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I just checked in and what the heck am I supposed to think? At HotAir advocating for or even simply blessing the deaths of millions and millions of people is considered no big deal? But suggesting someone should be banned is an atrocity? Of course they aren’t attacking the one who did the actual banning, just the one who suggested it, I can’t imagine why.

It as if commenters here are attempting to prove the liberal’s stereotypes of conservatives. And they’re doing a really good job of it.

The opposite is the case. Their hearts and minds are with the victorious – that’s what Allah tells them. Their ethics in terms of which they order their hearts and minds – are nothing like what westerners, raised in the Christian faith, understand by the term “hearts and minds”.

Islam does not teach the same sort of compassion for the other that virtually every other religion including today’s “secular humanism” teaches. Muslims murder and torture each other without compunction and their own ummah, “brotherhood” has no condemnation to offer. That’s because they don’t value INDIVIDUAL human life the way we Christian westerners do. It’s not a concept in Islam – which means it’s not a concept in Muslims “hearts and minds”. Their hearts and minds instead understand what Allah teaches them in the Koran – namely, the Collective Will to Power.

When will our leaders understand this? And moreover understand that it is necessary in the end to be “cruel to be kind”, to treat Muslims in the way they themselves understand moral principles? Which ultimately means that they must be beaten back and vanquished and humiliated by a greater strength?

That is clearly what they understand. Every move to win their hearts and minds that strengthens them, merely emboldens them to advance their own peculiar ethics of the world, which couldn’t give a damn about “hearts and minds”, as we understand the term. They will accept the shehada from anyone they can swindle and connive to recite it while at the same time are willing to kill anyone who leaves Islam. Whatever it takes to build the army of Islamic soldiers is what their ethics is about.

But how is it being kind to people to pander to their immaturity and self-deception and base impulses towards power?

Certainly no mature human being would suggest that one should pander to the primitive intellectual, emotional and moral sensibilities of a two-year old? A 2-year old understands the will to power through aggression only. But by the same token a 2-year old also thoroughly understands limitations that he simply has no power to transgress. That’s ultimately what a 2-year old understands.

And that’s basically what we’re dealing with here – 2-year olds – from an intellectual perspective, from a moral perspective, and mostly from a behavioral perspective -except it happens to be 2 year olds armed with AK-47′s (weapons they could never have invented for themselves, being 2-year olds, but the fact is that now they’ve got their hands on them!).

There is no way of avoiding the reality that the adults in this world are going to have to act like adults and step up and slap – in a big big way – Muslims who have made of their own societies the equivalent of “Lord of the Flies” and who now threaten to overrun every more advanced society with their mayhem.

“It’s cruel to be kind” is going to have to be the anthem of the future relations between the West and Islam. We’re going to have to come to terms with that fact. Either that – or it’s simply going to be cruel for all of us, with no kindness in sight, and possibly no one left to come and rescue us off an Island from hell that in our passivity and cowardice we allowed to be taken over by moral and intellectual pygmies with very, very big guns.
- Caroline (JihadWatch)

You’re absolutely without question the last person on this site that I give a hoot about.

You’re a perfect example of the the sick people who have infested the conservative movement.

If Buckley were here, he’d say to you, “Go, in the name of decency, go!”

SteveMG on January 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM

You are going to choke on your hate.

Sad thing about the comparison is that Abu Ghraib was the bad behavior of a few rogue a$$holes in the prison, where the Holocaust was a systemic movement through the entire Nazi party.

The entire debate here regarding the nature of this individual, i.e. whether he is human or animal, is nothing more than a red herring. Anyone championing either of those positions is in deep denial. Evil is neither human nor animal in its origins. It is, in fact, considerably older than both.

What you are looking at here is a bonafide, genuine case of demon possession. Dismiss it or deny it at your own peril.

Your continued vile and simultaneous preening with your wreath of thorns grows ever more tiresome.

You’re absolutely without question the last person on this site that I give a hoot about.

You’re a perfect example of the the sick people who have infested the conservative movement.

If Buckley were here, he’d say to you, “Go, in the name of decency, go!”

And *bam* then you begin to get why the entire Muslim clerical class seems to be more violent than isolation at a supermax.

Hitler just dovetails nicely with their existing beliefs.

This isn’t like the Mullah Omar ranting videos. This guy really, truly does believe this stuff.

How can you watch starved people being thrown only iron platforms and pushed by tractors and say “this is what Muslims should do to the Jews, if only they weren’t so weak.”

Bone-chilling.

The advocates of murder on this site are deeply disturbing.

AP and Ed have tried to rein them in but I guess they can’t control all of the extremists.

SteveMG on January 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Your continued vile and simultaneous preening with your wreath of thorns grows ever more tiresome.

Daily we hear reports of violent acts committed by Islamic terrorists on every inhabited continent. We try to wish it away with the myth of the ‘Moderate Muslim’, telling ourselves the Islamic agenda has been’ hijacked’ by a ‘tiny minority of extremists’ and that soon the huge, silent, moderate majority of Muslims will take charge and change things. However, post 9/11 very few Muslims have condemned terrorist actions. We are still waiting for moderates to stand and deliver, identifying and removing extremist thugs from their mosques and their communities. Waiting for this self-correction is our modern version of searching for unicorns.

Moderate Muslims will not be able to wrest control of the agenda for several reasons. First of all, Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah’s eternal word, was not moderate. No moderate can legitimately tell another Muslim to stop doing the extremist things Mohammed himself did. Also, the Qur’an condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call moderates are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Qur’an. Moderates will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, “There may be moderates in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate.”

Islamic expert Daniel Pipes and others estimate ten percent of the Islamic world to be militant. In 1933 when the Nazi party took control of Germany it had 2 million members, comprising only three percent of Germany’s sixty-six million citizens. A tiny minority of extremists can control a vast number of moderates, making them irrelevant.

Placing hope in ‘The Moderate Muslim’ is like searching for unicorns in the forest.
- A_Plague_on_Both_Houses (JihadWatch)

C’mon everbody climb aboard the STEEEEVE TRAIN!!

Right, because I’m not supposed to respond to attacks or people asking me questions?

If I didn’t respond, the same people would be calling me a coward or saying I ran away.

The advocates of murder on this site are deeply disturbing.

AP and Ed have tried to rein them in but I guess they can’t control all of the extremists.

ok, so we’ll kill all the muslims, except for this guy on tv whom you are so fond of.

As I said in 5 or 6 posts, this cleric is evil and awful and sick.

And, as I said, if a Predator hit him right between the eyes with a missile, I’d be happy (kind of a waster of a good missile, though).

If you interpret that as being “fond” of someone, you have an odd definition of fondness.

Other than those errors, you’re clearly a brilliant poster with a amazing command of logic and facts and the English language.

SteveMG on January 28, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Though I’ve not followed all of the vitriol here concerning you, I will say that there are just some viewpoints(facts, really) that are inherently right.
There are some positions that will always be, well, right. Period.
Kinda like the point that there are some cultures that are just plain BAD & WRONG, no matter how you slice it.
So arguing FOR something truly bad (like female genital mutilation) is really like pi$$ing in the wind. It will never be the right thing to do.

C’mon everbody climb aboard the STEEEEVE TRAIN!!

Unless you’re tired of the narcissism, in which case there’s a great post by Ed about the Challenger disaster. Don’t miss the Reagan video.

Yeah, that was exactly the point I was making. NOT.

You obviously haven’t been following this thread.

Yes, everyone else who advocates the mass slaughter of all Muslims is wrong.

I am absolutely right that they are wrong.

And anyone who advocates Hitler’s “solution” for Muslims, should be banned from this site.

And kicked out of the conservative movement. Just as William F. Buckley kicked out the anti-semites and lunatics Birchers.

Full stop.

Did I say I was right? Yep, I’ll say it again.

I’m right that killing children and elderly people simply because of their religion is wrong and those who disagree are flatout incorrect.

Clear enough for you?

Amazing how easy it is to label a group of people as “bad” or in need of extermination… fast forward to the ruling party of 2009, and sure enough, they’d like nothing better than to label ALL Republicans as “bad, and in need of extermination”.

SteveMG on January 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Yeah, that was exactly the point I was making. NOT.

You are your own worst enemy.

And – You’re. Not. Doing. Those. You. Advocate. For. Any. Favors. Either.

But I guess nothing gets past your ego. You’re right, everyone else is wrong. That’s become the topic, that’s what you’ve made the topic into.

Your perception must be right, everybody here that had a problem with you was advocating Hitler’s Final Solution. You’re right.

There, do you feel better now? I sure hope so cause this is the last time I’m going to feed you.

I also agree with SteveMG, because we don’t label all muslims, not ALL muslims need to be exterminated, saying so is beneath conservatives, and advocating such is NOT what Michelle Malkin, AP or Ed allow on their site. Not so hard for me to understand.

Its unnecessary for all of you to be giving Steve crap, they are not his rules, they are the rules of HotAir.