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Spending a trillion dollars “petty”: WaPo

posted at 11:40 am on January 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Now that the election and inauguration have put Barack Obama in the White House, many people have expressed relief at returning to policy rather than party politics.  Don’t count the Washington Post among them.  Despite constant reminders of the dire economic straits in the US and abroad and the trillion-plus price tag of Obama’s policies, Paul Kane lectures us from the front page that disagreement on the stimulus is “petty”:

Just days after taking office vowing to end the political era of “petty grievances,” President Obama ran into mounting GOP opposition yesterday to an economic stimulus plan that he had hoped would receive broad bipartisan support.

How did that lede get past an editor?  First, it adopts Obama’s rather odd argument that the “era” preceding his inauguration had no other disagreements other than “petty grievances”.  That is a strange concept, since for most of the Bush administration, the Democrats were in the minority.  An entire era of nothing but “petty grievances” would have meant that it was the Democrats who were petty, and not the Republicans.  Was the debate over Iraq, tax policy, energy production, and national security not substantial at all?

Kane continues in the same vein:

Republicans accused Democrats of abandoning the new president’s pledge, ignoring his call for bipartisan comity and shutting them out of the process by writing the $850 billion legislation. The first drafts of the plan would result in more spending on favored Democratic agenda items, such as federal funding of the arts, they said, but would do little to stimulate the ailing economy.

The GOP’s shrunken numbers, particularly in the Senate, will make it difficult for Republicans to stop the stimulus bill, but the growing GOP doubts mean that Obama’s first major initiative could be passed on a largely party-line vote — little different from the past 16 years of partisan sniping in the Clinton and Bush eras.

No kidding, Sherlock.  The two parties differ significantly on the role of government and its relationship with the private sector.  Economic philosophies matter to both the Left and the Right, which means that debate and dissent will occur.  That doesn’t automatically make it petty, especially when we consider the scope of the plan.  We’re not arguing over a $100,000 earmark — we’re debating a $1,000,000,000,000 disgorgement of public funds that we don’t have and we’re not likely to get until our grandchildren are ready to retire.

And it doesn’t get much better the farther into the story one goes:

Republicans have a long list of grievances.

Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.), who gave Vice President Biden a 17-page list of spending requests, said he opposes the proposed increase in funding for Pell Grants for college students because it would do little to spur short-term economic growth. House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (Ohio) said the plan lacks enough “fast-acting tax relief,” such as a temporary halt to payroll taxes and more relief for businesses. Sen. John Thune (S.D.) said the nearly $1 trillion price tag would add too much to a federal deficit that is already predicted to top $1.2 trillion for 2009.

Not disagreement, not objections on principle, but “grievances”.  Not only does this again accept unquestioningly Obama’s construct and imply pettiness from the earlier reference, but it’s just bad writing.  Doesn’t the Post have a copy of Roget’s Thesaurus handy?

The objections from Republicans are substantive and unanswered.  If Obama wants bipartisanship on any economic plan, then he’d better get used to working more closely with Republicans than he has on this.  It appears that Kane and the Post have accepted the Democratic definition of “bipartisanship”, which means “surrendering principles and agreeing with Democrats.” (via The Corner and Jonah Goldberg)


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Geee…. What was all this fuss about BUsh leaving with a trillion dollar deficit?

Hell, Obama spends that his first week in office.

Mr Purple on January 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I guess the Declaration of Independence was a list of “petty grievances” concerning taxes as well.

darclon on January 23, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Gerald Warner is absolutely correct. This will all end in tears.

SKYFOX on January 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM

When you really think about it, it’s only 12 zeros and a 1, big deal. Money can’t buy you happiness anyway.

kirkill on January 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM

The two parties differ significantly on the role of government and its relationship with the private sector

Sorry, Ed, but that’s just wrong. Republicans are just as happy to act like Democrats, using the power of big government to push their agenda down that American throat. They differ on what to use the power of big government for, not the use of it.

VolMagic on January 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I read that story this morning and had exactly the same reaction. Now objecting to shoveling a trillion dollars out the door with 5 minutes of analysis and debate is a “petty grievance”??? They sure didn’t say that when Democrats squealed about the Republicans pushing through the Iraq funding bills.

The Post must be feeling the pressure to get with the program, after being pretty skeptical of Obama and the whole Democratic agenda during the campaign.

rockmom on January 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Lies and deceit are the new reality in this socialist, totalitarian country we have become. Forget democratic principles of freedom and liberty . . . they simply don’t exist anymore. When a nation’s value system rots and hedonism prevails it descends into this puddle of slime.

rplat on January 23, 2009 at 11:49 AM

How many of these people would encourage the children to follow this path of massive spending to get out of massive debt? Must be more of that elite stuff that I don’t understand, just too stupid.

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2009 at 11:52 AM

This is gonna be so much fun. The liberals are sooooooo wrong on this issue, and the American public may finally get it. Let the games begin!

BoomJunkie on January 23, 2009 at 11:52 AM

The collapse of the dollar is imminent. Not one single dollar is being spent to make any actual recovery, it’s all spent on paybacks and cronies.

darwin on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

If it ain’t your money, how much you spend doesn’t matter.

coldwarrior on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

It’s petty because conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war and so that the top 1% could get huge tax cuts. And now they look around and gasp “wait a minute, we have a trillion dollar debt? Where’d THAT come from?” Spare us.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Dem plan: We have the press in our change pocket. We don’t need bipartisanship as we can ram home any legislation. Any noise from the Republicans and the press will sic’ the peeps on them.

Should be Rep plan: Fight everything. Every inch. Every foot. Every yard. Let the Dems be Dems.

Will be Rep plan: Hide and mumble something about not being racist when called one.

Limerick on January 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM

The two parties differ significantly on the role of government and its relationship with the private sector.

They do? Since when.

lorien1973 on January 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Like a trillion dollars to the flame.

christene on January 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM

conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war – DeathToMediaHacks

THis makes me laugh! Wasn’t it the Democrats in congress that constantly kept voting to continue? And now that we’re winning, and terrorist groups are on the run, all you can do is snipe and lie about the facts?

Please spare us and move permenantly over to the racist HuffPo.

kirkill on January 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

You are confusing debt and defecit. We have over $10t in debt. This year is going to be $1t+ defecits. There is a difference. Defecit spending is not automatically a bad thing. It depends on the defecit as a percentage of GDP, and how long you run the defecits. Barry “you got some white stuff on your nose, baby” Obama is gonna run trillion dollar defecits for as far as the eye can see. Problem.

Also, I know you probably got the idea that the Bush tax-cuts went only to the top 1% from some lefty site, but you should really expand your horizons. It’s simple not true.

VolMagic on January 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM

It’s petty because conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war and so that the top 1% could get huge tax cuts. And now they look around and gasp “wait a minute, we have a trillion dollar debt? Where’d THAT come from?” Spare us.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

That is utter nonsense, but typical of most illogical liberal tripe.

rplat on January 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Also, defecit=deficit. Me spellz gud one daye, hopingfully.

VolMagic on January 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM

PELL Grants and funding for the arts… yeah, that will really get the economy going.

Why are so many Americans so phucking stupid?

D2Boston on January 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM

That is utter nonsense, but typical of most illogical liberal tripe.

rplat on January 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I’m sure that DeathToMediaHacks believes the National Endowment for the Arts is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars. So don’t expect common sense.

kirkill on January 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Whoops, make that $30B.

Dusty on January 23, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Gerald Warner is absolutely correct. This will all end in tears.

SKYFOX on January 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM

………. it has begun.

Seven Percent Solution on January 23, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Sen. Inhofe was on Bill Bennett’s show yesterday and he said the original TARP would have amounted to $5000.00 per tax filing family. I have always wondered about that. It seems like that would have been more beneficial then owning failing banks.

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Party-line voting? What about all the bipartisan bills passed? The Patriot Act was bipartisan. The Real ID Act was bipartisan. NCLB was bipartisan. The AUMF against Iraq was bipartisan. In fact, it seems that those things for which Bush is most unpopular were bipartisan!

JohnJ on January 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM

It’s petty because conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war and so that the top 1% could get huge tax cuts. And now they look around and gasp “wait a minute, we have a trillion dollar debt? Where’d THAT come from?” Spare us.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Huh? Our public debt is around $10.6 trillion. I believe you’re talking about the budget deficit. That would be how much more we’re going to spend than take in.

And hate to burst your bubble, but the war in Iraq has cost a total of $500 billion over the past 6 years. That’s for freeing 29 million people, overthrowing a dictator, and establishing a democracy in the Middle East. How does that compare to us being expected to unquestionably pass a single $1 trillion spending plan that can’t be guaranteed to create a single job?

amerpundit on January 23, 2009 at 12:12 PM

“American public may finally get it”

kind of a high risk wager there tho, huh?

Buckaroo on January 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Well-done, Ed.

The objections from Republicans are substantive and unanswered.

How better to illustrate that fact than this hilarious, albeit disturbing snippet where “Ranking Member Dave Camp (R-MI) presses staffer from the Joint Committee on Taxation about job creation in the Democrats’ proposed stimulus bill. He could not confirm that this bill could produce one job.

Buy Danish on January 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM

It appears that Kane and the Post have accepted the Democratic definition of “bipartisanship”, which means “surrendering principles and agreeing with Democrats.” (via The Corner and Jonah Goldberg)

This has been the “Modus operandi” of the msm and the left for some years.

Johan Klaus on January 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM

“JohnJ on January 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM”

shh! don’t point that out — the lll HATE to be reminded about how they voted for those thngs!
:-)

Buckaroo on January 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Dusty on January 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM

As someone who would have to file to not get a stimulus check, I can’t bring myself to put to use monies that are taken from men and women whom the free market has assigned a value that causes them to make money that not only pay my paycheck on the 1st and 15th (which I consider to be in due exchange for the services I render to them), but also makes them eligible to have more of their monies taken so that someone who has failed to save up for a rainy day (as I and my wife have done) can now survive through leeching themselves on the healthy of the free market, with the Federal Government playing the part of the apothecary.

Maybe they can be proven to be effective, though the last one in May didn’t, but even if they did, I oppose them in principle.

Spc Steve on January 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I don’t see what the big deal is. Right now the US has somewhere between $50-70 Trillion dollars of unfunded obligations. That’s only about 1.5 times the global GDP for a year. So what’s a couple more trillion here and there.

Nothing like running up the credit card before we declare bankruptcy.

moxie_neanderthal on January 23, 2009 at 12:25 PM

And hate to burst your bubble, but the war in Iraq has cost a total of $500 billion over the past 6 years. That’s for freeing 29 million people, overthrowing a dictator, and establishing a democracy in the Middle East. How does that compare to us being expected to unquestionably pass a single $1 trillion spending plan that can’t be guaranteed to create a single job?

amerpundit on January 23, 2009 at 12:12 PM

And assembling terrorist and would be terrorist into one area so that they could be exterminated.

Johan Klaus on January 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM

conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war – DeathToMediaHacks

I don’t get it,..how can anyone still push the war/funding on Conservatives??

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

christene on January 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM

American public may finally get it”

kind of a high risk wager there tho, huh?

Buckaroo on January 23, 2009

Seeing the light, are you?

artist on January 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM

“artist on January 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM”

piss off secessionist, i “saw the light” by working towards duh1 not getting elected in the first place …

/some people’s foolish children …

Buckaroo on January 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Here, Paul Kane is like the liberal’s version of Peggy Noonan: a partisan person yelling out about bipartisanism and acting all self-righteous like they’re mature and enlightened or something that the rest of us aren’t. It’s really getting on my nerves.

fiscallyconservative on January 23, 2009 at 12:49 PM

I knew it..

Instead of working hard and being honest.
Instead of paying my taxes and being honest

I should have become
A gay artist, a drug smoking crack addict, a liberal communist, blowing up stuff like the liberal friends of obama and then on top of this
I should have publicly CHEATED by not even FILING or paying my taxes for years..

Hell if you do these things above
You will either
End up as a democrat in congress
End up as the chair of the finance committee
End up as the chair of the Banking comittee
or even better
End up Running the IRS..

WHY i ask all the democrats and liberals
WHY SHOULD I NOW OBEY YOUR LAWS????????

YOU DONT..

jcila on January 23, 2009 at 12:50 PM

What’s overlooked in this discussion is the flawed assumption that the US has an unlimited line of credit in world cash markets. Read the WSJ here.

Mark30339 on January 23, 2009 at 12:50 PM

It’s petty because conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war and so that the top 1% could get huge tax cuts. And now they look around and gasp “wait a minute, we have a trillion dollar debt? Where’d THAT come from?” Spare us.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

So the logical reaction to excessive deficit spending in the past is even more massive deficit spending now and in the future.

Yeah, that makes sense. To a liberal. And anyone who points out the blatant idiocy of this counter-productive spending plan is being “petty.”

Why don’t you spare us?

AZCoyote on January 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM

[Spc Steve on January 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM]

My implication, Spc Steve, is that the Feds eliminate individual and corporate income taxes for a year. You would not pay them, either, in the amount that you pay them. IOW, everybody gets to keep the money they earn and use it to their discretion.

Dusty on January 23, 2009 at 12:53 PM

[christene on January 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM]

If the person considers it bad and one R voted for it, it’s bi-partisan at a minimum and likely the R’s responsibility. If the person considers it good and one D voted for it, the Dems did it.

Dusty on January 23, 2009 at 12:56 PM

By the way, will any one give Barry LOW MARKS on using his Inaugral and first days to calm financial markets? His first actions imply inattentiveness on the economy and no reigning in on Congressional spending.

Mark30339 on January 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Does anyone have any examples of how successful governments have been across the globe and through history when engaged in massive subsidies for non-productive programs?

I mean, the USSR, the DDR, and quite a few others, were highly successful in the past century, right?

If a nation produces nothing, it gains nothing, and no amount of government bailouts will change that rubric. The currency becomes worthless paper and fast, leading to more, not less, government spending to prevent a wholesale collapse. Unfetter our means of production and allow the market to work.

coldwarrior on January 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM

They’re printing 100 trillion dollar bills in Zimbabwe and laughing at us over our measly 1 trillion dollar stimulus. One person interviewed on the street in Harare (a half-brother of Obama, by chance) was seen laughing at America,

“Ha! They are worried about a trillion dollars in America (where my half-brother is now the emperor) when you can’t even get a decent hotel room here for less than 2 trillion dollars …”

progressoverpeace on January 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM

It’s petty because conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war and so that the top 1% could get huge tax cuts. And now they look around and gasp “wait a minute, we have a trillion dollar debt? Where’d THAT come from?” Spare us.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

1) The deficits under Bush were in the $200B to $400B range. They are now in the $1T to 2T range.
If you don’t recognize a difference, then it’s your perception that is faulty.

2) Those tax cuts benefited every income group. In fact the rich were paying a higher percentage of taxes after the cut then they were before. But heck, you want to believe that they all went to the super rich, so that must be the truth.

3) I notice that you keep harping on the wars as being the cause of the deficits, and not the much larger increases in social and welfare spending.

MarkTheGreat on January 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I’m sure that DeathToMediaHacks believes the National Endowment for the Arts is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars.

kirkill on January 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM

And the military isn’t.

MarkTheGreat on January 23, 2009 at 1:08 PM

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

War spending is Constitutional, stimulus spending is not.

dominigan on January 23, 2009 at 1:12 PM

dominigan

Not unconstitutional. Not extraconstitutional.
It’s Superconstitutional…Obamaconstitutional!
Or, in other words…what constitution?

SKYFOX on January 23, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Breaking Drone Missile strike on Pakistan…Obama comments on Pakistan Stike….Obama: Pakistan, I’d hit that :)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95SSHE80&show_article=1

Dr Evil on January 23, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Whoops! Ed forgot to mention that Specter, the head petty griever at the Republican pity party, handed the Democrats a “17-page list of spending requests” while Scrooging on letting college students in on more free money action.

Because everyone knows that if Specter had funding requests they could only be the same useless pork that the Dems larded the monstrosity with.

CornFedBeauty on January 23, 2009 at 2:20 PM

War spending is Constitutional, stimulus spending is not.

dominigan on January 23, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Brief and to the point.

Not only that, if we did away with all of the unconstitutional spending, we would have a huge surplus.

Harpoon on January 23, 2009 at 2:25 PM

If I had a trillion dollars,
Well I’d buy you a car company and an economy…

andycanuck on January 23, 2009 at 2:28 PM

By the way, will any one give Barry LOW MARKS on using his Inaugral and first days to calm financial markets? His first actions imply inattentiveness on the economy and no reigning in on Congressional spending.

Mark30339 on January 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM

I will! Consider the lowest possible marks given.

I look at it this way: the economy is divided into the group of companies that feels likely to receive a cut of the “stimulus” pork, and a much larger group that feels uncertain that it will receive any direct benefit. That larger group knows that it will be paying for most of the stimulus. Membership in the platinum-plated stimulus recipient group will either be determined by incredibly wise economic policy, admistered by brilliant genuises who have an almost supernatural ability to predict the course of the vast U.S. economy over the next few years… or it will be determined by cheap politics and influence peddling.

Every amateurish or uncertain move by Obama makes it look more difficult to believe it’s anything but cheap politics. Those now-infamous remarks by Robert Reisch yesterday have got to be causing a near-panic in some sectors of the economy, since Obama has not hurried to disavow them.

Managing a large company is like navigating a ship that turns very slowly. Political dispensation of largesse, instead of relying on competition and profit, is like ripping out the radar on these great ships, and replacing it with a coin-operated Ouija board. Turbulent markets may cause uncertainty, but blind political mismanagement causes even greater uncertainty, because all sorts of factors that have nothing to do with business performance will determine success and failure. The American auto industry is not swimming in cash because they made wise, competitive business decisions – it’s because they successfully lobbied the government and got a bailout despite unwise and uncompetitive decisions. This leads the management of other businesses to conclude the most important factor in their survival is effective political lobbying, which makes those without political influence feeling more and more nervous… and the markets become more and more jittery.

Doctor Zero on January 23, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Not unconstitutional. Not extraconstitutional.
It’s Superconstitutional…Obamaconstitutional!
Or, in other words…what constitution?

SKYFOX on January 23, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Supercallifragialisticextraconstitutional?

Doctor Zero on January 23, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Since the Republicans are given no input on the doomed stimulus packages and the Democrats have the vote to pass pretty much anything they want, I think that the Republicans should adopt a strategy of voting “Present” on these issues as an homage to President Obama.

Laurence on January 23, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Constitutional? Forget Constitutional. The Constitution was discarded when the SCOTUS repealed the 10th Amendment.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

That marked the end of the Republic and it has been down hill ever since.

Laurence on January 23, 2009 at 2:44 PM

FYI, since annual income tax revenues are about 1 trillion, passage of the pork stimulus will put you in debt to the tune of 1 year of your annual income taxes.

When else in your life have you taken on a debt like that with no thought or opportunity to object? and for most…with no opportunity to get anything for it.

but don’t worry, your kids will pay most of it, and their kids….with interest, of course.

and besides, it’s only 1/20th of the wealth the country has lost because Barney douchebag decided deadbeats should be able to buy houses like other citizens.

But of course, when I say “wealth the country has lost”, I don’t mean the Kennedy’s, Kerry’s and other super-rich who pay no taxes. Since they are the aristocracy, they have lost nothing and will not be expected to pay anything.

notagool on January 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Ed,

This is the beginning for the dialog in September/October 2010:

MSM: “The economy is still considered in shambles because, according to many economists, of Republican objections and resistance to President Obama’s economic proposals.”

The economists won’t be named, but will actually be Geithner goons. And they won’t point out that blue dog democrats had to help the Repubs because the dems could have passed it without the Republicans if Princess Nancy really had any control. Then blue dog dems will be underminded by the national party to get them replaced with more lockstep dems.

The MSM’s message is and will continue to be, no matter how bad the policies are failing, that it is Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle, but MOSTLY Republicans that haven’t got on board with the brilliant and dear leader’s solutions.

PastorJon on January 23, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Ed… I’m pretty sure “chump” is a racial slur.

*wink*

CliffHanger on January 23, 2009 at 4:28 PM

It’s petty because conservatives signed off on massive debts for the last 8 years to fund the war and so that the top 1% could get huge tax cuts. And now they look around and gasp “wait a minute, we have a trillion dollar debt? Where’d THAT come from?” Spare us.

DeathToMediaHacks on January 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Any chance you could go look up the difference between debt and deficit before you try to take on a deficit thread?

Obama’s deficits will be 4 to 5 TIMES the worst under the GOP. But if its your side doing much more irresponsible things, it’s all cool, right?

Chuck Schick on January 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM

“Yes, we wrote the bill. Yes, we won the election,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told reporters yesterday, saying Republicans were not being realistic in their expectations.

Hmm. Cowboy diplomacy, but without the cowboy. Gotta love it…

unclesmrgol on January 23, 2009 at 8:33 PM

BHO will compromise only to the extent that it takes to pry away two (maybe one after MN is decided) Repuplican cloture votes.

Elections matter.

exdeadhead on January 23, 2009 at 10:18 PM

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