Obama administration co-opting media analysts
posted at 10:10 am on January 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Politico warns TV news viewers to take political analysis in the Age of Obama with a five-pound bag of Morton’s Salt. Barack Obama’s right-hand man, chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, holds daily conference calls with three prominent analysts who appear regularly as independent voices in the media’s political coverage. The “17-year-long conference call” provides Obama an excellent opportunity for message control:
Under other circumstances, the morning calls between Emanuel, [James] Carville, [George] Stephanopoulos and [Paul] Begala — pollster Stan Greenberg is another frequent member of the core group, a kind of “fifth Beatle” — might be a Society of Has-Beens, reliving ancient glories from the Little Rock “War Room.”
It was Emanuel’s ascension into Barack Obama’s inner circle — even as Carville and Begala remained closely linked with the defeated Clinton political machine — that saved the group from irrelevance.
The calls “are about what’s happening, what the implications are of what’s happening and what’s going on,” said Emanuel.
For the record, James Carville appears regularly on CNN’s Situation Room. Paul Begala also appears regularly on CNN. George Stephanopoulos has his own ABC show on politics, This Week. To my knowledge, none of them have disclosed this daily tête à tête with the Obama administration senior leadership.
Andrew Malcolm of the LA Times says this is more than old friends reliving glory days:
Many political operatives of both parties participate in such daily or weekly calls to ensure they’re all on the same talking points page and to exchange gossip and tips and anticipate what the opposition is going to say that day.
What’s different in the revelation about this group, however, is that one of them (Emanuel) is a key operative in the current administration with a huge political stake in getting its message out its way, and the other three can go on TV as alleged observers and pass along the talking point line that best benefits their pal Rahm. All free, until now, of any apparent conflict or caveats.
Something to keep in mind the next time you watch George “reporting” on ABC or Carville and Begala “commenting” on CNN or somewhere.
Last April, the Left went nuts when the New York Times reported that the Pentagon had provided briefings for military analysts in the American media for six years without any disclosure from the analysts themselves. Critics claimed that the Bush administration had engaged in a propaganda effort to skew coverage of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to generate support for both. The actual coverage from the media made that claim rather laughable, but the Pentagon suspended the briefings once they were made public.
In that case, though, the briefings got conducted by military experts, not political hacks. The Emanuel conference calls look far more egregious than the military briefings. It looks like a deliberate propaganda campaign, especially since none of the three have bothered to mention their cozy relationship with Obama’s right hand man. Viewers should know that these three commentators check in daily at the White House to see what the story of the day might — or should — be.










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I almost forgot how revolting Carville is! Um, thanks Ed.
clnurnberg on January 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Just another example of the failed policies of Barry’s administration.
Vashta.Nerada on January 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Are you shocked?
Remember the outrage when Bush had that fake news guy promoting his bills?
Now we have entire networks dedicated to the same thing. But it’s all cool. No Biggie.
lorien1973 on January 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Another reason for the GOP not to let Rush dictate policy…or we’d be doing the same thing.
JetBoy on January 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM
They know they screwed up in 1993-94, and see Obama’s first term as a do-over, and a chance to get things like national heath care and increased government control over the private sector done this time by riding in on Obama’s popularity. So it’s no surprise they’re all chatting with each other and with Rahm, though it would be nice if some Republican guest of George S’s show (or the increasingly inconsequential George Will) would call the host out on not disclosing his conference calls with the White House to the public.
jon1979 on January 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM
The mainstream media is and always has been a massive psychological warfare element and propaganda machine for the left. Knowing that fact is the first step in defeating them.
rplat on January 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM
kirsten powers on Fox always seems to have the cliche’s down whenever she appears as an analyst, so somehow the talking points gets disseminated out from this “inncer circle”
karenhasfreedom on January 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Your SO wrong JetPoopBoy, it’s EXACTLY why we SHOULD be supporting Rush and NOT these idiots in our “so-called” RINO Leadership. They are weak, spineless, morons… Guttless, ball-less cowards that can NOT and will NOT stand and fight the Messiah. Rush CAN and WILL fight for Conservatives. So your either a total fool or a troll, either way… Your wrong and RUSH IS RIGHT!
Mark Garnett on January 28, 2009 at 10:22 AM
So, the fish sender makes a conference call?
qestout on January 28, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Isn’t this how they do it in Russia, too? Putin tells the press what to report.
albill on January 28, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Racist! Quit listening to Rush! Lookee over here, we’ve got a nice shiny stimulus for you.
rbj on January 28, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro pioneered the control of news to the masses. This is just taking it to the next level…..
DL13 on January 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM
This is easy – turn off CNN and the major networks. Lobby airports to quit carrying CNN in their terminals. Who advertises on these networks? Dry up their ad venue by changing purchasing habits and not using their products. If they want to play dirty, show that we can too. Start with the airports in getting rid of CNN.
suzyk on January 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Craig Crawford on the First Seven Days of Obama Administration is everything fixed yet?
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/01/craig-crawford-i-fav-seven-days-in-are.html
Dr Evil on January 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM
I don’t like the way this Obama guy is shaping up. Well educated, well spoken, but no horse sense. Spending all this money on “Acorn” type programs will accellerate the demise of the US.
If he was smart, he would follow the tried and true stimulous plan which is tax cuts.
The sooner he figures out that there are such a thing as worthless shmucks in this country, maybe then he will be able to make decent decisions. This fantacy that everyone should be a winner makes for good gab, but pi$$ poor policy.
If shmucks want to be winners, they must give the effort to diserve it. Giving them free money and a slap on the back is like giving a junkie a sack of “H” and congradulating him on his excellent behavior.
If Obama wants to elevate the shmucks. The best way to get it done is a kick in the butt, not a slap on the back. Until they step up and take responsibility for their own lives and inciome, they will remain flunkies on the dola.
saiga on January 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM
George Orwell knew what he was talking about
notagool on January 28, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Domestically, this is a third Clinton term. On foreign policy, it is the second Carter term.
Wethal on January 28, 2009 at 10:30 AM
In a totally unrelated story, Netflix has reported phenomenal growth since last November.
Vashta.Nerada on January 28, 2009 at 10:31 AM
The Republicans could stop this in a hurry by hollering loud and proud to Gibbs or challenge the three wise men directly. They need ask only one question: which three non-Democrats in the media does the WH conference with daily? That should do it. Exposure would at least blunt the fluff coming from these three.
volnation on January 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM
So, Emmanuel is dealing out talking points directly to his legions? Nice. Guess the “message” is less filtered that way…everybody on the same sheet of music, in tune, right note…
Now, you really didn’t expect the likes of Carville, or Begalla or Snuffleupagus to come forward and admit any of this on their own, did you? What reality do you live in if you did indeed think they would?
What’s the official “mantra” of the Obama administration and the Dem Congress?
Oh, yeah, “Honest leadership. Open Government.”
I can understand a bit of atrophy of the message and loss of direction from the message in any Administration…it happens, after a few years, some of the luster comes off the lily, so to speak…but, folks, and this is to be made perfectly clear (to borrow from Nixon) …the Obama Administration is EIGHT DAYS old…a bit early to be getting so far afield of the message, don’cha think?
Or, is it all part of a concerted plan, to dupe the Amnerican people, fix blame on the Republicans and deflect criticism so that the Obamaniacs can install several levels of government control over your lives such that it will take decades to deal with the Gordian Knot they are tying up on Capital Hill and down the street at the White House, and Carville, Begalla, and Stephanopoulos et al., are all willing cadres?
Part of me says it is just stupidity and too many in the Administration from Illinois/Chicago politics…but a larger part says none of this is error, an oversight, or an honest mistake…it is all preplanned, intentional, and if this is the “Change” all you folks voted for…thanks for being a major part of the problem.
coldwarrior on January 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM
CALL ! CALL ! CALL !
E-MAIL ! E-MAIL ! E-MAIL !
GET LOUD AND IN THIER FACES !
Make the PHONE LINES MELT !
FLOOD THIER OFFICERS WITH CALLS !
SUPPORT RUSH !!!
Make what we did on Illegal Immigration Bill pale in comparison, SHOW THEM HOW PISSED OFF WE ARE !!!
DO IT NOW ! DO IT NOT !
BLOW THE DOORS OFF THE RINO’S !!!
Mark Garnett on January 28, 2009 at 10:34 AM
How can it be a deliberate propaganda campaign if its been going on before any of them had left government for media? I mean sure, there are conflicts of interest abound and there needs to be full disclosure involving those guys…but i cant see it as deliberate propaganda if the current circumstances were not even a thought when these guys got started.
ernesto on January 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Obama and co. do NOT have the country’s best interest at heart…they are not “men of good will” and do not want to see America as a top international super power ever again. This is par for the course. They wish to see America leveled on the playing friend. This is calculated. This is our end. Thanks, idiots, for voting for personal peace and affluence again and again and again and again, thinking only of your own belly and little for the security of the world and our progeny. I cry for our country these days…
Mommypundit on January 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Our independent press.
Johan Klaus on January 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM
We support Obama, heck, we love the guy just as much as anybody else. We just don’t support his policies. Obama is a success, his policies are the failure.
Republicans don’t get elected by acting like Democrats.
If Rush was dictating policy we wouldn’t have to worry that our Republican leadership would be voting for the stimulus package or the bailout back in October 2008 when it mattered. Oh if Rush WAS dictating policy for the Republican Party.
Republicans lost in 2006 and 2008 because they were Democrats-lite. If the Republican party is to have any significance in politics, it must provide a distinct policy alternative to big state liberalism.
http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1964&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Angry Dumbo on January 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM
After all, it is just talking points.
Johan Klaus on January 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
and America would reelect Obama for all this?
Phoenician on January 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I keep fantasizing about a military takeover in Washington. I know it’s wrong, but it would be the only possible course of action that makes sense to me anymore. The US military has provided this country and others a real sense of security and forward movement towards liberty and away from the trap of Islam. It has acted for the most part outside of the realm of affirmative action, PC driven and mad science since it exists in harm’s way and has needs to survive. The US military has developed from an initial purpose to break things and kill enemies to a peace keeping force and occupational system of justice that is the most successful in history. The best and brightest fill its ranks, and even this amazing institution is under attack to lower the bar and minimalize its effectiveness.
I have lost total faith in the political system that has brought us this current administration along with the pathetic, pwned Republicans that line up to provide sacrifices at the alter of the new emperor god. This nation has never been further away from the design of its founders, and is being placed in harms way to satisfy those that wish it to be destroyed for personal and political gain.
Hening on January 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
The light off Carville’s head is causing global warming.
It’s a perfect storm, and 2012 the Mayan calendar ends, scientists predict massive solar flares, and Baracky will be made emperor for life. Can’t wait, might not even have to use a microwave to make the popcorn.
kirkill on January 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Democrats will find out soon enough that it’s easier to work to attain power than it is to keep it. While I don’t think that Democrats will lose either branch of congress in 2010 – they’re doing a good job of setting themselves up (as is Obama) to take a thumping when the time comes. I do believe that the Democrats policies aren’t nearly as popular with the majority of Americans as they think, which is why the Stim bill is getting so much pushback from an essentially irrelevant party.
volnation on January 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM
According to Websters, the N word is defined as meaning ‘tool’, so I guess it would be accurate to call the Obama News boys the Network News Niggas. :oP
DannoJyd on January 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM
If any of the organizations in question were legitimate news operations all involved would be abruptly terminated.
Sheerq on January 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Umm… have you listened to Rush? McCain? Bush?
Do you really think we are running a risk of an overly coordinated message between Rush and recent GOP leadership?
On topic, this really stinks. Yes it is an ongoing relationship, that started before the current admin… but does anybody think that if, for example, Cheney had kept giving daily briefings to his former colleagues at Halliburton while serving in D.C. it would have been ok?
cs89 on January 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM
I agree with the sentiment, but not the method.
Johan Klaus on January 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM
What media bias???
This is how it is supposed to be done.Our Paparazzi President has no intention of letting his sheep in the media stray from the flock:
Barack Obama plans a ‘paparazzi presidency’ to speak directly to voters
Barack Obama plans to cash in on his celebrity status and create what is being called a “paparazzi presidency”, using appearances and interviews in glossy magazines to speak directly to voters.
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Last Updated: 1:12PM GMT 17 Jan 2009
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4277442/Barack-Obama-plans-a-paparazzi-presidency-to-speak-directly-to-voters.html
Got to control the message.Because everyone knows how informed People magazine and Cosmopolitan is,they will surely ask the hard questions and get down to the “truth” of the issues.
Control the message….Control the message…Control the message…you are getting very sleepy….you will do as I say……..
Reference: Pravda
“Yes We Can”!!!
Baxter Greene on January 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM
So, this is saying that they are controlling parts of the media with malice and deliberate evil? A cabal it sounds!! Obama should be ashamed and Emmanuel is a snake in the grass.
jeanie on January 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Where am I?
Johan Klaus on January 28, 2009 at 10:49 AM
The Soviet Union had a name for this, I think it was PRAVDA.
“A well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people.”
“A well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people.”
Above couple of quotes from Madison:
What we have now is a one sided partisan press that is free. But what is needed is alternative voices. A press that is interested in truth, not DNC talking points. Now we know where they get the talking points from a disgruntled reporter, moral of the story, don’t leave anyone out.
tarpon on January 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
I’m short on methods and willing to work towards an alternative that would be effective. Something has got to give.
Hening on January 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
This is actually the first term of the George McGovern administration.
Percy_Peabody on January 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
- Staff appointments all are proven hacks.
- Senate and the House with a majority.
- Bailout money going to ACORN -> money eventually goes to funding democrat campaigns.
- Supreme Court to become a majority liberal with new appointments.
- MSM is now an arm to the government.
Proper checks and balances are now a thing of the past.
I’m afraid this is the end of the great democracy experiment in the U.S.
God bless America with repentance.
shick on January 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
In America,watching the democrats do everything they can to turn us into Cuba.
Baxter Greene on January 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I submit to you that it was his intention to pour more money into ACORN. He has a long relationship with them, remember?
No doubt the man is smart, but being smart doesn’t mean he agrees with the philosophy of tax cuts.
Personally, I think that he is on the side of the worthless schmucks. He and we do not share the same view of the world at all.
Perhaps Mr. Obama is trying to paraphrase Stalin’s old line, religion is the opium of the masses, into pork is the opium of the moochers – or something like that – I’m no poet.
He wants to make sure that the schmucks are beholden to him and his socialist creed. What better way to do it than to give them lots and lots of money.
I invoke turfmann’s razor: never ascribe to stupidity what can be just as easily ascribed to malice.
I smell revolution. Anyone else?
turfmann on January 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Obama needs to have his clay feet held to the fire for this one.
jeanie on January 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Nothing new here. Ever since GWB picked Cheney as VP, Rush has made sound collages of MSM folks repeating the exact same talking points, in that case the word “gravitas.” It’s almost as if the DNC can program directly into teleprompters.
TugboatPhil on January 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Be careful what you say. Our government is now looking for nay sayers.
shick on January 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM
What I would like to know is how long these conference calls have been going on for.
All three “analysts” involved should be totally discredited for not disclosing these meetings, especially, if this has been going pre-election.
batter on January 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Way ahead of you. I made the mistake of flipping to ABC News the day after the election, and Stephanopolous and Charlie Gibson were positively giddy. No attempt to even mask their obvious Obamour. And of course during the campaign they did everything in their power to cheerlead Obama and tear down his opponents. And now this revelation, which is really no surprise.
Anybody know what the media’s approval ratings look like these days?
Jim Treacher on January 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Obama: America’s Trudeau
In canada we had a guy name Trudeau- an absolute scum with no scruples, a high IQ, great media appeal, and a far left agenda. The media loved him before, during, and after his election to the point where speaking ill of the dictator is still practically a national crime in Canada.
During his reign he:
1- fostered both Quebec and Alberta alienation
2- ran the federal deficit up 1,100%
3- destroyed the military
4- made the national police a part of the national government – thereby weakening the protections offered by both provincial and individual rights
5- neutered Canada as a world influencer
6- made anti-americanism a popular Canadian pre-occupation while propping up his friends and allies- for example he championed vacationing in Cuba as building solidarity against American ambitions.
Want some advice? impeach your sob before the people he fronts for can do irreparable damage.
Paul Murphy on January 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM
I’m sure you’d say the same thing if they were Republicans.
What, you think they’re comparing theories about Lost?
Jim Treacher on January 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM
We are working the resistance backasswards and are wasting our efforts on changing the GOP from the top down. We need to be working from the bottom up. School boards, commissioners, town mayors, state reps, on up to the senate.
The carpetbaggers in power will not fight and will not listen so it’s time to send the carpetbaggers packing.
Limerick on January 28, 2009 at 11:09 AM
We are collectively sleeping, but some are waking up. The water is getting warm for some frogs, that is why Obama needs to tell some other frogs that the water is just fine (cool in fact), so as to marginalize the warm water frogs. We need to alert the frogs, the water isn’t getting any cooler and if we don’t act soon we will ALL be cooked.
In short I am hopeful that stopping this stimulus will be the first step of a new rejuvenated, united Republican Party. A party united by the principles of limited government.
Yes we can. ; ))
Angry Dumbo on January 28, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Bravo!
Johan Klaus on January 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM
The unfortunate part of turning off ABC, CNN etc is that large numbers of American voters don’t realize they are being manipulated. I suspect they’d be very angry if they knew. One of the much watched TV stations needs to get this information out and them interview these traitors. And, yes, I chose that word deliberately.
jeanie on January 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Obama and his administration … saturated with crooks, radicals and phonies. It will fail, it will fall, and when it does I hope it doesn’t take us with it
darwin on January 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Carville = Young Gollum
gman43 on January 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Trudeau? Wasn’t he the guy who wrote “Doonesbury?” /s
You are absolutely correct, Trudeau worked hard at being “cool.” He was a regular at Studio 54, wore all those wonderful 70′s fashions…was charismatic, a good friend to the Left, in Canada and across the globe, justified everything he did for the “greater good” of Canada…aroused passionate reactions…his supporters constantly praised his “superior” intellect..yet he alone was responsible for taking government away from Canadians and putting all the power in Ottawa. And Canada today, 20-30 years after Trudeau left the scene is still trying to untie all the knots and undo the mess he left behind.
America…take a look at Trudeau’s Canada…and then take a good hard honest look at Obama…notice the similarities yet? If not? Why not?
coldwarrior on January 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Interesting!
davenp35 on January 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I’ve never considered Carville and Begala “independent analysts”. They’ve always been partisan hacks.
But, even though everyone knows he’s in the tank, isn’t Stephanopoulos supposed to be a “news guy” now?
CP on January 28, 2009 at 11:18 AM
rvastar on January 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
The problem, as I see it, it not that they are far left by inclination but that they are getting and using daily propaganda from the White House. This may or may not be truthful or in the country’s best interests. It is designed to keep the American public conned, scammed, indoctrinated(pick your own word). If this has Obama’s sanction, and it must, his is not an administration to be trusted now or ever.
jeanie on January 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM
The way to challenge Obama (or any other liberal for that fact) is not by judging the content of his heart, but the content of his mind.
Conservative ideas work and stand the test of time. Hard times call for proven ideas, not continued speculation and hope.
Angry Dumbo on January 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Further evidence the media is no longer merely “biased”.
The media is now “corrupt” like Organized Crime in the 1920s.
faraway on January 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Don’t forget how crazy the left went when they heard Mary Matalin had the audacity to tell Scooter Libby that Tim Russert would give him a fair chance to tell his story about Valerie Plame.
For that, they said Russert was Cheney’s boy.
I’m sure things are much different for Emmanuel and George.
MayBee on January 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Meet the New Boss Same As The Old Boss…No I won’t Be Fooled Again.
Dr Evil on January 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM
I had the same thought, minus the ‘young’.
oldleprechaun on January 28, 2009 at 11:59 AM
but but but but – Bush lied and people died! Wait, I forget, what are we talking about?
JeffinOrlando on January 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Of course they’re discussing the issues of the day, but to act as if this is a concerted effort by a new administration to propagandize ignores the fact that this little conference call had been in place for some time. And just because andy card didnt have a hotline to sean hannity doesnt mean that hannity’s analysis didnt 10 times out of 10 line up with the recommended administration frame…these things are part of politics.
ernesto on January 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Boy…and I thought my outrage meter had been busted by these people.
We need to find out how long this has been going on. There is obvious evidence that Emanuel worked closely with Pelosi after the 2004 elections to undermine President Bush and the House Republicans at every turn. If they had in-house media working for them and coordinating the “Bush lied” and “Culture of Corruption” messages, this is really beyond anything we have seen in modern politics. That, in itself, is bad enough — but to have Emanuel now basically running the country (you don’t REALLY think Barack Obama is running it, now, do you?) and continuing this manipulation of the media is downright frightening.
rockmom on January 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Andy Card wasn’t running the country. And Hannity wasn’t pretending to be a nonpartisan “analyst” on TV shows and in speeches. I used to belong to an organization that paid Paul Begala $25,000 to give an objective, nonpartisan speech about the 2008 elections. Now we know he got his words directly from Rahm Emanuel, while Emanuel was running the DCCC. If you can’t see the quantitaive difference there — well, you must be a liberal!
rockmom on January 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Ah! It’s cost-saving.
See, now they won’t need guys like Winston Smith to rewrite the story later.
PaddyJ on January 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM
George Stephanopoulos?
Geez, I can see the other mutts, but doesn’t George Stephanopoulos have at least a minimal responsibility to portray at least the semblance of independence?
The little Greek boy is just pathetic.
pabarge on January 28, 2009 at 12:26 PM
The Good News less and less Americans are watching Network or Cable News for information…New Media pulling out in front.
Dr Evil on January 28, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I would have been shocked if this Democrat mind-meld did not occur. Limbaugh has a standing gag on the uniformity of the language of the talking heads, i.e. the gravitas that Cheney brought to the Bush ticket.
The guy that I want to follow in the Obama administration is David Axelrod. What is that guy doing in WH. It seems that he has dodged the ‘genius’ classification that Carville garnered during the Clinton years and the ‘evil genius’ appellation that was Karl Rove’s. Axelrod is The Invisible Man and that concerns me.
thegreatbeast on January 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM
And that’s really just more bad news. The new media consists of much more than just conservative websites and blogs like this one.
Hot Air is just a spec in the liberal blogosphere.
shick on January 28, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Helped you out a little there.
cs89 on January 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Wow. Kind of like the “Townhall” list from Daily Kos, TPM, and FireDogLake, but relevant.
Stovepipe the talking points and everyone’s on the same page.
gabriel sutherland on January 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Ed you’re dismissal of the Pentagon Propaganda story shows your have zero intellectual or journalistic integrity yourself. They weren’t “military experts” they were military experts who were willing to parrot Bush Administration spin on the war, even contradicting themselves. They were also paid hacks from military contracting firms. I’m not saying Obama is doing something Bush didn’t. But you seem to be saying that he is….such malarkey.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM
DeathToMediaHacks on January 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Hack, were they military experts or not?
You’re “contradicting yourself.”
cs89 on January 28, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Libertarian Bill Steigerwald has an interview with Bernard Goldberg that explores how liberals are in love with Obama.
onlineanalyst on January 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM
That’s just it, it doesn’t need to be a concerted effort. It’s SOP.
Jim Treacher on January 28, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Why start now?
Jim Treacher on January 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Its like stalin has returned
Except he is Black..
or like kim il sung has been raised from the DEAD
and now runs the White house..
Its honestly becomming impossible to determine if
I live in the USA
or NORTH KOREA..
jcila on January 28, 2009 at 1:25 PM
They were military experts, but these guys are experts on politics. The question isn’t whether they were knowledgable, the issue is that they were told what to say by the Pentagon and they said it. Their “expertise” didn’t inform their opinions, it was used to legitimize Bush Administration Propoganda or to legitimize the corporations who paid them to advertise for them. By calling them “military experts” it assumes they are independent thinkers. They weren’t and they sold the case to war over and over.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 28, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Easy now. You are on a functioning electric grid, right?
(Fond memories of Rumsfeld’s image of N./S. Korea at night).
cs89 on January 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM
And now for the larger point (let’s back up slowly, so the forest comes into view and not just this tree)….
Bush shouldn’t have done that. It came out. There was outrage. It stopped.
Now that Emanuel/Obama is doing it, it’s okay. It’s “politics as usual.”
That’s the lesson to take home today, got it?
cs89 on January 28, 2009 at 1:38 PM
I am anxiously awaiting the airplanes dumping out their propaganda fliers praising Obama.
I do hope that when they dump these fliers that they attach a stimulus check with each one.
Badger40 on January 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM
DtoMH:
You don’t want Pentagon people presenting military information? Who do you want to serve as the “experts”–HUD bureaucrats? Department of the Interior?
Begala, Carville, and Stephanopoulis are not objective. They are partisan hacks of the Dems, the first two being especially viscious. Axelrod is also worrisome. I don’t think that there is an ethical bone in his body when it comes to spinning the message. He is Mr. Astroturf himself. Emanuel is the Enforcer. He plays dirty and for keeps.
onlineanalyst on January 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Anyone who pays attention to those three partisan hacks deserves to be lied to. They have lied their way into CNN and ABC and continue as the propagana arm of the Anointed One and his puppeteer Rham Emanual and Georg Soros.
Amazed on January 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Sorry I forgot to add Axelrod to that list. He is in charge of having Deval Patrick trot out the trial balloon, modifying it to satisfy the focus group and then having 0bama spout the sanitized version.
Amazed on January 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Sounds to me like someone needs to use the freedom of information act and get any transcripts available for these calls…
In lieu of that, at least get the telephone log records proving their occurance…
Shouldn’t be hard, really; from the most transparent administration EVAH!
RocketmanBob on January 28, 2009 at 3:03 PM
George “tears of a clown” Stephanopoulos
“We watched everything and George was still doing all the anchoring for ABC and as soon as Beyonce said “At Last…” George called me at home and he went, “Honey?” and I said “I know!” and we both started crying. ”
Nice to know that Stephanopoulos has now been exposed as a member of The Comintern. I’m surprised he didn’t break into L’Internationale while the tears were flowing.
The liberal media has gone all in and are totally invested no matter what the outcome of this administration. The media feels they have a special position at the front of the vangard…modern day Jack Reeds.
But like Reed nearly 100 years earlier, the media fails to recognize that they are mere participants in one of the largest bubbles in modern political history. Like all bubbles, they tend not to end well (Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds)
No matter how much helium the media injects into this administration it will begin to loose altitude at some point. I suspect sooner rather than later. At that point, the media will need to decide if they want to be at all relevant and have a future. At some point, the business of news should have a corrective influence.
“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
moxie_neanderthal on January 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM
The sad thing is that I kind of always assumed this was going on anyway.
RightWinged on January 28, 2009 at 5:00 PM
There’s nothing wrond necessarily about the military taking over and announcing martial law in Washington IF Obama and Congress keep pissing on the Constitution.
The military ultimately has loyalty to the Constitution.
I wouldn’t rule it out happening or a Red State Rebellion before 2040.
Watch the economy and if it implodes or hyper-inflation kicks in, the military may have to jump in similar to what you see in other countries who destroy their economoy with their governmnet.
Sapwolf on January 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I was thinking Mouth of Sauron.
Lily on January 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM
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