Gallup: Just seven states left where GOP leads in party ID
posted at 9:50 pm on January 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, Nebraska, Kansas, and Alabama, and the last two are barely red. Total combined electoral votes: 35. The news isn’t quite as dismal as it seems — Texas is technically a blue state by this measure, even though it’s reliably red at election time — but eyeball the map at the link and note how many southern states are suddenly leaning Democratic. Jay Cost has a long, thoughtful post on how Republicans have traditionally overcome the ID advantage (hint: superior turnout and an uneasy coalition in the broad Democratic base), but toss a galvanizing figure like The One into the mix and it becomes a lot harder to pull off.
Cost’s other big point is that partisan trends can shift very rapidly, so if the crap sandwich is as crappy as we think, the map will surely be redder by 2012. Even so, I don’t envy whoever’s tasked with dethroning the Messiah. Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?
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Is it REALLY a Republican vs. Democrat thing? Isn’t it more like Capitalist vs. Socialist?
Star20 on January 28, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Louisiana has a higher number of registered democrats for two reasons:
New Orleans has always been a Democratic stronghold and I expect it to continue to be one. Even with Joe Cao becoming the first Republican since Reconstruction to represent the city in the US Congress, I doubt he’ll win reelection. Then again, that might change if Lakeview and parts of Jefferson Parish may be included in the district after the 2010 Census.
The Long legacy, which is really with most of the older demographic, has had an impact on the state. Many think he was a great governor but had some extreme liberal policies. Because of his improvments to LSU and the football team, his legacy proabably won’t ever tarnish for generations to come.
Republicans continue to do well in this state. Most of our congressional delegation is Republican. Bobby Jindal enjoys high approval ratings among all Louisianians regardless of party affiliation. Louisiana also had the highest margin of victory for McCain next to Utah.
Don Cazayoux, a democrat, won the sixth district (Baton Rouge) in a special election after Richard Baker retired. The district was Republican for two decades. Pundits claimed that Louisiana Republican stongholds were being lost to Democrats. They ignored the fact that people just didn’t like Woody Jenkins, who ran against Cazayoux.
Cazayoux lost an election bid to Bill Cassidy, a Republican state senator. He only served seven months as a Congressman.
Lay-Z on January 28, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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Shouldn’t one do as one’s told to?
No! Let the moment enfold you.
Grab up your one golden chance.
Benny and Noneya, life is such romance.
Give the world a sweeping glace-
Let it set your souls a-dancing
Night and day!
Vivez!
PercyB on January 28, 2009 at 10:46 PM
It’s numbers like that that led to Carter’s victory.
And then…
snickelfritz on January 28, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Wow..no wonder yer so screwed up….as a card carrying Femi-somthing…yer naturally hateful of men…but as a dedicated…(edited to prevent banning)…yer instinct is to detest ‘breeders’…
So, your support group consists of…angry, bitter…(edited to avoid banning), and SmakTards like
Alphie…I mean Benny??Wow…good luck with that…
BigWyo on January 28, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Translation – all conservatives are uneducated, unsophisticated, toothless, gun-toting, bible+cousin-thumping, illiterate, hicks.
With this attitude, sooner or later, your own will figure out that your party stands for modern day serfdom. You’re “for the people” and I’m the queen, er Marie of Romania.
Entelechy on January 28, 2009 at 10:48 PM
OK, let’s circle the wagons around our ideals. We can only go up from here.
DL13 on January 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Hear, hear! That’s the Democrats: all the crocodile tears of love for “the people” while holding “the people” in utter contempt. That charade wont go on forever.
ddrintn on January 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Ive lived in KY my whole life and its pretty much accepted fact that the VAST majority of people are registered Dems but a VERY large % of those registered Dems are not actually Dems. They vote Republican. Hell, my father is a registered Dem but has never voted for a Dem. So its not that bad, at least in KY
UKFB2 on January 28, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Why?
Not that I agree, but I assume you include Bill Clinton in the ‘and onward’ part of that as well, no?
And they love it when their blue masters call them that too…the kick in the nose may make them more pliable in the end too.
AUINSC on January 28, 2009 at 10:53 PM
All it really takes though is a Democratic screw-up. They’ve had the luxury of being the noisy disloyal opposition for so long that it’s understandable they’d now be in favor, really. I’ve been through quite a lot of these massive and probably permanent “re-alignments” already, and I’m not all that old.
ddrintn on January 28, 2009 at 10:55 PM
This is complete BS. The Commonwealth of KY is not blue. They’ve over-sampled in the democratic counties.
cryptojunkie on January 28, 2009 at 10:55 PM
People are by nature fickle, and it is easy to persuade them of something, but difficult to keep them persuaded.
- Niccolo Machiavelli
MB4 on January 28, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Those remaining states are just “middle of nowhere” red states. No real non-agricultral industry to speak of, sold out to some Third World country, or a low population density state.
sethstorm on January 28, 2009 at 10:43 PM
You did your best to keep your pinkies in the air when you typed that, didn’t you?
Bishop on January 28, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Pretty much. Too many Republicans have gone right along with socialist legislation.
MadisonConservative on January 28, 2009 at 11:05 PM
What did Mitt say about “how Utah goes, there goes the nation”?
Tzetzes on January 28, 2009 at 11:06 PM
The idiots running the RNC are so inept that they will probably allow themselves to be blamed when the stimulus package falls apart.
WisCon on January 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM
The novelty wears off. Obama has 4 years, 4 years is a long time to have campaing promises unfulfilled. After 4 years of just speeches and symbolic executive orders that change nothing his enthusiatic supporters that swung a nation (and Bush) are all that excited. Do you think he can pull if off again? I think the media coverage will look alot different come 2011. The NYT and LAT will be all but irrelevant. And the MSM cannot suck up to him. Conservatives of all stripes will be stripping away the MSM’s credibility.
Remember when we were having discussion about how conservatives were going to use the new media effectively?
Well we are seeing the evolution of that process right now. Pre-internet, pre-bloggers, the stimulus bill would have already been passed with out so much as a phone call to Republicans. An interesting observation of nation-states and information: When information is widespread and literacy is high the people tend to enjoy more freedom and less tyrannical government. We are seeing that happen right happen right now. America is not a country controlled by the Los Angeles and New York Times. Ironically I think this next 4 years will be the most transparent ever. Obama’s success at using new media/technology will shine more light on his administration than any in history.
Theworldisnotenough on January 28, 2009 at 11:20 PM
No. While I have seeen plenty of those in my own state, I doubt they are by any means conservative. Of course, that is due to using the Schumpeter excuse and allowing them to die off.
The ones of today are ones who thought themselves as bound to the masters of the universe found at Wall Street. They have no problem with using trade to fight a cold war with their own people. They have no issue if entire states go under and are replaced with Third World influence or nothing at all(and hoping they collapse, going red). They no longer have any place at Main Street, as it is something they do not represent.
Then why did it happen the other way around? Main Street here seems to have been eviscerated by Wall Street. Only now does Wall Street and its benefactors feel pain. They are not the masters of the universe, only people who want the masses to pay for their mistakes.
Perhaps you might want to work on selling it to those who have had enough with the GOP ripping out their working livelihood. Not merely a union-bound livelihood, but one of both union and nonunion livelihoods.
The good news:
No place is safe, even those enclaves that are nearby those Western “Red States”. So much for trying to hide in Galt’s Gulch – the State has found them.
Think of that next time one of your own tries to help his friends in Wall Street. It will backfire.
sethstorm on January 28, 2009 at 11:23 PM
The House Republicans set a good precedent today, and more states will turn redder in 2010.
chunderroad on January 28, 2009 at 11:30 PM
No, I type with them down. What were you implying?
I’m only saying that those states are of a low population or are likely to have a “Senator from Honda”.
sethstorm on January 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM
I would not worry about unseating Obama at this stage. Concentrate locally. I would not be surprised if Republicans did well in state elections where Democratic leaders have let down voters or are involved in scandals. Build from the ground up and learn what gets votes. The same tired old formulas won’t work in the current climate anyway.
lexhamfox on January 28, 2009 at 11:37 PM
AZ is shown as “even”, but we have a GOP governor, a GOP-dominated legislature, two GOP senators.
jgapinoy on January 28, 2009 at 11:37 PM
OK, we have Wall Street (which is American, and largely Democrat, by the way) and “Senator from Honda”. What’s true-blue American in your view? The good ol’ UAW, maybe?
ddrintn on January 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM
The one thing that Obama had going for him that no other president in history ever had, was that the old print and TV media went all in for him. They never had this kind of a love affair with Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, or even JFK. The media coverage from magazines, to newpapers, to television was just completely lopsided.
paulsur on January 28, 2009 at 11:39 PM
This does not surprise me, because I registered as an Independent yesterday after they confirmed Geithner as treasury secretary.
JeffinSac on January 28, 2009 at 11:40 PM
No, I type with them down. What were you implying?
That you are an elitist who regularly refers to midland states as “flyover country, or in your words “middle of nowhere” states.
Bishop on January 28, 2009 at 11:40 PM
It all comes down to who gives out the most goodies from the public treasury. The American people nowadays don’t seem to tire of yelling “Gimme, gimme!”
That’s how we know it’s the beginning of the end for this Constitutional Republic.
newton on January 28, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I think the GOP deserves this for rejecting the Ron Paul wing of the party.
MedSchoolCatholic on January 28, 2009 at 11:44 PM
FIFY.
newton on January 28, 2009 at 11:45 PM
By telling the truth consistently, and acting with courage in the face of pragmatic temptation to sell out your principles. The American people are ready to be free, but the current crop of compromisers in the GOP will not deliver it unless their feet are held to the fire by every single person who still wants this country to be what it once was.
JDPerren on January 28, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Anyone who takes “Congressman Stormfront” seriously does not deserve to be taken seriously.
newton on January 28, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Note to Sarah Palin: This is what a “community organizer” does. And that fact that the Republican Party didn’t know that speaks volumes.
Mal Carne on January 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Well, I live in that proverbial “flyover country”. I just don’t live in those “red states”.
Living in the Rust Belt is like living in the middle of absolute nowhere – the only thing you get is people leaving and people who want to collapse those states.
sethstorm on January 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
I think the GOP deserves this for rejecting the Ron Paul wing of the party.
MedSchoolCatholic on January 28, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Yah, the GOP is a lesser party for not having included the UFO chasers and Bigfoot hunters.
Bishop on January 28, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Threads like this are nothing more than AP’s way of masturbating when his wrist gets tired
They’re troll magnets, making any serious discussion impossible. This one has most of the Usual A++holes, who get off gloating over Nothing
Obama will fail; his policies will fail; the Demo Congress will fail;
When they do, the colors change; Big Woop
Janos Hunyadi on January 28, 2009 at 11:54 PM
sethstorm on January 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Perhaps if less people who lived there referred to their states as the “middle of nowhere”, there might be more civic pride to do something about all that rust-beltyness.
Bishop on January 28, 2009 at 11:55 PM
It’s good to live in Nebraska.
Yakko77 on January 29, 2009 at 12:06 AM
People who register Democrat are people who don’t know what the Democrat party stands for. One presumes they join because their friends joined, or because some politician they like is a Democrat. I imagine that at election time, they vote for who they like, because they certainly don’t understand the issues. (If they understood, surely they would register Republican.) We, of course, understand what’s going on and we vote Republican.
We need to stop punishing our egos for losing this last election. Face it, McCain was not the kind of candidate anybody wants to vote for. Obama had a rock star candidacy. The election does not signal the end of freedom, it’s just a sign that we need to get on the ball and make sure we continue fielding good candidates.
joe_doufu on January 29, 2009 at 12:08 AM
What are you talking about? UFO chasers? Only a very small minority of Ron Paul supporters are conspiracy theorists. In contrast, you would find more Republicans who still think Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and that there were actually WMDs in Iraq. So, who’s delusional? Answer: Bush apologists.
MedSchoolCatholic on January 29, 2009 at 12:08 AM
At this point in time, this poll means absolutely nothing.
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 12:10 AM
I agree. After today, I’m actually encouraged with the group of young GOPers. I live in the district just south of Boehner, and I think he’s kind of a tool–but consider some of those rising in the ranks. Cantor from VA, Pence from IN, that dynamite guy from Wisconsin (Paul Ryan?), Michelle Bachman from MN, Thad McCotter from Michigan. Personally, I’m fired up about Ohio’s Voinovich retiring from the Senate so that Rob Portman can run in his place. I think we have some solid people, while the Dems have a cult figure backed up by a cast of clowns.
Look, we can’t do anything about the 35% of the country who will sprint off a cliff with Obama. The battle is for the middle third.
In the coming months, I ask that you wonderful HA’ers chat up those solid leaders who are doing some good things. I appreciate hearing about good people. I think we’ll be less likely to end up with a lousy choice in 2012 if we have the right men and women being encouraged to step forward and lead.
Obama is a fad, and he’s buying votes with cotton candy solutions. In fact, I see Obama as Henry Potter in It’s a Wonderful Life. And as George Bailey told a lobby full of distraught and fearful depositors, Can’t you understand what’s happening here? Don’t you see what’s happening? Potter isn’t selling. Potter’s buying! And why? Because we’re panicking and he’s not. That’s why. He’s picking up some bargains. Now, we can get through this thing all right. We’ve got to stick together, though. We’ve got to have faith in each other.
Obama isn’t this country’s answer. We are. We had a good day today. Let’s start stringing a number of them together.
BuckeyeSam on January 29, 2009 at 12:11 AM
To some extent you are correct, but I say it to separate it from the rest of the Midwest. It is the heavily industrial part that gave the opportunity to those of all backgrounds.
The most that the area has seen is attacks from those who were jealous of the times that we were prosperous. Now that has evolved to people just hating the area. They just want to see the states implode that don’t go their way.
I’d rather be the one that stays and makes sure we aren’t marginalized.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Galvanizing now, maybe. But there are f-ups in our future of a proportion we can’t even imagine, which will take place as a result of the fact that Obama isn’t ready for prime time but
doesn’t know itforgot it. Then, instead of it being a case of tossing a galvanizing figure into the mix, it’ll be like that same figure having been caught peeing in the punch-bowl.Mmm, yeah. I’m no artful prime minister, but I would think that “events” could even happen to someone who only thinks he’s a statesman.
smellthecoffee on January 29, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Oklahoma is leaning Democrat? Since when? Oklahoma is probably the most solidly conservative state in the country. I call B.S. on this poll. Also, it’s pretty much an oversimplification to poll people simply on party affiliation, esp. since a lot of people don’t bother to identify one way or the other anyway. But in traditionally blue collar states like PA, voters might be registered as Democrats, but their values are more in line with Republicans. The same goes for the south where registering Democrat is mainly a matter of tradition. I’m from the north but I now live in Arkansas and everyone I know is a Democrat but we are very closely aligned in our viewpoints on most issues (as a matter of fact, I think this is the most libertarian state I’ve ever lived in).
Anyway, I would expect the map to look more blue than red given a radically left-wing candidate won the election. Gallup is kind of stating the obvious here, OR they’re betraying their own bias by trying to make their map look bluer than the actual electoral map. People might identify with the Democrats NOW because they are suffering from eight years of media-fueled Bush malaise and are intoxicated by The One’s celebrity. In four years, when they’re left with nothing but a thread of hope and a little bit of change in their pockets, the map is likely to look a lot different. The only people who really care about party affiliations are hard-core rank and file like us, and insular partisans in the media and in Washington. The great majority of Americans are not as interested in labeling themselves; they’re interested in having representatives and leaders who actually do a good job of what they’re elected to do. That being said, it’s Obama’s map to lose.
NoLeftTurn on January 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Michelle said “Melt the phones,” so I called my congressman Eric Cantor. The staffer that answered the phone assured me that he was on the case. I felt a little silly because I realized I was just preaching to the choir. Better that than the feelings I would have been having if I lived in Fairfax rather than Richmond.
smellthecoffee on January 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Like i stated
this is purley because the republicans
went on a spending spree with our childrens futures
the republicans REFUSED to EVEN order to Guard on wallstreet to check on the bernie madoffs
Hell it probably was some mafia guy who was smart enought to not uise his heal name when applying for the job.
The demorats destroyed the banking system by forcing ALL the banks to loan money to
People with no id, no ss number and all had the same last name sheesh and they cant figure otu why the entire system melted down..
I think what is going to happen next is..
If the democrats destroy whats left..
give them 100 days
hell their on day 5 and already approved 1 trillion dollars for condoms and birth controls
Hell it might be worth it to ensure pelozi, reid, todds, shummer , kerry and kennedy dont ever reproduce..
But we wont get that lucky..
No next i am afraid is the comming revolutionary war II
Dont tread on me Pelozi..
jcila on January 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM
I hope you weren’t implying states like Michigan and Ohio being the ones who “sprint off a cliff”. How about bringing someone to the table who can sell a positive message to people who’ve seen the GOP kill off their way of life? These being people who were once card-carrying GOP conservatives, turned only by years of wondering why their own party was attacking their way of life.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Sometimes I wish that Allah would go back to Photoshopping Saddam Hussein as a crazy cab driver and John Kerry on top of the World Trade Center as a plane flew into it “talking about Health Care”.
Allah was much happier then.
To quote Barry Goldwater, this poll “makes as much sense as teats on a boarhog”…
I remember when Texas was over 90% Democrat, yet they voted in a conservative Republican Senator (John Tower), a Hyperconservative Republican Governor (Bill Clemens), and gave George McGovern less than 25% of the vote.
TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Ok…. lets see…
The vast majority of Americans still self identify as Conservative.
1/3 of the Electorate now self Identifies as Independent.
Fewer and Fewer of the electorate self identify as Republicans…
Can you follow what is happening? Its not the Conservative belief system that has failed, its that many many people, like myself, will not identify as Republican because THEY are not Conservatives.
They tried to become the New Coke (Democrat Light) and it failed… they need to go back to basics… Fiscal Conservatism, Small Government, and Law and Order.
Romeo13 on January 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Bingo.
Harpazo on January 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM
smellthecoffee on January 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Cantor was all over TV today, and gave a great speech on the floor against the POS.
This bill is like Rosemary’s Baby – who will want to claim it when the shite hits the fan.
What we have to do is to advertise the crappy pork and leftwing nonsense in it. The voters are going to have to pay for this and they are not going to be happy. Noone likes being lied to, and this will be set in stone.
The Republicans need to keep their fingerprints off of it. It’s pure poison.
TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 12:28 AM
This map looks like a cancer screening overtaking a body. Time to fight the cancer that is socialism.
ErinF on January 29, 2009 at 12:29 AM
How did the GOP kill off their “way of life”? Labor costs? The unions had a big hand in that.
ddrintn on January 29, 2009 at 12:30 AM
^ And propping up the farce by ever-increasing government infusions may win votes, but it’s even more destructive in the long run.
ddrintn on January 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM
My sister lives in Woodbridge, and her three voting-age kids live in Northern Virginia. Apparently, those kids are the only young people in that area who are still voting GOP. I’m not sure who was more opposed to Obama: them or me. I love ‘em.
BuckeyeSam on January 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Thanks. I don’t understand the comment either. And my percentages weren’t a reference to geographical regions–though the coasts are decidely blue.
BuckeyeSam on January 29, 2009 at 12:35 AM
These being people who were once card-carrying GOP conservatives, turned only by years of wondering why their own party was attacking their way of life.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 12:21 AM
The low-taxing states in the Sunbelt have been draining those tax-loving, Union-adoring northern swamps for decades. Are you telling me that they weren’t dead on their asses by the time of the Reagan election in 1980?
I remember all those black Michigan plates down here during the oil boom in the late 1970’s. People were sleeping in their cars and lining up for roughneck and roustabout jobs by the thousands.
“Way of life”, my ass. Sell that crap to Lou Dobbs.
The Japanese killed the Rust Belt, along with the clueless Democrat clowns who governed those states. Blaming the Republicans is bull.
TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM
“Selling a positive message.” Telling use of words their Sethstorm. Selling a bill of goods more like, while telling them that GOP is to blame. Same as it ever was. Those poor union guys up there–nothing but vote fodder for the elitist Democrats who consider them “fly-over” people.
smellthecoffee on January 29, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Disturbingly, this map doesn’t surprise me (and I live in Texas).
Look around- all media (music, movies, TV, magazines, newspapers, etc.) everything that is “cool” our entire education system from preschool through grad school… is all based in fundamentally liberal ideals.
Like it or not, the Republican brand is old, white guys sitting in oak paneled rooms with cigars and brandy. That brand has been endlessly associated with evil, elite, corrupt big-wigs that no one can relate to. The party has also maintained an air of elitism and black and white distinctions of what is right and wrong (ex. if you aren’t pro-life, pro-gun, anti-gay christians; we don’t want you and you can’t be part of the club)
Democrats will accept anyone, living or dead and regardless of any consideration, who they can get to vote for them. They are the everybody else party.
That said, I agree with 98% of conservative ideals. Those I differ on, I can live with because liberal ideals are completely ignorant and I despise entitlement and a lack of personal accountability.
Still, even posting here I have often been nearly kicked out of the club because I am not Christian and folks here are generally good people with open minds.
Republicans need to, as a whole, maintain their ideals while learning to be accepting of alternative viewpoints on core issues and being more inclusive.
I despise Obama. Still, credit where it’s due, his team has mastered branding, marketing, image control and message control better than anyone in politics. Too bad he’s a terrorist loving, criminal narcissist without a legitimate resume, experience or even a clue.
Damiano on January 29, 2009 at 12:48 AM
You seem to say nothing about those not involved in a labor union. There have been businesses there that have been quite friendly (e.g. National Cash Register, still retaining a bit of a local presence after so many odd years) but weren’t union.
What do you have to say about non-union businesses that have managed to repel unions to becoming a reason for a resurgence of labor?
I have yet to see them sell the party as anything but “make the pro-union states implode”. As for Dobbs, I have no issue with what he says – at least his existence taps an audience that wants solutions, not friendly fire.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM
You still didn’t answer the question.
ddrintn on January 29, 2009 at 12:51 AM
There’s a growing black middle class that #1, gives the lie to the race-baiting myth that this is a racist country, and #2, are becoming affluent, and like anyone who is making a living, wants to keep as much of it as possible. I don’t think it’s a done deal that blacks will be monolithically Democrat. School vouchers is the big wedge issue for urban blacks–I wish the GOP would figure that out. If the black community knew that the future of their children were being held hostage by the teacher’s unions–there would be trouble on the Democrat Party vote-growing plantation. Taxes and traditional values are the strengths that GOP has to offer middle and upper-middle class blacks. Ironically, the way in which Obama will change the way race is viewed in this country may end up opening up the eyes of some African-Americans. If his ascension does open up more “possible selves” to black youth, and they do start to look, even once in a while, beyond the calculus of race, who knows what they might see?
smellthecoffee on January 29, 2009 at 12:58 AM
at least his existence taps an audience that wants solutions, not friendly fire.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM
The best solution would be to cut corporate taxes, encouraging the formation of capital investment and not producing huge spending bills full of pork that will bankrupt our bankrupted nation even more than it already is.
That’s a solution. Trillion dollar deficit spending is not a solution to a credit crisis, any more than pouring gasoline onto the fire is a solution to a house fire.
Partisanship is good, if you care about freedom. McCainian “reach across the aisle” solutions are just like McCain – dimwitted incoherent crap.
The Dems have no solution to this crisis, since they have no idea as to how a robust ecomy functions. Let them put their names on this POS. It’ll be their gravestone.
TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Based on the gusto with which you enjoy this, you deserve to be found, and to be exploited by the system of your ideals. I used to live in it and you can have it, all the way.
p.s. you learned nothing by having read Ayn Rand. I, on the other hand, was called an Ayn, before I read her. No worries, you’ll never find my Gulch, much as you’d like to. I worked way too hard to hand it over to you, and yours. You’d have to kill me first. I don’t subscribe to the “better read than dead” premise.
Entelechy on January 29, 2009 at 1:18 AM
Good thing you didn’t use that line in the QOTD thread!
Yikes.
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Indeed, if both sides care about it. The liberals are on their way of intensifying a modern form of serfdom, of perpetual dependency. The sheep will hopefully wake up before it’s too late.
Entelechy on January 29, 2009 at 1:22 AM
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Get your mind out of the gutter, hbj. It’s about Galt’s Gulch, the one sethstorm referred to here
sethstorm on January 28, 2009 at 11:23 PM
This is a really serious topic. It’s a matter of war and peace.
Entelechy on January 29, 2009 at 1:25 AM
When you rob Peter to pay Paul…Paul never complains…
right2bright on January 29, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Urban deniers, Doubting Thomas, whatever mamby pamby can’t look you in the eye types. When the wind blows RED they’ll come out of the woodwork to hoist the flag and pledge allegience. When the wind blows BLUE they’ll hide behind their momma’s skirts.
Screw ‘em.
Limerick on January 29, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Screw it. I’ll keep my sense of humor to myself. You’ve got to admit it’s a line that would have made heads explode in the context of the 41/42 jokes.
I am sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. It was a joke.
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 1:29 AM
The Republican leadership needs to copy the same strategies that the Democrats used for the last 2 years:
1.) Moan, complain, and have tantrums about what is going to fail about the Democrats’ policies. Be vocal to the American public. It worked for Reid/Pelosi regarding the public perception of the war, etc.
2.) Build a better grass roots strategy to get the message out
smartsy on January 29, 2009 at 1:37 AM
hbj, no worries. My sensibilities are not that delicate. If they were, I couldn’t be here.
No need to keep your sense of humor to yourself. I like you a lot, humor included. You already know that I have a sick sense of humor. It’s just that this topic is one of two lives I’ve lived intensely, and I do know the difference and fear that we’re heading backwards, away from freedom and liberty. Without them all is nothing. Best always,
Entelechy on January 29, 2009 at 1:37 AM
As long as the Republicans are just the Democrats lite so it will be. Why would anyone vote Repub/Dem-light when they could just vote for the real thing (or stay home in disgust with no representation available) and go Dem.
The Dems are Socialist but they don’t hide their BIG GOVERNMENT crap they brag on it. The Repubs (PROVEN OVER THE LAST 8 YRS) are just closet Dem fakes.
C-Low on January 29, 2009 at 1:38 AM
I understand, and agree. But don’t fall into the trap of some bullshit poll trying to tell the squishy among us that all is already lost. Only when we believe their deceitful narrative are we well and truly lost.
But sometimes you’ve just gotta laugh. It releases endorphins, or something…
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 1:44 AM
Just for giggles, insert the Gulch quote after the 10:42 comment from Kid from Brooklyn.
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 1:51 AM
hbj, indeed. One of the trolls said in the ‘bailout’ thread that the reps did what they did, while “Rome was burning” – risible. They have no clue what they speak of.
Endorphins are good. The day lost is always the one we haven’t laughed in, and I always add “and haven’t read in”.
Good night my e-friend. We’re always good,
Entelechy on January 29, 2009 at 1:52 AM
Darn, my “indeed” was to the 1:44 AM quote :)
Entelechy on January 29, 2009 at 1:54 AM
As ever. Good night, dear friend.
hillbillyjim on January 29, 2009 at 1:54 AM
Persons attempting to find a motive in this
narativethread will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.- Mark Twain
MB4 on January 29, 2009 at 1:56 AM
You will notice that they include this disclaimer, but then do not list the questions asked in the poll. I call BS here. The questions were probably slanted.
The other problem I have with this is there is no mention of people that don’t identify with either party. I can[’t imagine they forced you to choose one if you had no prefernece. If that number was big enough the other numbers don’t really mean anything. What do you call a state where the numbers come nack 10% Republican, 20% Democrat, and 70% neither?
Buford on January 29, 2009 at 2:03 AM
And all the universities contiunue to innoculate the areas around themselves with Blue Virus, which spreads like that old “Virus” computer game.
eeyore on January 29, 2009 at 2:08 AM
oh SNAP!
Noneya on January 29, 2009 at 2:12 AM
Those lazy humps need to get out the vote and get off their asses. AZ could have done A LOT MORE during the immigration debate, but you let John McCain dickswing you guys around.
McCain did not win the state overwhelmingly. AZ SHOULD BE SOLIDLY REPUBLICAN. It’s a great western state that is politically very visible. What’s up with the Republican leadership there?
Jgapinoy, you need to reroute their mail to get their attention. :)
The Race Card on January 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM
Assuming that people start becoming politically “aware” when they are 14 or 15, everyone in this country under 23 years old has been bombarded since that time with the message that Republicans are evil. It has come from the papers, the radio, TV shows, the entire entertainment industry, just about every influence on them has been driving home an anti-Republican message since the 2000 election. It is no wonder we are seeing these numbers.
The GOP needs some younger and vigorous talent and needs to get the message out in the pop culture, not just on talk radio.
crosspatch on January 29, 2009 at 2:41 AM
Yes, the GOP brand is absolutely toxic to the millenials, and rightly so. They are far less religious (19% are nonbelievers) and support gay marriage (by 2 to 1), so you may wanna start by backing off the social conservatism……
Noneya on January 29, 2009 at 2:55 AM
I don’t see Arizona on the list. WE have a GOP Governor, two senators (at least until 2010) and I believe we still have the lions share of GOP congressmen here, not to mention our legislature if GOP and increased their numbers in November.
Rapunzel on January 29, 2009 at 3:00 AM
And I’m quite proud to live in Wyoming, one of the last seven bastions of sanity seemingly left in this country. However, I would argue that there are a few more states amongst those seven, considering how said states swing in elections.
Jockolantern on January 29, 2009 at 3:29 AM
The GOP used trade as a weapon. To bypass domestic labor at the “white collar” level, they decided to support offshoring. Never mind the dirty pool involved the process.
When businesses and unions respect each others’ existence.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 5:21 AM
Argumentum ad Numeram
anuts on January 29, 2009 at 5:35 AM
Some of the folk there are of the sort that have no issue with bypassing citizens(and not by their presence there). I could count the number in single digits (or up to low double-digit numbers) of those who I’d have respect at that locality. Of that low number, most if not all of them were once of Ohio.
While I recognize the value of that, combine that with killing off H1/L1 and replacing it with something that makes the quota zero(and requires citizen replacements to continue the work) if unemployment rises above 3.5%. Add a tax credit to recognize “Patriot Employers” and their willingness to work with citizens, not Third World labor.
That gives something for those in Wilmington something that they want to pass. As an ultimate test, how about reducing the rate to .01%? You still collect money, and you still have a tax cut.
sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 6:01 AM
You come on Hot Air and say the same thing over and over. Can you at least get some original material?
terryannonline on January 29, 2009 at 6:02 AM
The GOP will make gains by 2012 just simply by the fact that Obama will actually have to take stands on issues and some in his base will not like where he stands. Unless some big unforeseen event happens that galvanizes the American people toward Democrats, I think the GOP will have a much better turn out in 2012 than they did in 2008. I’m not predicting a win or lose in 2012 because it’s way to early to tell.
terryannonline on January 29, 2009 at 6:16 AM
Alabama “barely red”??????????????
I can tell you don’t live here AP. Yes, we did vote about sixty-forty last time, but even that little twenty vote margin for McCain was a fluke. Lots of us were dispirited and stayed home. But it was still a twenty percent pasting for the GOP.
Squiggy on January 29, 2009 at 6:48 AM
I do not remember a time when Republicans beat Democrats on Party ID, but they have managed to win elections anyway. I think I would take this with a huge grain of salt.
Terrye on January 29, 2009 at 6:58 AM
It’s a new shade: ACORN BLUE
stenwin77 on January 29, 2009 at 7:10 AM
Damiano on January 29, 2009 at 12:48 AM
That was a very good analysis.
anniekc on January 29, 2009 at 7:10 AM
Also- I think A.P. intentionally looks for poorly researched and misleading data; This was an election that isn’t likely to ever be repeated; Trust- Kansas IS and will remain a red state. As will Alabama and most of the southern states. I don’t know why Michelle keeps A.P.
anniekc on January 29, 2009 at 7:14 AM
The Republican platform should now include language that emphatically and forcefully defends capitalism, private property, and individual freedom. Democrats need to be tagged with the Socialists they have become.
Future bumper stickers:
No to Socialism.
I didn’t vote for the crap sandwich.
Capitalism rocks.
No job? No tax refund!
Capitalism you can believe in.
Have you hugged a capitalist today?
Want change? Invest in capitalism.
Big government=small mind.
I’m sure you can think of others!
EMD on January 29, 2009 at 7:32 AM
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