Video: Er, what if Mexico collapses?
posted at 7:58 pm on January 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Somewhere Geraldo’s watching this and cursing under his breath about wingnut alarmism. Tell it to the Defense Department, champ. How many goodies are packed away in this Pandora’s box? Let’s see: Our illegal immigration problem would rapidly turn into a refugee problem; the new warlords in charge would be cultivated by America’s enemies for border access; and, as Beck notes, either the U.S. or the World Bank or both would probably end up on the hook for billions as part of a national bailout. A forward-thinking chief executive might want to prepare now by reinforcing the border with walls and infrastructure improvements and expanding the BP to make sure they’re capable of providing a first line of defense. But that would cost tons of money. Anyone know of any spending bills in Congress that might help cover the expense?
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Yep, this one kinda hurts to even think about. *shudder*
flyawaybird on January 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Hey, that lady looks familiar, where do I know her from?
Tony737 on January 28, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Don’t be silly, Allah…we won’t have any money left over after we finish buying shiny new cars for the entire Federal government, etc.
uncivilized on January 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM
On a related matter, I think it was a great idea to pair up Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin as much as they have been. The only thing that would be more awesome is if they gave Geert Wilders and Mark Steyn an regular gig on Al Jazeera TV.
NorthernCross on January 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM
…………. nothing comes to mind,
but we will have a few shovels in a little while,
……………… and I need a job.
Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Better get busy building that wall!
And don’t forget the 400 million for global warming research and the 2.? billion for carbon capture demonstration projects… and the list goes on. But hey, at least the dhimmicrats own this one!!
4shoes on January 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM
The good news: the fence is 90% done.
jgapinoy on January 28, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Heh.
Weight of Glory on January 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Fox news this morning, was showing some info, after the news of those shiney new cars. Federal govt, uses over 900,000 gallons of gas a day????
No wonder they want us all to conserve, and use public transportation. It means more for them, and oh goody…we get to pay for it too!
capejasmine on January 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM
We should just take over and move down to Mexico. Hell, most of them are here anyway. We’d just be invading an empty country. Miami can be the new New York. Cancun can be the new Miami. Old New York will most likely become the new Greenland at this rate. Give the squatters the frozen north and Al Gore.
Coronagold on January 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Funny Allah, the ONLY time you remotely advocate anything conservative is when you’re talking about something that involves your boss, yet you still manage to get a little nod to the left in there.
So, we should go with the stimulus package to get BP and a wall? You’re too much!
Sultry Beauty on January 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Monroe Doctrine.
Rodent on January 28, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Re. Beck:
Alleged James Dobson “hatred” of Mr Beck notwithstanding, Dobson was on Beck’s show the other day, & they had an amicable time.
jgapinoy on January 28, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Mexico is going to turn into a failed terror state.
tarpon on January 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM
That is a terrifying development.
Why isn’t anyone talking about this?!?
Richard Romano on January 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM
We don’t want that mess. That’s the last thing we need.
ronsfi on January 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM
It’s getting mucho bad down here. Does anyone know Geraldo’s address so that Maria and our 6 ninos and uncle Garcia and his wife Esmeralda and their 8 ninos and cousin Filiberto and his wife Grizelda and their 9 ninos could move in with him? Cousin Lino got shot last week so he won’t be coming but his widow Maricruz would like to come with their 5 ninos too.
NoBordersJose on January 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Spending Bills….I love that comment.
Maybe The One can convince his favorite govenator to protect the border for us. Heck, maybe he can get Rambo to help!
http://www.therightscoop.com/house-republicans-thank-you-for-voting-no/
funsutton on January 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Well, there’s always the 1846 approach.
darkpixel on January 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Knock off the AP bashing. It’s wrong and annoying.
The one effect that hasn’t been brought up, but will be a reality, is that you will have a great deal of American citizens in Arizona, New Mexico, and most of all Texas…unleashed. Right now there are certain political considerations about shooting illegal aliens, especially spotted while crossing the border. If Mexico collapses, that isn’t going to matter anymore. They will be getting a lot of target practice.
MadisonConservative on January 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM
You know……
…….. I am always curious why groups like La Raza are not the first ones in line, organizing Mexican patriots, to go back home and fight to clean up their corrupt country.
They are quick to get into our faces to fund illegals, teach revisionist history, and interfere with our politics……..
……. but when it comes to Mexico, they are like a cowering Chihuahua in the corner.
Why is that…….?
Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM
$850 billion could build a fairly nice wall.
fogw on January 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Why not have a population transfer. All Mexicans move north. Conservatives and allies get Mexico.
JiangxiDad on January 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM
You had best hope that you-know-who doesn’t see that post. You know how he gets. It will be off with your head for sure.
Cheshire Cat on January 28, 2009 at 8:21 PM
How many land mines would $850 billion buy?
Bishop on January 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Mexico already collapsed a long time ago.
SoulGlo on January 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Economic stimulus spending = Putting a bounty on illegal immigrants.
Dreadnought223 on January 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM
I’m not calling for that to happen. I’m predicting that it is what will happen, right or wrong.
MadisonConservative on January 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Mexico’s oil rigs look rather attractive…
innominatus on January 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I too like seeing Glenn and Michelle pair up on his show. Hopefully more people will become aware of this problem to our south.
Let’s take some of that contraception and sod money, and build us a wall. A frakking ginormous wall, with minefields and a moat and sharks with lasers.
Anna on January 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Oh no! Now it’s really going to hit the fan.
Cheshire Cat on January 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM
TEXICO
Been saying it for years.
Texas will invade Mexico and we will annex it and clean it up.
izoneguy on January 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Don’t be silly. Why is this a problem? Obama calls “illegal aliens”..Democrats.
steve007 on January 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Build the wall and let them sink. What the hell does Mexico have that we need? Lucha mask salesmen? Mariachis? Pfft.
fusionaddict on January 28, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Awesome! I’ve always wanted to be a warlord. Now my oppotunity to give it a try will only be a 4hr drive away!
bitsy on January 28, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Interesting point. So, you’re seeing a real possibility for a surge in vigilante justice? Taking that idea further and inverting it, do you also suppose the drug cartels would use their connections with gangs to sew chaos in major U.S. cities in response?
Weight of Glory on January 28, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Tequila!
bitsy on January 28, 2009 at 8:30 PM
I agree, we don’t want the troubles.
But if there is a (worse) collapse, we’re going to have them anyway.
Better, after a total collapse, to just move in and fix things so we don’t have this huge economic and structural (mainly in the law-enforcement sense) delta on our southern border.
Rodent on January 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM
A couple of friends in Arizona have informed me that they have already done so in some smaller US border towns. Supposedly a few were under quarantine, and may currently be technically under martial law. I don’t have any printed reports to back that up, but I trust these two. It’s not good.
MadisonConservative on January 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM
What about sneaking AQ and goons across?
canopfor on January 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM
This is about the 30th rendition of Mexico is falling – 1st – it will take about 2 or 3 years for these warlords to emerge, 2nd then I seriously doubt they will take on the worlds greatist military power.
EricPWJohnson on January 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM
I live near El Paso. We have been aware for some time of the Mexico problem. Juarez is a war zone. Buying ammo is a big problem. Long guns are scarce. We have been instructed to have food and water for five days on hand at all times. Not a pretty picture.
Onamesa on January 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Frick.
Weight of Glory on January 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM
I think the first order of spending is going to be really cool Mac laptops and World of Warcraft games for the Obama staff……
ctmom on January 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Don’t you dare knock it off, you Beauty, you! You are dead on – and Madison is dead.
Just…like…Liberty!
klickink.wordpress.com on January 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM
The “fence” they are building is a joke.
Mark1971 on January 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM
lets spend only a few billion fixing the fence, and lets employ some 12,000 unemployed gang bangers currently on welfare in , lets say chicago , you know , the chronicly unemployed to stand watch on the border. Pay them a bonus for each illegal they
bring across, i mean shoot legally on sight . But the problem here is they will still be shooting registered voters, and acorn employees.UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 28, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Wow, that must do wonders for your property value.
ctmom on January 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Quick – how many border agents can $600 million dollars buy? Instead of contraception, perhaps that money will have a better, quicker impact on the economy than condoms and sex-ed.
klickink.wordpress.com on January 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
sharks and lasers…
Anna on Jan 28,2009 at 8:24PM.
Anna: Splendid idea,and job stimulous as well!
Whats needed is a array,of geo-sycn Weapon Laser Platforms,
that are floating high above Mexico,and the first illegal
who crosses,and it ain’t at the border crossing,gets toasted!
And,on the real cheap,assemble giant magnifying glasses,
and let the Sun work its magic,that way,it’ll be green
enough to get those sneaky Democrats on board!(Snark!):)
canopfor on January 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
You should sign the Democrats petition and have me shut up. Or you can just skip over my comments like I usually do yours.
As for my comments, if AP makes sarcastic statements that are anti-conservative agenda and advocate for McCain style governance on here than I’m going to counter it. If AP doesn’t like it, he has the ban button. He can slice me like a hammer. It’s not like I don’t tell him when I think he’s doing a good job. Besides, I like it when he links my tips to Newt’s stuff even when it sucks.
Sultry Beauty on January 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Hmmm. I wonder what the effect of something, oh, I don’t know, roughly equivalent to the second amendment would be in the case of Mexico, if they, you know, had one.
TinMan13 on January 28, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Yeah, because AP was a biiig McCain advocate and fan.
Like I said. Wrong. And annoying.
MadisonConservative on January 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM
ctmom on January 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
I’m far enough from El Paso, about 40 miles, that so far it’s not too bad, yet. We’re more concerned with the hordes and the resultant lawlessness.
Onamesa on January 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM
That could be just the thing to push Mexico over the edge. We do not want to “Schumer” Mexico by eroding confidence in the state. I think that would be too large a sign that Mexico has failed.
We have bases and troops and the National Guard that can be deployed very quickly. No need to be hasty.
Theworldisnotenough on January 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Qiuck-how many border agents……
klickink.wordpress.com on Jan 28,2009 at 8:38PM.
Klickink.wordpress.com: That reminds me,of when Bill
Clinton was suppose to hire,
100,000 new Cops?
canopfor on January 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I was just going by what was on the news today.
What’s wrong with the fence?
jgapinoy on January 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Why should they take us on? All they have to do is scoot across the border and set up shop in California, Arizona and/or Texas.
Once they have their fake SS cards and get on Osama Obama’s “health care/food/homes for all (except those who earn them)” program, they can do what they want. Communities won’t be able to afford to keep their police forces going much longer….
MrScribbler on January 28, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Beauty AND eloquence! Can’t beat it with a stick, MadisonConjob – give it up.
Usually you won’t be banned unless a bunch of losers gang up and complain. For some reason the liberals (and a few claiming conservatism as their creed) tend to hate free speech. Calling out AP (and Ed, too) for posts that have hidden liberal or can’t-we-all-get-along agendas, isn’t that what HOTAIR is all about?
Besides, many here seem to realize what AP is doing. My belief is MM does as well, but keeps him around to appease the unFairness inDoctrine coming any day now.
klickink.wordpress.com on January 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Perhaps all the security gates they have on them:
Press one for Spanish (with a response of “Welcome Amigo, my country is your country and please take a free map to the wonderful plantation owner employer of your choice. Also please feel free to enroll you children in our schools and demand that they be taught in Spanish and please also feel free to avail yourself of all the free medical care that you want. If there are any Gringos in line in front of you, just go to the head of the line. If you want to fly any Mexican flags plese feel free to just take down an American one and use it’s flag pole”).
Press two for English (with a response of “#uck you! You damned bigoted nativist lazy madre fornicario gringo who do not want what is right for America del Norte!!!”).
MB4 on January 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
“Fix things?” Obama? Oh ye of unwarranted optimism. Unless by “Fix things” you mean with guided munitions and Navy Seal Teams.
ronsfi on January 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
The nickname of that evil drink–’Ta Kill Ya’–never seemed more appropriate.
baldilocks on January 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Or like a Mexican-born student told me today – “This is Mexico, get used to it!”
klickink.wordpress.com on January 28, 2009 at 8:50 PM
MB4 on January 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
You are right on! They totally overwhelm our services.
Onamesa on January 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Lock and load
Big John on January 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Well,
I’ve finally realized why Mexico is never able to field a decent team at the Olympics. Anyone who can run, jump, or swim is already over here.
Sigh…..
AW1 Tim on January 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Well, here in southwest El Paso, literally a hop over the border from the huge (and deadly) Anapra colonia in Juarez, we’re right smack on the border here and so far its been quiet. The fence along Paisano Drive is almost finished, but the bridges and the Sunland Park crossings are still quite porous, if someone really wanted to sneak something over.
They need police protection to do what they do, so it’s unlikely that it will easily cross over, at least for the time being.
A lot of well-to-do Juarenses and Chihuahuenses live here in our neighborhood. It’s a lot safer for them (and their kids) here than even in the big gated communities in Juarez and Chihuahua.
TexasJew on January 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM
And yet a bunch backwards semi illiterate islamofascist tribesmen from Pakistan don’t seem to have any problem in repeatedly challenging the combined military power of several western nations in Afghanistan.
In fact certain aspects of the border war going on in Afghanistan and Pakistan atm are a perfect example of what can be expected on the border with Mexico if that countries government collapses and the place descends into lawlessness.
Dreadnought223 on January 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM
As of a couple of years ago.
“Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That’s 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.
But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That’s [another] 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.”
MB4 on January 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Leave Madison alone, you’re too much woman for him! Me, on the other hand…
abobo on January 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Errrr
Ugly on January 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM
No, Oil!
Cindy Munford on January 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Uh oh. Woman on the internet detected. Cyber-alphas crawling out of the woodwork.
MadisonConservative on January 28, 2009 at 9:05 PM
They already do
and this
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5786549/
izoneguy on January 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Riiight
Look, Mexico has problems, there have been cheap novels written since 1910 about a wave of poor Mexicans taking over the southwest
Suddenly being hispanic is the new Al Qaeda?
Illegal immigration is wrong – building a fence is right
Over the to tin foil discussions about a military paper is rediculous
Do you know we have the same paper on Canada? China? Even Australia and France?
EricPWJohnson on January 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM
“IF”? LOL!
Fletch54 on January 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM
And giant killer porpoises with rabies….arrrrh!
Oldnuke on January 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM
It is a shame the country is in the hands of an ignorant, elitist, idiot. He is well spoken though.
pat on January 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Instructed by who?
Oldnuke on January 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Are we speaking of Mexico or America here?
We should change the name of this post to “Now that the Mexican government has collapsed.”
Mojave Mark on January 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Bad tempered Unicorn’s perhaps?
Dreadnought223 on January 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM
You’re stroking my yearn for gene :-) In my younger days I loved tequila (Mezcal con gusano) shots and beer. I can’t do that anymore and sometimes I really miss it :-(
Oldnuke on January 28, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Mexico: #3
Ugly on January 28, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Unicorns cannot possibly have bad tempers or manners for that matter. They do go well with mashed potatoes and gravy though.
Oldnuke on January 28, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Mexico is filled with poor people and a handful of the filthy rich. No wonder (See above link).
Ugly on January 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM
So what if Mexico collapses. Our president has POISE!
DrStock on January 28, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Yes, Sir, that is what I meant.
After, and only after, a collapse deep enough that the non-criminal part of the population would actually like our help.
As for “unwarranted optimism”, yeah, again I have to agree with you, the big 0 isn’t going to be applying the Monroe doctrine. That’s a good thing, since I’d much rather have a 100 million thankful new voters come in under a Republican administration.
To answer someone else’s “What do we need in Mexico?”:
Oil. Land. Coastline, with (I think) a few good sites for naval bases. Nice people, if they aren’t stuck under a corrupt government.
Most importantly, not having Nuevo-Afghanistan next door.
Rodent on January 28, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Mexico is a classic case
where the entire government is so corrupt
where the entire government is liberal
afraid to even enforce their own laws
Unless your an honest citizen
then the police RAPE your sorry ass..
If you look at columbia atleast their president
Beoffe obama TRIED to resist the drug lords
For the Good of the citizens
If you want to see americas future you have 2 clear cut examples
Columbia – still trying to fight (until the democrats cut off all militarty aid) obama says to talk to the drug lords
or
Mexico – which is now bankrupt and so corrupt mexicans are fleeing to the safety of the usa??
that wont last long because the liberals
will make it a crime to resist..
nless your paying off ohh
Pelozi, soros, al-gore, hillary
shees just right a big thank you on the new symbol of america
George washington
Bent over and barney franks and the Democrats
All Taking TURNS…
I say i have had ENOUGH!!!
jcila on January 28, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Without the correct ROE border walls and border patrols don’t mean squat. Of course, I’d get banned for saying what the appropriate ROE are … since it has become unfashionable to treat international borders as deadly serious lines …
progressoverpeace on January 28, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Or the other way around. We keep the amber waves of grain.
Grafted on January 28, 2009 at 9:44 PM
horse puckey …
AZ_Redneck on January 28, 2009 at 9:48 PM
It has been happening already. About six months ago four headless bodies were found in Baja, Ca. Gangs have been going nuts and infiltrating up to where I live. Santa Maria, Ca. use to be the safest city years back. Now it is getting as violent from gangs. It is going to get crazy and this has been set up for years. I do believe our Government wants that to happen. We might have to fight our selves. Hope not but might. Also in San Diego, Ca. there have been people vanishing. No trace.
sheebe on January 28, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Mexico has already imploded. As a Californian I watched the protesters @ the Mormon Temple
Mexico imploded long ago. Living in SoCal I watched my state vote Hope/Change & protest @ the Mormon Temple. Obama was a brand sold to a naive & gullible public. Calimexico is here, now.
BHO Jonestown on January 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Hey Mexico explodes, we’ll all get a free gardener and housemaid. Win-win.
Those lying bastards in Washington passed an amnesty bill some time back. Remember? Said NO more amnesty and that we’d secure our borders. Remember?
GarandFan on January 28, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Excellent as always. Michelle is really the best news analyst on cable.
That Chicago Thug is really going to have his hands full dealing with problems in our own back yard. We are so screwed.
Zorro on January 28, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Islamo-terrorists from one side and Narco-terrorists from the other.
Obama will write a nice letter to the coca Cartels next.
profitsbeard on January 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM
There have been American citizens vanishing from all over the US and no one in government (i.e., Bush) has thought to actually investigate it. Bush was so involved in the war on terror that he forgot the Southern border. He claims now that the Mexicans (and drug lords) were helping us in the WOT by blocking terrorists from entering the country through our southern borders! That’s crap! If Bush believes this, he is delusional! Mexicans don’t care who comes into our country, especially if they get paid for escorting them in! Corruption is everything in Mexico! Once you understand that simple statement, you will understand the Mexican government and the drug cartels.
Neocon Peg on January 28, 2009 at 10:23 PM
I work in Santa Maria…I agree with you. It has really changed in the past couple of years.
ProudPatriot on January 28, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Well, at least in Texas we have got concealed carry.
Johan Klaus on January 28, 2009 at 10:50 PM
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