Gallup: Just seven states left where GOP leads in party ID

posted at 9:50 pm on January 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, Nebraska, Kansas, and Alabama, and the last two are barely red. Total combined electoral votes: 35. The news isn’t quite as dismal as it seems — Texas is technically a blue state by this measure, even though it’s reliably red at election time — but eyeball the map at the link and note how many southern states are suddenly leaning Democratic. Jay Cost has a long, thoughtful post on how Republicans have traditionally overcome the ID advantage (hint: superior turnout and an uneasy coalition in the broad Democratic base), but toss a galvanizing figure like The One into the mix and it becomes a lot harder to pull off.

Cost’s other big point is that partisan trends can shift very rapidly, so if the crap sandwich is as crappy as we think, the map will surely be redder by 2012. Even so, I don’t envy whoever’s tasked with dethroning the Messiah. Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?


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According to this, Oklahoma is a blue state. McCain/Palin got their largest margin of victory here.

Bobbertsan on January 29, 2009 at 7:34 AM

I ax once again….why do you people continue to feed the trolls?

angryed on January 29, 2009 at 7:38 AM

AP,

Couple of points:

1. Party identity is about as inaccurate a statistic as you get. People register one time, say at 20. They most likely choose Dem. Then kep that registration for the next 50 years, unless they move to a new state or decide they want to vote in the Rep primary. But in general, you register once and that’s it. So given the fact that most people register to vote for the first time when they’re yong and stupid (and Democrat), Dems will always have that edge.

2. In 1992 Clinton was supposed to have realigned the political map for the next 30 years. And in 2004 Bush was supposed to have done the same. How did that work out for both of them?

angryed on January 29, 2009 at 7:44 AM

Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

Because the “fearsome national organization” is only fearsome in Democratic primaries. The Messiah beat Juan McShamnesty by 5% in the worst year for Republicans in electoral history — and the only reason he beat Juan was because of the financial crisis (and Juan’s completely incompetent response thereto). In the general election, I think the media advantage — and, increasingly, the new media/internet advantage — is what you really need to be afraid of. Even if the press begins to carp at the Messiah during His first term, you can rest assured that come 2012, they will all fall in line and will just thrash whatever Republican runs. We have to be ready for that.

Outlander on January 29, 2009 at 7:47 AM

How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

Bambi did indeed build a strong organization (with a lot of taxpayer-financed assistance — thanks ACORN). However, he also benefitted immensely from the fact that (1) the MSM was completely in the tank for him; and (2) he had no actual record to run against.

In 2012, Bambi may still have some worshippers in the media, but he’ll also have a record, and it probably won’t be one that makes a majority of voters want to keep him in office.

AZCoyote on January 29, 2009 at 7:53 AM

This is PURE 100% MSM POOP! Please get real, go look at the COUNTY MAP, red vs blue… IT IS A SEA OF RED!!!! This Nation is NOT going “blue”… It’s going BROKE. Moraly broke, socialy broke, our values are broke and our RINO representatives are broke… But county by county there are SO many more RED then blue ones… Rural voters understand, more then urban, American pride, work etics and family. Articals like this are 100% PURE PROPAGANDA! Based on some idiots poll or this or that… LOOK AT FACTS, the election numbers are in and COUNTY BY COUNTY Conservatives rule. Nimbers wise, of course, we are behind. Urban cespools of crime and amoral garbage are populated with the poor, the welfare queens, the degenerats, those needing someone to blame. Run by Dems for 40 years most Cities are broken, run down, hell holes… Union thugs and anti-American radical rule, but head out to the real country and find AMERICANS! Proud, hard working, religious, family folks… RED!!!

So take this garbage thread and STUFF IT!!! It’s a lie!!!

Mark Garnett on January 29, 2009 at 7:55 AM

I’ll wait to see what that poll looks like in a year before getting too worried, especially now that the GOP appears to have grown a set.

Ann NY on January 29, 2009 at 8:00 AM

And in todays political news the last 7 red states are considering banding together to form a block. Once becoming a block they can hold block parties at will. At one time the red states nearly outnumbered the blue states. What changed you ask?

Enhanced voter registration drives by ACORN groups in most red states have shifted the balance of power from red to blue. In addition, the new nation wide “getting out the vote taxi service” has resulted on a shift away from voting red. It’s a brilliant plan that benefits the less fortunate blue registrants. Through this plan you are able to vote one, two, even up to 100 times. Yes folks, you heard me right, vote up to 100 times from the comfort of your own home. Register through ACORN and an ACORN volunteer will do the walking for you. For those old fashionned voters who like to pull levers and punch holes in cards it’s even easier. If you are a registered democrat call 1-800-fre-ride and a volunteer cab driver with pick you up and take you to a many polling stations of your choosing. If you don’t want to choose your own ACORN will be happy to provide you with numerous polling places but you have to hurry as it is first come first served and supplies are limited. We are sorry, at this time “getting out the vote taxi service” is not able to accept requests from “getting out the vote taxi service” employees, their families, relatives, pets, or registered republicans.

kanda on January 29, 2009 at 8:05 AM

ACORNs

tarpon on January 29, 2009 at 8:12 AM

My home state of Tennessee is firmly on the side of angels, no matter what your poll says. In fact, forget Florida – we’re the reason you didn’t have a President Gore in 2000. He was our Senator and we were smart enough not to vote for him.

As for 2012 – well, unless he screws up badly enough to make the media feel betrayed and taken advantage of for all their sycophantic fawning, we’re going to have 8 years of Uh-bama to deal with.

The good news is, colossal screw-ups are pretty likely.

Professor Blather on January 29, 2009 at 8:25 AM

I would blame the ‘litmus test’ crowd. You know, the guys that run around calling everyone a RINO when they don’t vote their way on a particular issue and trying to divide the party on every issue.

We are fighting against Hollywood and media elite propaganda in addition to the other party and it’s candidates.

Until that is countered there is an uphill battle to be fought. The media battle is long lost.

It is time to paint the media and Hollywood’s ultra liberal agenda as the outsider and welcome those resistant to being fed the liberal propaganda – without the all or nothing strings of a ‘litmus test’.

All the younger people I work with seem to only get their news thru John Stewart or some other propaganda spewing mouthpiece.

People don’t search for the truth anymore – and when they do they ‘Google’ it thru a media propaganda search engine that couldn’t figure out how to stop a Google bomb for over 6 years under President Bush – but can resolve the matter in a few days under usurper Obama.

A group of right wing bloggers and one cable news outlet sympathetic to the cause as long as the ratings hold isn’t going to be enough to counteract the massive shift we are witnessing.

We need a targeted strategy to bring in the doubters and the fringe. Litmus test’s will not accomplish that.

Mr Purple on January 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM

Polls, as usual, just trying to justify their existence.

jeanie on January 29, 2009 at 8:50 AM

You know, the guys that run around calling everyone a RINO when they don’t vote their way on a particular issue and trying to divide the party on every issue
Mr Purple on January 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM

You have a good point. I think we’ve divided ourselves. I’ve been called a RINO by a few on hotair myself. It is unfortunate that these same so called “real republicans” just repeat the same mistakes over and over again and expect a differend result. Some people never learn.

kanda on January 29, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Polls, as usual, just trying to justify their existence.

jeanie on January 29, 2009 at 8:50 AM

What you wrote is true. The concern I have is many people believe the polls and vote based on them. It’s one thing to say the polls are wrong. It’s another to correct the misperception. Republicans just accept it as “another liberal poll” and do nothing. It’s called apathy.

kanda on January 29, 2009 at 8:54 AM

How do they come up with this crap? Georgia’s entire state gov’t is repub, we beat BO even with a massive libtard turnout, our senator easily won a runoff election this year…..and the moron’s at Gallup claim we are a toss up state…..WTF are they smoking?

David in ATL on January 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM

You have a good point. I think we’ve divided ourselves. I’ve been called a RINO by a few on hotair myself. It is unfortunate that these same so called “real republicans” just repeat the same mistakes over and over again and expect a differend result. Some people never learn.

kanda on January 29, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Wrong o’ Mary Lou… We have lost time after time EXACTLY BECAUSE we “moderated”, moved center, stood for nothing…

We lost our voice, the real Conservative message got watered down by folks like you and other “fence sitters”.

We will win again as Reagan did, in a landslide, when we teach and preach Conservative morals, anti-abortion, values, American Pride, strong Military, closed borders, anti-illegal immigration, HUGE CUTS in welfare and entitlements, HUGE CUTS in spending, Capitol Gains tax cuts, Business tax cuts that REALLY bring jobs back home and total energy packages with NUCLEAR and COAL and massive increases in DRILLING everywhere, English only and continued anti-Gay-Agenda messages. ALL of these according to polls have a VAST support, even among Dems. It’s just that noone has the guts to voice these politicaly incorrect points. Peole like you and others that want a “big tent” have LOST us election cycle after election cycle with your watered down, Dem-Lite approach.

Let’s try it Reagans way, let’s try REAL Conservatisam!

It can’t do ANY worse then your way has….

Dispute that…

Mark Garnett on January 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I think McCain should try it again. I’m sure he and the GOP learned their lessons from the last time.
He’s a patriot! He’s a hero! He’s bipartisan! He’s a winner! He hates loves his party! A campaign message if I ever heard one……
: )

JeffinOrlando on January 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

Watch him self-destruct over the next four years, mark every failure no matter how small, and nail him at every turn. You can’t do it with a patsy McCain-style campaign.

fiscallyconservative on January 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Let’s try it Reagans way, let’s try REAL Conservatisam!

It can’t do ANY worse then your way has….

Dispute that…

Mark Garnett on January 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I forgot to mention VOUCHERS for ALL school children! If it was really explained to blacks that showed them how this could get thier kids into great schools, out of gettos and welfare, if we taught and showed the sucesses of black kids ALREADY IN THESE VOUCHER SCHOOLS, then we could get a HUGE precent of black votes. Blacks want more for thier kids, just as whites and other races… Show the proof, kill the union run thug schools…

There are WINNING issues, period. Not Dem-Lite socialism and “big tent” pabblem and poop!

Mark Garnett on January 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Proud to be a resident of one of the seven colonies.

whitetop on January 29, 2009 at 9:29 AM

What’s the use of trying then if many vote as the polls call it, many vote as the MSM calls it, many vote as the liberal talk shows call it, many vote as the Hollywood nitwits call it. We might as well just quit now, fold our tents and steal away. Appears as if Obama and the libs HAVE cleared the playing field to quote Rush. And, the voices we have are under attack–or will be, if they’re not already. All this talk about the tables will turn if this, this, or that happens. We’ve been out flanked by the crooks and the sweet talkers and the gimme people and especially those who use hatred and divided we conquer as their strategy. We’ve also been out flanked by ourselves and our inability to stick together and speak as one voice. Now, where’s our hope and change because I sure could use it. Cheer me up someone out there?

jeanie on January 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM

jeanie on January 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Faith in God…

Faith in family…

Faith in real Americans…

We still have many blessings.

As long as we have breath, and we fight back, even in losing we win inside knowing we tried, we did not sit idle, we did not shrink in the face of overwhelming odds…

Remember The Alamo…

Mark Garnett on January 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Professor Blather on January 29, 2009 at 8:25 AM

I’m a fellow Volunteer (citizen not football fan);), and I don’t get this poll either. I’m guessing they only polled in downtown Memphis or the campus of UT.

pannw on January 29, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Even so, I don’t envy whoever’s tasked with dethroning the Messiah.

Of course not: that would be akin to treason.

Aronne on January 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Well then, openly dismiss these polls, call them down as nonsense. If, like the Dems, you say something often enough and forcefully enough, you can often make it true. And–let’s take another page from their book–brook only a VERY few negative articles and these only to galvanize the right into the group think that got the libs where they are right now. Propaganda from the right–yes indeed; and right now that, and the growing hatred of this administration, is all we have. Let’s use it.

jeanie on January 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Personally, I think all this means is that the Conservatives are still angry with the Republican leadership for abandoning the core principles that made the GOP what it was under Reagan. It’s difficult to tell the difference between a RINO and a Democrat. In OK, many of the state Dems are Conservative.

It is no longer really about political Party. It’s about principles. The GOP leadership has virtually left it’s principles on the door-step to D.C.

Perhaps it’s time for a new Party.

scottjenn on January 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I’m in Texas and I’ve been noticing the last few days that I have seen more Obama bumper stickers after the election than I ever did before. I think it’s the bandwagon effect. When the economy gets to Jimmy Carter levels, there will be a whole different bandwagon.

Kafir on January 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

“..to tell the difference between a RINO and a Dem” Agree, but there are degrees of RINOism–there always were. It’s the ones who go too far like Snowe, but she calls it principle too and perhaps it is, but her principles are not acceptable now that the GOP margin is so small. Upon what I freely admit is sloppy and non-scientific analysis, I have decided that is often(not always) the women in office who wander about with these do-gooder(lib) points of view(I probably would be one were I in office!)–except Pelosi, it’s the one thing I admire about her. So—what then is the future of conservatism if ‘conservative’ women politicians often espouse the lib view?(incidentally, my user name does denot my gender lest you now think otherwise)

jeanie on January 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM

George W Bush was in charge, he chose & supported his advisors and it was on his watch that we have been in a very long, expensive two war quagmire and fell into a deep economic recession while he kept assuring us that all was well, “just a slowdown”. Bush has so often looked like an inarticulate, slow witted clown and has totally discredited the Republican party in minds of most Americans. His administration was a disaster and the primary blame for the swing to democratics belongs to his incompetence.

Whatever disasters happen because of Obama we can know that Bush made it possible.

Chessplayer on January 29, 2009 at 10:52 AM

You may be right, Jeanie-boy! But as Rush and others have said, once you step into the borders of the Beltway, a person becomes, somehow, “possessed” by the need to be loved by the media and those in power. Perhaps that need was there previously, but it becomes stronger when you, all of a sudden, are being wooed by the deceitfulness of position.

I still cannot believe the American people as a whole, do not take enough time (or pride) in our country to hold our representatives to a higher principle. My stimulus package would begin with term limits and salary reductions for each member of Congress. Instead of limiting our postal deliveries, why not limit Congressional sessions. That would also serve to reduce our “Carbon Footprints” by cutting WAY down on hot air that is produced with each session! The old, “two birds with one stone” routine, so to speak.

scottjenn on January 29, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Chess dude! There were warnings that the Bushies sounded, early on. The Dems and certain RINOs ignored them.

scottjenn on January 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Whatever disasters happen because of Obama we can know that Bush made it possible.

Chessplayer on January 29, 2009 at 10:52 AM

What a minute. Didn’t Democrats continually tell us that the major problem with Bush is that he didn’t take “responsibility” for his “mistakes”? So are saying that you are not going to hold responsible for anything that happens under his watch? Wow. You should work for MSNBC dude.

terryannonline on January 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM

So are saying that you are not going to hold responsible for anything that happens under his watch?

Sorry meant to write:

So are saying that you are not going to hold Obama responsible for anything that happens under his watch?

terryannonline on January 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

I think this is gobbledegook. Gallup is no longer trustworthy in my opinion. They are in the tank with the Drive By’s. And of course they take the poll after the Obama hysteria inauguration. Here in Oklahoma, our state legistlature just turned Republican. While we have a Democrat governor, I wouldn’t call us a Democrat state. In fact, in the Pres. election, we are the reddest of the red. I think Gallup is just trying to isolate us further and encourage us to just give up.

Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

I’m sorry, but the Republicans really messed up. Badly.
Conservatives had the power in their hands and the squandered it. And it’s not McCain’s fault. Bush did NOTHING to progress the conservative message because he was never truly a conservative.

There is no leadership in the conservative movement anymore. It took Bush less than 4 years to destroy something that took 30 years to create. The Republicans need to find their own leader and not try to copy or suck up to Obama.

stefystef on January 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

There is no leadership in the conservative movement anymore. It took Bush less than 4 years to destroy something that took 30 years to create. The Republicans need to find their own leader and not try to copy or suck up to Obama.

stefystef on January 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

What could Bush have done differently to keep the GOP in power? Clearly he could have been more fiscally conservative, but how would that have changed the November results?

dedalus on January 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM

I think this is gobbledegook. Gallup is no longer trustworthy in my opinion. They are in the tank with the Drive By’s. And of course they take the poll after the Obama hysteria inauguration. Here in Oklahoma, our state legistlature just turned Republican. While we have a Democrat governor, I wouldn’t call us a Democrat state. In fact, in the Pres. election, we are the reddest of the red. I think Gallup is just trying to isolate us further and encourage us to just give up.

Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Same with the headline above on HA: Gallup says 34% of Americans say religion is unimportant in daily lives. Gallup has an agenda folks: make conservative Republicans feel they ARE the extremists.

Christian Conservative on January 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I am a conservative who refuses to identify as GOP anymore because of the people at the top of the party pulling the strings while voicing contempt for riff raff conservatives who refuse to change their views to moderate

That does not make my household Blue

The problem currently is not a reduction in conservatism but a party that treats members like serfs who must obey the royal family

You have to be nuts to identify as a Republican right now when there is not a single piece of evidence the party has changed since the McCain force feeding fiasco

Between the attempt to force illegal alien amnesty (job stealing) and the refusal to close the borders (fence avoidance) and the expressed contempt for vigilantes (minute men) and the revision of bankruptcy laws to force the sale of homes, coupled with the revision of credit laws increasing minimum payments at the time house prices collapsed, and the handouts to banks without any requirement to re write mortgages which allowed banks to dump foreclosed homes for a penny on the dollar short term gain wiping out the resale possibility of the main asset of Americans who require mobility to obtain jobs, while setting up government programs to facilitate mortgages for people with good credit only facilitating the liquidation sale of the foreclosed homes the GOP has pretty much shrunk its support base to zero.

Conservatives currently do not have a party. The DEMs forced the banks to give non prime mortgages, but the GOP helped the banks balance their books by squeezing the middle class out of their houses. The DEMs will keep their socialist voters but the GOP lost the loyalty of the middle class

entagor on January 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

These polls need to start asking the ? not Dem or Rep but Lib vs. Consev .Most True Consev.left the Rep. party years ago.

thmcbb on January 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Mr Purple on January 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM

This is the kind of thinking that resulted in John McCain as our candidate. When you drift away from core principles to try to include more people, you start to lose people as well. John McCain thought enough of this strategy to waste 5 months campaigning to ‘new demographics’ while almost completely alienating his base; in the end, he had to jam Palin on the ticket to stop the bleeding of his core support. You don’t attract people to your beliefs by pandering to theirs or adopting theirs; you have to show them intellectually why your beliefs are better.
The further the GOP has drifted from conservatism since 1994, the more they’ve lost. You’ve got it backwards. Stick to your principles, and start teaching. You may lose, but at least you can lose with some dignity.

austinnelly on January 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

You run ads when there’s not an election.

Vizzini on January 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Vizzini on January 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Good answer

Now is the time

entagor on January 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM

I’m in Texas and I’ve been noticing the last few days that I have seen more Obama bumper stickers after the election than I ever did before. I think it’s the bandwagon effect. When the economy gets to Jimmy Carter levels, there will be a whole different bandwagon.

Kafir on January 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Exact same thing in arkansas, betcha tons of these people did not even vote.
The dumbing down of america on full display

kangjie on January 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM

I made a casual comment about North Carolina. My wife saw something that the same thing happened there. An outflow of democraps from the disease ridden cities into the once red areas is causing the problem.

I don’t know how to stop that. These morons just don’t see that the reason they had to flee was the bankrupt philosophy that they continue to support.

bullseye on January 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM

States WA,CO,ID can also be added. I lived in those states & fled everytime the nutbags came in.
You are right. They really fleeing from the infested cities to the rural red areas.
They create the same mess they left & wonder why things are bad.
But Dems vote in huge #s.
I think too many of us Reds are demoralized, too busy working, etc to go vote. There are MORE of us, but not enough that actually vote.
Big cities breed dependent welfare parasites (Dems).
I have seen it time & again.
But I don’t believe any of these polls. They are full of errors & bias I am beyond caring about them.

Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

The opponent did not build a fearsome organiztion. The opponent built an organization that promised what a large group wanted to hear. Numbers are power

The GOP is not saying what conservatives want to hear. On the contrary, the GOP elites consistently castigate conservatives for not changing their wish list. This is a recipe for a failed party. Power is delegated by votes, and no one gives their proxy to an entity that does not represent their wishes.

The McCain election sucked up to people outside the party with moderate promises while waving a club at conservatives to vote or else. Meanwhile, the moderates being wooed would not be attracted to a party that contained so many conservative voices at the bottom demanding the conservative voice be heard.

Today we get a steady trickle of blame directed at GOP conservatives for scaring away moderates by being too religious, too conservative, by holding their own opinions dear

You can take a horse to water ….

The RINOs want the party voters but do not want to vote their way. Unfortunately they have a RINO track record that cannot be retracted

McCain/Palin still got over 40 percent. That is a lot of people for such a lousy candidate

entagor on January 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I am a conservative (in the classical liberal sense – read: in the spirit of Samuel Adams) that has not been registered as a Republican in years.

The poll is junk.

AZ_Redneck on January 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

Why the bloody hell are you giving Obama all the credit?!?!

With the MSM as deeply in the tank as they were (and are), Obama had multiple built-in arrays of selling teams and propagandists with cameras and microphones in tow. He did not have to do one blessed thing to have them put in place. Just read a few pages of Bernie Goldberg’s new book, and you quickly get a sense of just how pervasive the jounalistic activism was in 2008. It is downright nauseating.

And what about ACORN? I say they can be “out-organized” by being placed behind bars, where they belong. Not that this is likely with their main Benefactor-in-Chief ensconsed comfortably within the Oval Office.

OneVision on January 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I think too many of us Reds are demoralized, too busy working, etc to go vote. There are MORE of us, but not enough that actually vote.
Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM

If taking an hour once every 2 years to vote is too much to ask for, then conservatism deserves to die.

angryed on January 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I just spent half an hour on the telephone with a Rebublican call-bank guy who was soliciting contributions. Apparently last month’s request that they remove my name from their lists has not been honored.

Apparently they have a programmed routine where they start out asking for, say, $700, then listen, then ask for $600, then listen some more, then bump it down to $500 and so on. I gave this poor guy an earful. I imagine he might have heard a little bit of it – “betrayed,” “country club elites,” “keep your atheists and homosexuals,” “never again,” “third party” – things like that. But, God bless him, he stuck to the script and listened all the way down to $100.

Yeah, I know that they did good in congress with the stimulus package yesterday, but I don’t care. People only get to work me over so many times before the promises of a bright shiney different tomorrow don’t cut it anymore, and the Republican Party is way over the limit. I’d vote for Palin if she ran as an independent, but not if she ran as a Republican. I’m done.

Venusian Visitor on January 29, 2009 at 12:32 PM

GALLUP=DEMOCRAT POLLING…

NRA Lifer on January 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM

partisan trends can shift very rapidly, so if the crap sandwich is as crappy as we think, the map will surely be redder by 2012

Redder as in bloodbath for democrats, IMO

Vashta.Nerada on January 29, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?

Wrong question – Barry would have lost if McCain merely voted no on the bailout, despite the money.

Vashta.Nerada on January 29, 2009 at 1:16 PM

AZ:

I agree, it is junk. According to this map, the state of Oklahoma is on the line. Obama did not win one single county in Oklahoma.

Terrye on January 29, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Vashta:

I don’t think that is true.

If most people were that upset with the bank bail out, Obama would not be president today.

Not voting for McCain and either voting for Obama or letting him win was just stupid for anyone who calls himself a conservative. The bank bail out was a lot different than this current bill. If they had not passed that and banks all over the country had failed, the economy would have gotten worse immediately. I doubt very much if that would have helped Republicans.

Terrye on January 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM

I’m in Texas and I’ve been noticing the last few days that I have seen more Obama bumper stickers after the election than I ever did before. I think it’s the bandwagon effect. When the economy gets to Jimmy Carter levels, there will be a whole different bandwagon.

Kafir on January 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

It’s the “I’m with the winner” Sheeple kind of thing.
Haven’t you noticed that suddenly EVERYBODY started wearing Texas Longhorn shirts after they got to #1 in 2005?
I’m a Longhorn alumni, and I saw those things all over the state, from end to end. Before then, Longhorn hats and shirts were quite rare out in the boonies.

TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM

If taking an hour once every 2 years to vote is too much to ask for, then conservatism deserves to die.

angryed on January 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Well I agree to that-but it’s a damned shame when you’re one of the ones who really cares & you’re trying to convince all the apathetic ba$tard$s around you to get out & vote!

Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Haven’t you noticed that suddenly EVERYBODY started wearing Texas Longhorn shirts after they got to #1 in 2005?
I’m a Longhorn alumni, and I saw those things all over the state, from end to end. Before then, Longhorn hats and shirts were quite rare out in the boonies.

TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM

As a former Texan I do remember that & in fact, there are kids wearing that stuff up here in ND & when I ask them who they wearing, they have no CLUE.

Badger40 on January 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Not voting for McCain and either voting for Obama or letting him win was just stupid for anyone who calls himself a conservative.

Terrye on January 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM

There have been some analyses done, I think by Jay Cost et al, that 6-8 million conservative voters stayed home in 2008. All I have is anecdotal evidence of hundreds of voters who said that ‘McCain was almost as much democrat, so why vote?’ I couldn’t put up much of an argument against that, outside of the pro-life one. Most of the stay at homes were economic conservatives, so that didn’t play. Looking at the poll numbers, the market decline was not the shift point, the bailout vote was.

Vashta.Nerada on January 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Orange County CA, previously known as the most Republican county in the states went blue this last election… that’s how far the GOP have fallen.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 29, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Will the GOP learn a DAMNED thing from this? NOT LIKELY. When you run idiots like McCain it hurts the WHOLE COUNTRY. Who’s next? Romney? If Romney is nominated it’ll be down to 4 states.
The GOP needs to stop the Cranial-Rectal Inversion.

nelsonknows on January 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM

TexasJew on January 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Perhaps those Michiganders have not lost their way, or found it again.

They finally woke up and saw that they’d no longer be able buy Detroit metal if they didn’t support him.

sethstorm on January 29, 2009 at 5:19 PM

They don’t include Arizona yet we have a GOP Governor, two senators, a majority of congressmen and increased the GOP legislature and senate in November. WHO took this survey anyway?

Rapunzel on January 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Here is obamas and pelozis america
in just 12 months..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE

imagine
criminals with more rights than american citizens
insamic terrorists roaming our streets thanks to obama
MEXICAN drug lords wiping out the local police departments
all the while
obama pelozi biden the dumbass , reid and the rest of the cockroaches will be grinning on tv
saying how wonderful their new liberal mecca is..

here see what the brits think of pelozis and obamas plans..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE

jcila on January 29, 2009 at 7:39 PM

You guys can keep the mormons! Mission accomplished!

Vernon Hardapple on January 29, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Look’s like Arnold’s getting his wish.

“Let’s let the party come all the way to the center.” –Arnold Schwarzenegger

He’s a big fan of global Warming too.

apacalyps on January 30, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Allahpundit asks:
[Exit question: How do you out-organize an incumbent who built the most fearsome national organization in modern political history?]

There’s an old saying I heard, “you can’t solve a problem until you realize that you actually have a problem”. And that describes the GOP perfectly. They’re in extreme denial and in a dead-run away from the truth. Every analysis they commission is “spun” to get the result that they want. To keep the well entrenched power brokers solid in their position. ITS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING TURF wherever you go. Whether its conservative political commentators or party officials. ALL ABOUT PROTECTING THEIR LITTLE PATCH OF TURF.
No, Allahpundit, there’s no chance for the GOP until they confront the problem. And the results of that problem? They continue to drive millions of former GOP voters away. You can “organize” until the cows come home. Its not going to help. GOP voters are about principle. If you speak truth they will respond positively. If you try to mix truth/lies, the Base will run from the stench! Darvin Dowdy

Darvin Dowdy on January 30, 2009 at 8:36 AM

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