Iran might want nuclear weapons, or to be believed to have them, simply to be able to persuade Iraq against any future aggression.

Also a nuclear capable Iran will be able to continue their conventional weapons-testing program (AKA their proxy conflict against Israel) with less of a chance that Israel will retailiate with a nuclear first-stroke against Iran — since there will be the possibility of Iran retaliating with a nuclear weapon delivered to Israel from Lebanon or the Gaza strip.

It’s going to be up to somebody else to stop the Mad Mullahs this time around…if indeed anyone has the will to. Or even can for that matter.

My fear is that achmawhackjob will use his nukes on

1. A european city
2. The Us
3. As an EMP weapon (Supposedly the launch trajectory of some iranian missiles are consistent with an EMP strike)
4. against russia or china to try to trick them into hitting the US

As far as him having weapons grade material I still have to wonder about that Iranian ship where it was supposedly carrying ore but the pirates that seized it started having their hair fall out, their skin fall off and death. That would be consistent with a flux from putting seperate pieces together to reach critical mass.

But, don’t worry, as obamamamadingdonga said “Iran is just a tiny country”…. I’m sure once THE ONE has tea with Achmanutcase, then everything will be hunky dory and no nukes will ever be used.. Yessiree, Forget about the need for Potassium Iodate.. nothing to see, move along.

I’m also sure that the 1st lieutenant he put in charge of the CIA will be right on top of things… Boy I feel good.

/sarc

So what is suicidal about nuking Israel?

A devastating nuclear counterstrike by a nation with a much larger and more potent nuclear capability. The end of the current Iranian regime.

KW64 on January 27, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Iran’s nukes would be huge…at least the first ones. Remember fat man and little boy? They were the size of a small car. Too much for Gaza. But there are many other ways to truck one in.

Can anyone have any confidence that Iranian nukes will not go to their allies in Gaza and Lebanon to be put on rockets launced into Israel? For Israel not to act will be simply acquiescing to a 2nd holocaust.

keep the change on January 27, 2009 at 4:54 PM

So what is suicidal about nuking Israel? They will be heroes to the Islamic world, France, Germany, and the UN. And they will be protected by them.

Long comment here.

I believe the decision makers in Iran are true believers in Islam.

Ever wonder why there are no suicide bombers over the age of 30 – indeed why most of them are 18-25? Because even in a muslim country, the nihilism of islam is only the opium for the young and impressionable. The old men are in it for power and they seek only one thing – to maintain power until their last breath. Khomeini was 87 when he died. He could have blown himself up for allah a million times had he wanted to in those 87 years. He didn’t. The same could be said for the mullahs that surround the ayatollah. As far as Amadinejad is concerned, he is just a hand puppet. He’s the bad cop in a good cop/bad cop routine.

The Saudi ruling class, for example, is very extreme with their form of islam, but behind closed doors, the clothes come off, they booze starts flowing, the hookers join them and it’s party time. It’s the worst kept secret in the Middle East. The strictness and radical pronouncements of islamic leaders are to control the masses and appease the extremists, in order to keep the regime in power. They saw what happened to the Shah.

Don’t think for a second that any of those old geezers take that 12th imam thing seriously. If they did, they would have been dead decades ago. They only way to survive and to make it to the top in any regime is to be cunning, pragmatic, merciless, and totally self-absorbed with your own position and self-interest. These are not the men who do stupid things. They may be evil, but stupid and suicidal they are not.

Ok. You’re probably wrong. Why would anyone send all of their power up in flames with Tel Aviv? They could get a lot more out of not using it.

Free Constitution on January 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM

It will turn out they waited until they had built up an arsenal of several bombs. They will use some on Israel, enough to kill off the majority of the Jewish population, and hold back the rest for political power. And the world (the US?) will express surprise and horror.

And it will happen very soon, and we will all be caught off guard. I dread some of the excuses, some of which will make light of the “inevitability” of the death of the Jews, and how the Jews brought in on themselves.

As it should be. Its not our responsibility to hold Israels hand. They have a strong military and can take care of themselves

offroadaz on January 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Just so that things are clear America IS holding Israel’s hands, holding them and tying them – but I like how you reverse reality here. Just so that we are all clear if Israel goes it alone while the US withholds any and all support that is needed and we fail in the task, America will be dragged into the world war like it or not. It seems to me that is a losing proposition, america should be not ‘holding hands’ but ensuring that its ally’s moves are successful against a COMMON enemy. You make it seem like Israel is asking the US to do all the work, when in fact your losing strategy will ensure just that eventually. You should wake up, or practice playing checkers more imho…

Mark my words…
stonemeister on January 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Ok. You’re probably wrong. Why would anyone send all of their power up in flames with Tel Aviv? They could get a lot more out of not using it.

Just praying for a miracle now.

J.J. Sefton on January 27, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I would say ‘ don’t worry, obama will wave his holy hands, and it’ll be ok’ but you obviously know better…

maybe pray AND move!!

glad I don’t live in NY or DC!!

but hey let the libs get what they voted for…Hope and radiation..

right4life on January 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Thanks. I just happen to live in NYC, less than a mile from where the Twin Towers stood, and I did NOT vote for Obomber! Just praying for a miracle now.

That alone is motive enough for them to seek out the bomb.

keep the change on January 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I strongly disagree. I believe the decision makers in Iran are true believers in Islam. They will use the bomb to eliminate Israel first, then consider using it for political reasons. Mark my words, the first time we are sure Iran does indeed have the bomb is when we see video images of mushroom clouds over Tel Aviv. And Obama will blame Bush yet again.

That alone is motive enough for them to seek out the bomb.

keep the change on January 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I strongly disagree. I believe the decision makers in Iran are true believers in Islam. They will use the bomb to eliminate Israel first, then consider using it for political reasons. Mark my words, the first time we are sure Iran does indeed have the bomb is when we see video images of mushroom clouds over Tel Aviv. And Obama will blame Bush yet again.

I used to think Iran wanted a nuke to expand it’s cod piece and deter the great Satan. On learning of the 12th Imam and who is promoting the whole idea, I realized that as soon a Iran has a viable weapon, it won’t even let the paint dry on it before it is sent.

BL@KBIRD on January 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM

To those who do not believe that Iran and the Mullahs will not use a nuke as soon as they have one haven’t been paying very close attention.

Giving the bomb to al qaeda would not be in their interests either. The bomb material can be traced. It has a fingerprint, but more importantly, regimes, especially muslim regimes, are paranoid of each other. With a weapon of such destructiveness, they wouldn’t dare let it out of their possession for fear it would come back on them. Terrorists are not predictable, nor can they be trusted even by other muslims. The hatreds and fears and infighting in that culture is so pervasive, they don’t trust anybody outside their own clan. They certainly wouldn’t trust anyone with their bomb.

When Iran gets the bomb, the regime will use it for domestic propaganda purposes, for regional clout with other muslim states, and for leverage in any negotiations. With a bomb, Iran will now get the international respect Pakistan has and will be able to bill itself to the muslim world as the vanguard of islam. That alone is motive enough for them to seek out the bomb.

That is all he and his drones really care about.

RobCon on January 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM

answer is yes; many of the idiot libs I have spoken with become indignant when you suggest to them that the U.S. can’t allow Iran to have a nuke. “Who are we to tell them what to do?” they shriek…

Agreed, but I think that threat is less the case than Iran using a nuke for more traditional purposes, like a better negotiating position, and deterrence.

Free Constitution on January 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Iran is a terrorist country and I think that they would be more than willing to supply other terrorist with nukes.