on January 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM
OT has in fact, fallen off dramatically, with the mail volume dropping. I used to get 12-15k per year in legitimate OT, it’s pretty rare, and in dribs and drabbles now. The only ones getting any are the aforementioned slackers who first drag their heels, then dig them in.
bikermailman on January 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Ah, the wonder of government run business.
Government run healthcare? The emergency room is closed on Saturday. No, you are too old. No smokers. You broke yout leg skiing and you eat hamburgers? No meat eaters, uh, no vegetarians. Stay off of that damm motorcycle. That is all that I can think of rignt now, but I am sure that government can think of many more.
Johan Klaus on January 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM
We rented a property we owned here in Fayetteville while I was stationed in Panama. The people who rented it were another military family and Dad was an E6 who was getting medically boarded out. (MEB)ed.
They didn’t pay the last three months rent. They destroyed our great room walls with cheap pine shelves they put all the way around the room. Candles had wax dripping all throughout the house in the carpet. Candles are important when you have the electricity turned off. Dogs destroyed the garage door and walls. Okay, point is, their mail kept coming to the house. Unpaid bills and credit card mail with final notice stamped on it. And a big envelope that was from the Raleigh Postal Employment Center. All mail was forwarded in a very responsible manner I guarantee you, but I also called Raleigh and told them their potential employee.
Vindictive? Not in the least. These are the people that see Grandmas B-Day card to your kid and shove it in their pants or bra because they’re behind in their freaking credit card bill.
He still works for them.
I couldn’t get a job with them if my name were Zip Code.
hawkdriver on January 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Yep. Saturday is a waste.
The proposal just mentions delivery, not cutting back on hours at the P.O.
It’s still a drop in the bucket compared to pensions/benefits though.
reaganaut on January 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM
told them “about”
hawkdriver on January 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM
But they might make a profit.
Johan Klaus on January 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Isn’t that a wee bit presumptuous? We don’t all operate in a M-F 9 to 5 environment; this is a 24/7 world we live in. Frankly, it sounds like the sort of thing a Dem would say, like, you don’t need to drive an SUV or minivan…
Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Ha. and I was complaining just yesterday that they didn’t deliver on Sundays…
Trent1289 on January 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM
hee, it’s all about you.
hawkdriver on January 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Privatize the old dinosaur.
rplat on January 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM
hee, it’s all about you.
hawkdriver on January 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM
At least his DVD burner will last longer.
Bishop on January 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM
But what about women, children and minorities?
JiangxiDad on January 29, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Isn’t that a wee bit presumptuous? We don’t all operate in a M-F 9 to 5 environment; this is a 24/7 world we live in.
I agree, we should have our mail delivered at 3 a.m.; you thought you heard union screaming before.
Bishop on January 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Well i have to say the only good thing here in NJ that they have done in years, was to privatize the DMV. When the government ran it you could wait 3 hours just to get your license renewed or your registration. Since they changed to it a private company, the longest i waited for anything has been 20 minutes.
MDWNJ on January 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Most people are missing it here. The USPS is mandated to go to every house and business in the USA 6 days a week regardless of what or how much they deliver to each house or business. UPS and FedEx on the other hand go only where they have a delivery.
In addition the USPS has to extend huge discounts to Non Profits (most are phony) and political mailings. In their defense they simply cannot continue to provide this service with the constraints of the government regulations.
Imagine how much money they lost in 2008 when gas prices skyrocketed. The USPS was stuck with their rates while UPS and FedEx immediately imposed surcharges. It takes 6 months to a year for them to have rate increases approved by the COngress.
I for one think that they do a great job.
iam7545 on January 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I am a postal clerk at an office with 24 city routes & 6 rural routes. I have also worked at several very small rural offices. Saturday is busy for the reason someone else mentioned: it is the only day some people can get there. The discussion so far has been about delivery though. I don’t think the window would be closed on Saturday. Most offices have recently been audited in my district to see where we have too much and too little manpower. We are eliminating 2 routes and they will be absorbed into the others.
Terri on January 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I have, for years, used the USPS as a means of last resort.
At this point, I’d say ten percent of our mail is by choice – magazine subscriptions. I receive most statements and billing through electronic medium. Therefore, 90% of the mail goes straight into the shredder or recycle bin.
They could come once a week, and it would be fine by me.
tru2tx on January 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Just a few comments…
1) I believe the Postal Service is a Constitutional agency. There are provisions in the Constitution for postal offices, roads, etc. So I do not agree that it should completely go away.
2) I agree with a poster above who commented about switching staff to alternating days of delivery. While the offices should continue to be open all days, individual delivery should alternate, and allow them to reduce staff.
3) I also agree with switching retirements from pension to 401k. Not only does it put these Governmental employees in line with most businesses, it encourages the Government to focus on the economy and not handouts.
dominigan on January 29, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Bring back the Pony Express. Oh yeah -the outcry from PETA,ALF,etc.
BHO Jonestown on January 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Agreed.
What about people who are trying to mail packages out?
Hyperbole aside, do you think that its reasonable to say, “business can wait until Monday?”. My point is simply that its not for us to tell people how they can, do, or should operate their businesses.
If I might use another analogy, its like saying “95% of Americans will get a tax cut. So what if the other 5% are screwed”?
If there is a way for private industry to take over the post office, I have no problem with that. Let Fedex/UPS or some other entity make a proposal. But, continuing to operate but closing on Saturday is not a good solution.
Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Neither rain, nor heat, nor dead of night, nor union dues, nor raising of stamp prices to cover administrative costs, nor employees calling in, nor…
Privatize it. It will lower prices.
kingsjester on January 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM
USPS is not mandated as such. There are plenty of places in this country where they do not deliver (too rural) and people must get a PO Box to receive mail.
This bulk mail is the USPS’s most profitable segment.
lorien1973 on January 29, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Get ready to be stimulated in your bank, your car dealership, your doctors office, etc. – It’s coming – look for all sectors of business to follow the model of our USPS. The problem is – Obama will crush any competition in any sector that the governement owns. So – if you don’t need to mail anything, don’t need to make a deposit or get a loan, don’t need a new car or you don’t need to see a doctor – you are golden for now. God forbid the government owning food stores or gas stations…..
izoneguy on January 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM
That’s funny, cuz both UPS and FedEx use the postal service for some of their services so they’ve decided that the USPS is pretty cost effective. UPS, however, has a service that you can ship mail through – and sometimes cheaper than priority rates.
lorien1973 on January 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM
For bureaucrats, yes. For businessmen, no.
Great idea BTW.
fogw on January 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Talk about global warming!! LOL, if the USPS would eliminate junk mail that would probably be enough to stop global warming in it’s tracks….
izoneguy on January 29, 2009 at 10:47 AM
posturing… not to worry… your post office will keep deliverying your netflix addiction 6 days a week
gatorboy on January 29, 2009 at 10:47 AM
How much mail do we get (personal or business) that must be acted on IMMEDIATELY!? I could go with the every other day service idea. I do not know if FEDEX or UPS could do the work cheaper. How much would it cost to mail a letter or a Christmas Card via UPS or FEDEX? – not 42 cents, that’s for sure.
HawaiiLwyr on January 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM
I see union trouble.
Johan Klaus on January 29, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Buy Danish, the rural carriers are already ‘rolling post offices’. They can take deliveries, issue postage, etc. As for bulk mail, very low profit margin. Usually ‘bulky’, and not much payment for it. It does however, make up a lot of revenue. The biggest profit margin is first class mail, which has dropped vastly, which is one of the big reasons for lower revenues. That, and the gas costs last year. A quarter million vehicles on the road, do the math…lol
bikermailman on January 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM
I’m old enough to remember am/pm deliveries on Mon-Sat, plus a delivery on Sunday. :)
The primary difference between FedEx/UPS and the USPS is that the USPS serves everyone everywhere. You can send a letter overseas to Majuro or Kwajalein or to a Rural Route address in Kansas. FedEx & UPS don’t serve RR–I know, I’ve tried. DHL, which did serve many of the Pacific Islands, has dropped their overseas business.
I would have no problem if there were no Saturday delivery as long as the window at the office is still open at least until 1:00 p.m. But I live in a major suburb. And I have great Internet access. That option might not work for other areas of the country.
As for the employees… well, as in every organization there are workers and slackers. I have no quibble with the postal employees I’ve met, locally or in the City.
March Hare on January 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Hogwash, the people in the Soviet Union only stood in bread lines, because the lines to shoot the Soviet premier were too long.
Johan Klaus on January 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I think, but not sure, the largest profit is from selling commemorative stamps and other collectibles.
I am not sure they include that in their budget, but the profits and money they receive is enormous…plus people pay for these stamps, then never use them…hence the huge profits.
right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Judging by how far they cut that all back, I doubt it. The market for stamp dorks wasn’t as big as they thought.
Apologies to any stamp dorks. No wait. No apologies. It’s a stamp. Who cares who’s on it.
lorien1973 on January 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM
I just remember the Sears Catalog. I must’ve been around 9 or 10 or something when that stopped, I think. Poor guys.
Now I get 12 different yellow pages every year. What’s up with that? I just throw them all away. Hello. Internet.
lorien1973 on January 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM
They make little on Non Profit mailings. I agree that for profit bulk mail is profitable.
Of course there are exceptions. However any house that they deliver to gets a visit each day if there is one piece of junk mail or 100 pieces.
To think that UPS or FedEx or anyone else can provide a better service is naive. The USPS sorting centers are a mastery of the latest electronic sorting technology. I would suggest that a trip to a sorting center would change many minds about the USPS.
iam7545 on January 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Profits? Then they don’t need our help.
Johan Klaus on January 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM
right2bright, too true. As a carrier, I generally think in terms of that side of operations. Collector stamps, pure profit. It is in fact figured in, but in terms of both quantity, and types of mail, first class is the most profitable. Mea culpa.
bikermailman on January 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM
The USPS has a monopoly on first class mail. No other carriers can do it. UPS will not deliver to a po box. At the rural post offices I worked at UPS & FedEx & the former DHL dropped of packages daily for us to deliver because it wasn’t cost effective or profitable for them to do it.
Terri on January 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM
In a free market economy, when demand goes down, so does prices. Sooooo, drop the price of a letter.
Another solution: Join the electronics age. USPS should develop its own email service like gmail, etc. Wouldn’t that be the natural progression for their industry? Email is a case of a classic “disruptive technology” (explained here) to the business of message delivery.
kurtzz3 on January 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Um right, it’s the economy…
I’m going to have to question the timing on this one. The PO has been going down the tubes for decades, and now they announce a crisis just in time for the giant pork bill to be debated and revised in the Senate. hmmmm
forest on January 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM
What if the rolling post office shows up and nobody is home because they’re at work?
As for the cost of gas, sounds like another argument to drill baby, drill.
Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM
The USPS is the only carrier that will send to APO addresses. For that I am grateful and our troops are grateful.
Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 11:23 AM
More and more evidence of the ways not having nationalized healthcare screws everyone. Auto workers, postal workers etc.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Thanks for your perspective. You are right abt UPS & FedEx.
UPS is pretty good about its rural deliveries out here.
But FedEx sucks. I had to drive 90 miles to Bismarck to get a FedEx package. They refused to deliver it any further.
Without the USPO, us rural folks would suffer, but if they raised prices, maybe it would work.
UPS already delivers our parts etc. So they would still be our mainstay for large packages.
Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM
The post office is two things:
1) a union giveaway – employ slobs that can’t work anywhere else
2) corporate welfare – bulk mail. If it were E-mail, it’d be spam.
and hence will never be reformed. This is just a ploy to argue for a bailout.
Do we really need mail delivered to residences 6 days a week any more?
If you leave your mail to be picked up in your mailbox, you subject yourself to identity theft.
With all the useless crap (catalogs, spam) I get in my mail, I’d like to just get mail on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Most bills I get are electronic.
see ya
K
krl on January 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Another simple cost-cutter…stop advertising. Its a government service. Also, why would Saturday be the day to get cut? They are already closed on Sundays, and close on weekdays at 5 pm. I heard a crazy rumor that a lot of people can’t go to the post office during those hours because they work.
thecountofincognito on January 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Great. That means if I return my Netflix discs on Thursday, I won’t get the new ones until Monday, instead of Saturday.
irishspy on January 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Well, guilty… I pay all of my bills online, and don’t get any paper bills at the house anymore.
In these days of identity theft, it is the most secure.
Now, my friend takes all of the “postage paid” envelopes from the credit, insurance, and other applications (think junk mail) and mails the envelopes back with a page from the newspaper’s coupon books. It costs them money.
Mazztek on January 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM
You poor dear. Do you rely on the post office to deliver your health care?
Or is there another reason for that non sequitur in a discussion of operating hours and delivery service?
Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Hmmm… in the private sector, company employees are the generally first to suffer in an economic downturn. For government operations, the first people screwed are consumers. An interesting juxtoposition, is it not?
fiscallyconservative on January 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM
What happens to the “folks” who get their “checks” and food stamps that get delivered on the 1st of the month, and if that day falls on one of the days the mail service is going to be stopped?
I could care less when they deliver because all I get is junk that goes directly to the trash. But what about the “folks”?
Knucklehead on January 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Yes sweetie there is a reason to :) And that is that a huge part of what’s driving the post office into the red are healthcare costs. Healthcare costs that would be less were everyone to be sharing the burden a bit via nationalized healthcare.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 29, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I just stopped at the Post Office a few days ago to pick up stamps.
- They had a greeter, just like Wal-Mart. He went into an explanation of which machine to go to for each service when I made eye contact. He wasn’t wearing a uniform, but did clearly seem to be an employee, and I wondered why they bothered paying a greeter, let alone how (and personally, was kind of freaked out by the old guy staring at me).
- They also had a FedEx box right outside the entrance. A bit counterproductive, no?
Those who are worried about Netflix – you can stream some movies on your computer, plus if you have an XBox 360 and an XBox live account, streaming is supposed to come soon.
And I agree with cutting Tuesdays or some other day. I usually don’t manage to get mail in my mailbox for pickup any day but Saturday.
seketabi on January 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Stop accepting junk mail and I bet the problems would go away. I am still waiting for a small package I order four days ago. The package tracking says it left the mail processing center two days after arrival.
I pay all bills online, my paycheck is direct-deposited to an H&R Block emerald card I got for a tax refund a few years ago (love it, except when I get a physical check).
The world has moved on, business and government needs to adapt or they will fail (like Circuit City). And theres nothing wrong with failure, its part of the process.
Neo on January 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM
So, we in a discussion about a nationalized federal entity which is failing, you recommend we entrust our healthcare to a nationalized federal entity?
Buy Danish on January 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Sorry, but they did it to themselves. Every time they raised rates, I enrolled in two or three more bill paying sites. Now, I maybe mail 2-3 things per month. Too bad, so sad.
Sarah2053 on January 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM
After examining this GAO report containing “Table 1: Key Events in Postal History, 1775-2004′, it looks like the postal service hit its peak in 1901, when it reached a maximum of 76,945 post offices, and has been slowly declining ever since. They used to deliver mail twice per day but stopped that in 1950. Cutting a day of service looks like an extension of that trend of decline. Technology and competition are eating their lunch.
And really, who wants to stand in line for a half hour to mail a package if they can go to FedEx or UPS or have it delivered online? The Post Office is the only business I’ve seen that will actually push paying customers out before they can make their purchase and slam the door in the face of a crowd of customers wanting to do business with them.
Tantor on January 29, 2009 at 12:41 PM
To the commentor who had “concern” for the people who are waiting for their government check: not to worry. Some of those checks come early now with the date we have to deliver it printed on the envelope. We routinely hold them until the date posted.
Terri on January 29, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Tantor, I think you have experienced poor management. We do no push people out the door at my post office. If you are in the que by 5 pm we will take as long as necessary to help you. Then after 5 we will coach you through the use of the APC if you like. We retrieve packages and certified letters thru the side door if we are not open. I have helped people at 5 am and at 6 pm. I have dug through ALL the mail in a large collection box looking for 5 wedding invitations that the bride to be accidently threw in because she forgot to put stamps on them. My office routinely tapes boxes and helps customers package their item free of charge. The employees and customers bring in their left over or excess packaging supplies for others.
Terri on January 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM
…and I can just see our health care.
I am sorry, we are not admitting anyone on Sat. or Sun.
Nor do we take patients on MLK, 4th July or any of the other 10 official fed. holidays…of course any holiday falling on sat or sun, they get fri or mon off.
right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 1:03 PM
I generally have found postal workers very nice, however the management is a mess…about as incompetent as you can get, and an outfall of affirmative action.
right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Like I was saying earlier…USPS has better rates and shipping methods than USPS as far as MY business is concerned. Also no matter if UPS offers a little ‘better’ rate on priority service as far as I know they do not supply you with boxes, tape, labels…like the USPS does.
When UPS or FEDX have a shipping office in every zip code, then they might be competitive for lots of small businesses like me. Convenience and timely shipping = service and that’s what I’ve found through trial and error with shipping packages. Besides, I’d rather pay USPS $12.00 than pay USPS $100.00 for the same thing. Send package, get package. Simple enough. You want a $25.00 item to cost you $25.00 to ship? OK with me as long as you’re paying.
DanaSmiles on January 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM
That should be ‘than UPS’…where is the edit button?!?
DanaSmiles on January 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Allow private companies to deliver parcels as well as packages. Problem solved.
ashleymatt on January 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Knucklehead, anytime the 1st or 3rd of the month falls on a non-delivery day, they go on the previous delivery day.
seketabi, as for the FedEx box, we have cooperative agreements with them, DHL, and UPS. We deliver some of their stuff they can’t do cost effectively, and they carry a lot of mail on their planes. After 9/11, a lot of new regs prevent the airlines from carrying much mail. Why don’t we have our own frakkin’ planes? Ask our ‘leaders’ up on the Hill. We might be able to compete a little better with the other guys, you know.
bikermailman on January 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I am sorry but this is getting ugly real quick..
And i am sorry but i need to cut costs..
So most packages are now going out either as ups or i order electronically (to minimize shipping)
I cannot afford to pay 1.00 dollar to mail a letter accross town..
I might as well drive it there myself..
jcila on January 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Is that a demonstrable assertion? Overall health care costs would be less if it was provided through the government? Would quality also be the same or better?
DarkCurrent on January 29, 2009 at 1:40 PM
I could get by with mail delivery once a week. Would that help?
Or maybe we need to *gasp* privatize the service.
Count to 10 on January 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Nail.On.Head.
I was in this business (on the USPS side) for about 10 years. It is pure profit (minus production and transport costs), and a lot of it. For the USPS-produced collectibles, the stamps come cancelled so they never show up in the mail stream. The OTC sales of stamps to collectors is always a risk (they can show up at anytime), but as time passes, the rates change forcing a user of old stamps to make a stamp purchase to make up the difference; most folks won’t buy a make-up stamp. They’ll just hand over a dollar bill for a single first class stamp, and put the change in their pocket.
Another point is this: Who gets to pick up the pension payments if the USPS goes away? Those pensions are currently paid from postal revenue, not the US Treasury. If and when the USPS goes away, those pensions do not, and someone has to pay them. Who is that going to be? You and me. I say we may as well get a service for our money.
BobMbx on January 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Bulk mail is & always has been a money-maker for the USPS.
jgapinoy on January 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM
The USPS has contracts with FedEx & DHL. They do stuff for us, we do stuff for them.
jgapinoy on January 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM
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