Obama: Um, I know some of you are skeptical about spending a trillion dollars
posted at 12:54 pm on January 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Emphasis on “some.” Polls consistently show that more people support the stimulus than oppose it even when the price tag is attached, from 45 percent by Rasmussen’s measure to 53 percent from Gallup to even greater majorities per McClatchy and CNN. Expect stories like this plus The One’s own insistence on accountability, starting with the new Recovery.gov website, to push those numbers even higher.
Anything missing here, though? Any crucial pieces of information politely omitted lest they jeopardize the bill — besides, I mean, the fact that it’s brimming with pork and that it’s viewed by at least some prominent Obama advisors as a crude vehicle for redistribution? Why, there’s nary a word about TARP II or the fact that the recipients of TARP I already have lobbyists in place to make sure they get theirs when it inevitably passes. According to Rasmussen, 59 percent already say they’re worried about too much spending; imagine what it’ll be after The One finally gets around to telling us he wants another multi-billion-dollar bank bailout — after the stimulus has been safely signed into law, of course.
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Um, when in a hole, um, first stop digging.
Murphy9 on January 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Seems to have left the building, although he could be on another thread providing other links for reinforcement of his views.:) .
a capella on January 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM
i just finished reading the stimulus package.
biggest bunch of shit i ever read in one place.
258 pages of pork. there’s even shit in there for acorn.
there is so much shit, the 258 pages of toilet paper would’nt be enough.
it looks like 8.5 billion to provide access to high speed porn.there’s the porn bailout, disguised as infrastructure.8.5 billion fuxing dollars to provide every damn trailer park with free porn.
$160,000,000, which shall be used to ex
pand existing AmeriCorps grants:aka acorn
my Senator,Dick Lugar, better filibuster this piece of crap.
I’m tired of eating this ever-growing crap sandwich.
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on January 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM
That Washpost article proves the huffpost article correct. It wasn’t an “anonymous” person at the HuffPost. It’s a direct quotefrom Orszag, head of the Congressional Budget Office who said there is no such report on the whole stimulus plan and the timetable. The CBO itself, went on to say that what was leaked to the media was not a report on the timing of full stimulus only a portion of it. But do keep telling yourself whatver you need to believe. Even that the CBO lies about what reports it does.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Forgot to add, Chuck are you claiming that the huffpost writer made up a quote by Orszag and contributed it to him to undermine the report. If so, why hasn’t Orszag’s office said “that’s a lie, we never said that to a huffpost reporter.” The logical conclusion to your assessment of the situation makes no sense.
DeathToMediaHacks on January 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM
I blame this insanity on George W. He numbed people to the big numbers. $300B mortgage bailout of Freddie/Fannie here, $700B bailout here, $80B for AIG here, $20B for GM and Chysler there.
Had Bush not spent $2T already, the thought of Obama spending $800B would have made people stand up and think WTF, is Obama crazy? But instead they think, what’s another $800B when we’ve already spent trillions. Let’s do it already.
angryed on January 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Only Thing We Have to Fear Is global collapse Itself.
A greater burden won’t help this nation take off any sooner and the sooner we take off the sooner the rest of the world will.
Its called exceptionalism, its a contagion not a seed, manure won’t make it grow.
Speakup on January 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM
But who has the guts to take the shovel away?
Knucklehead on January 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Not correct. There was no kidnapping. International law required that the wishes of the father be honored.
The pictures tell a false story, just like the ones from Gaza do, and Iraq before that. Clinton did at least one thing right, and that was returning Elian to his father.
platypus on January 24, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Yes, he won….America lost.
Now bend over and take it. And don’t bother asking….there will be no lube.
xblade on January 24, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Don’t forget to say thank you for the privilege of serving.
platypus on January 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Wondering how many mandates will be imposed. Will it be optional to weatherize your house or will it be mandated?
God only knows what new laws will passed.
JellyToast on January 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM
With the liberal crooks already in Pelosi, Harry, Frank etc.
and the ones he’s appointing we can start calling him “Ali Bara and the 40 thieves”, I wonder when they get all these projects up and running and these people actually see the word WORK the number people expecting the jobs will dwindle dramatically. O’ well theres always the illegals. Just can’t win. Retired white contractor.
concernedsenior on January 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Government cannot spend it’s way to prosperity.
After this bill passes, America will continue it’s slide to socialism.
This amount of government spending is an obscene afront to every
American taxpayer. Most taxpayers would see no benefit from any
of this spending.
izoneguy on January 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Saul Alinksy would be so proud. I’m not being sarcastic – Obama truly is the “Rules for Radical” ideal. How far will this go? All the way, I fear…all the way.
JustTruth101 on January 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM
My house is weatherized. Do I get a check or can I ask for some new gobermint windows? Can I get some new landscaping to help scrub the CO2 out of the air?
izoneguy on January 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM
The one and only place to start imo, is to start calling your representatives and be heard!.
The defeatist idea that its already over is part of what makes their machine work. Sabotage it. every chance you get, and the way to build hope of success is to start expressing the importance of your voice in any way you can. The easiest is to be heard via phone call, letter or email. This. Is. What. They. Did.
It works both ways.
Call..vent..and be heard, or wait for your number and instructions. If you think they’re getting cocky now…just wait. They’re like unchallenged bullys.
Itchee Dryback on January 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Good, bring it on, let’s go all the way Obama, all the way.
izoneguy on January 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM
“All the way” is a socialist takeover, with the democrats the “haves” and the American people the “have nots” with working people supporting non-working people because of the back-crushing life-debilitating entreprenurial-crushing tax burden. Is that really what you want?
JustTruth101 on January 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM
It won’t get that far. Business will fold, people will quit and let’s see how long the socialist form of an American Government could hold together with no revenue. A long winter of no heat and millions of starving people will put an end to the socialists utopia.
izoneguy on January 24, 2009 at 5:03 PM
There is job security as a web designer in O’s administration. He has a web site for everything.
illustr8r on January 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Harsh aas this may sound, that I could live with. My spouse and I have always lived well within our means (both sets of our parents are “depression kids” so we were raised to save/prepare/etc.) and we have enough saved to get us through 2 years of hard times, provided we don’t have hyperinflation, then who knows what will happen…and I might feel sorry for those who didn’t vote for Obama, but I feel ZERO sympathy for those who starve and freeze that did.
JustTruth101 on January 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM
I doubt that would happen all at once. Think ‘boiling frog’, or ‘first they came for the ____ and I said nothing’ sort of situation. Adjustments to the conditions evolving would be blamed on other things and the need for even more help from “Nanny” would most likely be warmly greeted by a fearful and confused population until many are willfully compliant out of need.
Itchee Dryback on January 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
This is a great article that may explain a lot of things. I really opened my eyes. Kind of long but worth the read.
milwife88 on January 24, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Weekly address = weakly addressed
revolutionismyname on January 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Why don’t they give $10,000 to every American citizen to spend as they wish? If we’re going to be giving away money, we should give it to us.
unclesmrgol on January 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM
milwife88..great reading about the strategy here. A lot of insight into Alinskys model Antonio Gramsci.
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/index.php?serendipityaction=search&serendipitysearchTerm=gramsci&serendipitysearchButton=%3E
Itchee Dryback on January 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM
I am so shocked
That either party would try to use public money to
load it with pork projects to try and buy votes,
Its just that obama is realizing he needs to silence
his critics so they can get on with the socialization err i meant nationalization err i meant what ugo the dictator did
Ruin (err stimulate the economy)
yea thats it
So we will borrow from the chinese at 10% interest
to hand it out to a bunch of poor folk or corrupt wall street types Forcing them to buy stuff they cant afford
with no checks, no id and no hope of getting the money back
Wait a second i have seen this before didnt i?
Oh yea
When Barney franks and Todd gave fanny and freddie
such a screwing that they Got AIDS..
and the entire banking system nearly collapsed
And oboama the onniciant one
WANTS TO DO THIS
AGAIN????
MORONS
jcila on January 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Sorry, I tried the link and it doesn’t take you to the archived articles.
Do a quick search on the site. Just enter Gramsci and you should get there.
A bit of trouble, but well worth the reading imo.
Itchee Dryback on January 24, 2009 at 6:28 PM
My father-in-law emailed us this great American cartoon from 1954 – as he calls it – the good old days – when things were done right. It’s about business and how high taxes will destroy everything.
I wanted to share it – I hope you enjoy it and some of the older posters may have already seen it.
It’s called It’s Everybody’s Business.
It’s posted on what seems to be a Left leaning site, although I could be wrong. They seem to be making fun of it in the description – but I’m sorry – it is so true.
What we are going through now is predicted as – what we shouldn’t be doing – in this simple little cartoon.
AprilOrit on January 24, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Am I the only one that’s really not interested in anything this ahole says? It’s all predicatable by now.
therightwinger on January 24, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Sums up the democrats “pay to play” agenda with Fannie/Freddie pretty well.
Now with this pork boondoggle that guarantees little to no jobs and no real infusion for the economy until maybe after 2010,it is obvious who the democrats care about:
Reid: Lobbyists are people, too
posted at 6:45 pm on January 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/20/reid-lobbyists-are-people-too
Of course there is a democrat in the White House now so this is no problem.
Just business as usual.
“Yes We Can”
Republicans need vote no to this rip off of the American people and lay out a smarter stimulus.
Baxter Greene on January 24, 2009 at 7:32 PM
If this goes through, our kids can kiss their a$$ goodbye…
d1carter on January 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Thanks,you were right,very informative article.
Thanks,lays it out clean and simple enough that even a caveman can understand it.
That one comment below stated “i love how the cartoon makes America look so shiny and awesome.. when we all know the truth..”
I love how a lot of the people that are always talking about how terrible and evil America is do it from our shores or on a boat headed here.
Baxter Greene on January 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Great clip. I think all of those nutbirds tht argued against him should apologize and admit they don’t have a clue, especially Stein. You are right, he would be better then ‘Turbo Tax tim”. thanks
clinker46 on January 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Like hundreds of thousands of Americans,I am a small business owner and know that Obama’s socialist policies will cripple us
just like they will big business.
This article outlines a lot of the destructive idiocy of “Mr. Hope and Change”:
Small Business to Get Short Shrift from Obama Administration
Posted By Tristan Yates On January 24, 2009 @ 12:00 am In . Column2 03, Money, Politics, US News |
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/small-business-to-get-short-shrift-from-obama-administration/?print=1
Apparently when the liberals Messiah was talking about “Hope” he was only addressing the future welfare family.
Baxter Greene on January 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM
I think thats part of the plan. A generation who know nothing of the potential of capitalism and fulfilling individual dreams and goals. Those things are for the enemies of the collective…unless, of course, you happen to be a member of the “Upper Collective Class”. But then you deserve it, for all you do.
Itchee Dryback on January 24, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Ha! My congressman is Charlie Rangel!
muggedbyreality on January 24, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Yea,just ask Hugo how things are going.
“The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” –Margaret Thatcher.
(via Instapundit)
Baxter Greene on January 24, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Then go local. Support any opposing voice that expresses your views. The idea that these vermin are unstoppable is exactly what they want you to believe.
It has to start somewhere…with someone.
Itchee Dryback on January 24, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Most people have got no comprehinsion of what a billion dollars is, much less a trillion dollars.
Johan Klaus on January 24, 2009 at 9:21 PM
This is why companies are shedding workers in record numbers. Mark my words, if this stimulus gets passed the markets will reel in terror and I would imagine another 2-5 million will get the axe. Until people wake up and support the company that gives them a paycheck instead of the Messiah then it will only get worse. Don’t let the democrats destroy capitalism.
izoneguy on January 24, 2009 at 9:36 PM
pomerpants on January 24, 2009 at 9:52 PM
BOHICA
We got $150,000,000,000 in redistribution from Bush in 2008 via the stimulus checks. It was used by most to buy crap made in China or sent directly to the bankers to pay credit card debt. I don’t care who you are, but paying only lower and middle income taxpayers is “redistribution of wealth”.
We got $850,000,000,000 (which turned out to be more like 2.5 Trillion) taken from us by the Bush and the RINOS with TARP #1.
We got $25,000,000,000 taken from us by Bush and the RINOS for the UAW bailout.
So yeah, a Trillion taken from us by a black socialist from “across the aisle” is pretty outrageous. It’s not quite as much as Bush and the RINOs took from us, but it’s still enough.
We don’t know where this money went, or where it’s going to come from. But we know the folks in Washington want to spend even more this Spring.
popularpeoplesfront on January 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM
“what I’ve done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut…. What I want to emphasize … is that I have been a strong proponent of pay-as-you-go. Every dollar that I’ve proposed, I’ve proposed an additional cut so that it matches.”
Obama
Third Presidential Debate
(via The Volokh Conspiracy)
Another broken promise?
When Obama says “Pay-as-you-go” I believe he really means
“Pay-to-play”.
Baxter Greene on January 25, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Can anyone tell me how to get my money back for my grad and undergrad econ and finance classes. Everything I learned there said that massive gov’t spending would only make things worse in a situation like this…. and that is assuming that the congresscritters are honest and not lining their own pockets in the process.
bullseye on January 25, 2009 at 12:40 AM
I swear, I will resist this man with all my power, until my last dying breath. Now, who’s with me?
long_cat on January 25, 2009 at 1:08 AM
This stimulus package is going to blow up right in Obama’s face. As someone much smarter than I said, “At some point, Liberals run out of other people’s money to spend”. Once that happens, the people will run this guy out of the White House on a rail. Lincoln reincarnated? Don’t make me laugh. President Obama is just the latest version of a slick snake oil salesman. He’s Professor Harold Hill, selling blue sky to people who will believe anything.
gordo on January 25, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Its going to blow up in our face if we let this happen.
Then it may be too late, and you can always hope for a gubmint job digging a hole and filling it back up.
The saving grace might be that the money isn’t spent all at once and reversals can hopefully be made. The problem will be the scare tactics that the politicians will continue to use.
Itchee Dryback on January 25, 2009 at 6:50 AM
And where exactly in our history has government taking over the economy ever actually worked?
The Times of London has a take on “Soviet Britain” that raises many questions as to what parts of America, or all of America, may look like once this government “stimulus” is allowed to go unchecked.
Once government “owns” the economy, it is in direct competition to the private sector, with predictable results.
coldwarrior on January 25, 2009 at 7:23 AM
Does the idea the The One hates whites and wants to destroy capitalism still sound so crazy?
With all this economic redistribution and the implementation of a social and enviromental dogma that will displace our Constitution while destroying our culture and our productive capacity, the terminus is not attractive.
We will look like Kenya. One hundred and Eighty Fourth in Per Capita GNP!! Then the failure of The One’s father in Kenya can be exceeded by his son in America. Thanks, Stanley Ann Dunham.
IlikedAUH2O on January 25, 2009 at 8:25 AM
Especially after we just spent a trillion
johnnyU on January 25, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Gee, I wonder why…
(That is one of the most frightening videos I have ever seen.)
Rae on January 25, 2009 at 10:28 AM
This guy is a slick used car salesman. Americans are going to let this guy steal a TRILLION dollars? He’s never run a business, written a check to an employee, managed anything besides ORGANIZING VOTER FRAUD. WTF? Are people REALLY this stupid?
marklmail on January 25, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Seems so.
Itchee Dryback on January 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM
You know, what always strikes me about these “weekly addresses” – and has, since the beginning – is how alone he looks.
Kind of small (and cross-eyed!) and talking to himself.
Like he gave a party and nobody came.
Alana on January 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Kind of small (and cross-eyed!) and talking to himself.
Like he gave a party and nobody came.
Alana on January 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM
It’s the teleprompter. No really.
Ogabe uses the transparent teleprompter such as those utilized at the conventions; they force you to simultaneously focus on the words being displayed as well as look through the glass at your audience.
It’s disconcerting, the more so because Ogabe has soulless eyes.
Bishop on January 25, 2009 at 12:11 PM
make sure you understand what a trillion dollars represents.
It means you will be placed in debt for the amount of a full year’s income taxes…..which must be paid back with interest at some time by you or your children.
Are you going to get that kind of value from the Depression Stimulus Bill.
For most people, that would represent 2 to 4 years of mortgage payments.
But instead, what you will get is a permanent recession, and a very generous lining of the pockets of Democratic contributors for make-work nonsense projects that would never be undertaken by private industry….because they are a total waste of money…..your money.
notagool on January 25, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Well now you’re just lying.
The unnamed aide was from the CBO, part of Congress.
Orszag is Head of the OMB- a Cabinet position.
So clearly they are 2 different people.
The really funny part you evidently missed, Orszag backs up exactly what the supposedly nonexistent CBO report says… only 25% of the spending is accounted for. Only $136B of the $355B will be in next 2 years and then $70B in AMT relief for tax year 2009.
$136B + $70B = $206B, which is almost exactly 25% of $825 billion total.
Chuck Schick on January 25, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Don’t forget all the ACORN money that is in there.
Done That on January 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Yes, I know it’s the teleprompter. But the effect isn’t good.
Alana on January 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM
No.
Alana on January 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM
And to add, Hack:
The bill also contains $275B in taxcuts and $200B in direct disbursements like extended unemployment benefits and $300 checks for everyone on Social Security.
I have little doubt some of the above will also come this year on top of the $26B in spending projects like construction.
It’s just humorous that after all the screaming we’re not spending enough domestically, they construct a bill where they arent spending enough domestically.
So if this bill does anything, it’s because Obama is going to put more money in the hands of Americans.
Which of course is exactly what the Bush tax cuts did… except it was far far cheaper and clearly worked. The quarter after the May 2003 tax cuts “for the rich” was the biggest quarter of growth in 20 years… Over 7%
Chuck Schick on January 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Why do I get the feeling he’ll be making the same speech four years from now?
Mr_Magoo on January 25, 2009 at 2:23 PM
I’m not just skeptical of spending $300 million on contraceptives, I’m downright against it.
It’s like Obama thinks we @#$% our way out of this economic crisis. Everything will be OK as long as we have lots of safe sex.
Mr Purple on January 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Perhaps, Obama has a plan….
“Ooh, now let’s get down tonight
Baby I’m hot just like an oven
I need some lovin’
And baby, I can’t hold it much longer
It’s getting stronger and stronger
And when I get that feeling
I want Sexual Healing
Sexual Healing, oh baby
Makes me feel so fine
Helps to relieve my mind…”
With due respect to Marvin, by way of the Commodores, “Gonna be some sweet sounds comin’ down on the nightshift…”
coldwarrior on January 25, 2009 at 7:18 PM
There’s no Barack Ogabe of the US as much as there is a Hu Jingabe of China. Few differences save for scale and culture, but the conduct remains the same.
Perhaps those who want an alternative to Obama would do well to remember that there are plenty of us here who wanted a China-hostile administration.
Perhaps those who sold our nation to the Third World would do well to come clean and apologize. Those who instituted offshoring and the various loopholes and those such as NASSCOM who lobby against our citizens(acting much like an Enemy of the State) have done too much damage and helped get us where we are now.
I honestly don’t care if you call me some sort of foreigner-hating epithet. Right now, that only tells me what side you’re on and it is not the one that gets our nation back on its feet.
sethstorm on January 25, 2009 at 8:19 PM
“Um did you know my um father who abandoned me was um black?
Got um a spare trillion um I wanna spend it on a um bunch of worthless um scumbags for their money and um votes.”
That’s the genius for whom we all work now…
My word of advice:
America (NYSE) – short it!
TexasJew on January 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I thought this stimulus package was supposed to focus on JOBS JOBS JOBS???? Read this:
STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?
PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those – one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?
PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.
DrStock on January 25, 2009 at 11:12 PM
1 trillion dollars?
$50,000 given directly 20 million of the lowest income tax-paying, legal Americans would do more to stimulate the recovery than letting the government that regulated this mess upon us handle its “fix”.
I trust Obama and his minions to manage this money like I trust the Chinese not to steal hundreds of billions of our intellectual property.
profitsbeard on January 26, 2009 at 1:06 AM
It seems Obama thinks he’s really impressive when he purses his lips so primly.
Kralizec on January 26, 2009 at 2:00 AM
Nearing two trillion, actually…
A trillion here, a trillion there, & pretty soon you’re talking big money.
jgapinoy on January 26, 2009 at 7:41 AM
HA – please correct spelling on this recurring event…
should read: WEAKly address
gatorboy on January 26, 2009 at 8:14 AM
How much money will T Boone Pickens make having his land developed for transmission lines and the such.
tmq on January 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM
355 Billion and not one job created. In fact 50,000 lost.
Rick007 on January 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM
More hypocritical rhetoric from the messiah… didn’t he campaign on fixing the deficit Bush left this country with? And now he wants to increase it?!
Cr4sh Dummy on January 26, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Quite simply, since BHO got more campaign donations than anyone in history, he has more repaying to do than anyone in history. Most of the “stimulus” will go to unions, Fannie & Freddie, Planned Parenthood, & other BHO donors.
jgapinoy on January 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM
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